You only need the WS variety for your applications. You can install RPMs for Bind and Postfix on a WS Redhat enterprise.
So that would make it $179 / 2 = $89.50 per year $89.50 / 2 = $44.75 per machine
One of the machines would be entitled for support not the other. So you would have to manually scp the security updates from the up2date folder and run rpm -Uvh yourself...
You could also run Fedora (= Redhat Linux free version) with up2date.
Or you could switch to Mac OS X ($129 per machine with automatic daily software update)...
Redhat are doing the right thing. The message they have sent is clear. Seems that lots of people on/. don't know how to read...
You mean you do things other than working? That isn't obvious from reading/.
Higher quality of life: I prefer walking in forests that aren't dying because of acid rain. As for the air you breath...
I have moved from a 60 hour week to a 28 hour week. My health (physical and mental) are much better. I go to the swimming pool twice a week and walk everywhere I can rather than drive. I cook all our food. It saves us about 15-20% compared with prepared food (frozen, canned, delicatesen). It tastes better and is healthier too.
On the financial side I earn less but I also pay less social security and tax. The interesting part is that I have more time to spend the part that is left over after the taxman has passed!
My other half has 45 days paid holiday (9 weeks) and works full time now. For the last 10 years she had been working from home while raising the kids. We just swapped roles at the end of last year. Now our sons are old enough to need dad around to help with homework etc.
They are very different from some of the other childern we know - the ones who only see their parents on the weekend...
That is what I call quality of life (reminds me of the scene from a Monty Python movie...)
Nail hit on head - economy of USA is in flat tail spin because these people are _only_ getting 10% return on billions. They should be increasing by 15-20% a year without sweating it.
Linux has nothing to do with site defacement. Buggy Apache modules do...
I have used off the shelf exploits on my brothers IIS web server that got me into his web servers file system. I don't know who is to blame - Windows or IIS... But when you see a defaced Linux web server the answer is nearly always "php"...
Maybe they know like I do that you can run NT stable this way? There is something in the hardware abstraction layer of VMware that makes NT much more stable.
It also lets you run NT on hardware that it wouldn't run on normally (Sony Vaio C1XD Picturebook in my case). So they can keep NT and run it on any hardware IBM has on offer today.
Because there is no lowend IDE like Dreamweaver MX for Linux! And IDEs like Dreamweaver make good business sense because they let real people make little usefull apps and let the programmers get on with the hard stuff.
But we already have Java and Beans we really don't need.NET. Microsoft would prefer that you buy VS.net rather than Dreamweaver MX.
I think that ColdFusion is a much better idea for those just starting out though
The wheel doesn't work with NT in my VMware virtual machine. What? NT doesn't know what a wheelmouse is? Isn't Windows some kind of standard OS with Plug and Play? It works in Mac OS 9!
step 1: plug KVM mouse cable into KVM step 2: plug KVM mouse cable into computer step 3: plug mouse into KVM console mouse port step 4: turn on the KVM and the computer
That is how I got it to work with RedHat Linux 8.0 on one side and Mac OS X 10.2.x on the other side of my KVM
When are these weasels going to stop innovating (thats bill's job) and got to war alongside the US coalition(tm)? Preferably to beat the sh@t out of defenseless tiny little countries with trailors that could have been used to make WMD. (If our companies had sold them the ingredients and optional equipment)
That is why I don't buy music. And with a "you steal music" tax on each and every CD-R I buy I would be stupid not to "steal" the music that I have already paid for...
> The Motion Picture Association of America, representing major Hollywood studios such as Walt Disney Co. (NYSE:DIS - news), Universal Studios (EAUG.PA) (NYSE:V - news) and Warner Bros (NYSE:AOL - news), filed the original complaint at Norway's Economic Crime Unit.
The MPAA doesn't seem to be a Norwegan organisation... It seems to represent arrogant imperialists who think that brute force is they way of making the world work the way they want it to work...
> I had to do some work on a Postgres system over the weekend. I come from a MySQL background.... and >Having used both, I can honestly say that I'd rather wait for MySQL to add the one thing I'm actually waiting for: stored procedures, than use Postgres. Postgres just gives me the shits. Maybe that's why MySQL is the No1 open source database.
Excuse me but "had to do some work over the weekend" isn't the same thing as "having used both"...
You had the time in one weekend to learn all the stuff that most PostgreSQL admins learn over a few weeks or months?
I use PostgreSQL because it has always been free and it has never lost data. I haven't had a command line segfault since 1997 so I guess I must also have my server set up correctly...
And if I was to say bad things about MySQL (which I couldn't use in 1997 because it wasn't free) I would take at least two weeks to learn it - not just 2 days.
> Why is it that we are so jaded that we are more concerned with using death and destruction as a political tool rather than trying to stop death and destruction?
Because you have large corporations that make lots of money from it. This creates wealth and jobs.
On the political side: you get what you vote for...
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Did you read the mail they sent you?
/. don't know how to read...
You get a 50% reduction for two years.
You only need the WS variety for your applications. You can install RPMs for Bind and Postfix on a WS Redhat enterprise.
So that would make it $179 / 2 = $89.50 per year
$89.50 / 2 = $44.75 per machine
One of the machines would be entitled for support not the other. So you would have to manually scp the security updates from the up2date folder and run rpm -Uvh yourself...
You could also run Fedora (= Redhat Linux free version) with up2date.
Or you could switch to Mac OS X ($129 per machine with automatic daily software update)...
Redhat are doing the right thing. The message they have sent is clear. Seems that lots of people on
I learnt Linux by installing it in VPC on a Mac power book in 1997.
Everything that could go wrong did - but I sure learnt how to set up Linux!
You mean you do things other than working? That isn't obvious from reading /.
Higher quality of life: I prefer walking in forests that aren't dying because of acid rain. As for the air you breath...
I have moved from a 60 hour week to a 28 hour week. My health (physical and mental) are much better. I go to the swimming pool twice a week and walk everywhere I can rather than drive. I cook all our food. It saves us about 15-20% compared with prepared food (frozen, canned, delicatesen). It tastes better and is healthier too.
On the financial side I earn less but I also pay less social security and tax. The interesting part is that I have more time to spend the part that is left over after the taxman has passed!
My other half has 45 days paid holiday (9 weeks) and works full time now. For the last 10 years she had been working from home while raising the kids. We just swapped roles at the end of last year. Now our sons are old enough to need dad around to help with homework etc.
They are very different from some of the other childern we know - the ones who only see their parents on the weekend...
That is what I call quality of life (reminds me of the scene from a Monty Python movie...)
Can you guess I had too much red wine at dinner?
=:-p
aplix
I just live here I'm not one of them
But a name like Georges De Mestral isn't really German Swiss nor Italian Swiss is it? He was a French speaking Swiss.
And of course when I say weasel I'm joking - the weasels live in the White House garden under the shrubs, down near the back entrance.
Same thing - Swiss French all weasels
Velcro is a French invention
That's what I used to think. You get what you pay for believe me:
no more parking problems = many hours saved looking for space (that has a price)
low running costs
comfortable seats (I regularly drive to clients 400 Km in a day)
I only own a Smart and when we go somewhere as a familly we rent a larger car. Believe me when I say that the Smart is worth every cent (Euro)
I drive a Smart for anything over 3 km (2 miles) walking distance away.
I would love to mod you up to the top for this!
Nail hit on head - economy of USA is in flat tail spin because these people are _only_ getting 10% return on billions. They should be increasing by 15-20% a year without sweating it.
This means that too many people are putting blind faith in php.
It is php which is getting hacked not Linux.
More people should read this
Linux has nothing to do with site defacement. Buggy Apache modules do...
I have used off the shelf exploits on my brothers IIS web server that got me into his web servers file system. I don't know who is to blame - Windows or IIS... But when you see a defaced Linux web server the answer is nearly always "php"...
The USA doesn't care about the environement. They only care about short term profit.
Maybe they know like I do that you can run NT stable this way? There is something in the hardware abstraction layer of VMware that makes NT much more stable.
It also lets you run NT on hardware that it wouldn't run on normally (Sony Vaio C1XD Picturebook in my case). So they can keep NT and run it on any hardware IBM has on offer today.
Because there is no lowend IDE like Dreamweaver MX for Linux! And IDEs like Dreamweaver make good business sense because they let real people make little usefull apps and let the programmers get on with the hard stuff.
.NET. Microsoft would prefer that you buy VS.net rather than Dreamweaver MX.
But we already have Java and Beans we really don't need
I think that ColdFusion is a much better idea for those just starting out though
What did you use to develop JSP?
I really don't see any difference in capablities (separation of code and layout have always been the way to fly in JSP).
And with JSP I can use the same IDE on Windows, Mac and Linux = NetBeans. Or for quick low end stuff Dreamweaver MX.
The wheel doesn't work with NT in my VMware virtual machine. What? NT doesn't know what a wheelmouse is? Isn't Windows some kind of standard OS with Plug and Play? It works in Mac OS 9!
Macs don't have PS/2 ports! Yeah well just to make things more complicated I have USB -> PS/2 converter cables too.
And it still works!
step 1: plug KVM mouse cable into KVM
step 2: plug KVM mouse cable into computer
step 3: plug mouse into KVM console mouse port
step 4: turn on the KVM and the computer
That is how I got it to work with RedHat Linux 8.0 on one side and Mac OS X 10.2.x on the other side of my KVM
minitel, concorde, TGV...
When are these weasels going to stop innovating (thats bill's job) and got to war alongside the US coalition(tm)? Preferably to beat the sh@t out of defenseless tiny little countries with trailors that could have been used to make WMD. (If our companies had sold them the ingredients and optional equipment)
How many kids were shot dead in East LA and other inner city "hot spots"?
That is where people live in terror IMVHO
And $18 or $19?
That is why I don't buy music. And with a "you steal music" tax on each and every CD-R I buy I would be stupid not to "steal" the music that I have already paid for...
> The Motion Picture Association of America, representing major Hollywood studios such as Walt Disney Co. (NYSE:DIS - news), Universal Studios (EAUG.PA) (NYSE:V - news) and Warner Bros (NYSE:AOL - news), filed the original complaint at Norway's Economic Crime Unit.
The MPAA doesn't seem to be a Norwegan organisation... It seems to represent arrogant imperialists who think that brute force is they way of making the world work the way they want it to work...
> I had to do some work on a Postgres system over the weekend. I come from a MySQL background. ... and
>Having used both, I can honestly say that I'd rather wait for MySQL to add the one thing I'm actually waiting for: stored procedures, than use Postgres. Postgres just gives me the shits. Maybe that's why MySQL is the No1 open source database.
Excuse me but "had to do some work over the weekend" isn't the same thing as "having used both"...
You had the time in one weekend to learn all the stuff that most PostgreSQL admins learn over a few weeks or months?
I use PostgreSQL because it has always been free and it has never lost data. I haven't had a command line segfault since 1997 so I guess I must also have my server set up correctly...
And if I was to say bad things about MySQL (which I couldn't use in 1997 because it wasn't free) I would take at least two weeks to learn it - not just 2 days.
> Why is it that we are so jaded that we are more concerned with using death and destruction as a political tool rather than trying to stop death and destruction?
Because you have large corporations that make lots of money from it. This creates wealth and jobs.
On the political side: you get what you vote for...