In the same way that capitalism has been tried and failed because you can't remove greed from the human condition. Someone will always take advantage of their position and grab more than they deserve leaving the less able or unfortunate with less than they deserve. The downside to communism appears to be stagnation/reduced competitiveness which in a global society is less of an issue than it used to be when states used to compete with each other.
People in the third world DO tend to fix their own cars because they can't afford to pay someone else and by their own determination can work out how to do it.
Same goes for software.
The only reason Windows appears easier to use to us is because we are familiar with it.
Give it to someone who has had no exposure to it and they'll be, like "Why does this user interface not behave in a logical way?. Why does this program not do what it's supposed to? Why do I have to pay for the fooobar plugin that I need to complete this task?"
Give them OSS and they'll say, "this doesn't behave the way I want, I'll work out how it works and change it. Or, ooooh, I've just found a bug, I'll fix it."
Try not to judge other people by your own standards, give them the tools and stand back and watch them flourish.
Access clone?
What are you smoking?
OpenOffice has it's own built in database (HSQLDB) and can connect to most "proper" databases as well!
It can also connect to Access if you are feeling masochistic.
RPM is not analogous to apt-get, YUM is.
RPM is analogous to DPKG.
pkgadd is analogous to my arse (in terms of package management), unless it has gained the ability to pull in dependencies since I last had to wrestle with it.
For an insignificant (and hypothetical) case like this, we really are only just talking about principles and the ramifications seem innocuous. However these same principles have ensured that we still have an open and freely available OS/kernel even though it outperforms proprietary solutions. The fact that a person or corporation hasn't become fantastically wealthy through the success of GNU/Linux probably scares the bejesus out of all the brainwashed, vested interest, capitalists out there.
Talk about FUD and controlling others and pushing agendas. The proprietary industry has it's lobbyists and lawyers and all the money in the world (which they got from us, the long suffering and abused customer). All we have is an itty bitty license and they are scared shitless because regardless of what you think about the personalities of the drafter/s, they saw what was happening and gave us an alternative.
We didn't have to take it but we did and look where it's got us. I have a whale of a time with OSS. I am only limited by my abilities and imagination.
I already make my good living through specialising in OSS and my hope is that we can commoditise (?) the OS and utilities and then we can really start progressing, working on the really tricky problems rather than working out why the OS keeps crashing or doesn't scale.
Enough.
I choose GPL, you choose what you want and we'll see who's laughing in five years time.
I was replying to the comment, not the poster, hence the nesting level.
Understand?
I, like most GPL users, don't evangelise as I don't see the need to. There are enough excellent people working with GPL'd software to not require encouraging selfish assholes to join in.
I do, however, have a problem understanding why people don't seem to make the link between the success of GPL'd software and the terms of said license. It is successful BECAUSE of the license.
I could also rephrase the last part of your statement....
He wants to shaft the OSS community whilst ensuring that no-one can shaft him.
Nope. LVM was done by Sistina, I've been running it on my lightly loaded home server for ~3 years with no major problems. Minor problem with my mp3 collection which is on Reiserfs over LVM which has been extended a couple of times (as you do). Some of the files are corrupted, starts off as Thin Lizzy then jumps to a Cure track and then Dire Straits. I don't know if it was the resize_reiserfs that did it or the lvextend (or my PC objecting to Dire Straits). I have extended another logical volume which is ext3 over LVM without any problems but I don't think you can draw any conclusions from that.
Just my.5 Euro worth.
All very well and good, although after checking out both 3ait and netproject, I can't actually work out what you do!
I also have some issues with a couple of statements on the netproject site. I know that Bleasdale Computer Systems was the first to build a Unix server in Europe (it's still there under a desk at the former headquarters in Lutterworth, leics) but stating that it is the "longest established Unix systems company in the world" seems a bit strange considering they were bought out by XKO Group a couple of years ago. I also disagree with the statement about the reliability of the Ambulance systems. Yes they were very reliable, but no failures at all?? I know from personal experience that some of the Ambulance services they covered had to "go to paper" on several occasions due to normal hardware failures and some funny SCO problems. OK the one example that springs to mind was last year when the VME backplane failed on the DG Avion system at West Wales Ambulance, no suprise after ~10 years really.
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China is as much communist as the USA is capitalist. Just put the word "crony" in front of both and I think that will be closer to the truth.
In the same way that capitalism has been tried and failed because you can't remove greed from the human condition. Someone will always take advantage of their position and grab more than they deserve leaving the less able or unfortunate with less than they deserve. The downside to communism appears to be stagnation/reduced competitiveness which in a global society is less of an issue than it used to be when states used to compete with each other.
Easy, http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/971492.mspx
Have a nice day!
That and the requirement for Oracle as the DBMS. Hahahahahahahahhahahah.
Surely that's Butthole Surfers, not Orbital?
perfectly functional line of sanity
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Unfortunately Mr Pratchett may well end up in such a state of perfect functionality in the hopefully-not-too-soon future!
No sane person would want to run IIS, MSSQL or ASP on Unix OR Windows, which is why AMP is available for Windows.
Get it?
People in the third world DO tend to fix their own cars because they can't afford to pay someone else and by their own determination can work out how to do it.
Same goes for software.
The only reason Windows appears easier to use to us is because we are familiar with it.
Give it to someone who has had no exposure to it and they'll be, like "Why does this user interface not behave in a logical way?. Why does this program not do what it's supposed to? Why do I have to pay for the fooobar plugin that I need to complete this task?"
Give them OSS and they'll say, "this doesn't behave the way I want, I'll work out how it works and change it. Or, ooooh, I've just found a bug, I'll fix it."
Try not to judge other people by your own standards, give them the tools and stand back and watch them flourish.
Do we need religion to tell us that homosexuality is immoral when all decent, normal people know that it isn't?
Religion is an anachronism and no longer serves any purpose other than self propagation.
The sooner we can de-program all the believers the sooner we can start making some real progress as a global community.
yeah and X has had the ability to support multiple everything (not just screens) for decades.
ner ner ne ner ner.
dia2code does diagrams to code but I don't think it does the other way round. A good project for someone with an itch to scratch!
Cheers!
Access clone?
What are you smoking?
OpenOffice has it's own built in database (HSQLDB) and can connect to most "proper" databases as well!
It can also connect to Access if you are feeling masochistic.
RPM is not analogous to apt-get, YUM is. RPM is analogous to DPKG. pkgadd is analogous to my arse (in terms of package management), unless it has gained the ability to pull in dependencies since I last had to wrestle with it.
RHEL 3's sources are GPLed that's why they have to make the src RPMs freely available on their website.
What, like IMAP-IDLE?
> There is no way for anyone to take free code and "hijack it and close it".
Dlink?
TomTom?
For an insignificant (and hypothetical) case like this, we really are only just talking about principles and the ramifications seem innocuous. However these same principles have ensured that we still have an open and freely available OS/kernel even though it outperforms proprietary solutions. The fact that a person or corporation hasn't become fantastically wealthy through the success of GNU/Linux probably scares the bejesus out of all the brainwashed, vested interest, capitalists out there.
Talk about FUD and controlling others and pushing agendas. The proprietary industry has it's lobbyists and lawyers and all the money in the world (which they got from us, the long suffering and abused customer). All we have is an itty bitty license and they are scared shitless because regardless of what you think about the personalities of the drafter/s, they saw what was happening and gave us an alternative.
We didn't have to take it but we did and look where it's got us. I have a whale of a time with OSS. I am only limited by my abilities and imagination.
I already make my good living through specialising in OSS and my hope is that we can commoditise (?) the OS and utilities and then we can really start progressing, working on the really tricky problems rather than working out why the OS keeps crashing or doesn't scale.
Enough.
I choose GPL, you choose what you want and we'll see who's laughing in five years time.
I was replying to the comment, not the poster, hence the nesting level.
Understand?
I, like most GPL users, don't evangelise as I don't see the need to. There are enough excellent people working with GPL'd software to not require encouraging selfish assholes to join in.
I do, however, have a problem understanding why people don't seem to make the link between the success of GPL'd software and the terms of said license. It is successful BECAUSE of the license.
I could also rephrase the last part of your statement....
He wants to shaft the OSS community whilst ensuring that no-one can shaft him.
You seem to be looking at it from the wrong angle.
If you don't care about the GPL, don't use GPL'd software. Simple.
The only reason we are having this discussion is because GNU/Linux has become so succesfull BECAUSE no-one has been able to hijack it and close it.
Understand now?
It's not about zealotry, it's about denying greedy, selfish people the ability to build on the shoulders of others without giving anything back.
Go to edit->keyboard shortcuts and tick the "disable menu shortcut key" box. Where's my bounty? Cheers
Using Accentures implementation as an example doesn't say much about DCE/RPCs robustness. It has been plagued by problems as Computer Weekly reports.
Yes you can.
Nope. LVM was done by Sistina, I've been running it on my lightly loaded home server for ~3 years with no major problems. Minor problem with my mp3 collection which is on Reiserfs over LVM which has been extended a couple of times (as you do). Some of the files are corrupted, starts off as Thin Lizzy then jumps to a Cure track and then Dire Straits. I don't know if it was the resize_reiserfs that did it or the lvextend (or my PC objecting to Dire Straits). I have extended another logical volume which is ext3 over LVM without any problems but I don't think you can draw any conclusions from that. Just my .5 Euro worth.
Can you point me in the direction of any decent docs on obtaining/installing/using an msn gateway for jabber. I have had no success.
Please don't point me to jabberstudio, the projects there appear stagnant/unstarted.
Cheers
All very well and good, although after checking out both 3ait and netproject, I can't actually work out what you do!
.5 Euro worth.
I also have some issues with a couple of statements on the netproject site. I know that Bleasdale Computer Systems was the first to build a Unix server in Europe (it's still there under a desk at the former headquarters in Lutterworth, leics) but stating that it is the "longest established Unix systems company in the world" seems a bit strange considering they were bought out by XKO Group a couple of years ago. I also disagree with the statement about the reliability of the Ambulance systems. Yes they were very reliable, but no failures at all?? I know from personal experience that some of the Ambulance services they covered had to "go to paper" on several occasions due to normal hardware failures and some funny SCO problems. OK the one example that springs to mind was last year when the VME backplane failed on the DG Avion system at West Wales Ambulance, no suprise after ~10 years really.
Just my
Are you sure English is your first language? Surfice to say that I garuntee that an email software doesn't contain a spellchecker.