Even more, from a business standpoint, VOIP is lacking in features, too. Forwarded calls lose their caller ID. Voicemail (with Vonage) was very, very spotty (sometimes it picked up, sometimes it forwarded, etc.). Faxes are iffy. Sometimes they go through, sometimes they don't. I tried VOIP at my business (3 lines) and went back to POTS after 2 months.
We have worked to add update-able views, ansi stored procedures, and triggers.
It's much closer. As to whether it has ALL of the features yet, I personally don't know because I don't use it. Updateable Views, Stored Procedures and Triggers are all a big step in the right direction. Now, for anybody who's serious about their data (like I am), there will be a waiting period of a few years while the kinks are worked out, before it's really ready to be compared to other, more mature databases that have had these features for 10 or 20 years.
That's great for you! But, I'm also not interested in visiting analfucking.com and godhatesfags.com because I know what kind of crap is on those domains. Livejournal.com is for a bunch of nobody's to ramble about crap that is so inane, that the writers aren't even willing to fork over $10/month for their own domain and hosting. If you like to read about other peoples' boring (and quite honestly, the part that bothers me: pathetic) lives, great for you! Congrats! I still contend that I know what the site is all about, and I have no interest in clicking on a single link that leads to livejournal any more than I'm interested in clicking on a single link that leads to analfucking.com or godhatesfags.com
You're right - we shouldn't go and see what people have to say if their homepage is on a domain we don't like!
It's not the domain, it's the content that goes along with that domain. If somebody says "livejournal" to me, I instantly think of 12 year old girls with black fingernails desperately wanting some reason to have angst in their horrible, suburban lives.... Or crazy cat people describing each of their 12 cats' eating and shitting habits... Or pathetic dorks talking about nothing in particular. THAT is why I, in addition to the parent poster, apparently, would *never* again click on a livejournal.com link.
Yeah, and at least in Firefox, you can't turn it off!. (Well, you can try, but it simply doesn't work.) Damn it, where's my IE shortcut...?
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The cost of living going up is part of the standard of living falling, by definition. Overall, what this means, is that regardless of what dollars or ruppes are worth, in 20-30 years, the average Indian will be able to afford the same luxuries and as the average American.
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Actually, all it is is simple competition. The standard of living of the US is finally falling down to the level that is comparable for similar labor in the rest of the world. US workers aren't smarter, certainly don't work harder, and have no reason to be paid so much more than their counterparts in other parts of the world. All we're seeing is a correction from competition being US only for the past few hundreds years to now we're having to compete against the entire world. There was no stopping this with treaties or tarriffs. It's inevitable. We're just seeing it happen now, and of course, it's stressful for Americans with their grand sense of Entitlement. Face it. You're not worth nearly what you're getting paid now. Be happy with less and you'll, well, be happier. It's that simple. Sell the Mc Mansion and the SUV's and let your kids take the bus to school.
I'm not defending MS. You've been brainwashed to attack them. You've been convinced that what they've done is a crime, although nobody was hurt by it. I'm defending the idea that the way they did business was NOT a crime, and SHOULD NOT BE a crime. I'm defending an idea that company OR individual should be free to sell their product any way they'd like and that BEING VERY SUCCESSFUL IS NOT A CRIME. I don't care if it was MS or the guy selling flowers on the corner. The idea that a company or individual should be punished for being too successful is morally wrong. You have simply been 1. brainwashed into believing that successful = criminal, or 2. you're a shill for the DOJ or for the competitors that were suing (Sun, Netscape, AOL).
Software involves nothing but people's time and thoughts to produce. It has no intrinsic value.
Speak for yourself. The only thing that I can say that I truly have that has any real value to me is my time. That's the problem... college kids do most of the Free Software writing because they're bored, rich (many don't have to worry about a mortgage), and simply don't value their time (college kids never realize that they're gonna die). By the time they wake up and realize that the only thing that they DO have of value is time, it's too late... they're already written program X and ruined market Y for Z number of people that DO value their time (grown-ups).
In fact, your argument is such that nobody who performs a service has any value because they're just using their time.
Do people really need reminders that MS is a criminal organization?
Criminal ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. Not criminal according to me. If you're going to use the DOJ definition, then you're a criminal for ripping a CD, backing up a DVD movie, or playing a DVD on Linux (if you've ever done any of those things). That's my point. Screaming "criminal" is pointless when you consider the definition of "criminal".
I'm just wondering, are you a DOJ shill? Are you going to start telling us that Marijuana is harmful and pharmaceutical drugs are all fantasic? Are you going to start telling us that we can't make own own backups of CD's and DVD's? Either there's a new movement going around, and that's DOJ fanboys such as yourself, or Sun, Netscape, AOL, Oracle, etc. are paying shills to remind people that "MS broke the law" (according to them). Which is it?
What you're describing isn't always a disadvantage. Working with an old COBOL system, it's relatively easy to hire, because you know that anybody who knows COBOL thoroughly, isn't an immature, young programmer.
I didn't buy one. I *always* wait for the flaws to be worked out, and Apple has a long history of releasing products with really obvious problems. I won't buy a portable music player for another year or so, once prices drop, and more problems are worked out.
This thing is tiny, and is clearly designed to be put in a pocket (only geeks clip gadgets to their belt). If you put it in your pocket, the screen quickly becomes scratched to the point where it's unreadable. How is that acceptable? Should the letters on your keyboard wear off the first time you type with sweaty hands, too?
I'm curious, as somebody who comes from a manufacturing background... how did this product get shipped with such a glaringly obvious flaw? Does Apple test their products, or do they simply have a team of yuppie designers who send their designs to China, which in turn drop ships them directly to customers? Apple is going to have to announce a full recall, and I'm assuming, start firing people pretty quickly.
I really don't buy the whole idea that the reason we don't get enough applicants for advanced degrees is because of poor highschool education levels in the US. You don't go directly from highschool to an advanced degree. Usually you get a bachelor's first and then (as I've suggested above) you work in industry for 5 or 10 years and then consider getting a Master's or PhD - this is often the way it works. Besides, having that 5 or 10 (or more) years of real-world experience and then going on to grad school makes you much more valuable than someone who goes directly to grad school after the bachelor's degree.
Like the subject says, it's *much* tougher to get a graduate degree in Comp Sci. I have my undergrad in business, but I worked as an IT geek, a programmer, and eventually, a senior database developer for several years. Recently, I looked into going back to school for a Masters in Comp Sci. What I found out was that unless you have an undergrad degree in Comp Sci, it's pretty much impossible to get a Masters. The schools I asked about it said that these "How do Compilers Work" and "What is a CPU?" classes were require pre-requisites, but I couldn't go back to get a second undergrad degree. My only choice to even be allowed to APPLY for a Masters was first to go back and do about 4-5 years of Continuing Education. That's a hell of a risk, so I said, "fuck it". So much for well-rounded Comp Sci graduates...
Do you believe everything your Government tells you? Do you also believe that marijuana is dangerous? Do you also believe that making a backup of a music CD or movie DVD should be illegal? Do you really believe that the US went to war in Iraq to find "Weapons of Mass Destruction"? Are you good little lemming?
And, what about Apple and Linux? Do they not exist? Are they figments of my imagination? If not, then by definition, how could MS be a monopoly? (I'm talking "real life" here... not what Big Brother tells me)
Don't expect that to stay free for very long. I'm willing to bet money that this is gonna be a bait-and-switch. They can't make any money off of POP3 mail.
I agree. The connected Yahoo Calendar, Notepad, Briefcase, etc. make Yahoo much closer to an Outlook killer than GMail does. I actually use 75% of their integrated stuff. I even use their music, shopping, etc. because it's integrated so damn well.
Google can do no wrong. Even when the violate the #1 rule of search engine integrity and manipulate their results, they can do no wrong (according to the Slashdot crowd). But yes, Google is still a profit-making company like every other one on the planet. I really doubt that they'll let their "do no evil" philosophy get in the way of profit. I've never known ANY company to keep their original idealistic philosophies once they get to a certain size.
My point is that MS competing HARD with Sun and Netscape and AOL, etc. doesn't even come CLOSE to what happens in the real world. Hell, I just finished reading an article in which Coca-Cola owns so much of the fresh water in India for their own manufacturing, that Indian people in certain parts of the country actually can't get fresh drinking water, yet they can get all of the Coca-Cola products that they want? The whole thing with MS was just big corporations pushing each other around. It doesn't have anything to do with ethics because in reality, it didn't effect individuals in any way at all, that I can see.
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Even more, from a business standpoint, VOIP is lacking in features, too. Forwarded calls lose their caller ID. Voicemail (with Vonage) was very, very spotty (sometimes it picked up, sometimes it forwarded, etc.). Faxes are iffy. Sometimes they go through, sometimes they don't. I tried VOIP at my business (3 lines) and went back to POTS after 2 months.
We have worked to add update-able views, ansi stored procedures, and triggers.
It's much closer. As to whether it has ALL of the features yet, I personally don't know because I don't use it. Updateable Views, Stored Procedures and Triggers are all a big step in the right direction. Now, for anybody who's serious about their data (like I am), there will be a waiting period of a few years while the kinks are worked out, before it's really ready to be compared to other, more mature databases that have had these features for 10 or 20 years.
That's great for you! But, I'm also not interested in visiting analfucking.com and godhatesfags.com because I know what kind of crap is on those domains. Livejournal.com is for a bunch of nobody's to ramble about crap that is so inane, that the writers aren't even willing to fork over $10/month for their own domain and hosting. If you like to read about other peoples' boring (and quite honestly, the part that bothers me: pathetic) lives, great for you! Congrats! I still contend that I know what the site is all about, and I have no interest in clicking on a single link that leads to livejournal any more than I'm interested in clicking on a single link that leads to analfucking.com or godhatesfags.com
You're right - we shouldn't go and see what people have to say if their homepage is on a domain we don't like!
It's not the domain, it's the content that goes along with that domain. If somebody says "livejournal" to me, I instantly think of 12 year old girls with black fingernails desperately wanting some reason to have angst in their horrible, suburban lives.... Or crazy cat people describing each of their 12 cats' eating and shitting habits... Or pathetic dorks talking about nothing in particular. THAT is why I, in addition to the parent poster, apparently, would *never* again click on a livejournal.com link.
Yeah, and at least in Firefox, you can't turn it off!. (Well, you can try, but it simply doesn't work.) Damn it, where's my IE shortcut...?
The cost of living going up is part of the standard of living falling, by definition. Overall, what this means, is that regardless of what dollars or ruppes are worth, in 20-30 years, the average Indian will be able to afford the same luxuries and as the average American.
Actually, all it is is simple competition. The standard of living of the US is finally falling down to the level that is comparable for similar labor in the rest of the world. US workers aren't smarter, certainly don't work harder, and have no reason to be paid so much more than their counterparts in other parts of the world. All we're seeing is a correction from competition being US only for the past few hundreds years to now we're having to compete against the entire world. There was no stopping this with treaties or tarriffs. It's inevitable. We're just seeing it happen now, and of course, it's stressful for Americans with their grand sense of Entitlement. Face it. You're not worth nearly what you're getting paid now. Be happy with less and you'll, well, be happier. It's that simple. Sell the Mc Mansion and the SUV's and let your kids take the bus to school.
I'm not defending MS. You've been brainwashed to attack them. You've been convinced that what they've done is a crime, although nobody was hurt by it. I'm defending the idea that the way they did business was NOT a crime, and SHOULD NOT BE a crime. I'm defending an idea that company OR individual should be free to sell their product any way they'd like and that BEING VERY SUCCESSFUL IS NOT A CRIME. I don't care if it was MS or the guy selling flowers on the corner. The idea that a company or individual should be punished for being too successful is morally wrong. You have simply been 1. brainwashed into believing that successful = criminal, or 2. you're a shill for the DOJ or for the competitors that were suing (Sun, Netscape, AOL).
Software involves nothing but people's time and thoughts to produce. It has no intrinsic value.
Speak for yourself. The only thing that I can say that I truly have that has any real value to me is my time. That's the problem... college kids do most of the Free Software writing because they're bored, rich (many don't have to worry about a mortgage), and simply don't value their time (college kids never realize that they're gonna die). By the time they wake up and realize that the only thing that they DO have of value is time, it's too late... they're already written program X and ruined market Y for Z number of people that DO value their time (grown-ups).
In fact, your argument is such that nobody who performs a service has any value because they're just using their time.
How about large-scale accounting programs used by the State?
Hell, how about small-scale accounting programs?! I still haven't found an OSS program that has 1/2 the features of plain ol' Quickbooks!
Do people really need reminders that MS is a criminal organization?
Criminal ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. Not criminal according to me. If you're going to use the DOJ definition, then you're a criminal for ripping a CD, backing up a DVD movie, or playing a DVD on Linux (if you've ever done any of those things). That's my point. Screaming "criminal" is pointless when you consider the definition of "criminal".
Apparently, another DOJ/Sun/Netscape/AOL shill...
I'm just wondering, are you a DOJ shill? Are you going to start telling us that Marijuana is harmful and pharmaceutical drugs are all fantasic? Are you going to start telling us that we can't make own own backups of CD's and DVD's? Either there's a new movement going around, and that's DOJ fanboys such as yourself, or Sun, Netscape, AOL, Oracle, etc. are paying shills to remind people that "MS broke the law" (according to them). Which is it?
What you're describing isn't always a disadvantage. Working with an old COBOL system, it's relatively easy to hire, because you know that anybody who knows COBOL thoroughly, isn't an immature, young programmer.
I've been using the toolbar, along with Google Suggest in Firefox for several months. It ain't new. Marginally useful, but it certainly isn't "new".
I didn't buy one. I *always* wait for the flaws to be worked out, and Apple has a long history of releasing products with really obvious problems. I won't buy a portable music player for another year or so, once prices drop, and more problems are worked out.
This thing is tiny, and is clearly designed to be put in a pocket (only geeks clip gadgets to their belt). If you put it in your pocket, the screen quickly becomes scratched to the point where it's unreadable. How is that acceptable? Should the letters on your keyboard wear off the first time you type with sweaty hands, too?
I'm curious, as somebody who comes from a manufacturing background... how did this product get shipped with such a glaringly obvious flaw? Does Apple test their products, or do they simply have a team of yuppie designers who send their designs to China, which in turn drop ships them directly to customers? Apple is going to have to announce a full recall, and I'm assuming, start firing people pretty quickly.
I really don't buy the whole idea that the reason we don't get enough applicants for advanced degrees is because of poor highschool education levels in the US. You don't go directly from highschool to an advanced degree. Usually you get a bachelor's first and then (as I've suggested above) you work in industry for 5 or 10 years and then consider getting a Master's or PhD - this is often the way it works. Besides, having that 5 or 10 (or more) years of real-world experience and then going on to grad school makes you much more valuable than someone who goes directly to grad school after the bachelor's degree.
Like the subject says, it's *much* tougher to get a graduate degree in Comp Sci. I have my undergrad in business, but I worked as an IT geek, a programmer, and eventually, a senior database developer for several years. Recently, I looked into going back to school for a Masters in Comp Sci. What I found out was that unless you have an undergrad degree in Comp Sci, it's pretty much impossible to get a Masters. The schools I asked about it said that these "How do Compilers Work" and "What is a CPU?" classes were require pre-requisites, but I couldn't go back to get a second undergrad degree. My only choice to even be allowed to APPLY for a Masters was first to go back and do about 4-5 years of Continuing Education. That's a hell of a risk, so I said, "fuck it". So much for well-rounded Comp Sci graduates...
It is a convicted monopoly.
Do you believe everything your Government tells you? Do you also believe that marijuana is dangerous? Do you also believe that making a backup of a music CD or movie DVD should be illegal? Do you really believe that the US went to war in Iraq to find "Weapons of Mass Destruction"? Are you good little lemming?
And, what about Apple and Linux? Do they not exist? Are they figments of my imagination? If not, then by definition, how could MS be a monopoly? (I'm talking "real life" here... not what Big Brother tells me)
Call me when I can use Firefox for these features.
All of that has worked in Firefox since Firefox was released. You obviously never tried...
Does Yahoo mail have or plan to implement free secure POP access like gmail has?
No, but I bet that GMail's free POP3 access isn't going to last much longer. It's kinda' tough to make money that way...
Don't expect that to stay free for very long. I'm willing to bet money that this is gonna be a bait-and-switch. They can't make any money off of POP3 mail.
I agree. The connected Yahoo Calendar, Notepad, Briefcase, etc. make Yahoo much closer to an Outlook killer than GMail does. I actually use 75% of their integrated stuff. I even use their music, shopping, etc. because it's integrated so damn well.
Google can do no wrong. Even when the violate the #1 rule of search engine integrity and manipulate their results, they can do no wrong (according to the Slashdot crowd). But yes, Google is still a profit-making company like every other one on the planet. I really doubt that they'll let their "do no evil" philosophy get in the way of profit. I've never known ANY company to keep their original idealistic philosophies once they get to a certain size.
My point is that MS competing HARD with Sun and Netscape and AOL, etc. doesn't even come CLOSE to what happens in the real world. Hell, I just finished reading an article in which Coca-Cola owns so much of the fresh water in India for their own manufacturing, that Indian people in certain parts of the country actually can't get fresh drinking water, yet they can get all of the Coca-Cola products that they want? The whole thing with MS was just big corporations pushing each other around. It doesn't have anything to do with ethics because in reality, it didn't effect individuals in any way at all, that I can see.