The Putinbots and the quislings will keep peddling all these old, tired bullshit Putinist talking points ("there is no proof", we are not enemies with Russia, we should cooperate ('i.e. bend over for the Putinist).
These bastards will KEEP doing it right up to a few seconds before the conflict turns kinetic.
Proof exists. It's however highly classified. The classified case against Trump and his entourage for many, many serious crimes, is airtight. Now we're basically playing the waiting for an unclassified case to be built.
You are probably a Russian sympathiser or a Putinbot, since "there is no proof" is a very common Putinbot talking-point.
The full story about Joe McCarthy is classified, but I've seen speculation that Joe McCarthy was a Soviet asset, who persecuted Americans in order to create the notion of "McCarthyism" -- which makes it harder to challenge Russian malfeasance in the public sphere.
America, and Putin's Russia have NOTHING in common.
The West and Russia are strategic competitors. Cooperation to these Tartar/Mongolian scum, is a sign of weakness. We should not cooperate with barbarians. We contain them.
It wouldn't be the first time those fucking barbarians have broken a serious promise. They REALLY screwed the pooch by stabbing Ukraine in the back wrt their nuclear arsenal -- they've just taught the world that if you're stupid enough to give up your nukes, you're going to get fucked over by your neighbours.
The "MIC needs a reason to exist" mythology is an old Cold War lie that the Soviets peddled to attack one of the West's key strengths: its defence industry. One of a myriad of lies the Kremlin and its fellow-travellers peddle constantly, in order to weaken and undermine us.
We know why this crisis is happening. It's because Chekists define themselves as opposition to the West in general, and America in particular. They create the mythical straw-man as Russia as pure and noble and the West as decadent and evil, and they, of course, are "indispensible" as its self-appointed guardians. So rather than being content to serve their country as Western spooks do, they see themselves as the rulers... and naturally, this comes with a massive sense of material entitlement, so they are at the same time, the most greedy thieves in the world.
Yevgeny Kaspersky is a Chekist. OF FUCKING COURSE he's thick with the Kremlin. As Vova himself says, "there are no former Chekists".
Thieving Chekist fascist scum like Putin need a reason to exist. It explains the irrational, mindless aggression of the Russian side, and why they'll continue to test limts: as barbarians, they only respect force, but despise weakness. They know they've been at war with us; we've only just woken up.
The people getting ready to clean up this mess are very carefully getting their ducks in a row, because they really don't want to miss. That will take some time.
This is not a question of domestic partisanship. Evidence of covert, underhanded Russian influence and interference in Western countries, especially in the last few years, is everywhere to be seen.
I'm sure our Russian "partners" would _love_ to destroy all notion of objective truth and turn everything into a partisan pissing match where there IS no absolute truth (only political priorities). Unhappily for them, the West has rightly seen it for what it is: broad-spectrum political and information war against all advanced and free countries, designed to poison the well for all political thought -- and the Cold War anti-disinformation playbook is being dusted off. Enemy political and information attacks won't work, and in the long run, it will end very badly for them.
Everyone -- note that this article is being spammed hard by "Anonymous Cowards" sprouting pro-Putin and pro-Trump talking points.
Adjust your skepticism accordingly. They're rattled -- there's been a strong uptick in Putinbot activity in the last few days, which makes me wonder if pro-Western forces are getting closer to the truth on Kremlingate.
In the absence of Slashdot waking up to themselves and getting rid of "Anonymous Coward", you'll have to wade through a lot of Putinbot spam in the meantime.
We are wise to Russia's lies and divide-and-conquer tactics and sleaze. We are sick of being attacked and undermined by the kleptofascists, and we will not stand for it.
You're a fucking idiot. Russia is being run by an unreconstructed fascist hell bent on writing himself into the history books, damn the consequences to the world or Russia itself.
Let's put it this way: how do you think the world would feel, if the Germans celebrated an annual holiday for the SS and Gestapo, as Russia celebrates the crimes of the Cheka, NKVD and KGB each year??
Russia, as of 2017, is a menace to the free world.
If you Russians are so fucking wonderful, why is your economy smaller than Italy's?
That's right -- your country is so unreformably shit and backwards, that you've given up, and now, in a fit of racist anti-Western rage, you have to tear us down to make your rotten system look better than yours.
Well -- newsflash -- we're onto your hacking and subversion and your political games. You won't win. The West will smack you down, again and again, until you learn your lesson, and join the civilized world. If that takes large-scale war, then so be it. We defeated Hitler, we'll defeat Putin too.
We didn't promise you jack shit. Nothing was written.
Countries near Russia joined NATO and the West because they were sick of Russia's imperialism, exploitation and corruption.
The "encirclement" narrative is bullshit. When WW3 starts, it's not coming from Poland, it's coming at you at Mach 20 over the North Pole, or over the Internet. 2D maps and bullshit Russian lies about being "encircled" make no sense when the battlefield is 3D, in outer space, information, cyber etc.
Russia likes to pretend it's a great power, equal to the United States. It's actually a corrupt, hollow shell of a country with an economy smaller than Italy's. Putin's vain, arrogant demand that Russia be treated as an "equal" to the United States is riscible garbage, which is rightly regarded with distain and ridicule in Western policy circles.
The West wouldn't be "containing" Russia if they didn't think that Russian revanishism and imperialism weren't a threat. Russia started this, the West will finish it. Again.
Nobody really believes that riscible Russian bullshit.
Yanukovic was about to sign an EU association agreement. Putin had an autistic freakout and decided to go full on the attack against the EU, and threatened Yanukovic to drop the association agreement. THAT was what prompted the street-level explosion -- the people wanted European norms, not Russian-style lawnessness and corruption.
Putin LOATHES the EU, because it's a threat of a good example. It's the dream of something better than squalid corruption and legal nihilism. That's why according to Putin, the EU has to die, and why human shit like Le Pen and Farage, who'll sell out to the highest bidder, also hate the EU; because they're paid by Russia to sabotage it.
Because _they_ understand what information warfare is, and have done so for years?
The West is only now starting to wake up -- because the _Russians_ have just taught us how devastatingly effective a tool it is for convincing populations to act against their own interests. The Russians had a BIG hand in Brexit.. tools of mass propaganda and influence are devastating in the wrong hands.
We need to defend ourselves. We cannot let our open societies by attacked and subverted by corrupt dictators like Putin's Russia. It's increasingly clear that we need to defend ourselves in the information realm.
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The Putinbots and the quislings will keep peddling all these old, tired bullshit Putinist talking points ("there is no proof", we are not enemies with Russia, we should cooperate ('i.e. bend over for the Putinist).
These bastards will KEEP doing it right up to a few seconds before the conflict turns kinetic.
Proof exists. It's however highly classified. The classified case against Trump and his entourage for many, many serious crimes, is airtight. Now we're basically playing the waiting for an unclassified case to be built.
You are probably a Russian sympathiser or a Putinbot, since "there is no proof" is a very common Putinbot talking-point.
Well, it turns out the Russians are our enemies right now. Didn't you get the memo?
Yep!!
The full story about Joe McCarthy is classified, but I've seen speculation that Joe McCarthy was a Soviet asset, who persecuted Americans in order to create the notion of "McCarthyism" -- which makes it harder to challenge Russian malfeasance in the public sphere.
Cooperation is a waste of time, when our "partners" are barbarians, who take any form of cooperation and kindness as weakness.
Chekist talking point. Boring and stupid.
America, and Putin's Russia have NOTHING in common.
The West and Russia are strategic competitors. Cooperation to these Tartar/Mongolian scum, is a sign of weakness. We should not cooperate with barbarians. We contain them.
It wouldn't be the first time those fucking barbarians have broken a serious promise. They REALLY screwed the pooch by stabbing Ukraine in the back wrt their nuclear arsenal -- they've just taught the world that if you're stupid enough to give up your nukes, you're going to get fucked over by your neighbours.
The "MIC needs a reason to exist" mythology is an old Cold War lie that the Soviets peddled to attack one of the West's key strengths: its defence industry. One of a myriad of lies the Kremlin and its fellow-travellers peddle constantly, in order to weaken and undermine us.
We know why this crisis is happening. It's because Chekists define themselves as opposition to the West in general, and America in particular. They create the mythical straw-man as Russia as pure and noble and the West as decadent and evil, and they, of course, are "indispensible" as its self-appointed guardians. So rather than being content to serve their country as Western spooks do, they see themselves as the rulers... and naturally, this comes with a massive sense of material entitlement, so they are at the same time, the most greedy thieves in the world.
Yevgeny Kaspersky is a Chekist. OF FUCKING COURSE he's thick with the Kremlin. As Vova himself says, "there are no former Chekists".
Thieving Chekist fascist scum like Putin need a reason to exist. It explains the irrational, mindless aggression of the Russian side, and why they'll continue to test limts: as barbarians, they only respect force, but despise weakness. They know they've been at war with us; we've only just woken up.
That's because of one very important fact:
"You come at the king, you better not miss."
The people getting ready to clean up this mess are very carefully getting their ducks in a row, because they really don't want to miss. That will take some time.
This is not a question of domestic partisanship. Evidence of covert, underhanded Russian influence and interference in Western countries, especially in the last few years, is everywhere to be seen.
I'm sure our Russian "partners" would _love_ to destroy all notion of objective truth and turn everything into a partisan pissing match where there IS no absolute truth (only political priorities). Unhappily for them, the West has rightly seen it for what it is: broad-spectrum political and information war against all advanced and free countries, designed to poison the well for all political thought -- and the Cold War anti-disinformation playbook is being dusted off. Enemy political and information attacks won't work, and in the long run, it will end very badly for them.
Putinbots pissing on our legs, then telling us it's raining.
You're projecting.
Post thoughtful thoughts and arguments, and you shouldn't get voted down by the majority of fair-minded people.
Post enemy propaganda OTOH...
Everyone -- note that this article is being spammed hard by "Anonymous Cowards" sprouting pro-Putin and pro-Trump talking points.
Adjust your skepticism accordingly. They're rattled -- there's been a strong uptick in Putinbot activity in the last few days, which makes me wonder if pro-Western forces are getting closer to the truth on Kremlingate.
In the absence of Slashdot waking up to themselves and getting rid of "Anonymous Coward", you'll have to wade through a lot of Putinbot spam in the meantime.
Putinbot ahoy.
For the record, folks, the Russians are *not* our friends. They started this war, we will finish it.
What colours is the sky on your planet?
Trump and his entourage is going to get cut to pieces. He is dead meat.
When we are done with Trump Inc, we're coming after the Putin regime.
I'd stop digging that hole if I were you.
Right. Using communication operated by the Russian SVR. That isn't normal, that's TREASON.
That kind of thing, in a time of war, would get you put up against a wall and shot.
Don't be stupid. This is NOT "normal".
Cute. The Putinbot came up with an original line.
Did they raise your borscht ration today?
Laughable Putinbot talking points.
"Russia is our friend". Putinbot bullshit.
Obama sledg. Putinbot bullshit.
"Russophobia" "scary Russians". Putinbot bullshit.
(Childish reference to Nineteen Eighty Four). Putinbot BULLSHIT.
We are wise to Putinbot shill bullshit.
We are wise to Russia's lies and divide-and-conquer tactics and sleaze. We are sick of being attacked and undermined by the kleptofascists, and we will not stand for it.
Go away, troll.
There's this thing called ITAR, you might have heard of it.... Don't play dumb.
You're a fucking idiot. Russia is being run by an unreconstructed fascist hell bent on writing himself into the history books, damn the consequences to the world or Russia itself.
Let's put it this way: how do you think the world would feel, if the Germans celebrated an annual holiday for the SS and Gestapo, as Russia celebrates the crimes of the Cheka, NKVD and KGB each year??
Russia, as of 2017, is a menace to the free world.
You got me at "Ukrainian democracy", lol.
If you Russians are so fucking wonderful, why is your economy smaller than Italy's?
That's right -- your country is so unreformably shit and backwards, that you've given up, and now, in a fit of racist anti-Western rage, you have to tear us down to make your rotten system look better than yours.
Well -- newsflash -- we're onto your hacking and subversion and your political games. You won't win. The West will smack you down, again and again, until you learn your lesson, and join the civilized world. If that takes large-scale war, then so be it. We defeated Hitler, we'll defeat Putin too.
We didn't promise you jack shit. Nothing was written.
Countries near Russia joined NATO and the West because they were sick of Russia's imperialism, exploitation and corruption.
The "encirclement" narrative is bullshit. When WW3 starts, it's not coming from Poland, it's coming at you at Mach 20 over the North Pole, or over the Internet. 2D maps and bullshit Russian lies about being "encircled" make no sense when the battlefield is 3D, in outer space, information, cyber etc.
Russia likes to pretend it's a great power, equal to the United States. It's actually a corrupt, hollow shell of a country with an economy smaller than Italy's. Putin's vain, arrogant demand that Russia be treated as an "equal" to the United States is riscible garbage, which is rightly regarded with distain and ridicule in Western policy circles.
The West wouldn't be "containing" Russia if they didn't think that Russian revanishism and imperialism weren't a threat. Russia started this, the West will finish it. Again.
Nobody really believes that riscible Russian bullshit.
Yanukovic was about to sign an EU association agreement. Putin had an autistic freakout and decided to go full on the attack against the EU, and threatened Yanukovic to drop the association agreement. THAT was what prompted the street-level explosion -- the people wanted European norms, not Russian-style lawnessness and corruption.
Putin LOATHES the EU, because it's a threat of a good example. It's the dream of something better than squalid corruption and legal nihilism. That's why according to Putin, the EU has to die, and why human shit like Le Pen and Farage, who'll sell out to the highest bidder, also hate the EU; because they're paid by Russia to sabotage it.
Because _they_ understand what information warfare is, and have done so for years?
The West is only now starting to wake up -- because the _Russians_ have just taught us how devastatingly effective a tool it is for convincing populations to act against their own interests. The Russians had a BIG hand in Brexit.. tools of mass propaganda and influence are devastating in the wrong hands.
We need to defend ourselves. We cannot let our open societies by attacked and subverted by corrupt dictators like Putin's Russia. It's increasingly clear that we need to defend ourselves in the information realm.