I don't believe Atari or any of the early game systems died soley because of crappy games (though there was more than few).
From my experience, being a kid at the point, I think they failed somewhat because of the limits of the technology and burnout.
They started coming out with other consoles it seemed like every other day. Atari 2600, 5200, 7800, 400, 800, etc.
The improvements weren't big enough to justify the price, you felt like you got suckered in because before you knew it, there was a much better system right down the pike. Imagine having to get a new video player ever few years. I think people would watch a lot less movies.
The games were somewhat limited in play do to the constraints. So you had basically, a handful of styles of play that got old and you have to remember arcades were insanely popular. I remember we had 5 or 6 spring up in my neighborhood. I think people just got bored of it. You had pretty much explored the space as much as you could. There wasn't really anything new.
To be honest, when the more recent consoles started going to the console warpath, I thought it would signal another downturn. Maybe it did a bit until Playstation arrived.
Maybe Moore's Law has saved the situation. Three years is actually represents quite a large jump in technology now.
I don't believe grass has any worse effect than any other freely available substance (cigarettes, alcohol).
God forbid someone smoke a joint to take the edge off. A lot of people on Paxil and similar drugs would probably benefit from a little grass. The difference is that the long-term effects of grass are well understood. Who knows what they'll find out about other antidepressants and anxiety medications in 10 or 20 years, and take about dulling the brain.
Around my way, it seems everyone is on one of them. I'm not talking about people who can't leave their house or want to kill themselves, I'm talking about people lacking a little direction or a tad bit too much angst.
The fact that grass is in the same class as heroin is ridiculous.
I'm going to rant here as this is something that really pisses me off.
When my mother was dying of cancer, they were trying to keep weight on her. Instead of giving her grass which would have some other beneficial effects, they gave her some drug they give to AIDS patients. I can't recall it's name, but I do recall that it was $300USD for a small jug and that the warning on it stated that the method of action was not known and that long term use could cause cancer. What the fuck?
My brother also got cancer around the same time. Diagnosed two weeks apart actually, no family history of it either, just one big kick in the balls from life, but I digress...
My brother was on about as much pain medication as you could be on without it killing you. His cancer was everywhere and I mean everywhere. They misdiagnosed for a long time. They figure it was spreading for at least 5 years.
He had a pump installed under his skin that constantly pumped painkillers into him, plus a heavy regimen of Oxycontin (100+mg) all day long and some other assorted painkillers. For him, the gave him a THC compound to keep his appetite up. It didn't' work.
On the other hand, when he started smoking tons of grass, it helped him tremendously. It helped him keep fighting, made him feel better and helped keep the anxiety at bay.
Horrible enough to be in constant agony, but imagine you're mother going through the same thing, watching her die and seeing your own horrible end.
My point is to anyone who thinks that grass is evil, is that grass isn't anyworse than anything else that's legal . It's almost certainly better than anything manufactured to play with your brain chemistry and it has lot's of positive effects and the fact that it's illegal, particularry for medical use is a friggin crime.
It was around 2000, I had used a PNG for a search label instead of a GIF on a customer site by accident. The only reason it came to light is that anyone on Win NT4 would lock solid. Nothing to do but pull the plug. Took awhile to figure that one out. I was pretty skeptical at first when during testing, complaints of the store freezing computers. Quite a bitch to figure out too as the machine locked hard as soon as a page was loaded.
Thanks for the suggestions. After looking at it (and msg boards for various problems/issues with these cards on linux), I'm going to get the Radeon 9200
I'm using a docking station with an old Dell CPTv Celeron laptop as the base for my car computer that runs Debian Woody. The interface I'm working on runs on PerlSDL
Anyone one to suggest a good PCI linux friendly card for the dock? Tried doing some research but PCI video cards aren't exactly popular anymore. Hard to find any hits that aren't after 02.
So far peformance is ok, but moving up from a 8mb ATI rage mobility seems like a a cheap way to get more performance. Especially for some of the bells and whistles I'd like to implement. (Maybe writing it in something besides Perl might give me some more leeway, but that's not negotiable).
Unfortunately, the biggest scam artists are white collar criminals who do the littlest time. Look at most of the people busted in the WorldCom scandal. Most of them got off with under two years.
Granny getting goat porn is wrong, her retirement (and tens of thousands of others) being wiped out, a thousand times worse.
I'd disagree. I've got some doubts about Perl6. That's for sure. But there are more than a few things out of this that are very practical and useful.
Though I think I would have just preferred if they added continuations and what not, cleaned up the guts some too. Damian had a proposal for this I believe called Perl 5i
I could have sworn I watched a show about this 2 years ago. Saying all the machines in this chain were controlled centrally from a warroom looking place, as well as the odds.
It certainly could be. Good knows enough people can't drive even when concentrating.
The project I'm working on isn't about watching movies. It's a digital dashboard with a rearview cam and realtime diagnostics. Though I'll certainly be playing mp3s in it.
Oh yeah, running Debian Woody. And bluez is kind of a bitch to setup. I'd like some better docs.
Been doing this myself.
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I've been working on this for a couple months now. Though I used a laptop mounted in a docking station bolted to the top of the trunk using a VCR bracket.
Outside of the lilliput 8" touchscreen, most of it has been pretty cheap. The laptop was a Dell CPTv I had. Slow but fast enough. I got a docking station,dvd, dc adapter and some more memory for around $150.
I use a lilliput 8" touchscreen molded into the double din radio slot. Dumped my head unit totally. Put a small Sirius Skymate radio and embedded it into the dash. The Starmate goes to the laptop which goes to the amp.
I found some Hitachi Endurastar automotive 2.5 HDD s on ebay for about $60 shipped a piece. Good deal. A little slow but I got them working at zero degrees.
For input eventually I'll finish my indash keyboard, (A hacked up Traveler PS3100), but now I'm using a Dreamgear mini usb keyboard made for the PS2. I hacked off the cord and replaced it with a retractable usb cord.
Mostly everything has been pretty easy as far as setting things up, but bluetooth connectivity with a sprint phone has been problematic. As this is my first linux install on the laptop, (and more multimedia than I've set up in the past), I was suprised how easy it's been going.
I wear a seat belt without fail (since some dolt hit me while trying to pass me on the left, while I was in the left lane, making a left turn. sigh.)
I make everyone riding with me wear one too, no matter how much they bitch.
But I also believe that an adult should be able to make the decision for himself. I don't think you should be able to pull someone over for an adult not wearing one.
The only incident I can recall of where someone would have died wearing one, was a long time ago, I believe it was a runaway steam roller (might have been some other heavy equipment, but pretty sure it was a roller). The guy managed to jump out but wouldn't have had time if he was buckled up.
Wasn't sure if that's what you meant, so ya, same page.
It's not like you couldn't sleep with them already, or kill them. Yeah you can slit her throat in a detailed manner with gurgling sounds, but humping while wearing clothes and "the sky is falling!"
I agree it's not a game for kids, but it's rated M. For 17+
Since when is 17 a kid? In a couple months, they can vote, marry, serve in the military, smoke, buy guns and fuck legally. Like they not doing the latter already.
A publicity stunt? Come on. The game came out in what, December? Little late for trying to drum up business.
The fact is that "hot coffee" doesn't change the tone of the game much at all. It's not the Disney's "The Rescuers" with tits slipped in the background.
It was stupid of them to leave it in, but they probably figured on the consoles, you'd never be able to get at it.
Well if it does, it's news to me and the development community at the time anyway. Always was listed as a piezo buzzer IIRC.
The battery is pretty bad if it's something you want to take with you and use a lot, which is the point. I guess I could charge it every few hour, but for my purposes, that defeats the point.
I wasn't doing anything wrong. Perhaps newer roms are better. I only had apache, ssl, perl and a find tool. Oh yeah, GL DOOM. I also played an MP3 on it once. All told, I probably used it for 10 hours. Probably spent 20 hours, frigging with it.
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I don't believe Atari or any of the early game systems died soley because of crappy games (though there was more than few).
From my experience, being a kid at the point, I think they failed somewhat because of the limits of the technology and burnout.
They started coming out with other consoles it seemed like every other day. Atari 2600, 5200, 7800, 400, 800, etc.
The improvements weren't big enough to justify the price, you felt like you got suckered in because before you knew it, there was a much better system right down the pike. Imagine having to get a new video player ever few years. I think people would watch a lot less movies.
The games were somewhat limited in play do to the constraints. So you had basically, a handful of styles of play that got old and you have to remember arcades were insanely popular. I remember we had 5 or 6 spring up in my neighborhood. I think people just got bored of it. You had pretty much explored the space as much as you could. There wasn't really anything new.
To be honest, when the more recent consoles started going to the console warpath, I thought it would signal another downturn. Maybe it did a bit until Playstation arrived.
Maybe Moore's Law has saved the situation. Three years is actually represents quite a large jump in technology now.
I don't believe grass has any worse effect than any other freely available substance (cigarettes, alcohol).
God forbid someone smoke a joint to take the edge off. A lot of people on Paxil and similar drugs would probably benefit from a little grass. The difference is that the long-term effects of grass are well understood. Who knows what they'll find out about other antidepressants and anxiety medications in 10 or 20 years, and take about dulling the brain.
Around my way, it seems everyone is on one of them. I'm not talking about people who can't leave their house or want to kill themselves, I'm talking about people lacking a little direction or a tad bit too much angst.
The fact that grass is in the same class as heroin is ridiculous.
I'm going to rant here as this is something that really pisses me off.
When my mother was dying of cancer, they were trying to keep weight on her. Instead of giving her grass which would have some other beneficial effects, they gave her some drug they give to AIDS patients. I can't recall it's name, but I do recall that it was $300USD for a small jug and that the warning on it stated that the method of action was not known and that long term use could cause cancer. What the fuck?
My brother also got cancer around the same time. Diagnosed two weeks apart actually, no family history of it either, just one big kick in the balls from life, but I digress...
My brother was on about as much pain medication as you could be on without it killing you. His cancer was everywhere and I mean everywhere. They misdiagnosed for a long time. They figure it was spreading for at least 5 years.
He had a pump installed under his skin that constantly pumped painkillers into him, plus a heavy regimen of Oxycontin (100+mg) all day long and some other assorted painkillers. For him, the gave him a THC compound to keep his appetite up. It didn't' work.
On the other hand, when he started smoking tons of grass, it helped him tremendously. It helped him keep fighting, made him feel better and helped keep the anxiety at bay.
Horrible enough to be in constant agony, but imagine you're mother going through the same thing, watching her die and seeing your own horrible end.
My point is to anyone who thinks that grass is evil, is that grass isn't anyworse than anything else that's legal . It's almost certainly better than anything manufactured to play with your brain chemistry and it has lot's of positive effects and the fact that it's illegal, particularry for medical use is a friggin crime.
Kind of off topic but...
It was around 2000, I had used a PNG for a search label instead of a GIF on a customer site by accident. The only reason it came to light is that anyone on Win NT4 would lock solid. Nothing to do but pull the plug. Took awhile to figure that one out. I was pretty skeptical at first when during testing, complaints of the store freezing computers. Quite a bitch to figure out too as the machine locked hard as soon as a page was loaded.
Imagine how much more likely you'd be to take risks if you could grow new body parts :)
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I think this is one of the coolest things I've ever read on
Thanks for the suggestions. After looking at it (and msg boards for various problems/issues with these cards on linux), I'm going to get the Radeon 9200
Thanks.
I'm using a docking station with an old Dell CPTv Celeron laptop as the base for my car computer that runs Debian Woody. The interface I'm working on runs on PerlSDL
Anyone one to suggest a good PCI linux friendly card for the dock? Tried doing some research but PCI video cards aren't exactly popular anymore. Hard to find any hits that aren't after 02.
So far peformance is ok, but moving up from a 8mb ATI rage mobility seems like a a cheap way to get more performance. Especially for some of the bells and whistles I'd like to implement. (Maybe writing it in something besides Perl might give me some more leeway, but that's not negotiable).
Any suggestions?
Unfortunately, the biggest scam artists are white collar criminals who do the littlest time. Look at most of the people busted in the WorldCom scandal. Most of them got off with under two years.
Granny getting goat porn is wrong, her retirement (and tens of thousands of others) being wiped out, a thousand times worse.
Not saying this guy shouldn't do time though.
I'd disagree. I've got some doubts about Perl6. That's for sure. But there are more than a few things out of this that are very practical and useful.
Though I think I would have just preferred if they added continuations and what not, cleaned up the guts some too. Damian had a proposal for this I believe called Perl 5i
Thanks. If I get most of what I want done, it should be pretty damn cool.
I could have sworn I watched a show about this 2 years ago. Saying all the machines in this chain were controlled centrally from a warroom looking place, as well as the odds.
Done. Look at the reply to the post you replied to :|
my blog at dashboardmonkey
and this thread here
That's what I was thinking.
It certainly could be. Good knows enough people can't drive even when concentrating.
The project I'm working on isn't about watching movies. It's a digital dashboard with a rearview cam and realtime diagnostics. Though I'll certainly be playing mp3s in it.
Yeah I do. Though I'm afraid to post em here :)
Lot's of large pics. Never thought to look, is there some sort of pm function here?
Oh yeah, running Debian Woody. And bluez is kind of a bitch to setup. I'd like some better docs.
I've been working on this for a couple months now. Though I used a laptop mounted in a docking station bolted to the top of the trunk using a VCR bracket.
Outside of the lilliput 8" touchscreen, most of it has been pretty cheap. The laptop was a Dell CPTv I had. Slow but fast enough. I got a docking station,dvd, dc adapter and some more memory for around $150.
I use a lilliput 8" touchscreen molded into the double din radio slot. Dumped my head unit totally. Put a small Sirius Skymate radio and embedded it into the dash. The Starmate goes to the laptop which goes to the amp.
I found some Hitachi Endurastar automotive 2.5 HDD s on ebay for about $60 shipped a piece. Good deal. A little slow but I got them working at zero degrees.
For input eventually I'll finish my indash keyboard, (A hacked up Traveler PS3100), but now I'm using a Dreamgear mini usb keyboard made for the PS2. I hacked off the cord and replaced it with a retractable usb cord.
Mostly everything has been pretty easy as far as setting things up, but bluetooth connectivity with a sprint phone has been problematic. As this is my first linux install on the laptop, (and more multimedia than I've set up in the past), I was suprised how easy it's been going.
I wear a seat belt without fail (since some dolt hit me while trying to pass me on the left, while I was in the left lane, making a left turn. sigh.)
I make everyone riding with me wear one too, no matter how much they bitch.
But I also believe that an adult should be able to make the decision for himself. I don't think you should be able to pull someone over for an adult not wearing one.
The only incident I can recall of where someone would have died wearing one, was a long time ago, I believe it was a runaway steam roller (might have been some other heavy equipment, but pretty sure it was a roller). The guy managed to jump out but wouldn't have had time if he was buckled up.
That's not an excuse, that's an anecdote.
That's why I left it out of the list.
Though that always bugged me. That's the pinacle of maturity? You can trust someone to fly a Chinook but not drink a Bud?
Wasn't sure if that's what you meant, so ya, same page.
It's not like you couldn't sleep with them already, or kill them. Yeah you can slit her throat in a detailed manner with gurgling sounds, but humping while wearing clothes and "the sky is falling!"
I agree it's not a game for kids, but it's rated M. For 17+
Since when is 17 a kid? In a couple months, they can vote, marry, serve in the military, smoke, buy guns and fuck legally. Like they not doing the latter already.
The last few years for myself have been a pulverizer. Couple deaths in the immediate family, illnesses and many other stresses. Feels like Job.
I own two games for PS2. GTA: Vice City & San Andreas. If I didn't have that to direct some of that rage, I would have exploded. Real violence.
Whenever I feel like I'm going to snap, I go take it out on the ("virtual") world.
Healthy? Maybe, maybe not, but no worse than chemically numbing things.
A publicity stunt? Come on. The game came out in what, December? Little late for trying to drum up business.
The fact is that "hot coffee" doesn't change the tone of the game much at all. It's not the Disney's "The Rescuers" with tits slipped in the background.
It was stupid of them to leave it in, but they probably figured on the consoles, you'd never be able to get at it.
Like I said, probably an early rom issue. Maybe it's the version fo QTopia.
3 .6.1p1_arm.tar.gzc he-1.3.19-php-4.0.5_0.1_arm.pki pkr minal_1.5.0-2_arm.ipk
I never got around to screwing with it enough to do anything that "should" have crashed it. The few packages I did install were meant for the SL-5500.
I found the folder containing the packages I had (as I had to keep reinstalling them)
locate.1.1.gz
iptables_1.2.8_arm.ipk
openssh-
processmanager_1.1.arm.pk
apa
perl_5.6.1-7_arm.
pico
libSDL- 1.2.5 packages
qpe-filemanager_1.5.0-1_arm.ipk
qpe-te
and
PRBOOM
Not exactly pushing the envelope.
Well if it does, it's news to me and the development community at the time anyway. Always was listed as a piezo buzzer IIRC.
The battery is pretty bad if it's something you want to take with you and use a lot, which is the point. I guess I could charge it every few hour, but for my purposes, that defeats the point.
I wasn't doing anything wrong. Perhaps newer roms are better. I only had apache, ssl, perl and a find tool. Oh yeah, GL DOOM. I also played an MP3 on it once. All told, I probably used it for 10 hours. Probably spent 20 hours, frigging with it.
YMMV