Any hacker with sufficient knowledge of how to do this also knows that we live 3 meals from anarchy; if the accounting and shipping systems of a major food chain go down because of your virus and can't be brought back up again, the food won't get delivered. What happens to the inner cities and suburbs? The farms? Other countries?
Kid, critical shit isn't connected to the Internet. It's just not. Web servers don't count as mission critical. I don't think that anybody died because of "Blaster". Hackers are *not* that important.
They all come from varied backround but almost all have 2 things in common; they faced conflict at a young age that they overcame, and that they overcame our school system dumbing down intact enough that they still have a love for learning and playing.
Yeah, you're describing dorks in school that got beat up. Boo-fuckin'-hoo. If you read the article you'd realize that she said that this is NOT the stereotypical virus writer.
Writing viruses is a crucial part of our society, if it weren't for these smaller groups we wouldn't know how insecure everything is and if we didn't know how insecure everything is, we wouldn't be trying to secure it
Insecure from what? Oh yeah, script kiddies telling us how insecure our boxes are. It's a vicious cycle. Security wouldn't be a problem if not for these little spoiled shits with too much time on their hands.
Take Independance Day (Yea, the movie with all those aliens and ships nuking us). Why did we win? Because the aliens had bad computer security, that's why.
That was the most ridiculous movie I've ever seen. That doesn't prove anything. And yes, you are nuts. Fucking nuts if you think that the movie "Independence Day" proves anything.
Oh, so it's wrong for me to figure out what's wrong with a computer and fix it, but it's right for microsoft to lie to millions of people and advertise their OS as secure then bribe judges to be nice to them?
Last I checked, virus writers aren't fixing anything.
Kid, you're delusional. Get a job. Get a life. Get laid.
Just because you haven't had a failure yet, doesn't mean that it's a very, very valid risk. NO hard drive should be jostled or jarred. The heads are so close to the platters on these super-capacity hard drives, that it's very easy to destroy a hard drive by whacking it really good. You wouldn't shake around your PC while it was running, would you?
Personally, I think that any kind of mobile hard drive device is a bad idea, and that's exactly why I'd never buy an iPOD. I don't need 40 gig of music. I'd much rather have a player with no moving parts.
So what if "Bluetooth enabled" devices are selling? I've *never* seen anybody using Bluetooth in real life. Hell, I don't know anybody who even knows what in the hell it is. There are also billions of televisions that have shipped with the V-chip. I don't know of anyone who's ever used it.
... keep your goddamned machines patched. All it took was a 2 second patch from Windows Update, or a 15 second trip into the control panel to turn off the messanger service.
Oh, you mean by locking customers into expensive, proprietary software? No. They're already worse than that. They lock customers into expensive, proprietary software AND hardware.
I still never understood why the tech community was so quick to embrace this series as an icon
This is why I got out of tech a few years ago. Look at the tech community. Do you see any free thinking? New ideas? Hell, on/. on any given day, 1/2 of the posts are just regurgitated "MS sucks. Linux rules" posts. What truly NEW ideas have come out of tech? New things that come out of the tech industry are generally "this is faster, better, shinier", blah, blah blah. Techies read the white papers and obey. The tech industry is mostly groupthink, and that groupthink isn't all that bright. True new ideas and innovations very rarely eminate from here. It makes perfect sense for me that techies would idolize this movie. It's slicker, and shinier, but nothing that you really have to think about (hell, the "philosophy" behind the movie dates back to ancient Greek classical philsophy).
There's no such thing as a losing team. It's not a fucking game, and it's not a war, and it's not a religion. They're different products. That's it. They're fucking consumer products, first off, so get a grip. I don't hear people talk about a winning team when they're discussing the Triscuit vs. Wheat Thin wars.
No self respecting geek would consider Windows very stable and secure in any configuration
Hey, I'm not gonna argue with you. It's like arguing with a blind person that yes, the sky really IS blue, and not yellow.
If you love switching OS's, that's good for you. I have a life, so while you're drooling over installing OS's, I'm getting laid. Have fun!
And the amount of money you paid for your Red Hat distributions was probably not enough to cover a box of pencils for the company. Which is why they don't care that they're dropping the desktop. They don't want you, and you don't want them. It's a match made in heaven.
Oh yeah, and it's "Fuck you Red Hat". I don't think that "Fsck" is a word.
I think that you somehow missed the "Windows is very stable and secure if you know even a modicum about what you're doing" decision that the geek community has come to in the past few years. I'm not going to argue if you think that it's questionable whether or not W2K can run for 5-6 hours. That's just insane. And if you think that it costs a "lot" to upgrade from an old DOs windows to W2K, well, I just don't know what to tell you, since W2K costs less than that crappy software you're using. For someone whose business relies on a computer, you may want to learn a bit more before you make any rash decisions, because you still have a lot to learn.
Linux isn't necessarily going to help you. The problem is your hardware, or more than likely, your software. Of course W2K boxes run for more than 5-6 hours (I never vouch for the old DOS-based Windows... if you're using those professionally, that's your problem). Instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater, you should probably just troubleshoot what's wrong with your current system. And what's to say that that Linux box with the same shoddy software and/or hardware is going to be any better?
I just do it part time, but it definitely helps. Plus, it's a great first conversation. Works all the time. But then the women I end up with are generally incredibly hot, somewhat unstable. And you know, now that I mention it, this even works with the plain ol' secretarial/librarian types, too.
(sigh) kids, kids, kids. You can make an initial approach, but that initial approach can be just a look or a gesture. You don't walk up to a woman and say some version of "I like you. Let's fuck." or "I really like and respect you. Let's date." The game isn't played like that. You make her come after YOU. And yes, you make her wait, because all of that waiting makes her want you even more. If she's interested, she'll wait until you're ready. It's called having a bit of self respect. Once you're in a relationship, THEN when the woman says, "Hey, let's have sex", you can safely say, "Sure!".
I give the parent post a +10 insightful. I agree 100%. Respect and dignity is NOT what women want, even though they may say otherwise. I learned that through many years of experience, but if you want to try yourself, fine. You'll go home alone every night with that whole "respect and dignity" angle.
Chicks dig the fact that I run a porn site. What, do you think that I run it for my OWN benefit? Shit, I haven't looked at it in months. I don't need a porn site to spank to. I've got chicks throwing themselves at me. Personal hygene + the gym + ability to talk about things other than computers + confidence = pussy.
"The secret is picking your moment. Female redbacks aren't greedy; when they're not hungry, they don't eat. If you offer yourself right after she's feasted, forget it. You've got to wait until she gets that mean and hungry look in all eight of her beady little eyes. And then, for what you are about to receive, may your kiddies be truly thankful."
This is some good advice. The best way to get laid is not to pursue, and not to give a shit. If she's interested, let her chase you down. Hell, make her wait. Then when the time is right, BAM! Crazy, hot, dirty monkey sex.
... not all of us are fat and pasty, with spit coming out of the corners of our mouth when we talk, which so happens to always be about computerth. I get laid on a *very* regular basis (no, I'm not married), AND I've been posting on/. for a while now. So there.
just wait for the moment when hardware manufacturers realize that Win-only hardware doesn't sell all that well...
Well, in order for them to realize it, it has to actually come true, first. Call me crazy, but right now, I have a feeling that win-only hardware sells *very* well.
eventually grew out of my 'rainbow' phase and am back using Windows and sometimes even Linux (Yellow Dog, for when I'm feeling a little 'crazy'!), but the experience just isn't the same. We Mac users are a happy community, and sometimes I just want to give old Steve Jobs a hand.
Hang on... first you said you went through a "rainbow" phase. Then you said you grew out of it. And in the next sentence, you said you want to give Jobs a hand job. Now, what's up? Are you a fag or aren't you?
This might have something to do with the USB/firewire keyboards that everybody's always raving about. After all, you gotta have driver support for this silly shit. Call me nuts, but I'll stick with my nice, stable, BIOS enabled PS2 port keyboards.
I can't imagine people would tolerate this kind of BS for long.
In case you haven't noticed, Mac users have been tolerating this for years. They're constantly being dicked over and locked in, but they still WAIT IN LINE at midnight the day before an Apple product is released to fork over their hard earned money again and again. This is truly a new level of fanaticism that I've never seen in *any* other consumer product.
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Any hacker with sufficient knowledge of how to do this also knows that we live 3 meals from anarchy; if the accounting and shipping systems of a major food chain go down because of your virus and can't be brought back up again, the food won't get delivered. What happens to the inner cities and suburbs? The farms? Other countries?
Kid, critical shit isn't connected to the Internet. It's just not. Web servers don't count as mission critical. I don't think that anybody died because of "Blaster". Hackers are *not* that important.
They all come from varied backround but almost all have 2 things in common; they faced conflict at a young age that they overcame, and that they overcame our school system dumbing down intact enough that they still have a love for learning and playing.
Yeah, you're describing dorks in school that got beat up. Boo-fuckin'-hoo. If you read the article you'd realize that she said that this is NOT the stereotypical virus writer.
Writing viruses is a crucial part of our society, if it weren't for these smaller groups we wouldn't know how insecure everything is and if we didn't know how insecure everything is, we wouldn't be trying to secure it
Insecure from what? Oh yeah, script kiddies telling us how insecure our boxes are. It's a vicious cycle. Security wouldn't be a problem if not for these little spoiled shits with too much time on their hands.
Take Independance Day (Yea, the movie with all those aliens and ships nuking us). Why did we win? Because the aliens had bad computer security, that's why.
That was the most ridiculous movie I've ever seen. That doesn't prove anything. And yes, you are nuts. Fucking nuts if you think that the movie "Independence Day" proves anything.
Oh, so it's wrong for me to figure out what's wrong with a computer and fix it, but it's right for microsoft to lie to millions of people and advertise their OS as secure then bribe judges to be nice to them?
Last I checked, virus writers aren't fixing anything.
Kid, you're delusional. Get a job. Get a life. Get laid.
I do not think in a few years we will be able to recognize a computer. It will have evolved that much.
And the Linux geeks will be using *40* year old Unix commands, raving about vi and the great CLI.
Just because you haven't had a failure yet, doesn't mean that it's a very, very valid risk. NO hard drive should be jostled or jarred. The heads are so close to the platters on these super-capacity hard drives, that it's very easy to destroy a hard drive by whacking it really good. You wouldn't shake around your PC while it was running, would you?
Personally, I think that any kind of mobile hard drive device is a bad idea, and that's exactly why I'd never buy an iPOD. I don't need 40 gig of music. I'd much rather have a player with no moving parts.
So what if "Bluetooth enabled" devices are selling? I've *never* seen anybody using Bluetooth in real life. Hell, I don't know anybody who even knows what in the hell it is. There are also billions of televisions that have shipped with the V-chip. I don't know of anyone who's ever used it.
... keep your goddamned machines patched. All it took was a 2 second patch from Windows Update, or a 15 second trip into the control panel to turn off the messanger service.
Apple doesn't start going the way of Microsoft...
Oh, you mean by locking customers into expensive, proprietary software? No. They're already worse than that. They lock customers into expensive, proprietary software AND hardware.
I still never understood why the tech community was so quick to embrace this series as an icon
/. on any given day, 1/2 of the posts are just regurgitated "MS sucks. Linux rules" posts. What truly NEW ideas have come out of tech? New things that come out of the tech industry are generally "this is faster, better, shinier", blah, blah blah. Techies read the white papers and obey. The tech industry is mostly groupthink, and that groupthink isn't all that bright. True new ideas and innovations very rarely eminate from here. It makes perfect sense for me that techies would idolize this movie. It's slicker, and shinier, but nothing that you really have to think about (hell, the "philosophy" behind the movie dates back to ancient Greek classical philsophy).
This is why I got out of tech a few years ago. Look at the tech community. Do you see any free thinking? New ideas? Hell, on
Wake up NineNine, you are on the losing team.
There's no such thing as a losing team. It's not a fucking game, and it's not a war, and it's not a religion. They're different products. That's it. They're fucking consumer products, first off, so get a grip. I don't hear people talk about a winning team when they're discussing the Triscuit vs. Wheat Thin wars.
No self respecting geek would consider Windows very stable and secure in any configuration
Hey, I'm not gonna argue with you. It's like arguing with a blind person that yes, the sky really IS blue, and not yellow.
If you love switching OS's, that's good for you. I have a life, so while you're drooling over installing OS's, I'm getting laid. Have fun!
I've been a RedHat user since 5.1. No more.
And the amount of money you paid for your Red Hat distributions was probably not enough to cover a box of pencils for the company. Which is why they don't care that they're dropping the desktop. They don't want you, and you don't want them. It's a match made in heaven.
Oh yeah, and it's "Fuck you Red Hat". I don't think that "Fsck" is a word.
I think that you somehow missed the "Windows is very stable and secure if you know even a modicum about what you're doing" decision that the geek community has come to in the past few years. I'm not going to argue if you think that it's questionable whether or not W2K can run for 5-6 hours. That's just insane. And if you think that it costs a "lot" to upgrade from an old DOs windows to W2K, well, I just don't know what to tell you, since W2K costs less than that crappy software you're using. For someone whose business relies on a computer, you may want to learn a bit more before you make any rash decisions, because you still have a lot to learn.
Linux isn't necessarily going to help you. The problem is your hardware, or more than likely, your software. Of course W2K boxes run for more than 5-6 hours (I never vouch for the old DOS-based Windows... if you're using those professionally, that's your problem). Instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater, you should probably just troubleshoot what's wrong with your current system. And what's to say that that Linux box with the same shoddy software and/or hardware is going to be any better?
Yet another Linux zealot troll. Nothing to see here. Move along, people.
You haven't seen mine ;)
I just do it part time, but it definitely helps. Plus, it's a great first conversation. Works all the time. But then the women I end up with are generally incredibly hot, somewhat unstable. And you know, now that I mention it, this even works with the plain ol' secretarial/librarian types, too.
(sigh) kids, kids, kids. You can make an initial approach, but that initial approach can be just a look or a gesture. You don't walk up to a woman and say some version of "I like you. Let's fuck." or "I really like and respect you. Let's date." The game isn't played like that. You make her come after YOU. And yes, you make her wait, because all of that waiting makes her want you even more. If she's interested, she'll wait until you're ready. It's called having a bit of self respect. Once you're in a relationship, THEN when the woman says, "Hey, let's have sex", you can safely say, "Sure!".
I give the parent post a +10 insightful. I agree 100%. Respect and dignity is NOT what women want, even though they may say otherwise. I learned that through many years of experience, but if you want to try yourself, fine. You'll go home alone every night with that whole "respect and dignity" angle.
Chicks dig the fact that I run a porn site. What, do you think that I run it for my OWN benefit? Shit, I haven't looked at it in months. I don't need a porn site to spank to. I've got chicks throwing themselves at me. Personal hygene + the gym + ability to talk about things other than computers + confidence = pussy.
"The secret is picking your moment. Female redbacks aren't greedy; when they're not hungry, they don't eat. If you offer yourself right after she's feasted, forget it. You've got to wait until she gets that mean and hungry look in all eight of her beady little eyes. And then, for what you are about to receive, may your kiddies be truly thankful."
This is some good advice. The best way to get laid is not to pursue, and not to give a shit. If she's interested, let her chase you down. Hell, make her wait. Then when the time is right, BAM! Crazy, hot, dirty monkey sex.
... not all of us are fat and pasty, with spit coming out of the corners of our mouth when we talk, which so happens to always be about computerth. I get laid on a *very* regular basis (no, I'm not married), AND I've been posting on /. for a while now. So there.
Jesus, that's one tired ass Star Trek reference. How about you grow up and come up with an original throught?
just wait for the moment when hardware manufacturers realize that Win-only hardware doesn't sell all that well ...
Well, in order for them to realize it, it has to actually come true, first. Call me crazy, but right now, I have a feeling that win-only hardware sells *very* well.
eventually grew out of my 'rainbow' phase and am back using Windows and sometimes even Linux (Yellow Dog, for when I'm feeling a little 'crazy'!), but the experience just isn't the same. We Mac users are a happy community, and sometimes I just want to give old Steve Jobs a hand.
Hang on... first you said you went through a "rainbow" phase. Then you said you grew out of it. And in the next sentence, you said you want to give Jobs a hand job. Now, what's up? Are you a fag or aren't you?
This might have something to do with the USB/firewire keyboards that everybody's always raving about. After all, you gotta have driver support for this silly shit. Call me nuts, but I'll stick with my nice, stable, BIOS enabled PS2 port keyboards.
Thanks for the clarification. That's still a hell of a lot more generous than Apple's ridiculous hamster-in-a-wheel upgrade cycles.
I can't imagine people would tolerate this kind of BS for long.
In case you haven't noticed, Mac users have been tolerating this for years. They're constantly being dicked over and locked in, but they still WAIT IN LINE at midnight the day before an Apple product is released to fork over their hard earned money again and again. This is truly a new level of fanaticism that I've never seen in *any* other consumer product.