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Hackers Have Targeted Both the Trump Organization And Democrat Election Data (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader writes: Two recent news stories give new prominence to politically-motivated data breaches. Friday the Wall Street Journal reported that last year Guccifer 2.0 sent 2.5 gigabytes of Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee election data to a Republican operative in Florida, including their critical voter turnout projections. At the same time ABC News is reporting that the FBI is investigating "an attempted overseas cyberattack against the Trump Organization," adding that such an attack would make his network a high priority for government monitoring.
"In the course of its investigation," they add, "the FBI could get access to the Trump Organization's computer network, meaning FBI agents could possibly find records connected to other investigations." A senior FBI official (now retired) concedes to ABC that "There could be stuff in there that they [the Trump organization] do not want to become part of a separate criminal investigation."
It seems like everyone's talking about the privacy of their communications. Tonight the Washington Post writes that Trump's son-in-law/senior advisor Jared Kushner "discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump's transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, according to U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports." And Friday Hillary Clinton was even quoted as saying, "I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians..."
"In the course of its investigation," they add, "the FBI could get access to the Trump Organization's computer network, meaning FBI agents could possibly find records connected to other investigations." A senior FBI official (now retired) concedes to ABC that "There could be stuff in there that they [the Trump organization] do not want to become part of a separate criminal investigation."
It seems like everyone's talking about the privacy of their communications. Tonight the Washington Post writes that Trump's son-in-law/senior advisor Jared Kushner "discussed the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump's transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities in an apparent move to shield their pre-inauguration discussions from monitoring, according to U.S. officials briefed on intelligence reports." And Friday Hillary Clinton was even quoted as saying, "I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians..."
DOUBLE SIGH
So I was right that Donald Trump, Jared Kushners, and others are traitors who colluded with Russia's hack of our presidential campaign.
Will any of you dumbfucks apologize, or are you just going to keep pretending you don't notice the obvious treason taking place in front of your eyes?
I accept your apology, morons.
If we'd have done the right thing, and voted Regressive, we wouldn't be having these kinds of issues.
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Privacy is a good thing for citizens, but for democratic governments, I believe it is a loophole for special interests to act. Unfortunately, nobody cares about the Democrats when they use their privacy to be nefarious. Only the privacy of the Republicans seems to offend people online.
So did Kushner get the back channel he asked for? i.e. Does Trump have a Russian provided secure channel outside of US record keeping laws and beyond Congretional and Senate oversight?
Because when Trump got hold of the unredacted pee memos, shortly afterwards two likely USA agents were arrested in Russia and charged with treason.
How exactly did the Russians suddenly get the names of US agents in Russia?
Well a secure backchannel from Trump to Putin, provided by the Russians would provide such a channel.
Motive? Yep. Means? Yep. Opportunity? Yep.
"Could be."
This is just more speculation trumped up as news by Journalists working with the NeverTrumpers who are desperately trying a coup against our country.
As such, it should be ignored and mocked for the idiotic conspiracy theories that they are. If they had evidence, they wouldn't be saying how there "could be" "might be" "they have a hunch..." "People say" or "Anonymous sources claim to have had parts of a memo read to them by a friend..."
Trump is the president for at least the next 4 and likely the next 8 years. His decisions will change the course of the country for the next 20-30 years. And no amount of unhinged conspiracy theories will change that.
Don't like that? Blame the DNC. Hillary wasn't electable and everyone knew it except her Globalist friends.
Clinton just called Stein and Johnson "the crazy third-party people".
Every day she still cannot believe her loss. Even today, Trump is the best of the two despite that he sucks badly. After all, the democrats are now calling for racial segregation in some schools. So, it's better that the dims stay out of any office since their progress is just regression.
...is coming. There is no question in anyone's mind. The wheels are already in motion. 18 USC 1505 is a big deal when you do it to the FBI and then rub it in their face. The question is npw to the GOP: how much more of your political capital are you willing to burn to prop up this elderly trust fund kid?
Someone explain to me exactly who did what to whom in the finest detail available, without using "hack", "hacker", or "hacking".
You can't, can you?
Because that would reveal that we don't know enough to say anything of substance, so we go running around pointing fingers without knowing what we're talking about. Good show, people.
The presidency is a job, not a prize. As long as the looters and scavengers are the ones remaining in the race, a lacklustre voter turnout is not all that surprising.
I see nothing wrong as Hillary is more of a threat to this country than Russia will ever be.
Maybe if Hillary weren't so crooked there would have been nothing to hide. Stop blaming Russia for your flawed candidate and party and take some responsibility?
I'm with you on Hillary on this one, but you do realize that she would have revealed her tax returns, just like all the presidents before... Those who don't automatically get extra suspicion thrown on then regardless who they are.
Take your delusional nutjobbery and fuck off asshole.
Nobody fucking cares about your lies.
The problem with all this is Trump just is not working for the Russians or a Russian agenda in fact he does not work like that a blind man can see that!
To be honest this whole Russia story is going to fall apart and be shown to be another load of crap. To be honest the media has gone crazy in their attempt to prove and discredit Trump in all sorts of ways, so much so that I cannot watch any of it. In fact when Trump bombed Syria the Russian connection was a dead duck, he would not have done that if he was aligned with Russia. It would be nice to not have any Russian stories for about 1 year to make up for all this crap.
Trump is showing himself to be the first actually pro-American leader in many years and so if that is what Russia wanted then they got it but they are just meddling in all sorts of stuff because they are a mess. Trump has done nothing to help the Russians and nor will he.
When all the whining and complaining is finished the budget is the first time anyone has actually faced up to the main financial problem in the US which is overspending. (Lots of people will say but I wanted some more money boo hoo.)
Russia is no friend to Trump and his administration. They only care about exploiting the Trump administration to achieve their goals. Governor Romney was right in 2012 when he said Russia was the biggest geopolitical threat to the United States. The left was wrong to laugh at him, but the right is even dumber to ignore Romney's warning now that evidence shows he was right.
The problem is that the right seems to have taken a favorable view of Russia now. Perhaps it's because the right wing "Christians" love that Putin has cracked down on homosexuality in Russia. I kid you not, I've heard Christians praise Putin for this. Russia was all too happy to look the other way as gays were rounded up and tortured in Chechnya. All too many Christians objected to Trump during the primaries and were all too happy to fall in line and vote for him once he got the nomination, all because the Republican party platform claims to be pro-life. Never mind, of course, all the other evils that Trump supports, and the fact that the Republicans will never ban abortion because it would take away the one reason people vote for them. If there is a God, a lot of Christians will be burning in hell for what they've supported in the name of Jesus.
Putin cannot be trusted. He is no friend to democracy and free society, nor will he ever be. Putin is an evil man, but the right wingers seem to have developed a love for him. They're too stupid to realize that, despite helping to get Trump elected, that love is not mutual and Putin is only interested in exploiting far right political leaders for his own benefit.
While the republithug gangsters are a legitimate military target, sabotaging the Progressive Movement is a crime against humanity. It's time to outlaw hacking and lock down the internet. #iamwithher
You bitch would have never won at all. So you wanna stay in your own little fantasy world miss killary.
It's not anonymous sources.
The FBI confirmed the Russian hack of Floridas election data back in last year. They also said Republicans had been hacked, but the data was not released.
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-james-comey-russian-hacking-russia-election-2016-republicans-541276
Roger Stones coordination with Guccifer was defended by Stone himself on various Russia Today news programs, e.g. :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjMUyPwe38E
The initial leak about Jared smuggling the Russian Ambassador into Trump tower, then the head of Russias VEB bank was from anonymous sources, but the meeting was confirmed by Sean Spicer of the Whitehouse.
Sergey Gorkov's of the Putin linked spy bank VEB, (under sanctions after being caught running a Russian spy ring in its New York branch), said the meeting was a property business loan and totally normal, Jared via Sean Spicer claimed it was to open a dialog to Putin and totally normal.
i.e. the meeting was confirmed by Jared and VEB and both accounts did not match up.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/27/politics/kushner-meeting-russian-banker-tied-to-putin/index.html
You actually have to have been born, summoned from the Netherhells doesn't count.
Guccifer 2.0 was created by the DNC to cover up the murder of a whistle blower. Donna Brazile was put in charge of the DNC to run the cover up. She also controlled D.C. so that the murder investigation could be stopped. By presenting the leak as a hack, Obama could unmask the Trump campaign and leak their private communications by disseminating national security information to political appointees.
See this for details about the "Guccifer 2.0" "hack":
https://archive.is/oypFz
I've read an interesting opinion piece by a Russian opponent: http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/03/06/trump-russia-conspiracy-trap/.
Basically, the messages are: first, yes, Russia has meddled in, and there are links between them and Trump. But it's nothing new, Russia's always tried to destabilize Western democracies and undermine their credibility, including by supporting political crackpots there. This time the crackpots won the election.
Second, the media frenzy about this is being played up because it's seemingly the only scandal that riles people enough that the Republican majority in Congress might have to take notice, instead of looking the other way as they did with all the other documented lies. So Trump opponents are playing this specific card.
But, third, there's probably nothing concrete enough there to warrant a successful impeachment. And this is beginning to border on speculation and conspiracy-theory thinking, in other words using some of Trump's foul tactics against him in the unlikely hope of getting rid of him. Bad precedent.
So, fourth, not only it won't work, it's drowning out more urgent and serious issues: dismantling healthcare, crippling budget cuts everywhere but in the military, hurting government agencies. If more attention was focused on them instead, sure, it would be even less likely to cause Trump's demise, but it would mitigate the damage, as it did for the Muslim travel ban.
HRC would have won the election if she weren't HRC. Truth.
What is the point of releasing her personal tax returns when her foundation has all of the sketchy stuff?
As a politician, she knew that was coming and of course all would have been fine. So what.
Trump was inaugurated 20th January, he asked for the unredacted memo almost immediately, the spies were arrested on the 26th January.
One is FSB, one is ex FSB, and they fit the profile of two spies in the pee memo that confirmed/leaked the Putin plan the previous year.
I claim your computer was hacked by the Ruskies. Therefore I need you to turn over all of your personal data and communications so I can comb through it to confirm my allegation. Of course, the watchers who will be reviewing your files are trustworthy citizens, with no political biases, and will certainly never leak any information they find during the course of this investigation. If you don't, then you are obstructing a hacking investigation or you must be hiding something. We are just here to help.
The idea that there is this secret stash of documents that is finally going to reveal Trump's secret identity as Dr. Evil and is going to doom his presidency is wishful thinking. Trump's computers and people around Trump were under surveillance for months under the Obama administration, and Trump has many people in his administration, among Republicans, and in his organization who hate him; if there had been anything substantive, it would have come out by now, either in leaks or in official investigations.
The arrests were 6 days after he became President, so this is a misdirection. Trump had access to the memo, he had asked for the unredacted memo almost as soon as he took office.
Also, most damning of all is the Russian inadvertant confirmation of the reason for their arrest:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/world/europe/russia-hacking-us-election.html?_r=0
"Russian media reports link the charges to the disclosure of the Russian role in attacking state election boards, including the scanning of voter rolls in Arizona and Illinois..."
Now here's the odd thing, Russia media is trying to pin hacking of US elections systems THAT RUSSIA DENIES WAS RUSSIAN, on the people it arrested. Which pretty much confirms the false nature of the claim.
"But one current and one former United States official, speaking about the classified recruitments on condition of anonymity, confirmed that human sources in Russia did play a crucial role in proving who was responsible for the hacking."
They fit the profile of Russians who leaked Putin's election attack on America to the CIA, and that is consistent with the New York Times security source's claim.
If Jared asked for a secure hidden channel to Putin, then he would have received it. That channel could have been used to hand that information over.
It explains a lot.
How could our POTUS have thought that firing Comey (well-liked in the FBI) would not create an unofficial underground covert rebellion by spook agencies trying to smear him? (In the bigger picture, a rather scary threat to democracy, and the rule of law, despite the easy target...)
Our POTUS's love for Russia was no doubt born as a business deal - Exxon-Mobil wanted the Obama Crimea sanctions blocking Exxon-Mobil from their lucrative Russian OIl deal lifted. (Need I point to our Secretary of State, Tillison?) Only extreme Dunning-Kruger could have thought that they could ride the tiger (bear) without ending up inside.
Because no-one has mentioned it yet.
It's certainly the spin they're putting on it, *but* this Russian provided secure channel was not disclosed to Congress, was not within the Whitehouse record keeping system, and thus outside of Congretional oversight.
You don't get Presidents working with foreign powers to bypass their own checks and balances, such a thing is NOT routine. It's NOT normal.
"In addition to their discussion about setting up the communications channel, Kushner, Flynn and Kislyak also talked about arranging a meeting between a representative of Trump and a “Russian contact” in a third country whose name was not identified, according to the anonymous letter. "
Kislyak is considered a Russian spy. Is it normal and routine to set up meetings with Russian spies outside of the USA? No? Yes?
" but it is related to the Syrian war,"
That's your spin, there's no mention of Syria in the WP article, and no reason why Trump's transition teams Syria discussions would be special and outside of Senate and Congress oversight.
Jared likely received a smartphone or similar device provided by the Russians with encryption software on it. This is not normal. It's not normal for team Trump to want to bypass the NSA, or to trust Putin more than the NSA. Well there is one reason why they'd want a more secure line.
The Kushner story had nothing to do with technology so, in a new low, slashdot's leftist editors have taken to writing up a tech story (hacking) with no relation to the story and tacked on the story they actually wanted to get out.
STILL waiting for Slashdot to run any ONE story about Hillary Clinton's email servers - which was very much a tech issue
Or how, in Benghazi, Obama and Hillary falsely claimed it was a youtube video that caused the attack and jailed a youtube video maker... for making a video.
Sure, I'll apologize, once WaPo produces proof of any of its Trump claims, and that proof survives a senate intelligence inquiry.
WaPo is essentially a hobby for Jeff Bezos. His CIA contract netted him three times the purchase price of WaPo, and WaPo's revenue is a roundoff error in his Amazon empire. It doesn't have to compete with other news organizations by doing first-class investigation and telling the truth. He can easily afford to use it as a political tool, and he does.
WaPo's reputation comes from its past, before Jeff Bezos owned it. People need to re-evaluate it.
O’Reilly said: “He’s a killer, though. Putin’s a killer.” “There are a lot of killers,” Trump replied. “We’ve got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country’s so innocent?”
He's not exactly subtle in his loyalty.
But hey, keep plugging away there, Trump above Party above Country.
Guccifer 2.0 isn't even a hacker. G2 is a DNC operative, or maybe a Clinton campaign operative, whose purpose is to delegitimize Trump's win over Clinton, even if that means war with Russia. The documents he shared were unimportant and not the least bit damaging, and his interpretation of them was comically backwards, and nobody but the alt press and Trump fans were fooled, to much amusement everywhere else.
Guccifer 2.0: Game Over
Everyone -- note that this article is being spammed hard by "Anonymous Cowards" sprouting pro-Putin and pro-Trump talking points.
Adjust your skepticism accordingly. They're rattled -- there's been a strong uptick in Putinbot activity in the last few days, which makes me wonder if pro-Western forces are getting closer to the truth on Kremlingate.
In the absence of Slashdot waking up to themselves and getting rid of "Anonymous Coward", you'll have to wade through a lot of Putinbot spam in the meantime.
Guccifer 2.0 isn't even a hacker. His leaked documents are unimportant stuff and his summary of them is comically wrong. G2 exists to create doubt about the email leaks and to discredit wikileaks.
Actual collision with Russia may be non existent or impossible to prove. It's possible that Russians are simply playing the Trump group for suckers. Certainly, I would expect Putin to be able to see that Trump is an easily manipulated idiot, even if Trump voters can't.
But Trump is sleazy and stupid, which makes him dangerous. His many opponents will work any promising angle, and it s clear that this Russia is w good angle. If not because of past misconduct, then because it is getting under his skin and that may motivate him to commit new misconduct to fight back.
From the Russian perspective there may indeed be nothing new to see here. But from the American perspective there is definitely a case worth pursuing.
Republicans hired Guccifer 2.0
..Exactly which specific US Code, Act, or Law does the POTUS having a secure communications channel with the leader of another nation violate? Wasn't there a secure 'hotline' during the Cold War?
Yeah, it violates no law or act.
More DNC/OFA/Soros bullshit fake news.
>> "And Friday Hillary Clinton was even quoted as saying, "I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians..."
Yeah keep telling yourself that Hillary. I mean your own obvious corruption had absolutely nothing to do with it right?
Unprecedented straws are the ones that matter more than the usual ones. So now it's just more things to have to deal with... except Comey broke the law, that "straw" wasn't supposed to be possible and the law was created to prevent it. The Russian stuff is a new issue that needs to be protected against but will never be stopped... hopefully it makes people finally realize computer voting machines are asinine.
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Maybe a little history lesson would be helpful for the simpletons like you. Irrespective of party, every administration and pretty much every country has back-channel communications with their enemies. About every decade or so WWIII is temporarily averted by them. Judge them by how they are used, not their existence. Two that come to mind are Carter during the Iran situation and the Kennedys during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I am sure the history buffs here can name many more instances, so I leave it to Slashdot.
So I was right that Donald Trump, Jared Kushners, and others are traitors who colluded with Russia's hack of our presidential campaign.
Nope. The story had nothing to do with that, and even top level Democrats admit Trump had nothing to do with Russia hacking the DNC.
Important to remember that the "hack" of the campaign was simply to reveal emails that Democrats, and especially Hillary, did not want the public to see. That's not a hack - that's a leak. Just like the ones Trump is going through right now. If you thought the leaks exposing Hillary were so bad, where are your complaints about leaks targeting Trump? They are equivalent. Yet I'm sure you have cheered them on even as they unravel the fabric of U.S. intelligence services.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Lock her up. Leaks from her server lead to the deaths of all the embedded agents in China is only the most recent revelation. She needs to be put behind bars.
She can shout it all she wants from behind bars where she belongs. The pro-Trump vote will not be satisfied or go away until she is locked up. Get over it.
And Friday Hillary Clinton was even quoted as saying, "I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians..."
What, exactly, does her OPINION prove?
Ken
That's the most fitting part of this entire news post.