I would agree with your concern except that SCO is now taking a pretty big beating for this. Given their propensity for public statements to make themselves look good, you would expect them to immediately offer something better out of their thousands of lines of code. Since they didn't, it starting to not look good for them.
Now, maybe they are super geniuses, but just look at a collection of the mcbride quotes and I think that can put the general Linux user at ease.
Please complain to them. I use mailblocks and I will be writing a complaint letter in a few minutes.
Some points.
1) They have a right to try to make money but there is so much prior art in this, it is obvious this lawsuit is designed to delay the inevitable. They are killing good will
2) Somehow I don't see much difference in this lawsuit and lawsuits where spammers try to block their business to protect their own business.
3) I love your product, you are cutting edge and are a showcase for completely blocking spam and you are convenient and worth the $11 a month in my book, but if you piss me off as a customer, I will move to TMDA and never evangelize your product again.
Technology alone can win this.
The first generation was black lists. They have done an excellent job in getting things started but cannot entirely stop spam and as well, can stop legit e-mail.
The next generation that will win this battle is white lists coupled with challenge authentication. There are the simple solutions that require only a reply to authorize and there are more complex ones involving the reading of a GIF or JPEG. These solutions put the grunt work on the spammer and can easily be changed when spammers come up with circumvention methods. I predict a bright future with no spam, without any laws. No, really I do.
By using CPU or monetary postage for unidentified users. Or the are "you human"? Bitmap techniques, you can essentially stop spam in it's tracks.
The problem is implementing a new e-mail protocol that supports this.
I personally realized this a while back when I started recieving porn spam on my yahoo messenger. By only accepting messages from my friends list, I was able to stop it. If someone I didn't know wanted to IM me they had to request that I add them (standard challenge and response). Since them I signed up for a mailblocks account to manage my hotmail spam (200 spams per week). Spam has dropped to Zero (although there are still a few bugs they are working out to handle mail lists etc.
This is tantamount to "creating" a market that may not legitimately exist in the evolutionary business world. In my view they are just trying to cheat.
If I invent a very economical car but the only way to sell it is to underprice the car, then force you to buy my expensive gas to get my money back, are you morally obliged to buy my gas if you can find a cheap alternative? Charge what the product costs + whatever RD you need to cover. If consumers don't buy it because it is too expensive, the market is probably not ready for it.
I second the Amen on the good point. Standards do suck, but learning them is a one time process. One of the articles gives examples of code that is cumbersome, but you wrap that in a function one time and you reuse that code over and over. If you think xml files suck, you're going to love DTD's
Once I learned the DOM parser, it was easy to use it to layer my own parse method on top. Now I really can use. myDom=myParse.getDoc("somedoc.xml") Now if the element exists I can just write myDom.price/(myDom.revenues -myDom.expenses) or some variation of that.
>The Americans, outmatched by the British Forces >employed distinctly divergent tactics (raids, >ambushes etc) that were -- at the time -- >considered barbaric, disgraceful and unhonourable.... Terrorism.
That is not a good comparison. Maybe if you compared using gas warfare against occupying troops but reality is terrorism doesn't work. The U.S. and her allies both adopted terror bombing tactics in WW2 because the Germans employed it and they started out kicking everybody's ass. But in the end, Germany's focus on terror bombing in the air war, hurt her war effort.
U.S. military doctrine specifically recognizes the futility of terror bombing (terrorism). Aside from the political fallout, it has been show that it is an ineffective tactic in breaking the will of a population. At best it has little effect and at worst it galvanizes your enemy.
Killing non-combatants is a great way to make yourself feel better in an uncivilized world, it will never become an effective tactic such as guerrilla warfare.
who cares if he drives a wedge between a democracy and an monarchy/dictatorship. A strong aliance means nothing if it is a corrupt government that does not reflect the will of the people. Why the hell did we re-instate a monarchy in Kuwait?
The Danes have the right idea. Independance through innovation.
In a couple hundred years to see your great great great grandmother as a diamond along with a little blurb about her. You can actually touch your past. You're entire family tree could be locked away in a jewlery box.
Holy crap! You forgot one of the best movies of all time. Top Secret. What a classic. Val as Nick rivers. Who could forget latrine, and chocolate mousse and the ever handsome Nigel.
Don't bother taking exception with me. You're wrong and I'm right.
Interestingly enough, the story from the gaurdian turned out to be false. In some way I'm laughing because wouldn't it be nice if newspapers were held accountible for the truth. Anyway, I don't think speech should be a criminal case. Nobody should ever go to jail because they got the facts wrong. Liability via a lawsuit on the other hand...
If this is the case, why is the amount of spam mail I am receiving going through the roof? I have to believe that mail lists are being sold through loopholes. What about the folks who have their own mail servers so they can have address like expedia@mydomain, amazon@mydomain, etc... What do you guys see?
Well the majority of "unlawful" combatents we have are not afghani, they're arabs that came to afghanistan to fight a Jihad. We do have some high ranking afghans detained too.
To put it bluntly I think the netscape browser sucks. It's slow at rendering, and when I worked for a company that specialized in javascript,(please don't send me simpathy cards), We always found the real nasty javascript bugs in the netscape browser.
That doesn't take away from the anti-competitive behavior of M$, but what if I made a crappy browser a few years back and tried to sue. Would I have a legit standing.
A co-worker of mine found a strange machine on a corporate housing DSL network. Turned out to be a CEO of a consulting firm. My friend did poke around and noticed what could have been sensitive documents. He also was able to look at this individuals cookies. He was not able to find the guys e-mail directly so he contacted the company instead. The CEO called him directly, thanked him and offered to take him to dinner.
The big question is, would this guy have been as greatful if he knew the methods my co-worker used to figure out who he was? It's a fine line. Maybe being an anonymous good samaritan would be the better route.
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God, I'm still on version 1 of code red. Does anybody know where I can download the latest version? Is there a mail list I can get on so I know I have the lasted version on my IIS server?
Tnks.
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I would agree with your concern except that SCO is now taking a pretty big beating for this. Given their propensity for public statements to make themselves look good, you would expect them to immediately offer something better out of their thousands of lines of code. Since they didn't, it starting to not look good for them.
Now, maybe they are super geniuses, but just look at a collection of the mcbride quotes and I think that can put the general Linux user at ease.
Any ideal is just that, an ideal. We are humans and will never reach a true ideal, but that shouldn't stop us from trying.
"Entertainment-value speech is more important than human life". I'm very curious for examples.
Build technology to shoot down their moon rockets.
Some points.
1) They have a right to try to make money but there is so much prior art in this, it is obvious this lawsuit is designed to delay the inevitable. They are killing good will
2) Somehow I don't see much difference in this lawsuit and lawsuits where spammers try to block their business to protect their own business.
3) I love your product, you are cutting edge and are a showcase for completely blocking spam and you are convenient and worth the $11 a month in my book, but if you piss me off as a customer, I will move to TMDA and never evangelize your product again.
Technology alone can win this. The first generation was black lists. They have done an excellent job in getting things started but cannot entirely stop spam and as well, can stop legit e-mail. The next generation that will win this battle is white lists coupled with challenge authentication. There are the simple solutions that require only a reply to authorize and there are more complex ones involving the reading of a GIF or JPEG. These solutions put the grunt work on the spammer and can easily be changed when spammers come up with circumvention methods. I predict a bright future with no spam, without any laws. No, really I do.
By using CPU or monetary postage for unidentified users. Or the are "you human"? Bitmap techniques, you can essentially stop spam in it's tracks.
The problem is implementing a new e-mail protocol that supports this.
I personally realized this a while back when I started recieving porn spam on my yahoo messenger. By only accepting messages from my friends list, I was able to stop it. If someone I didn't know wanted to IM me they had to request that I add them (standard challenge and response). Since them I signed up for a mailblocks account to manage my hotmail spam (200 spams per week). Spam has dropped to Zero (although there are still a few bugs they are working out to handle mail lists etc.
This is tantamount to "creating" a market that may not legitimately exist in the evolutionary business world. In my view they are just trying to cheat.
If I invent a very economical car but the only way to sell it is to underprice the car, then force you to buy my expensive gas to get my money back, are you morally obliged to buy my gas if you can find a cheap alternative? Charge what the product costs + whatever RD you need to cover. If consumers don't buy it because it is too expensive, the market is probably not ready for it.
This dude is in the middle of a war in Iraq and just got fired. How the hell is he going to get home!
One word (or for if your anal) HTML. People looked at html on the web and saw it was good. XML looked alot like HTML. Must be good.
I second the Amen on the good point. Standards do suck, but learning them is a one time process. One of the articles gives examples of code that is cumbersome, but you wrap that in a function one time and you reuse that code over and over. If you think xml files suck, you're going to love DTD's
Once I learned the DOM parser, it was easy to
use it to layer my own parse method on top. Now I really can use.
myDom=myParse.getDoc("somedoc.xml")
Now if the element exists I can just write
myDom.price/(myDom.revenues -myDom.expenses) or some variation of that.
So there Brian, not so hard after all.
So trying not to flaimbait but here is a question:
Do you pay for hotmail?
If you don't , isn't it a little hard to be outraged?
If you do pay for hotmail and they shove that stuff down your throat you can at least threaten to take your business elsewhere.
Are you sure this applys in denmark?
I'll rot13 you!
>The Americans, outmatched by the British Forces >employed distinctly divergent tactics (raids, >ambushes etc) that were -- at the time -- >considered barbaric, disgraceful and unhonourable.... Terrorism.
That is not a good comparison. Maybe if you compared using gas warfare against occupying troops but reality is terrorism doesn't work. The U.S. and her allies both adopted terror bombing tactics in WW2 because the Germans employed it and they started out kicking everybody's ass. But in the end, Germany's focus on terror bombing in the air war, hurt her war effort.
U.S. military doctrine specifically recognizes the futility of terror bombing (terrorism). Aside from the political fallout, it has been show that it is an ineffective tactic in breaking the will of a population. At best it has little effect and at worst it galvanizes your enemy.
Killing non-combatants is a great way to make yourself feel better in an uncivilized world, it will never become an effective tactic such as guerrilla warfare.
who cares if he drives a wedge between a democracy and an monarchy/dictatorship. A strong aliance means nothing if it is a corrupt government that does not reflect the will of the people. Why the hell did we re-instate a monarchy in Kuwait?
The Danes have the right idea. Independance through innovation.
In a couple hundred years to see your great great great grandmother as a diamond along with a little blurb about her. You can actually touch your past. You're entire family tree could be locked away in a jewlery box.
Holy crap! You forgot one of the best movies of all time. Top Secret. What a classic. Val as Nick rivers. Who could forget latrine, and chocolate mousse and the ever handsome Nigel.
Don't bother taking exception with me. You're wrong and I'm right.
Interestingly enough, the story from the gaurdian turned out to be false. In some way I'm laughing because wouldn't it be nice if newspapers were held accountible for the truth. Anyway, I don't think speech should be a criminal case. Nobody should ever go to jail because they got the facts wrong. Liability via a lawsuit on the other hand ...
Wouldn't it be nice if they could stick it back to oracle by reselling all the licenses at a large discount?
If this is the case, why is the amount of spam mail I am receiving going through the roof? I have to believe that mail lists are being sold through loopholes. What about the folks who have their own mail servers so they can have address like expedia@mydomain, amazon@mydomain, etc... What do you guys see?
Well the majority of "unlawful" combatents we have are not afghani, they're arabs that came to afghanistan to fight a Jihad. We do have some high ranking afghans detained too.
Count me in as one of the fools who voted backwards.
To put it bluntly I think the netscape browser sucks. It's slow at rendering, and when I worked for a company that specialized in javascript ,(please don't send me simpathy cards), We always found the real nasty javascript bugs in the netscape browser.
That doesn't take away from the anti-competitive behavior of M$, but what if I made a crappy browser a few years back and tried to sue. Would I have a legit standing.
A co-worker of mine found a strange machine on a corporate housing DSL network. Turned out to be a CEO of a consulting firm. My friend did poke around and noticed what could have been sensitive documents. He also was able to look at this individuals cookies. He was not able to find the guys e-mail directly so he contacted the company instead. The CEO called him directly, thanked him and offered to take him to dinner.
The big question is, would this guy have been as greatful if he knew the methods my co-worker used to figure out who he was? It's a fine line. Maybe being an anonymous good samaritan would be the better route.
God, I'm still on version 1 of code red. Does anybody know where I can download the latest version? Is there a mail list I can get on so I know I have the lasted version on my IIS server?
Tnks.