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India Tech Giant Warns Trump's 'Radical Shift' to Hurt Industry (bloomberg.com)
The vice chairman at Tech Mahindra, one of India's largest technology services companies warned that U.S. President Donald Trump's visa policies will damage the industry as his company reported weak earnings and his stock fell the most in almost two years. From a report: Tech Mahindra said net income was 5.9 billion rupees ($91 million) in the fourth quarter, compared with the average analyst estimate of 7.8 billion, according to estimates compiled by Bloomberg. The U.S. is tightening the criteria for visa programs that Tech Mahindra and other outsourcing companies use to bring skilled foreign workers into the country. Trump and other politicians have criticized the programs for hurting American workers and allowing companies to use cheaper employees from abroad. Tech services companies, including Cognizant Technology Solutions, have been cutting positions in India. Some workers have blamed Trump for prompting the job losses and exacerbating problems in the industry.
Omg Tech Mahindra. We only have problems with them.
Good riddance!
Progressivism: Parasites helping parasites to help themselves - to other people's stuff.
Waaaaahhh!
American companies with incompetent contractors any longer?
Employment by foreign workers is a privilege, not an entitlement.
Finally, a president that actually demonstrates care about US workers, and also actually follows through on at least some of their campaign promises.
I despise Trump with a passion, but I can't argue with this one.
The visa program has served no purpose other than to cause North American wages for tech workers to stagnate because companies could simply bring someone over for cheap. There have been more than plenty of stories of companies inventing positions that exactly matched the resumes of offshore works *just* so they couldn't be filled by local people.
There has *never* been a shortage of qualified talent in the west. At least, there hadn't been. There may well be so now, since the shenanigans North American companies have been playing have driven candidates right out of the field.
Good riddance you underpaid cockroaches! Stop stealing jobs that you can't do without tons of hand holding!
...Slashdotters don't know what to hate more. Cheap IT outsourcing of entire departments through abuse of the VISA program, or, Trump.
...an unknown CEO from an unknown indian company "warns" the US-President. Is this marketing gone haywire, or did that turd just want to commit commercial suicide? Trump does not care that much if "american indians" loose their job, do you seriously think he's giving a flying fuck if "indian indians" loose their job?!
A study after the dot com bust predicated that the IT industry will have a shortage of 1M skilled workers in 2030 from baby boomers retiring and foreign workers going home. Nature is taking care of the baby boomers. Trump is getting rid of foreign workers. Now is a good time to be in IT.
DRONE STRIKE SOON BY TRUMP???
eat shiat and bark at the moon
Some workers have blamed Trump for prompting the job losses and exacerbating problems in the industry.
How exactly can Trump be responsible for the job losses from outsourcing to India? Does he own a DeLorean? As far as I know he has had nothing at all to do with the instigation of H1Bs, though I'm sure he has used them on occasion.
Is this a case of "let's blame Trump for the bad weather"?
H1-B Profiteer Against H1-B Reform.
Film At 11
...Poor company that make money off if the backs of others.
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Sorry, I just couldn't help myself. They can't interview customers, they can't write a report, they're incompetent at writing a spec, and they lack basic programming skills. But they're CHEAP! (And, I've never seen a client who found them less expensive on an overall-project-wide effort. Only bean counters love 'em.)
The headline is incorrect. This Indian VP dude is afraid it will hurt HIS industry, not THE industry.
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he's made some pronouncements, but so far just words. Talk to me when some legislation is being voted on. Or hell when he's rescinded Obama's 2014 executive order allowing H1-B spouses to work in the country. I noticed a _lot_ more female tech workers after that... And it got through while the economy was (and is) still crap. So far Trump is all populist talk and Goldman Sachs action.
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Tech services companies, including Cognizant Technology Solutions, have been cutting positions in India. Some workers have blamed Trump for prompting the job losses and exacerbating problems in the industry.
I'm sure they regret voting for him in the last election now.
Oh wait...
Why would these people assume a foreign president has their best interests at heart again? If they want to get angry about unemployment, it should be at the people actually responsible for their corner of the world.
My employer had a big initiative to reduce US engineering staff and replace them with an IT staffing firm based in India. It initially got off to a good start, until one of the Indian devs forgot a where clause in his update statement. It affected records for tens of millions of users. This was not the real problem. The real problem began when he kept quiet and swept it under the rug and we discovered it later. This incident marked the beginning of the end of our offshoring initiative.
What's his "or else"?
What's he going to DO if Trump cuts the shitty Indian programmer "industry" out of the US market?
NOT ground British Airways?
Threaten to stop delivery of shitty, bug-ridden software?
I'm shaking in my boots. Sure I am.
ROFLMAO.
I've had the misfortune of having these utterly inept assclowns come and mess up our codebase. Their leaders talk a good game, but their coders write garbage and have cost us money.
Our greedy, short-sighted managers then brought them in to take over maintenance of a bunch of old applications, having learnt absolutely nothing.
These people prey on Anglo-Saxon MBA culture to always go for the cheapest option, no matter what. The Western disease of MBA penny-pinching false economy, coupled with their own greed and complete ineptitude is a cancer.
Tech Mahindra should kindly do the needful, and STFU.
By undercutting everyone's salary and dooming me to fixing shitty pajeet code for my entire career.
"The industry is changing and I'll probably get fired. I must spread FUD!"
Table-ized A.I.
ROFLMAO
You should be shitting your pants and peeing down both legs.
The business channel for major US tech is outsourcing and visas. Because of that, American students are avoiding tech.
The US brokers that handle foreign workers for the major players like Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, etc., are laying off local administrators.
Trump's "Buy America; Hire America," only works if those things actually exist.
Meanwhile, shareholders don't give a flying shit where workers come from.
Trump is stepping on your dick.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
This president does not give one tenth of one shit about US workers. He still owns a visa mill. His "deals" brokered with Ford and Carrier turned out to be completely fake, just as we believed at the time. Nothing he does will save auto industry jobs, coal industry jobs, or any other kind of job. Even rolling back the CAFE standards would actually be detrimental to US automakers, at least the competent ones.
Too bad there isn't a champion, someone with leadership and broad vision, to come forward and oppose him!
it might mean the companies have to work a little more (very little) to get 'em, but the goal is jobs going to Americans. I haven't seen any evidence of that whatsoever (unless you count the places the H1-B's sometimes shop at as 'jobs for Americans', which the pro-H1-B side does).
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That any country would act like they have a right to the US labor market? I don't think much of Trump but I agree with this move. When companies start replacing staff with H1-B visa holders, that's when it's gone too far.
It's our country and, if we decide you can't come here, that's too damn bad. What really gripes me is the suggestion that anyone outside the US thinks they have a right to come here and work. Let me say this in all sincerity...fuck you.
That's our life, the big wheel of shit. - The Fat Man, Blue Tango Salvage
During large and rapid changes companies tend to reduce outsourcing. Could it be that the changes in the market coincide with the changes in the policy, creating the present economic problems for the outsourcing industry? Although scapegoating is fun to throw back to the source, this time the pudding may be flat. Please be free to replace the last sentence with your favourite, actually existing English saying.
Which is why I'm a shareholder at (most) of these companies. Play the game, save your money, invest it...and when all the good jobs are gone, you're set to retire.
If you choose to keep up with the Joneses, well, you're going to be fucked.
There are still plenty of high paying tech jobs here in America, and you've got a good 10 years left to make decent money. Start saving!
We have to use them as our first choice for contractors at work. EVERY SINGLE one they have sent us - we sent back within two weeks because they didn't know the technology, don't know how to code their way out of a paper bag. Can't write code that even compiles! Their people are just cr@p! THAT is why they are losing money! I bet NO ONE wants their resources because they suck! I can get Americans RIGHT out of college that are FAR superior than their folks that supposedly have 5-7 years experience!
I hope they lose enough money they go OUT OF BUSINESS!!!
The Truth is a Virus!!!
he means that IT will be done better with fewer defects and easier maintainable solutions...
fuck those shitstains
for visa abuse. Invest the money you have obtained illegally into local industry
Through the diversity scam
ROFLMAO
You should be shitting your pants and peeing down both legs.
The business channel for major US tech is outsourcing and visas. Because of that, American students are avoiding tech.
The US brokers that handle foreign workers for the major players like Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, etc., are laying off local administrators.
Trump's "Buy America; Hire America," only works if those things actually exist.
Meanwhile, shareholders don't give a flying shit where workers come from.
Trump is stepping on your dick.
Wishful thinking? Or simple close-mindedness based on "Ewwww, Trump's a RETHUGLICAN!!!!"?
If Trump is stepping on my dick, what the hell was Obama doing?
Cutting it off, grinding it up, and feeding it to the sharks?
If you haven't noticed, Silicon Valley tech companies and their billionaire 1%er owners that are behind the outsourcing of technical labor to India are HUGE supporters of Democrats. Who coincidentally LOVE illegal immigration - another giant sucking sound for jobs.
And along the way, Obama et al decided I need to "pay my fair share" so he could give MOAH FWEE STUFFS to "people that look like him"? (What's that? Half-WHITE and raised in Indonesia?!?!?!)
All the while, he was bailing out his bankster billionaire 1%er supporters.
If you liked the guys doing all that, your characterization if Trump as "stepping on my dick" is about as worthless as tits on a bull.
Because if you liked the guys doing all that, you're living in fantasyland. You actually think Democrats care about you. Yep, you actually believe in the ONE party that's behind the utter collapse of inner city schools - leaving black children without hope, trapped in an endless cycle of poverty, doomed to vote for "MOAH FWEE STUFFS!!!!" because they've been abandoned, left alive only to vote "D".
But they'll "help" you too...
Fuck that shit. I don't need to pay $6,000 a month in taxes just for fucking lazy freeloaders to whine about minimum wage not being high enough or lard-ass layabouts to pine for a "guaranteed minimum income", or to make sure some always-drunk-or-high won't-get-a-fucking-job pothead gets "free health care" so he can get a liver transplant to replace the one he pickled.
Just so the damn Democrats can get your vote - so they can sit as Secretary of State and sell control of the US uranium industry to the biggest Russian donors to their "charitable foundation". So they can say to YOU "At some point, YOU'VE made enough money." Then when they're ex-President they turn around charge $300,000 for a 15-minute speech.
Yeah, fooled YOU, haven't they?
Fuck that shit. You can't get a good job? You made your bed. Lay in it. I have a family to raise, kids to make sure have a future. You wanna flush your future running around "punching Nazis" and violently shutting down any ideas you don't agree with, like the good little brainwashed progtard Brownshirt you are? It ain't on me to bail your worthless ass out. GFY.
Serioiusly. GFY With a fifty-foot flaming telephone pole covered with splinters from two decades of lineman climbing up and down the pole with spikes.
No, I don't think Trump is out to help me.
But he ain't out to HORSE FUCK me in order get money to bribe people to vote for him.
To shift revenue from foreign companies to US companies? Sounds like Trump is doing exactly what he promised to do.
IT America has started to have enough of outsourcing. The code is generally cheap and awful. What's anecdotally weird is the few clients I've had that also paid their overseas team to do basic data entry did not get a good price on the typing jobs, the rate seemed like a US data entry rate ($10 - ~$14 hr). They got a good price on someone trying to learn frameworks on the clock but they didn't get finished product.
Yep! So let's keep allowing it happen and depend on academia to sort things out a bit longer.
Oh wait, that's literally what we have been doing for the past 20 years as India has developed into the shit storm that it is. It turns out that this line of yours:
works against your entire FUD argument. So we have the local people, we're just being replaced by cheaper people from overseas that aren't as qualified (albeit possibly not on paper).
Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day. I guess odds are that after so many fuck ups he would actually do something right. Question is, does this one issue mitigate all the other crap he has done? Short answer, no.
Not really, no. There are plenty of good tech workers right here in the U.S. already. Students will move back to tech once the glut of under-employed U.S. tech workers is absorbed.
I'm no fan of Trump, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Outsourcing generally leads to poor quality work and a lack of standards. I have yet to work with an outsourcing company that can remotely compete with home raised talent and skills.
Unless the clock is right three times a day.
SIX years the Republicans were in during Obama's presidency. Yet none of the hate for them.... dumb ass.
So, what you are delicately trying to say, is:
Fuck you, i've got mine.(And if you were smart, you would do the same thing!)
There's just one problem with that. This mentality leads to systems that self-destruct, as the vital infrastructure required to sustain them is systemically removed to meet your absurd desires of both "self enrichment" + "Oppression/disablement of others". Basically, your money (which is a promise to have work done for you, and nothing more.) becomes less valuable, because you have destroyed the availability of labor, by removing the labor itself (the jobs to be done) from the market.
This will do nothing but cause a massive market contraction when taken to the extremes, which is exactly where people like you are driving it towards.
Good luck living the high life, when the standard of living drops like a stone.
Foreigners starve while America white citizens live fat.
Basically, these people will never admit that they're wrong and their views are cockeyed.
The most they'll ever do is devolve into autistic screeching if you try to force a real answer out of them.
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THANK GOD!!!
There are plenty of good tech workers right here in the U.S. already.
The definition of "good," is not what you think it is.
"Good," is defined by the people who hire.
"Good," in this context, is, "cheap."
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
[Mumbai Accent] Hello, this is Bob from Microsoft. We have detected that you are infecticated with a computer virus. We would like to enter your system and fix this for you. We just need access and a credit card...
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
Regardless of our political leanings, I think the majority of us Americans in the technology industry approve of Trump in at least this one area.
That's fucking retarded even for /.
Well, that's off the table now. They'll have to settle for good as in competent. Why should I shit my pants over employers having to pay employees what they're worth?
Man who stands to lose a lot of money is opposed to the loss of his money.
More at eleven.
SIX years the Republicans were in during Obama's presidency. Yet none of the hate for them.... dumb ass.
Elementary school was the best decade of your life, wasn't it? And it's been all downhill from there...
Did you miss my fucking saying that I don't think for one damn second that Trump and the Republicans are going to help me?
But I already KNOW the Democrats are out to HORSE FUCK me in order to pillage every damn thing I have so they can give it away and bribe the uneducated and unthinking for votes. All the while claiming to "help" them. (Look at inner city blacks - do you REALLY want the Democrats' "help"?)
So they can get power and either sell their influence for millions of dollars (Clinton) or their 15-minute speeches for hundreds of thousands of dollars (Obama).
We'll fix that. You want food? Here do this for me, or I kill you and find someone else willing to do it for me. (Where "this" and "it" is anything from security "enforcement" to crop harvesting.)
You seem to think that when we devolve back to great depression standards, or worse, that the people will rise up and do a giant robin hood on their oppressors. Buddy, do I have news for you..... Most people won't do that because even when they don't even have the basic necessities of life (food, water, shelter) left to loose, they still think that they do. Or at the very least that if they wait it out, something will happen to make it all go away without them risking their necks.
As such, No, when this does happen, (and it will happen), there won't be a large uprising. You'll be back to dark ages level of oppression, complete with despots giving no chance to the public to better themselves. Money doesn't mean shit if you own everything. They either do as they are told and maybe get to live another day, or they become the next visitor to Room 101.
Really? That was fairly stupid on the face of it when even India admits that 80% of there college grad programmers and 90% of all other IT grads are so under skilled they would not qualify for any US job except there getting only a few pennies on the dollar.
Some workers have blamed Trump
Considering the entire point of this effort by Trump was to bring jobs back to the United States and no secret was made of this, Indian workers blaming Trump is pretty much an expected side effect of an intended effort, yes.
A similar story appeared in our local news last weekend about US tourist numbers being down 26% this year. But tourism from China has grown remarkably and more than made up for it. Demand for software skills will follow the same path. There is no point crying over the US becoming isolationist, just go out and replace the business from elsewhere.
...you'll find it in the dictionary in between shit and syphilis. It's high time countries started forcing companies to take care of their own instead of being allowed to bring in cheap Indian replacements. Let India solve it's own labor problems.
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It seems that you also have had enough of all this crap as well.
And who signs the check? And who, to quote one pointy haired manager, considers anything they cannot understand in 5 minutes to be unimportant. And who pays for lobbiests? Ipso Facto (Factum?) The motivation is clear, consistent, and will not change as long as customers (and us in IT when an incomprehensible recruiter calls) are legally able to refuse to work with an incompetent service representative (technically, we are not at this time). So bean counters win. It's the law.
Daylight savings time only ends one day a year, though.
So Tech Mahindra has weak earnings, and it's Trump's fault? Just b'cos Tech Mahindra can't keep bringing in Indians in for every req they have. A recruiter I know told me that they have a policy of hiring only ethnic Indians (be they US or Indian citizens), and very rarely do they prefer Americans. The sooner they're driven out of the US market, the better.
Congress should pass a special law banning Tech Mahindra from using any H1Bs, L1s or anything like that. It won't hurt the industry, just losers like Tech Mahindra, Syntel, et al
Why should I shit my pants over employers having to pay employees what they're worth?
Because employers are not the ones taking a hit.
You are.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Not exactly. The Conservatives - the ones in the Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institute, Club for Growth, et al, still believe that companies should have the freedom to hire anyone they want, even if it means making it easier to legally migrate. Their problem: Trump has run away w/ their party. When someone wins the White House by carrying states that haven't voted (R) since President Reagan's 49 state landslide in 1984, it's tough to argue w/ him, let alone stop him from calling the shots in the party.
What's new here is the Economic Nationalists - the people like Bannon, Sessions, Miller, et al, who do not believe in making it easier for companies to offshore jobs and then resume selling their wares in the US. And that's likely to become a growing and increasingly powerful faction in the GOP, displacing the classic George Will, Steve Forbes, Charles Krauthammer types who believe in letting the market simply work its magic, no shackles involved.
The only people shitting are the shitty Indian tech companies and workers taking shits in open fields.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CazusmLn3A
No, I'm really not. Sure, prices of some things may go up a bit, but by the time you factor the number of units software development costs are amortized over plus the savings brought by higher quality development (yes, Indian programmers can be great, but Infosys doesn't typically hire those programmers), the additional cost is quite small.
Fuck you, i've got mine.(And if you were smart, you would do the same thing!)
Works (worked) for me. Now I'm leaving. So long, thanks and good luck.
Nice disaster porn wet dream, broham. But ya know... the kind of guy who would actually become a despot in a failed state is likely neither anonymous nor cowardly. Just sayin'...
But if tech work is back in demand, bringing steeply rising wages and respect, won't it be harder for inbred halfwit nepotism beneficiaries to make fun of nerds? There will be some disappointed Progressives!
A good start, but it's time to make them feel the same pain that they inflicted on Americans.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
I find people with attitudes like his very funny. Because if it does go down how he portrays. somebody like me will have him kissing the ground telling them where his food and weapon supply is.
Slashdot consensus seems to be:
- Tech is not a good place to work, avoid if possible
- Tech requires innate, DNA level qualities for people to find it attractive (hence women aren't interested)
- Any attempt to increase the labour pool is to drive down wages or some kind of social justice jihad
- Only westerners are any good at it, Indians in particular all suck so hard most can't even get their code to compile
- Companies prefer this level of incompetence because CEOs prosper in the short term from the cost savings, even though it's been happening for decades apparently
- It's so bad some places are 90%+ Indian, but for some reason in the US rather than just opening an office in India where wages are even lower
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I am not an economist and most of my "education" in economics consists of news magazines and the EconTalk podcast.
But whenever I talk to someone online or in person who has an economics background, we often get around to the topic of whether economics has a zero-sum component to it and nearly all of them say it does not.
I can always think of lots of examples in the short run where it is zero sum -- a firm has a finite revenue in a given period, thus profit is a finite value, and how that profit is distributed is zero sum -- if more is paid to the CEO, that means less is available to be paid to everyone else.
This seems like another example of zero sum outcomes -- a finite amount of capital is allocated for labor costs, and more spent in the US means less spent on Indian outsourcing firms.
Shut up APK and don't forget to take your meds
about time something was done about india wanting to take over every tech bussiness while 80% of that nation litteraly walks through its own shit.
First things first india. Get your act together before you go hunting the topdog tech position. Otherwise you could launch all that feces into space perhaps.
Polution is never a nice thing.
Quite the straw house you have built up.
The H1B Visa program has destroyed the labor market for programmers. It has driven programmers salary to the lowest level in decades. If you have a child thinking about doing programming as a career please convince him otherwise. All corporations are looking to hire the lowest cost programming labor even if it guarantees that their software projects will fail. And it will fail.
If you don't suspect that some or most of these are true, you don't work in tech. Real talk.
The problem with the "I have mine, up yours" attitude is that it takes a functioning government for someone's business to exist at all. Transportation? Need security to keep roads clear of bandits. Business store-front? Have to have police to ensure the place isn't burned in a riot. Power/utility services? If people are focusing on surviving, they are not buying your goods.
The ideal for the libertarians is a country like Somalia or Afghanistan. No taxes, little government. However, look how life is there, where the most brutal warlord is the one that seizes control. Want to live life in that type of society, keep voting libertarian. Want a functioning society where you can actually go to a park or have a beer without an armed guard? Pay a small part of the income.
In fact, because of this libertarian stuff, I will say that US residents and citizens are the most taxed in the world. Not direct taxes by the government, but things like health insurance (where I live, you have to pay your $1000 a month even if you have no income.), road tolls (which affect the poorer people who can't afford the $1800/month for a 1/1 in the city), registration/inspection fees, HOA fees... and G-d help you if you get in trouble with the law (which can be as simple as running a red light which is an arrestable offense), because you either pay your life's savings for a lawyer, or benefit the private prison system as part of the herd. Even worse, if you get sick, kiss your nest egg good bye, as the US has the most expensive healthcare system in the world, both per capita, and total.
When all is said and done, I rather see someone on welfare get enough to feed their dog steak than what we have now. We could give a guarenteed minimum income of $50k a year to all US citizens if we cut one tax break.
Other people have talked that revolution is impossible. Realistically, the only reason Daesh exists is because people have nowhere else to turn to. If life gets that way here in the US, Daesh's brutal and evil ideology will flourish here, because it gives people hope when all else is lost. So, feel free to be a libertarian and bend the knee at the altar of Ayn Rand. Just remember, when the guy who has nothing else to live for, but a cause, does yet another heinous act, it will be the libertarians are the one who made him.
No wounder America has massive unemployment you people think putting your country first and reducing unemployment is committing a crime. FFS i would love to have some of that Trump mentality in our SJW prime minister.
I find it hillaroius that you jew-fag sand n1ggers who think you aren't sand n1ggers find it necessary to censor the name of GOD, despite "god" not being a name, but a pronoun, because there's more than one religion dumbshit.
Another jew-fag invention.
You negated yourself.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
I didn't know that, as US of A, we have a responsibility to keep the India's tech sector afloat, by allowing them to dump their tech workforce as a cheap replacement for American workers. What a shocker. These guys are far worse than the entitled minded millennial generation.As far as I am concerned, they can pack their bags and go home and stew in their own pot. For the past 20 years, US has given too much leeway to these clowns. Time to reclaim it back.
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The illiterate, incompetent Indian "pimps" have been sucking on the "American teat" for long enough!
Fuck off, Hymie.
Only if you consider yourself brutally assaulted when a gnat lands on you.
If you want to crap your pants over $0.50, that's your call, there are probably people who will give you a dollar to let them video it.
I voted for Trump, for THIS exact reason.
It has nothing to do with when we change the clocks, forwards or backwards. And it's right three times a day every day.
If you understand economics then this whole pile of shit can be ignored.
Basic rule of economics is an economy can be valued by its outputs. or it is equal to the outputs/population
So if you enrich another nation (or nation's population) you have increased the effective population but if you have not increased the outputs accordingly then you have made your nation poorer.
Trump is good at business which is why his budget includes less handing our (not mine as I am not in the US) tax to people who produce no output. Taking hard earned money and giving it away. Also he wants decrease the effective population so that the US is not funding every other nation in various ways, and stop people from coming in and undercutting US jobs. These are simple economic principals that must work.
Just like if you outgoings exceed your incomings then the upkeep will be your downfall.
It is great to see someone who is not confused or chasing his tail making real policy decisions that will benefit the US and in turn the rest of the western world who follow the US (which is my country.)
The leaches and the media and the politicians all hate Trump. But he is actually different from the status quo and he does know what he is doing business wise.
From me he gets respect for that.
Not really, no. There are plenty of good tech workers right here in the U.S. already.
I totally agree. They may want a higher price for their work, but they are more likely to put in the necessary hours to produce a quality product.
So you get what you pay for. Sadly most Americans & American businesses "demand cheep but high quality" products, yet that demand is an oxymoron
Students will move back to tech once the glut of under-employed U.S. tech workers is absorbed.
I think a lot of American students moved away from tech when the outsourcing craze (lunacy? insanity?) took hold in the minds of American businessmen that were laser-focused on the bottomline and decided that they could cut costs by cutting out their IT staff and replacing them with underpaid and poorly performing "outsourced employees" (codeword for "contractors") that don't care about quality or the businesses that they serve.
In other words, the American tech employment marketplace was undercut by low overseas costs at the expense of quality (usually due to poor negoiated contracts, contractors multitasking among multiple clients) and responsiveness (usually due to a poorly negotiated contract or lax enforcement of contract terms by the client).
So you do get what you pay for, or, you don't get it if you don't pay for it or demand it.
Sadly those American businessmen tend to get laser-focused on the bottomline because Wall Street brokers and investors will lambast the businesses for poor earning, or the stock will drop precipitously if earnings don't meet the forecast of the business.
Many outsourcing companies bamboozled clients with contracts that clients were ill-equipped to understand or negotiate. So much for 'fiduciary responsibility" by those clients. If clients did want to dispute contracts or demand service level penalties, then the outsourcing company could tie up the client in lawsuits.
Either way the outsourcing companies had the huevos of their clients firmly clenched in their money-grubbing little fists.
you still think there is a shortage of american IT workers? LOL.
google "IT grads can't find jobs" I dare you.
Add another requirement: MUST speak CLEAR, fluent English!
That will weed out another 80%!
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.