Your comment sounds like the democrats and republicans fighting over every stinkin' piece of legislation that has gone through congress over the last 12 years. Two sides each standing as far to the extreme as possible making stupid if not totally wrong and invalid arguments on how they are right and the other side is wrong.
Even using my two fingers and the occasional thumb, I can type way faster than I can talk. And before you say I am oraly challenged, my wife will be more than happy to tell you I eat way faster than I type.
I find that for many things the command line is a real pain to use. Things such as web browsing email, accounting and similar things.
Then again, I find that the gui sucks just as bad for doing bulk text searches, builds, finding files and acting on them in bulk.
Why can't folks figure out that a hammer is good for smacking things and a shovel is good for digging. Granted you can smak things with a shovel and you can dig with a shovel, but you will work much more effectively if you use the right tool for the job at hand!
Yes, free markets are the answer to everything. Look at how much better the world is now that the free markets 'equalized' the excesses of the sub-prime mortgages where lenders were lending money to every one and their dog, especially after they repealed the law seperating the investment banks from the regular banks. 'Let the markets go free' they cried 'They will self regulate, because the bankers don't want to go broke!'. Hmmmm.... they had a point. I have yet to hear of a banker, who as an individual, when broke! Maybe a stupid one did, but I suspect most walked away with a tidy little sum.
and simple yet cohesive syntax (there's generally only 1 way to do a specific task which makes it really easy to read somebody else's code)
Bwaaaa haaaa haaaaa!!! That's a new one I haven't heard yet. I've seen code books and example code on line which is totally indecipherable! Literally as bad as the purposely obfuscated C programs you can find on line.
I can add this to the rules I have learned about Java.
1) Everything is an object except those things that aren't such as ints and chars and floats.
2) Java has no pointers, everything is a pointer, except those things that aren't (see 1).
Null pointer exceptions are great. They prove rule #2 that Java has does in fact have pointers (yes, I'm old enough that this was one of the biggest pluses to sell Java, it doesn't have pointers like that nastier C language. They would be much better (as would most run time exceptions) if they didn't just kill the thread they occurred in, but the whole damned program like they do in C/C++.
Java would is an okay language. It makes you type type type. It would be nice if just had a few tweaks. Sadly, the tweaks are tweaks that will never occur because the 'keepers' think they are evil, or they would break compatibility.
I can crash my Java programs just as quick as my C++ programs! Just one exception in the right place makes the program quit running without apparent reason. Safe my ASS! Hidden garbage collection does not make a program safe! That is all Java offers for safety. I can still get Null Pointer Exceptions (pretty slick for a language with NO POINTERS). I can still run out of memory in any number of ways, especially when dealing with activemq and hibernate and not cleaning up.
So in the end, Java or C++ you have to actually think BEFORE and WHILE you code or you end up with a big stinking pile of crap you call a program. What C++ has over Java is only about a 5th of the typing to see if two objects are equal. Java has things over C++ but those can be worked around (just like so many thinks have been worked around Java to overcome it's short comings).
You put is best when you said Java is mediocre. Which confirms my 3rd rule of life: Mass mediocracy breeds mass popularity, or vice versa.
If you have to ask questions about how much memory your program uses, you can't afford it.
In Java, the simplicity is that you write code (preferably something abstracting someone elses code) and don't let little things like memory and performance bother you.
Now back to reality, it's interesting as an experiment, but in all practicle purposes for what? If you are running on an OS such as linux or windows, use the services they offer you. Why invent the wheel? Certainly, why write in assembly code? Now if you are running on a AVR or the like (yes, I do that) I can see why some would go and use assembly, but still, even then I use C/C++ It's amazing what you can stuff into 32K of flash and 2K of ram
I figured out just recently that the first goal of any true Java developer is to write an abstraction layer/framework to abstract previous abstraction layers/frameworks written before them.
Now, this week, I learn the 2nd goal. Write a way cool looking but really very complex development environment to help you muddle one's way through the myriad of abstraction layers already written.
All of this just to help overcome the basics such as overloading operators.
In all seriousness, this seems to show too little information with too much space in between. My screen real estate is vary valuable. Not to be wasted with pretty colored borders and arrows and such.
It doesn't matter if we are the largest exported or importer; if ALL of the money does not come back, through exports on our part, we are borrowing. Sooner or later we WILL have to pay our debtors back.
As far as our tax policies, the holders of my credit card debt and my house loan don't care about my policies which caused me to take on the debt, they only care about me making my payments.
For now, the world likes our currency and are willing to hold onto it (the IOUs we call dollars). Hopefully they will continue to do so through my life. I'm thankful I am not my children.
Remind me to never lend you any money! Heck, remind me later that your word is as good as the paper it is written on or the air that it is spoken with.
So I assume you mean the conservatives will renig on their promise to pay back the debt? Just to be clear, both parties and ALL Americans (well by far most) are at fault for this. The Brits are only at fault for their own economic mess.
And that is where the bliss comes in. Lets aqll BLISSFULY IGNORE(ance) the fact that we keep buying goods from other nations and don't sell them as much back. Just like any good electrical system, once the differential between the poles is high enough, there will be an arc when the dollars WILL come back. the question will be is what will it do to us then? I guessing rampant inflation OR a total loss of our country, I hope for the latter, though it won't be pretty either!
The author is quite blissful! He completely forget that what he is saying is true, but only half of the truth. In the end, we still need $4.00 of exports TO china to make it all balance out.
When we import any thing, some number of dollars leave this nation. If a corresponding number of exports be it in commodities such as grain or coal, or brain share such as banking services or designs (or legal fees), is not made, we end up owing the nation from which we imported the good from.
In other words, if we import $200,000,000 in a year and only export $150,000,000, we end up owing $50,000,000. Sooner or later those dollars WILL have to make it back to us, whether it is from the other nation buying buildings, gold or politicians (us: china please be kind to your people. china: mind your own business or we will collect on your debt!).
Of course the numbers I quoted are quite small compared to reality. Scale them accordingly.
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-joe
scroodled?
Your comment sounds like the democrats and republicans fighting over every stinkin' piece of legislation that has gone through congress over the last 12 years. Two sides each standing as far to the extreme as possible making stupid if not totally wrong and invalid arguments on how they are right and the other side is wrong.
Sadly, I don't see it stopping anytime soon.
about us being enslaved by the government. I'm sure they had no qualms about us being enslaved by our corporate leaders.
Now bow down and submit to our corporate benefactors and overlords.
Even using my two fingers and the occasional thumb, I can type way faster than I can talk. And before you say I am oraly challenged, my wife will be more than happy to tell you I eat way faster than I type.
I'm so sick of hearing it!
I find that for many things the command line is a real pain to use. Things such as web browsing email, accounting and similar things.
Then again, I find that the gui sucks just as bad for doing bulk text searches, builds, finding files and acting on them in bulk.
Why can't folks figure out that a hammer is good for smacking things and a shovel is good for digging. Granted you can smak things with a shovel and you can dig with a shovel, but you will work much more effectively if you use the right tool for the job at hand!
Yes, free markets are the answer to everything. Look at how much better the world is now that the free markets 'equalized' the excesses of the sub-prime mortgages where lenders were lending money to every one and their dog, especially after they repealed the law seperating the investment banks from the regular banks. 'Let the markets go free' they cried 'They will self regulate, because the bankers don't want to go broke!'. Hmmmm.... they had a point. I have yet to hear of a banker, who as an individual, when broke! Maybe a stupid one did, but I suspect most walked away with a tidy little sum.
and simple yet cohesive syntax (there's generally only 1 way to do a specific task which makes it really easy to read somebody else's code)
Bwaaaa haaaa haaaaa!!! That's a new one I haven't heard yet. I've seen code books and example code on line which is totally indecipherable! Literally as bad as the purposely obfuscated C programs you can find on line.
I can add this to the rules I have learned about Java.
1) Everything is an object except those things that aren't such as ints and chars and floats.
2) Java has no pointers, everything is a pointer, except those things that aren't (see 1).
Null pointer exceptions are great. They prove rule #2 that Java has does in fact have pointers (yes, I'm old enough that this was one of the biggest pluses to sell Java, it doesn't have pointers like that nastier C language. They would be much better (as would most run time exceptions) if they didn't just kill the thread they occurred in, but the whole damned program like they do in C/C++.
Java would is an okay language. It makes you type type type. It would be nice if just had a few tweaks. Sadly, the tweaks are tweaks that will never occur because the 'keepers' think they are evil, or they would break compatibility.
-joe
I can crash my Java programs just as quick as my C++ programs! Just one exception in the right place makes the program quit running without apparent reason. Safe my ASS! Hidden garbage collection does not make a program safe! That is all Java offers for safety. I can still get Null Pointer Exceptions (pretty slick for a language with NO POINTERS). I can still run out of memory in any number of ways, especially when dealing with activemq and hibernate and not cleaning up.
So in the end, Java or C++ you have to actually think BEFORE and WHILE you code or you end up with a big stinking pile of crap you call a program. What C++ has over Java is only about a 5th of the typing to see if two objects are equal. Java has things over C++ but those can be worked around (just like so many thinks have been worked around Java to overcome it's short comings).
You put is best when you said Java is mediocre. Which confirms my 3rd rule of life: Mass mediocracy breeds mass popularity, or vice versa.
when you think of it as an abstraction layer on top of Cobol
-joe
It's like lisp on steroids. Maybe I'm getting too old for somethings. I'll leave 'Church' to the computer scientist types with their PHDs
Sir, by your style of writing I see that you will make (if you are not already) a superior Enterprise Java programmer! Good luck in your endeavors.
8P~~~~~~~~~~~
(Yes, I sank to your level with my equally meaningful response.)
If you have to ask questions about how much memory your program uses, you can't afford it.
In Java, the simplicity is that you write code (preferably something abstracting someone elses code) and don't let little things like memory and performance bother you.
Now back to reality, it's interesting as an experiment, but in all practicle purposes for what? If you are running on an OS such as linux or windows, use the services they offer you. Why invent the wheel? Certainly, why write in assembly code? Now if you are running on a AVR or the like (yes, I do that) I can see why some would go and use assembly, but still, even then I use C/C++ It's amazing what you can stuff into 32K of flash and 2K of ram
I guess facebook runs by different rules than regular life.
I figured out just recently that the first goal of any true Java developer is to write an abstraction layer/framework to abstract previous abstraction layers/frameworks written before them.
Now, this week, I learn the 2nd goal. Write a way cool looking but really very complex development environment to help you muddle one's way through the myriad of abstraction layers already written.
All of this just to help overcome the basics such as overloading operators.
In all seriousness, this seems to show too little information with too much space in between. My screen real estate is vary valuable. Not to be wasted with pretty colored borders and arrows and such.
-joe
heh heh, I like it, patches and cream. At least 1 in three (maybe the ration will go down as time goes on) actually figured out I was being facetious.
the world would be better off if you just kept it to yourself. No need for the bad code offsets.
With that said, I have yet to run nto a developer who confessed to writing bad code. I know my code is all peaches and cream!
The primary purpose of every law passed has the creating 1 or more jobs, whether they are productive jobs or not.
It doesn't matter if we are the largest exported or importer; if ALL of the money does not come back, through exports on our part, we are borrowing. Sooner or later we WILL have to pay our debtors back.
As far as our tax policies, the holders of my credit card debt and my house loan don't care about my policies which caused me to take on the debt, they only care about me making my payments.
For now, the world likes our currency and are willing to hold onto it (the IOUs we call dollars). Hopefully they will continue to do so through my life. I'm thankful I am not my children.
Remind me to never lend you any money! Heck, remind me later that your word is as good as the paper it is written on or the air that it is spoken with.
Spoken like a truely ignorant left wing tat! A cowardly one at that.
So I assume you mean the conservatives will renig on their promise to pay back the debt? Just to be clear, both parties and ALL Americans (well by far most) are at fault for this. The Brits are only at fault for their own economic mess.
And that is where the bliss comes in. Lets aqll BLISSFULY IGNORE(ance) the fact that we keep buying goods from other nations and don't sell them as much back. Just like any good electrical system, once the differential between the poles is high enough, there will be an arc when the dollars WILL come back. the question will be is what will it do to us then? I guessing rampant inflation OR a total loss of our country, I hope for the latter, though it won't be pretty either!
The author is quite blissful! He completely forget that what he is saying is true, but only half of the truth. In the end, we still need $4.00 of exports TO china to make it all balance out.
When we import any thing, some number of dollars leave this nation. If a corresponding number of exports be it in commodities such as grain or coal, or brain share such as banking services or designs (or legal fees), is not made, we end up owing the nation from which we imported the good from.
In other words, if we import $200,000,000 in a year and only export $150,000,000, we end up owing $50,000,000. Sooner or later those dollars WILL have to make it back to us, whether it is from the other nation buying buildings, gold or politicians (us: china please be kind to your people. china: mind your own business or we will collect on your debt!).
Of course the numbers I quoted are quite small compared to reality. Scale them accordingly.