I own both a pneumatic nail gun and a hammer. I chose the hammer to hang a picture in my house. In no way does it mean that the nail gun is any less of a good tool. In no way does it mean that the hammer is effective as the nail gun in all situations.
The poster mentioned how much better IPv6 would be, which is designed around having 6 numbers (255*255 more IP addresses). So yes, with just IPv6 and no DNS, you would have to memorize 6 numbers for each web site.
You are the only one "mistaking" anything here. Free software is about freedom, freedom of choice, freedom to use (and reuse, modify, etc.) the software that runs and orders much of our lives.
It's also about the freedom to waste your time with utterly pointless crap. I put a DVD in my W2K box, it plays. I put a DVD in my PS2, it plays. I put a DVD in my DVD player, it plays. Anything more complicated than that is a waste of time. But hey, feel free to waste your own time!
You didn't bother to compile the packages yourself and check the features of each package.
Whoa there. Already waaaay too complicated for a supposedly modern OS. I click on video, it plays. Period. If it doesn't do that, I'm not interested. That's the way it should be, since it's been done elsewhere (W2K, WXP, etc.)
DNS *does* suck! I mean, who wants to go through all of the trouble of laboriously remembering and typing "slashdot.org" in a browser when they can much more easily remember and type in "234.54.197.233.90.222"?? I pray for that day, also.
I know. I did some XML development when I was a computer guy. I was trying to make a point... what in the hell does the W2C have to do with anything non web-related?
And, as far as the usefulness of XML, I just found it to add extra overhead. The parsers are cute and all, but it doesn't generally help since you still have to know the strucure of the data. So, between the XML creation, the extra data being transmitted, and the parsing, if I want performance, I'll stick with a binary pipe or a simple comma-delimited stream. XML really isn't a big deal at all. Nothing but hype.
Schemas, XML, blah, blah, blah. What a load of shit. I use HTML. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Besides, does anybody other than Slashdot even give a flying fuck what these so called, self-appointed "standards" bodies have to say anymore?
So, I miss an article that was posted once.. most are posted, twice (or more)... and 13 people have to reply to tell me that? Wow. I think that we all have waaay too much free time to be spending here. I think that we should all just slowly put down the keyboards, and back away from the computers...
Of course,/. isn't going to post an article telling about a serious hole in CVS. Expecially considering their own Sourceforge, according to the article, is hostnig 55,000 projects with CVS. So here it is. Read up. Very serious news. Make sure to check *every* line of every bit of your source in a CVS repository to make sure it hasn't been altered. Well, I guess that this gives new meanign to "open source", huh?
Nonetheless, I'm waiting in rapt anticipation of Utopia, or "the worker's paradise". I can't wait. In that idyllic place without private ownership, everybody will live and love together, there will be no wars, and everybody will have plenty, of course.;)
People only interested in Top 40 pop/rap radio shit listen to "songs". I listen to whole albums... real musicians write songs and release them as albums for a reason. Many songs just don't make sense on their own.
To Redhat: I noticed that last quarter you pulled in an income for the first time ever. A whopping $214,000. Does this mean that everybody in the company gets, say, a $10 gift certificate for McDonald's? If not, then how do you guys expect to spend these massive earnings? Maybe on the staggering interest payments on the $16 million in debt, the $14 million in payables, or any of your other long term debt? Hopefully, are you planning to spend it better than you did on the incredibly productive "Red Hat over Redmond" mountain climb, on which, I'm sure, much "synergy" was created?
Oh yeah, and thanks for the free software. Good luck on that whole "profit" thing!
Agreed. But the thing is, they're not comparing apples to apples here. They're going for an office suite, to some online thing that's a word processor and FTP only. They could also have saved a ton by *just* buying MS Word instead of the whole Office suite for every box.
Oh, I agree completely. You can't even begin to compete if you have to pay your employees 3-4 times what employees make with other companies. It's physically impossible. At the very least, Ford & GM could move their production overseas where they could get reasonable priced labor interested in doing a realy *quality* job, and then sink some of that money into engineering. Until that happens, American car companies don't even cross my mind when I think of getting a new vehicle. Either I pay $20K for an American car and it lasts 5 years with multiple trips to the shop (costing not only cash, but lost work time) and resells for next to nothing, or I fork over $25K+ for a foreign car that lasts much longer with much less repair & maintenance that is still sellable several years later. It's a no-brainer in my book. Fuck the "recycleable" car. How about a "reliable" car?
...from Ford: "New! 10 year, 100,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty!" Now *that* would be real news. Fords are alerady disposable. I'd love for a really, really good (ie: able to compete with Toyota's and Hondas) American car to be built. Unfortunately, I really, really doubt that I'll ever see that in my lifetime.
Oh, and the guy who pushed so hard for this wonderful software is now in jail on felony embezzelment charges after immediately leaving Houston after the decision to purchase? Wow. Yeah. Big loss to MS. A convicted felon convinces a gov't body to purchase a product that doesn't even have the features to replace their current product, and requires a broadband connection to boot. What began as Brown's goal to use SimDesk as an affordable way to give poor residents access to basic computer functions broadened into a plan to use SimDesk as a cheaper alternative on some city PCs, too.
And so then, these poor people living in public housing are going to fork over $50/month for broadband so they can have all of the functionality of Wordpad? Again. Devestating loss to MS, I'm sure.
They save a whopping $1.6 million, and in return they get software that doesn't do spreadsheets, presentations, or small databases. On top of that, all they need is a 100% broadband connection on every machine! Wow! What a deal! Where do I sign up?? I mean, this thing has all of the functionality of WordPad, with the added requirement of a broadband connection! Woo hoo! Who thought of such a great product?
SimDesk isn't perfect. It lacks many sophisticated features of Office, such as the ability to customize spreadsheets, do slide presentations or work databases. The glaring shortfall: It has no track record, making it risky for companies hesitant to bet on unproven technology.
USA Today. Yeah, that's a great place to get good quality tech news. I think that the Enquirer has a good story about Steve Ballmer being Bill Gate's alien baby. Maybe/. should post that, huh?
I don't understand the value added in having everything cross-platform. I know, you can run the app on multiple platforms, not everyone runs Windows, blah, blah, blah. But, in reality, very few corporate apps are going to be run on multiple platforms. Most are used in one department/group which is standardized on one platform, and doesn't jump around willy-nilly. It doesn't happen. And, considering the averate life span of most apps, I think that today it's even *less* necessary to make sure that one app is multi-platform. Use the tools that work based on where and how the app is gonna be used. By the time new platform support is necessary, chances are a new app is gonna be needed anyway.
But, that being said, my vote is for Oracle Forms. Build a GUI with a VB-like interface, and click the button that makes it all a Java app. Slickest thing out there that's not being used.
Wow. What a well written post. You know, I'm not using any Linux now in my company, but after reading your eloquent post, I'm convinced. I'm deploying Linux boxes tomorrow. Thanks for the wonderful insight.
Agreed. It's humor. It's meant to be a business story that also happens to be funny. It's business, but it doesn't involve a lot of money, or a large, sweepign legal ruling. Chances are that is was either in the center column of the front page, or on the front page of Marketplace, where is where they usually put the more fun stories. I'd check myself, but I can't afford a subscription right now. It's funny. The WSJ does run funny articles without being "sensationalist". I'd recommend that *anybody* who's never picked up an issue should pick one up. In my opinion, it's the best all around newspaper in the world.
Not really. The WSJ is actually a good, well-rounded paper which generally has at least one relatively fun/interesting column down the center of the front page. And, as an aside, their tech section is one of the best in the industry, which should be really embarassing to other tech news outlets (CNET, The Register, ZDNET, Wired, etc.), considering that this is primarily a business newspaper.
The web will continue to be filled with crappy HTML until enough people stop using IE.
I don't think that there's any relationship there, but if there is, don't hold your breath. The "browser wars" have been over for years. You're more likely to see BETA make a comeback in the video world then see "enough people stop using IE". You're justfighting windmills.
Slashdot Mirror
I own both a pneumatic nail gun and a hammer. I chose the hammer to hang a picture in my house. In no way does it mean that the nail gun is any less of a good tool. In no way does it mean that the hammer is effective as the nail gun in all situations.
The poster mentioned how much better IPv6 would be, which is designed around having 6 numbers (255*255 more IP addresses). So yes, with just IPv6 and no DNS, you would have to memorize 6 numbers for each web site.
You are the only one "mistaking" anything here. Free software is about freedom, freedom of choice, freedom to use (and reuse, modify, etc.) the software that runs and orders much of our lives.
It's also about the freedom to waste your time with utterly pointless crap. I put a DVD in my W2K box, it plays. I put a DVD in my PS2, it plays. I put a DVD in my DVD player, it plays. Anything more complicated than that is a waste of time. But hey, feel free to waste your own time!
You didn't bother to compile the packages yourself and check the features of each package.
Whoa there. Already waaaay too complicated for a supposedly modern OS. I click on video, it plays. Period. If it doesn't do that, I'm not interested. That's the way it should be, since it's been done elsewhere (W2K, WXP, etc.)
DNS *does* suck! I mean, who wants to go through all of the trouble of laboriously remembering and typing "slashdot.org" in a browser when they can much more easily remember and type in "234.54.197.233.90.222"?? I pray for that day, also.
I know. I did some XML development when I was a computer guy. I was trying to make a point... what in the hell does the W2C have to do with anything non web-related?
And, as far as the usefulness of XML, I just found it to add extra overhead. The parsers are cute and all, but it doesn't generally help since you still have to know the strucure of the data. So, between the XML creation, the extra data being transmitted, and the parsing, if I want performance, I'll stick with a binary pipe or a simple comma-delimited stream. XML really isn't a big deal at all. Nothing but hype.
Schemas, XML, blah, blah, blah. What a load of shit. I use HTML. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Besides, does anybody other than Slashdot even give a flying fuck what these so called, self-appointed "standards" bodies have to say anymore?
So, I miss an article that was posted once.. most are posted, twice (or more)... and 13 people have to reply to tell me that? Wow. I think that we all have waaay too much free time to be spending here. I think that we should all just slowly put down the keyboards, and back away from the computers...
I *am* joking. I thought that post was very evidently toungue-in-cheek.
A society "without" private ownership is a society based on force
Let me guess... you've read "Atlas Shrugged"? Great book. I'm in the middle of reading it for the second time right now.
Of course, /. isn't going to post an article telling about a serious hole in CVS. Expecially considering their own Sourceforge, according to the article, is hostnig 55,000 projects with CVS. So here it is. Read up. Very serious news. Make sure to check *every* line of every bit of your source in a CVS repository to make sure it hasn't been altered. Well, I guess that this gives new meanign to "open source", huh?
Oh I know. I just couldn't let it slide.
;)
Nonetheless, I'm waiting in rapt anticipation of Utopia, or "the worker's paradise". I can't wait. In that idyllic place without private ownership, everybody will live and love together, there will be no wars, and everybody will have plenty, of course.
People only interested in Top 40 pop/rap radio shit listen to "songs". I listen to whole albums... real musicians write songs and release them as albums for a reason. Many songs just don't make sense on their own.
Unless we advance some form of public ownership, and tear down the structure of corporate business, we will always have corporations.
The result of "public ownership"? See former USSR, North Korea, Cuba, East Germany.
Next?
Sure Swing is a little sluggish, but when everyone is running a p4 2GHz, it really doesn't matter....
At the rate of PC sales, I think it's gong to be quite some time before that happens.
To Redhat: I noticed that last quarter you pulled in an income for the first time ever. A whopping $214,000. Does this mean that everybody in the company gets, say, a $10 gift certificate for McDonald's? If not, then how do you guys expect to spend these massive earnings? Maybe on the staggering interest payments on the $16 million in debt, the $14 million in payables, or any of your other long term debt? Hopefully, are you planning to spend it better than you did on the incredibly productive "Red Hat over Redmond" mountain climb, on which, I'm sure, much "synergy" was created?
Oh yeah, and thanks for the free software. Good luck on that whole "profit" thing!
Agreed. But the thing is, they're not comparing apples to apples here. They're going for an office suite, to some online thing that's a word processor and FTP only. They could also have saved a ton by *just* buying MS Word instead of the whole Office suite for every box.
Oh, I agree completely. You can't even begin to compete if you have to pay your employees 3-4 times what employees make with other companies. It's physically impossible. At the very least, Ford & GM could move their production overseas where they could get reasonable priced labor interested in doing a realy *quality* job, and then sink some of that money into engineering. Until that happens, American car companies don't even cross my mind when I think of getting a new vehicle. Either I pay $20K for an American car and it lasts 5 years with multiple trips to the shop (costing not only cash, but lost work time) and resells for next to nothing, or I fork over $25K+ for a foreign car that lasts much longer with much less repair & maintenance that is still sellable several years later. It's a no-brainer in my book. Fuck the "recycleable" car. How about a "reliable" car?
...from Ford: "New! 10 year, 100,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty!" Now *that* would be real news. Fords are alerady disposable. I'd love for a really, really good (ie: able to compete with Toyota's and Hondas) American car to be built. Unfortunately, I really, really doubt that I'll ever see that in my lifetime.
Oh, and the guy who pushed so hard for this wonderful software is now in jail on felony embezzelment charges after immediately leaving Houston after the decision to purchase? Wow. Yeah. Big loss to MS. A convicted felon convinces a gov't body to purchase a product that doesn't even have the features to replace their current product, and requires a broadband connection to boot.
What began as Brown's goal to use SimDesk as an affordable way to give poor residents access to basic computer functions broadened into a plan to use SimDesk as a cheaper alternative on some city PCs, too.
And so then, these poor people living in public housing are going to fork over $50/month for broadband so they can have all of the functionality of Wordpad? Again. Devestating loss to MS, I'm sure.
They save a whopping $1.6 million, and in return they get software that doesn't do spreadsheets, presentations, or small databases. On top of that, all they need is a 100% broadband connection on every machine! Wow! What a deal! Where do I sign up?? I mean, this thing has all of the functionality of WordPad, with the added requirement of a broadband connection! Woo hoo! Who thought of such a great product?
/. should post that, huh?
SimDesk isn't perfect. It lacks many sophisticated features of Office, such as the ability to customize spreadsheets, do slide presentations or work databases. The glaring shortfall: It has no track record, making it risky for companies hesitant to bet on unproven technology.
USA Today. Yeah, that's a great place to get good quality tech news. I think that the Enquirer has a good story about Steve Ballmer being Bill Gate's alien baby. Maybe
I don't understand the value added in having everything cross-platform. I know, you can run the app on multiple platforms, not everyone runs Windows, blah, blah, blah. But, in reality, very few corporate apps are going to be run on multiple platforms. Most are used in one department/group which is standardized on one platform, and doesn't jump around willy-nilly. It doesn't happen. And, considering the averate life span of most apps, I think that today it's even *less* necessary to make sure that one app is multi-platform. Use the tools that work based on where and how the app is gonna be used. By the time new platform support is necessary, chances are a new app is gonna be needed anyway.
But, that being said, my vote is for Oracle Forms. Build a GUI with a VB-like interface, and click the button that makes it all a Java app. Slickest thing out there that's not being used.
Wow. What a well written post. You know, I'm not using any Linux now in my company, but after reading your eloquent post, I'm convinced. I'm deploying Linux boxes tomorrow. Thanks for the wonderful insight.
Agreed. It's humor. It's meant to be a business story that also happens to be funny. It's business, but it doesn't involve a lot of money, or a large, sweepign legal ruling. Chances are that is was either in the center column of the front page, or on the front page of Marketplace, where is where they usually put the more fun stories. I'd check myself, but I can't afford a subscription right now. It's funny. The WSJ does run funny articles without being "sensationalist". I'd recommend that *anybody* who's never picked up an issue should pick one up. In my opinion, it's the best all around newspaper in the world.
Pretty sensationalist headline for the Journal.
Not really. The WSJ is actually a good, well-rounded paper which generally has at least one relatively fun/interesting column down the center of the front page. And, as an aside, their tech section is one of the best in the industry, which should be really embarassing to other tech news outlets (CNET, The Register, ZDNET, Wired, etc.), considering that this is primarily a business newspaper.
The web will continue to be filled with crappy HTML until enough people stop using IE.
I don't think that there's any relationship there, but if there is, don't hold your breath. The "browser wars" have been over for years. You're more likely to see BETA make a comeback in the video world then see "enough people stop using IE". You're justfighting windmills.