That statement is just as silly as if you said 'OH, well bullets kill, and are made of metal, maybe no one should use metal there either?!'
Well, that's pretty much the statement that you made.
I happen to live in Tokyo. The amount of actual damage from Fukushima is pretty small. They currently have a radius of 20 km from the plant closed off. That's not very big. Let's not forget that the Tohoku earthquake and tsunami killed over 30,000 people. No one has died as a result of the radiation from Fukushima to date and current estimates are that it's not going to be very many, even when you look at the lifetime increased risk from cancer.
The comparison to petroleum is reasonable. BP claims to have spent, so far, $11B cleaning up the Deepwater Horizon spill and may wind up spending $37B which is in the same ballpark as the Fukushima mess. Is it acceptable? No. There were a number of ways that the Fukushima disaster could have been avoided. However, in the scale of industrial accidents, it's not that far out of line and it's killed a lot fewer people than other notable disasters, like Bhopal, and in the context of the overall disaster, it simply grabs the most headlines.
Your statement "Japan had first hand experience with how deadly radiation is. They should know the risks better than anyone, and I think the risks weren't worth it." is just as silly as your original point and is just as silly as the statement you yourself called out as being silly.
If the regulators in Japan hadn't been so influenced by the utilities (as, unfortunately, they seem to be everywhere), the Fukushima reactors would have been shut down at the end of their operating life and been in cold shutdown at the time of the earthquake. Instead they were granted an extension and were running.
It just goes to show you that cheap usually isn't, as we all should know by now.
When you talk about technologies that have brought suffering, lots of suffering was caused in Japan (and other places) by incendiary bombs made with napalm, which is petroleum derived. Should Japan not use petroleum products either?
Ummmm...yeah. I guess you don't need phones, what was on people's desks, etc. That's a nice fantasy but if you were using the office there's probably stuff in it that you need besides the IT stuff.
Amazon is kind of broken in that way. They have "availability zones" (essentially DC's) and you need to replicate across availability zones yourself to recover from a major disaster. Big players can do that and little players usually aren't savvy enough to understand that Amazon is more hype than reality in that arena.
However, there are other players coming along who will be providing those services.
A question I have is how much money do they lose if their little DC is down and how does that relate to their cloud costs. We run our own little DC (that's Data Closet) and it has the backend for our online shop along with internals. The web server is offsite and we have offsite backups. It would probably take 2-3 days to recover from a major disaster, which would cost us a few thousand dollars in lost revenue. Our costs for our Data Closet are pretty minimal, the hardware has been paid for for years and electricity, cooling, etc. gets rolled into the basic overhead for the office anyhow. We'd certainly spend more than a few thousand dollars a year if we increased the amount of stuff we have offsite.
Why would a burglar carry a gun if it's highly unlikely that the home owner has one let alone is willing to use it if he/she does? Personally I think the consequent slightly lower ability to personally stop burglars is an acceptable trade-off since insurance covers property loss whilst nothing covers loss of life and burglars are likely to run anyway as soon as you call the police.
Well, here's a difference between the US and Switzerland. Burglary in the US often involves home invasion scenarios where they want to catch the home owner at home and force them to open safes, etc. Rapists and murderers breaking in for the purposes of rape and murder are not fairy tales. It would be nice if they were and if the US had a culture more like Switzerland but it doesn't and it's not going to happen.
I'm living in Japan at the moment and I'm fine with having a baseball bat to drive off burglars, etc. as it is very unlikely any of them will have a gun. We've talked about moving back to the US and I have given serious thought as to whether or not to keep guns in the house for home defense.
The Proton arrives at the pad horizontally and is then erected into a vertical position for launch. If the electronics are powered up at that point, you could run an angular velocity check/
I doubt Apple or Amazon is specifying how the LEDs are made. This is a weirdness in patent law, in that you can sue the user of patent infringing part, not the manufacturer.
And I will be writing all of my messages in crayon from now on because crayon will smudge up the scanner. It's only a point if it actually does something!
Hmmm...either the author of the article or this Sang guy needs a little education on how email works.
Sang has no illusions that even a clever cryptographic font—which you can use in email messages to shield them from snoops and font-recognition bots—will remain encoded for long.
Guys, email isn't fax. It's not sent around as an image so the font isn't going to change whether or not your text can be interpreted by a machine.
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It's not a cup holder. Though I suppose it could keep your coffee somewhat warmer.
Yes, unfortunately they got rid of the cup holders a few generations back. I always thought that the little cup holder popping out when you hit the button was very handy, myself.
That's nice as long as what you're working on fits in internal storage. With a 1Gbps Ethernet port, you really don't want to be doing video editing over the network.
BTW, can I buy an Apple file server? That *used* to be what you'd do with a Mac Pro or XServe. I think that the configuration of Mac Pro connected to a Mac Mini server is just a little silly, don't you?
Unfortunately the RAID controllers in those little boxes are usually crap. Also, all of the stuff on the market is still TB 1.
Thunderbolt is kind of in a weird position. It's not as cheap as eSATA but it doesn't have the high end equipment available for it that FibreChannel/SCSI does.
NFS works well on OS X. I haven't really tried to see what the performance is like but it's got to be better than AFP. You can get iSCSI support for OS X but you have to buy a driver.
eSATA is theoretically 6 Gbps with TB 2 at 20 Gbps, so where are you getting 6x from?
I'm not sure if I really want eSATA ports on the back but they have the advantage that enclosures for eSATA are a lot cheaper than Thunderbolt enclosures.
I wanted to like the new Mac Pro but it makes no sense to me.
Internal FLASH only - that's fine for a MacBook Air, but aren't the target users for this video editors? Limited RAM - only 4 ram slots. The old one had 8. Cylindrical - Great, now nothing fits next to it Exhaust from the top - Can't put anything on top and if you spill a drink on it, it goes straight into the machine.
What are the pluses to this design? Hopefully it runs quiet but beyond that???
This is the new Cube. I wonder if this will be the final Mac Pro - "Well, nobody bought it so it's obvious there's no market here..."
I looked at it a while back with an eye towards doing some work on it, but I'm interested in file systems and large storage and Hurd was limited to a max of 4GB per file because all files were memory mapped all the time and Hurd only runs on 32-bit architectures. So, for me, the amount of work before I could do something interesting was pretty steep.
I think the main reason that microkernels don't have great performance is because not much work has been put into them. I worked on Apple's Copland OS back in the mid-90's (the "failed" OS before OS X). Copland was a true microkernel and there were a number of performance optimizations that we'd put in. Had it shipped, we probably would have started making some modifications to the CPUs to support the microkernel better as well.
A big issue for performance is switching between processes. If you have to make multiple process switches for each kernel call that can get slow due to things like reloading the MMU tables, etc. There are a lot of different paths that could be taken. I could imagine a micro kernel, for example, written in Java or similar language running in a VM that enforced fine-grained memory controls, e.g. at the object level. If you used this for memory protection between trusted (e.g. OS level) servers you could avoid the hit of reloading the CPU's page maps. User space separations could be enforced by the CPU for better security.
Google is really missing the whole point of Facebook (Facebook tends to miss it too). It's not about whizzy features, it's about interacting with your friends. I don't use Google+ because few of my friends do. I really don't want to have Google+ OR Facebook finding new junk to stuff in front of me. I want to find out what my friends are up to. It's better than emailing stupid jokes around.
I suspect too many Google staffers are never leaving the Googleplex anymore.
There's a difference between a microserver and cramming 1800 of them into a rack. A product like this comes down to cost efficiency. Is this cheaper than an equivalent amount of Intel/AMD based computing? If it's not cheaper on the hardware, how much floorspace does it save? How much does your floorspace and electricity have to cost to make this worthwhile? What's your workload that requires this thing?
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That statement is just as silly as if you said 'OH, well bullets kill, and are made of metal, maybe no one should use metal there either?!'
Well, that's pretty much the statement that you made.
I happen to live in Tokyo. The amount of actual damage from Fukushima is pretty small. They currently have a radius of 20 km from the plant closed off. That's not very big. Let's not forget that the Tohoku earthquake and tsunami killed over 30,000 people. No one has died as a result of the radiation from Fukushima to date and current estimates are that it's not going to be very many, even when you look at the lifetime increased risk from cancer.
The comparison to petroleum is reasonable. BP claims to have spent, so far, $11B cleaning up the Deepwater Horizon spill and may wind up spending $37B which is in the same ballpark as the Fukushima mess. Is it acceptable? No. There were a number of ways that the Fukushima disaster could have been avoided. However, in the scale of industrial accidents, it's not that far out of line and it's killed a lot fewer people than other notable disasters, like Bhopal, and in the context of the overall disaster, it simply grabs the most headlines.
Your statement "Japan had first hand experience with how deadly radiation is. They should know the risks better than anyone, and I think the risks weren't worth it." is just as silly as your original point and is just as silly as the statement you yourself called out as being silly.
If the regulators in Japan hadn't been so influenced by the utilities (as, unfortunately, they seem to be everywhere), the Fukushima reactors would have been shut down at the end of their operating life and been in cold shutdown at the time of the earthquake. Instead they were granted an extension and were running.
It just goes to show you that cheap usually isn't, as we all should know by now.
When you talk about technologies that have brought suffering, lots of suffering was caused in Japan (and other places) by incendiary bombs made with napalm, which is petroleum derived. Should Japan not use petroleum products either?
Ummmm...yeah. I guess you don't need phones, what was on people's desks, etc. That's a nice fantasy but if you were using the office there's probably stuff in it that you need besides the IT stuff.
Amazon is kind of broken in that way. They have "availability zones" (essentially DC's) and you need to replicate across availability zones yourself to recover from a major disaster. Big players can do that and little players usually aren't savvy enough to understand that Amazon is more hype than reality in that arena.
However, there are other players coming along who will be providing those services.
A question I have is how much money do they lose if their little DC is down and how does that relate to their cloud costs. We run our own little DC (that's Data Closet) and it has the backend for our online shop along with internals. The web server is offsite and we have offsite backups. It would probably take 2-3 days to recover from a major disaster, which would cost us a few thousand dollars in lost revenue. Our costs for our Data Closet are pretty minimal, the hardware has been paid for for years and electricity, cooling, etc. gets rolled into the basic overhead for the office anyhow. We'd certainly spend more than a few thousand dollars a year if we increased the amount of stuff we have offsite.
Why would a burglar carry a gun if it's highly unlikely that the home owner has one let alone is willing to use it if he/she does? Personally I think the consequent slightly lower ability to personally stop burglars is an acceptable trade-off since insurance covers property loss whilst nothing covers loss of life and burglars are likely to run anyway as soon as you call the police.
Well, here's a difference between the US and Switzerland. Burglary in the US often involves home invasion scenarios where they want to catch the home owner at home and force them to open safes, etc. Rapists and murderers breaking in for the purposes of rape and murder are not fairy tales. It would be nice if they were and if the US had a culture more like Switzerland but it doesn't and it's not going to happen.
I'm living in Japan at the moment and I'm fine with having a baseball bat to drive off burglars, etc. as it is very unlikely any of them will have a gun. We've talked about moving back to the US and I have given serious thought as to whether or not to keep guns in the house for home defense.
The Proton arrives at the pad horizontally and is then erected into a vertical position for launch. If the electronics are powered up at that point, you could run an angular velocity check/
I doubt Apple or Amazon is specifying how the LEDs are made. This is a weirdness in patent law, in that you can sue the user of patent infringing part, not the manufacturer.
Slashdot likes crayon. Deal with it.
And I will be writing all of my messages in crayon from now on because crayon will smudge up the scanner. It's only a point if it actually does something!
Hmmm...either the author of the article or this Sang guy needs a little education on how email works.
Sang has no illusions that even a clever cryptographic font—which you can use in email messages to shield them from snoops and font-recognition bots—will remain encoded for long.
Guys, email isn't fax. It's not sent around as an image so the font isn't going to change whether or not your text can be interpreted by a machine.
Yah, they were really great in BASIC!
It's not a cup holder. Though I suppose it could keep your coffee somewhat warmer.
Yes, unfortunately they got rid of the cup holders a few generations back. I always thought that the little cup holder popping out when you hit the button was very handy, myself.
That's nice as long as what you're working on fits in internal storage. With a 1Gbps Ethernet port, you really don't want to be doing video editing over the network.
BTW, can I buy an Apple file server? That *used* to be what you'd do with a Mac Pro or XServe. I think that the configuration of Mac Pro connected to a Mac Mini server is just a little silly, don't you?
Unfortunately the RAID controllers in those little boxes are usually crap. Also, all of the stuff on the market is still TB 1.
Thunderbolt is kind of in a weird position. It's not as cheap as eSATA but it doesn't have the high end equipment available for it that FibreChannel/SCSI does.
NFS works well on OS X. I haven't really tried to see what the performance is like but it's got to be better than AFP. You can get iSCSI support for OS X but you have to buy a driver.
Mac Mini's have more internal storage.
So, do you own a current Mac Pro? If so, how does the new model meet your needs? How's your current Mac Pro setup configured?
eSATA is theoretically 6 Gbps with TB 2 at 20 Gbps, so where are you getting 6x from?
I'm not sure if I really want eSATA ports on the back but they have the advantage that enclosures for eSATA are a lot cheaper than Thunderbolt enclosures.
Did you order one then?
Where are the FW 800 ports? I saw zero on the back panel. There's six Thunderbolt ports.
Having a bunch of slots for the PCIe SSDs inside the case would have made some sense.
I wanted to like the new Mac Pro but it makes no sense to me.
Internal FLASH only - that's fine for a MacBook Air, but aren't the target users for this video editors?
Limited RAM - only 4 ram slots. The old one had 8.
Cylindrical - Great, now nothing fits next to it
Exhaust from the top - Can't put anything on top and if you spill a drink on it, it goes straight into the machine.
What are the pluses to this design? Hopefully it runs quiet but beyond that???
This is the new Cube. I wonder if this will be the final Mac Pro - "Well, nobody bought it so it's obvious there's no market here..."
I looked at it a while back with an eye towards doing some work on it, but I'm interested in file systems and large storage and Hurd was limited to a max of 4GB per file because all files were memory mapped all the time and Hurd only runs on 32-bit architectures. So, for me, the amount of work before I could do something interesting was pretty steep.
I think the main reason that microkernels don't have great performance is because not much work has been put into them. I worked on Apple's Copland OS back in the mid-90's (the "failed" OS before OS X). Copland was a true microkernel and there were a number of performance optimizations that we'd put in. Had it shipped, we probably would have started making some modifications to the CPUs to support the microkernel better as well.
A big issue for performance is switching between processes. If you have to make multiple process switches for each kernel call that can get slow due to things like reloading the MMU tables, etc. There are a lot of different paths that could be taken. I could imagine a micro kernel, for example, written in Java or similar language running in a VM that enforced fine-grained memory controls, e.g. at the object level. If you used this for memory protection between trusted (e.g. OS level) servers you could avoid the hit of reloading the CPU's page maps. User space separations could be enforced by the CPU for better security.
Google is really missing the whole point of Facebook (Facebook tends to miss it too). It's not about whizzy features, it's about interacting with your friends. I don't use Google+ because few of my friends do. I really don't want to have Google+ OR Facebook finding new junk to stuff in front of me. I want to find out what my friends are up to. It's better than emailing stupid jokes around.
I suspect too many Google staffers are never leaving the Googleplex anymore.
There's a difference between a microserver and cramming 1800 of them into a rack. A product like this comes down to cost efficiency. Is this cheaper than an equivalent amount of Intel/AMD based computing? If it's not cheaper on the hardware, how much floorspace does it save? How much does your floorspace and electricity have to cost to make this worthwhile? What's your workload that requires this thing?