Killer nannys aren't the problem. It's the idea of kids in day care generally being raised by the other kids in day care. That's not good for the children. Their role models are either the adults there, who have no real reason to actually love the children (although many do), or the other children, or whatever crap they see on television.
I think people should stop being selfish and hateful, and learn how to love each other again. Then, we wouldn't have so many divorces (and yes, you divorcees, it's partially your fault). As well as that, every set of parents should do absolutely everything in their power to leave one parent at home.
Me? I sleep better knowing that my children are being raised by my wife, whom I trust completely. (As an aside - if you think about it, you'll realize that kids in day care are raised by other kids more than the day care workers. That's frightening.)
That's the best solution. Anything else is a cheap imitation.
Was it a political statement, or was he just being a punk? Since he walked away without saying anything at all, the school had no idea.
Now, the school should have expunged the suspension from his record after they found out what he was really doing. But I think he hurt himself by making a statement without making a statement. He should have explained himself, and then walked away.
They have no privacy or right to due process, and are routinely sent home, suspended, or forced into "special education" programs for dressing oddly, speaking honestly, or playing the wrong kind of computer games.
1) They have no right to privacy or due process...
Very true, and they shouldn't. Are we next going to argue for due process in the home, and pick on parents who don't implement it? Don't get me wrong - I think the kid got a very sour deal, but I don't think the answer lies in a school court system. Privacy? They should have it if they earn it. One thing that really bothers me as a parent is to hear people talking about how children (mine included) should have all the rights and priviledges that adults have. Should my children have the right to total privacy if I am partly responsible, under the law, for their every act? That's not fair, Jon. I'm not against privacy, but I will invade it if I need to uphold my moral or legal responsibility as a parent.
2)...and are routinely sent home, suspended, or forced into "special education" programs for dressing oddly, speaking honestly, or playing the wrong kind of computer games.
Wow, you make it sound like an epidemic. I did every single one of those when I was in school, but I was never put into special education, nor sent home. In fact, I earned the respect of some of the teachers for my intelligence and honesty. Okay, I said I was never sent home - I meant sent home unfairly. Most of the time, when I had a problem with a teacher, it was because I "spoke honestly" at the wrong time or in the wrong way. It wasn't honesty, it was disrespect, and I believe that that sort of speaking should be corrected.
What? No free speech for children?
Not without consequences - just like in the real world, which is what we're supposed to be preparing our children for.
What I want to know is this: why, Jon, do you pander to the young readership on Slashdot? Is it because you haven't grown up yourself and you identify with them better, or is it so they'll keep coming back and sometimes click on the ads?
I can't wait until you have your own children. Then, when you're all responsible for the life, well being, and education of people who can't live without your support, we'll see how much privacy and due process you really think they should have.
I have that, and another saying on my cubicle wall:
On two occasions I have been asked (by members of Parliament!), 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." -- Charles Babbage
...valued critical, free thinking - instead of mass conformity and ignorance...
I'm assuming you meant to point out that religion values mass conformity and ignorance. Let me assure you that there are religions that teach you to question, search, and educate yourself - such as mine.
Do you think that religion exists to control people because you've never found one that doesn't, or because you possess a high-and-mighty "I'm better than religious people because I don't need a religion" attitude?
I've spent a few years trying to help people see the benefits of religion, and I've found that most people who don't like religion don't like it because belonging to some type of it would mean a change. Then they use the "control the masses" argument to justify their apathy or stubbornness.
A real free thinker is free to think of things that suggest he change something about himself.
Also, Bush's whole web site is like that. Gore's is a bunch of wash about what he intends to do, fix, etc. Bush's is filled with actual plans.
I don't care if the man sometimes can't speak straight. (Besides, how many really smart people do you know that can't communicate?) He can choose a good cabinet and good advisors, and they do their homework. I'd rather vote for Bush's cabinet than for Gore.
Actually, I just got myself a Radeon. It's nice and fast, so far.
By the way, if ANYONE out there gets this, make sure you get the updated drivers, especially if you have a KT-133 chipset on your mobo. It hangs if you don't. Yes, firsthand experience tells me so.
I've got a Voodoo 4 4500 myself (I bought it for $143), and I'm afraid that I'm pretty happy with it. Not a bad card, good frame rates, and I can finally rail people properly...
Did anyone else out there get a Voodoo 4? I found one for $143, and it totally rocks in Quake III with everything turned on. It averages around 90 fps on 800x600 on my Duron 700 system with everything turned on.
I haven't been able to find any benchmarks on it at all, and I think it's because everyone's concentrating on the Voodoo 5. (They were released at the same time, I believe. That could have something to do with the cost.) It's really nearly the same card, but with just one processor - it even uses the same drivers.
Politics 101 teaches us that "government" is formed when the whole of the citizenry gives up a few rights in order to benefit the whole.
Too many people forget this and polarize themselves against the government. Stupid, stupid. Thanks for the post - I hope more Slashdotters read it and think a bit more about their civic duties.
I know many people with religous beliefs who very strongly believe that religious beliefs should be questioned, and that those questions deserve an answer.
Same here. In fact, that's how we teach the members of our church to obtain faith in the first place. In my experience, that's the only way for it to become strong enough that you'll base your actions on it.
Of course you have an option. I'm a Christian that belongs to a pretty strict church, but I've always had the freedom to choose. We would tell you about the consequences in eternal terms and in this life, and athiests will tell you about the consequences in the next few years or so.
Why do you think that when somebody says, for instance, "Don't watch 'Psycho Porn Stars from Hell,'" that they're limiting your choices? The word "don't" doesn't limit anything unless you still live with your parents, and then it has the same connotation whether you're athiest or religious.
My religion says, "Don't drink alcohol." Does that mean that I can't? Not really. "Do not" is much different than "can not." Of course, I take the suggestion (or commandment, for me), because I'm fully aware of the consequenses.
Jim Lehrer: Welcome to the second presidential debate between Vice President Al Gore and Gov. George W. Bush. The candidates have agreed on
these rules: I will ask a question. The candidate will ignore the question
and deliver rehearsed remarks designed to appeal to undecided women
voters. The opponent will then have one minute to respond by trying to
frighten senior citizens into voting for him. When a speaker's
time has expired, I will whimper softly while he continues to spew
incomprehensible statistics for three more minutes. Let's start with the
vice president. Mr. Gore, can you give us the name of a downtrodden
citizen and then tell us his or her story in a way that strains the bounds
of common sense?
Gore: As I was saying to Tipper last night after we tenderly made love the
way we have so often during the 30 years of our rock-solid marriage, the
downtrodden have a clear choice in this election. My opponent wants to cut
taxes for the richest 1 percent of Americans. I, on the other hand, want
to put the richest 1 percent in an iron clad lockbox so they can't hurt
old people like Roberta Frampinhamper, who is here tonight. Mrs.
Frampinhamper has been selling her internal organs, one by one, to pay for
gas so that she can travel to these debates and personify problems for me.
Also, her poodle has arthritis.
Lehrer: Gov. Bush, your rebuttal.
Bush: Governors are on the front lines every day, hugging people, crying
with them, relieving suffering anywhere a photo opportunity exists. I
want to empower those crying people to make their own decisions, unlike my
opponent, whose mother is not Barbara Bush.
Lehrer: Let's turn to foreign affairs. Gov. Bush, if Slobodan Milosevic
were to launch a bid to return to power in Yugoslavia, would you be able
to pronounce his name?
Bush: The current administration had eight years to deal with that guy and
didn't get it done. If I'm elected, the first thing I would do about that
guy is have Dick Cheney confer with our allies. And then Dick would
present me several options for dealing with that guy. And then Dick would
tell me which one to choose. You know, as governor of Texas, I have to
make tough foreign policy decisions every day about how we're going to
deal with New Mexico.
Lehrer: Mr. Gore, your rebuttal.
Gore: Foreign policy is something I've always been keenly interested in. I
served my country in Vietnam. I had an uncle who was a victim of poison
gas in World War I. I myself lost a leg in the Franco-Prussian War. And
when that war was over, I came home and tenderly made love to Tipper in a
way that any undecided woman voter would find
romantic. If I'm entrusted with the office of president, I pledge to deal
knowledgeably
with any threat, foreign or domestic, by putting it in an iron clad
lockbox. Because the American people deserve a president who can comfort
them with simple metaphors.
Lehrer: Vice President Gore, how would you reform the Social Security
system?
Gore: It's a vital issue, Jim. That's why Joe Lieberman and I have
proposed changing the laws of mathematics to allow us to give $50,000 to
every senior citizen without having it cost the federal treasury a single
penny until the year 2250. In addition, my budget commits $60 trillion
over the next 10 years to guarantee that all senior citizens can
have drugs delivered free to their homes every Monday by a federal
employee who
will also help them with the child-proof cap.
Lehrer: Gov. Bush?
Bush: That's fuzzy math. I know, because as governor of Texas, I have to
do math every day. I have to add up the numbers and decide whether I'm
going to fill potholes out on Rt. 36 east of Abilene or commit funds to
reroof the sheep barn at the Texas state fairgrounds.
Lehrer: It's time for closing statements.
Gore: I'm my own man. I may not be the most exciting politician, but I
will fight for the working families of America, in addition to turning the
White House into a lusty pit of marital love for Tipper and me.
Bush: It's time to put aside the partisanship of the past by electing no
one but Republicans.
Yet somehow I know that Bush, Lott, Helms, and company are going to be telling me I'd better vote for them or the whole shithouse is going to burn to the ground.
I haven't heard that yet, but I have heard Gore trying to scare the elderly into voting for him. Food or medication, folks: what will it be? Right.
...the media is by and large conservative, not liberal...
What country have you been living in?
It was only recently that the media started doing "against Gore" sorts of things, because, though liberal, the media has to capitalize on lies and things they can generally poke fun at. Gore's the butt of the jokes this round, that's all.
But by definition, the media must be liberal - first, because everyone in the media is out to change the world. Also, it seems that liberals get elected by telling people how terrible everything is and how it all needs to change. The media, in order to keep ratings, has to shock and infuriate, which entails telling people how terrible everything is. They both bring to people's attention the exact same thing, and so they agree on a great many things. How could they ever be conservative?
Anyone who says the media is conservative has got to be one of the most left-wing people in the entire world.
By the way, I'd rather accept grammatical errors than lies from a president. In other words, I'll accept integrity over grammatical correctness any day of any year, and my user name is grammar fascist, for crying out loud. Check your priorities, please.
...for you are saying that you wish to take the right of their bodies away from them...
Whose body?
Really - whose body is it? Does it belong to the woman, or the child? If it belongs to the woman, when does the child get it? If current trends continue, soon the child's body will belong to the woman until the child is two years old, and the woman will have the right to kill it up until then. Sound good?
Here's the deal - I fully support a woman's right to choose. There are a whole heck of a lot of people like me out there (and yes, even women!) who believe that you choose to risk having children when you have sex. Abortion is all about putting off consequences in the name of convenience, not the right to choose. Don't give us that "holier than thou" right-to-choose crap - people can choose when to have sex. We're all too worried about a mother's "right to choose" (as we mistakenly call it) and totally forgetting about our children.
Besides, what kind of respect for life has a society that accepts partial-birth abortions? I can tell you: not much at all.
...a renewed surge of christian idealisms imbued in our legislation...
Wouldn't that be great?
First - doesn't every law have a moral basis? They're based on some group's idea of what's right and wrong, aren't they? Well, most people in this country would like to see laws rooted in their own morality, and that, for the most part, means Christian. Take it or leave it. There's always another country for you.
From comment 11:
When I worked for Walmart, I would dream about UPC symbols because I was a stockperson for awhile. When I took calculus in college, I constantly dreamed about math. And now, I dream about programming and routing.
From comment 44:
It's pretty funny actually, I get the same thing while cramming for final exams. The night before the exam I usually end up having a nightmare about solving problems...
From comment 64:
When I was taking a lot of math in college I had a dream about wrestling an equation like it was a snake.
From comment 156:&l t;br>
I loaded in Quake and played for the first time in years yesterday. When I went to bed that night, I couldn't get any images to sit still in my head - they were all "jumping" like you when running around in Quake and moving around like crazy. This was before I even fell asleep. I had to keep opening my eyes to get things to settle down.
From comment 170:&l t;br>
Heh recently I started playing FF8 - and once again i remembered why i don't play many games. I start to dream about them (esp when a 6 hour session of sitting there after work playing is the last thing that I do before bed).
And my personal favorite, from comment 118:&l t;br>
I remember when I was hooked on X-Com Apocalypse once. When I started involuntarily getting confused about people in real life moving around when they shouldn't have movement points left, I stopped playing.
Okay, folks. Here's the deal: everything has an effect on you, whether you like it or not. Some concerned people have decided that people under 18 (who don't have full rights as citizens yet - like voting, drinking, etc.) aren't mature enough to make the decision about whether or not they want deal with the effects of violent games.
How about we drop the teenage "I should be able to do anything I like no matter what it does to me or anyone else" attitude and think like grown-ups, here?
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Killer nannys aren't the problem. It's the idea of kids in day care generally being raised by the other kids in day care. That's not good for the children. Their role models are either the adults there, who have no real reason to actually love the children (although many do), or the other children, or whatever crap they see on television.
I'll take my wife over any of those, any day.
What do you all think?
I think people should stop being selfish and hateful, and learn how to love each other again. Then, we wouldn't have so many divorces (and yes, you divorcees, it's partially your fault). As well as that, every set of parents should do absolutely everything in their power to leave one parent at home.
Me? I sleep better knowing that my children are being raised by my wife, whom I trust completely. (As an aside - if you think about it, you'll realize that kids in day care are raised by other kids more than the day care workers. That's frightening.)
That's the best solution. Anything else is a cheap imitation.
ugdct-blam install ttygols.
;)
It includes gluptrens.
That's what your statements must look like to a Microsoft user.
Was it a political statement, or was he just being a punk? Since he walked away without saying anything at all, the school had no idea.
Now, the school should have expunged the suspension from his record after they found out what he was really doing. But I think he hurt himself by making a statement without making a statement. He should have explained himself, and then walked away.
Wow! An interesting JonKatz article!
...and are routinely sent home, suspended, or forced into "special education" programs for dressing oddly, speaking honestly, or playing the wrong kind of computer games.
However, I must take issue with one statement:
They have no privacy or right to due process, and are routinely sent home, suspended, or forced into "special education" programs for dressing oddly, speaking honestly, or playing the wrong kind of computer games.
1) They have no right to privacy or due process...
Very true, and they shouldn't. Are we next going to argue for due process in the home, and pick on parents who don't implement it? Don't get me wrong - I think the kid got a very sour deal, but I don't think the answer lies in a school court system. Privacy? They should have it if they earn it. One thing that really bothers me as a parent is to hear people talking about how children (mine included) should have all the rights and priviledges that adults have. Should my children have the right to total privacy if I am partly responsible, under the law, for their every act? That's not fair, Jon. I'm not against privacy, but I will invade it if I need to uphold my moral or legal responsibility as a parent.
2)
Wow, you make it sound like an epidemic. I did every single one of those when I was in school, but I was never put into special education, nor sent home. In fact, I earned the respect of some of the teachers for my intelligence and honesty. Okay, I said I was never sent home - I meant sent home unfairly. Most of the time, when I had a problem with a teacher, it was because I "spoke honestly" at the wrong time or in the wrong way. It wasn't honesty, it was disrespect, and I believe that that sort of speaking should be corrected.
What? No free speech for children?
Not without consequences - just like in the real world, which is what we're supposed to be preparing our children for.
What I want to know is this: why, Jon, do you pander to the young readership on Slashdot? Is it because you haven't grown up yourself and you identify with them better, or is it so they'll keep coming back and sometimes click on the ads?
I can't wait until you have your own children. Then, when you're all responsible for the life, well being, and education of people who can't live without your support, we'll see how much privacy and due process you really think they should have.
I have that, and another saying on my cubicle wall:
...valued critical, free thinking - instead of mass conformity and ignorance...
I'm assuming you meant to point out that religion values mass conformity and ignorance. Let me assure you that there are religions that teach you to question, search, and educate yourself - such as mine.
Do you think that religion exists to control people because you've never found one that doesn't, or because you possess a high-and-mighty "I'm better than religious people because I don't need a religion" attitude?
I've spent a few years trying to help people see the benefits of religion, and I've found that most people who don't like religion don't like it because belonging to some type of it would mean a change. Then they use the "control the masses" argument to justify their apathy or stubbornness.
A real free thinker is free to think of things that suggest he change something about himself.
Um..why is this moderated as flamebait?
So you could be moderated up to 3 by posting a reply about how it was unfair, of course! Aren't those moderators just the nicest people?
Also, Bush's whole web site is like that. Gore's is a bunch of wash about what he intends to do, fix, etc. Bush's is filled with actual plans.
I don't care if the man sometimes can't speak straight. (Besides, how many really smart people do you know that can't communicate?) He can choose a good cabinet and good advisors, and they do their homework. I'd rather vote for Bush's cabinet than for Gore.
Actually, I just got myself a Radeon. It's nice and fast, so far.
By the way, if ANYONE out there gets this, make sure you get the updated drivers, especially if you have a KT-133 chipset on your mobo. It hangs if you don't. Yes, firsthand experience tells me so.
Triple post. After reading the article, I think I'm going to trade it in and get myself an ATI Radeon DDR...
Sorry about the double post. The reason that the Voodoo 4 holds 60fps on Quake between 16- and 32-bit color is that it doesn't do 16-bit color.
I've got a Voodoo 4 4500 myself (I bought it for $143), and I'm afraid that I'm pretty happy with it. Not a bad card, good frame rates, and I can finally rail people properly...
Plus, who really needs 200 fps??
If tomorrow's games throw twice the number of polygons at the graphics card, I might want one then.
Today's 200fps is tomorrow's 60fps...
Did anyone else out there get a Voodoo 4? I found one for $143, and it totally rocks in Quake III with everything turned on. It averages around 90 fps on 800x600 on my Duron 700 system with everything turned on.
I haven't been able to find any benchmarks on it at all, and I think it's because everyone's concentrating on the Voodoo 5. (They were released at the same time, I believe. That could have something to do with the cost.) It's really nearly the same card, but with just one processor - it even uses the same drivers.
Does anyone have any info on this card?
Politics 101 teaches us that "government" is formed when the whole of the citizenry gives up a few rights in order to benefit the whole.
Too many people forget this and polarize themselves against the government. Stupid, stupid. Thanks for the post - I hope more Slashdotters read it and think a bit more about their civic duties.
I know many people with religous beliefs who very strongly believe that religious beliefs should be questioned, and that those questions deserve an answer.
Same here. In fact, that's how we teach the members of our church to obtain faith in the first place. In my experience, that's the only way for it to become strong enough that you'll base your actions on it.
Of course you have an option. I'm a Christian that belongs to a pretty strict church, but I've always had the freedom to choose. We would tell you about the consequences in eternal terms and in this life, and athiests will tell you about the consequences in the next few years or so.
Why do you think that when somebody says, for instance, "Don't watch 'Psycho Porn Stars from Hell,'" that they're limiting your choices? The word "don't" doesn't limit anything unless you still live with your parents, and then it has the same connotation whether you're athiest or religious.
My religion says, "Don't drink alcohol." Does that mean that I can't? Not really. "Do not" is much different than "can not." Of course, I take the suggestion (or commandment, for me), because I'm fully aware of the consequenses.
Woo woo! Thanks for the post!
Seriously, though, I've tried to explain this many times to many people, but they never seemed to get it...
Presidential Debate Transcript
Jim Lehrer: Welcome to the second presidential debate between Vice President Al Gore and Gov. George W. Bush. The candidates have agreed on these rules: I will ask a question. The candidate will ignore the question and deliver rehearsed remarks designed to appeal to undecided women voters. The opponent will then have one minute to respond by trying to frighten senior citizens into voting for him. When a speaker's time has expired, I will whimper softly while he continues to spew incomprehensible statistics for three more minutes. Let's start with the vice president. Mr. Gore, can you give us the name of a downtrodden citizen and then tell us his or her story in a way that strains the bounds of common sense?
Gore: As I was saying to Tipper last night after we tenderly made love the way we have so often during the 30 years of our rock-solid marriage, the downtrodden have a clear choice in this election. My opponent wants to cut taxes for the richest 1 percent of Americans. I, on the other hand, want to put the richest 1 percent in an iron clad lockbox so they can't hurt old people like Roberta Frampinhamper, who is here tonight. Mrs. Frampinhamper has been selling her internal organs, one by one, to pay for gas so that she can travel to these debates and personify problems for me. Also, her poodle has arthritis.
Lehrer: Gov. Bush, your rebuttal.
Bush: Governors are on the front lines every day, hugging people, crying with them, relieving suffering anywhere a photo opportunity exists. I want to empower those crying people to make their own decisions, unlike my opponent, whose mother is not Barbara Bush.
Lehrer: Let's turn to foreign affairs. Gov. Bush, if Slobodan Milosevic were to launch a bid to return to power in Yugoslavia, would you be able to pronounce his name?
Bush: The current administration had eight years to deal with that guy and didn't get it done. If I'm elected, the first thing I would do about that guy is have Dick Cheney confer with our allies. And then Dick would present me several options for dealing with that guy. And then Dick would tell me which one to choose. You know, as governor of Texas, I have to make tough foreign policy decisions every day about how we're going to deal with New Mexico.
Lehrer: Mr. Gore, your rebuttal.
Gore: Foreign policy is something I've always been keenly interested in. I served my country in Vietnam. I had an uncle who was a victim of poison gas in World War I. I myself lost a leg in the Franco-Prussian War. And when that war was over, I came home and tenderly made love to Tipper in a way that any undecided woman voter would find romantic. If I'm entrusted with the office of president, I pledge to deal knowledgeably with any threat, foreign or domestic, by putting it in an iron clad lockbox. Because the American people deserve a president who can comfort them with simple metaphors.
Lehrer: Vice President Gore, how would you reform the Social Security system?
Gore: It's a vital issue, Jim. That's why Joe Lieberman and I have proposed changing the laws of mathematics to allow us to give $50,000 to every senior citizen without having it cost the federal treasury a single penny until the year 2250. In addition, my budget commits $60 trillion over the next 10 years to guarantee that all senior citizens can have drugs delivered free to their homes every Monday by a federal employee who will also help them with the child-proof cap.
Lehrer: Gov. Bush?
Bush: That's fuzzy math. I know, because as governor of Texas, I have to do math every day. I have to add up the numbers and decide whether I'm going to fill potholes out on Rt. 36 east of Abilene or commit funds to reroof the sheep barn at the Texas state fairgrounds.
Lehrer: It's time for closing statements.
Gore: I'm my own man. I may not be the most exciting politician, but I will fight for the working families of America, in addition to turning the White House into a lusty pit of marital love for Tipper and me.
Bush: It's time to put aside the partisanship of the past by electing no one but Republicans.
Lehrer: Thank you and good night.
Yet somehow I know that Bush, Lott, Helms, and company are going to be telling me I'd better vote for them or the whole shithouse is going to burn to the ground.
I haven't heard that yet, but I have heard Gore trying to scare the elderly into voting for him. Food or medication, folks: what will it be? Right.
There ought to be a +1, Sarcastic...
...the media is by and large conservative, not liberal...
What country have you been living in?
It was only recently that the media started doing "against Gore" sorts of things, because, though liberal, the media has to capitalize on lies and things they can generally poke fun at. Gore's the butt of the jokes this round, that's all.
But by definition, the media must be liberal - first, because everyone in the media is out to change the world. Also, it seems that liberals get elected by telling people how terrible everything is and how it all needs to change. The media, in order to keep ratings, has to shock and infuriate, which entails telling people how terrible everything is. They both bring to people's attention the exact same thing, and so they agree on a great many things. How could they ever be conservative?
Anyone who says the media is conservative has got to be one of the most left-wing people in the entire world.
By the way, I'd rather accept grammatical errors than lies from a president. In other words, I'll accept integrity over grammatical correctness any day of any year, and my user name is grammar fascist, for crying out loud. Check your priorities, please.
...for you are saying that you wish to take the right of their bodies away from them...
...a renewed surge of christian idealisms imbued in our legislation...
Whose body?
Really - whose body is it? Does it belong to the woman, or the child? If it belongs to the woman, when does the child get it? If current trends continue, soon the child's body will belong to the woman until the child is two years old, and the woman will have the right to kill it up until then. Sound good?
Here's the deal - I fully support a woman's right to choose. There are a whole heck of a lot of people like me out there (and yes, even women!) who believe that you choose to risk having children when you have sex. Abortion is all about putting off consequences in the name of convenience, not the right to choose. Don't give us that "holier than thou" right-to-choose crap - people can choose when to have sex. We're all too worried about a mother's "right to choose" (as we mistakenly call it) and totally forgetting about our children.
Besides, what kind of respect for life has a society that accepts partial-birth abortions? I can tell you: not much at all.
Wouldn't that be great?
First - doesn't every law have a moral basis? They're based on some group's idea of what's right and wrong, aren't they? Well, most people in this country would like to see laws rooted in their own morality, and that, for the most part, means Christian. Take it or leave it. There's always another country for you.
These are quotes from the Slashdot story Tetris Study Reveals Dreaming's Role In Memory:
From comment 11:
When I worked for Walmart, I would dream about UPC symbols because I was a stockperson for awhile. When I took calculus in college, I constantly dreamed about math. And now, I dream about programming and routing.
From comment 44:
It's pretty funny actually, I get the same thing while cramming for final exams. The night before the exam I usually end up having a nightmare about solving problems...
From comment 64:
When I was taking a lot of math in college I had a dream about wrestling an equation like it was a snake.
From comment 156:&l t;br>
I loaded in Quake and played for the first time in years yesterday. When I went to bed that night, I couldn't get any images to sit still in my head - they were all "jumping" like you when running around in Quake and moving around like crazy. This was before I even fell asleep. I had to keep opening my eyes to get things to settle down.
From comment 170:&l t;br>
Heh recently I started playing FF8 - and once again i remembered why i don't play many games. I start to dream about them (esp when a 6 hour session of sitting there after work playing is the last thing that I do before bed).
And my personal favorite, from comment 118:&l t;br>
I remember when I was hooked on X-Com Apocalypse once. When I started involuntarily getting confused about people in real life moving around when they shouldn't have movement points left, I stopped playing.
Okay, folks. Here's the deal: everything has an effect on you, whether you like it or not. Some concerned people have decided that people under 18 (who don't have full rights as citizens yet - like voting, drinking, etc.) aren't mature enough to make the decision about whether or not they want deal with the effects of violent games.
How about we drop the teenage "I should be able to do anything I like no matter what it does to me or anyone else" attitude and think like grown-ups, here?