Uh.. just because you disagree with him doesn't mean he should be modded down.
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Depending on where it hits it can cause further damage and can suck out the oxygen masks, passengers, or even destroy the plane.
But, the guns they carry are designed not to puncture the aircraft.
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They didn't have buildings with 50,000 people in them, huge airplanes carrying hundreds of people flying at 500 mph, and, oh yeah, they didn't have nuclear weapons.
Their idea of 'terrorism' back then was throwing tea bags off a wooden boat.
God didn't gave that shit to no one. Why can't they just fucking live there together like human beings. Oh yeah, they're brainwashed by their psychopathic leaders.
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I'm not so sure the Taliban could hand him over if they wanted to. I'd assume he's probably pretty heavily guarded by his own militia, and I have to wonder how much better armed the Taliban is than him, and if attacking bin Laden would weaken them so others might attack, they probably wouldn't do it.
They say they will "conduct their own investigation." To me, this is translated as one of two things. Either, "stay the fuck out of our country" or "we will hunt him down and publicly behead him." In any other Islamic country, except for Iraq, this would mean #2, but I'm not so sure here.
If I were that guy I'd be shitting my pants. What a fukken idiot. It's one thing to post that nonsense before you know what's going to happen, but he deserves what he gets for coming back afterwards and posting that "DEATH TO AMERICA" shit. And if he actually did have anything to do with it...
The problem isn't that I see the pop-ups, it's that this person would put them there in the first place.
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Point taken.
Waiting 14 seconds to post..[...x20].. oh now it's a "junk character post" AND NOW I NEED TO WAIT ANOTHER 6 SECONDS and now it's a junk character post AGAIN, deleting periods..
Looks to me like the Arabic site is just gloating over the death of jews... that dance hall thing was what, 3-4 months ago?? While the jerusalem post definitely seems to have a bit of a slant it at least falls under the category of "journalism".
Cost -- consider there are about 4,000 flights/day. Say you pay an air marshall $50k/yr. That's $200M/yr. How much do you think that just the cost of the airplanes alone that crashed is? Certainly the cost is not issue. The problem is finding qualified people and getting them trained and operational.
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...based on reference boards designed by the same (American) companies that designed the chips.
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I agree. This guy's rationalization of how everything America does is evil is probably on par with the terrorists'. What a sick fuck.
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I think I read somewhere that the country the OKC bombers came from did alright for itself. That didn't seem to stop them.
Terrorists are crazy, no matter what excuse they use, they are simply bloodlusted insane fanatics with no respect for life or grasp on reality. Terrorism is an illness.
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extrajudicially... how else do you suggest we deal with this?
Like whoever did this is going to get a fair trial. That's a good one.
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I don't think there's anything Rainbox Six could have done about this.. The only people who had the power to stop this were already aboard those planes. It looks like some unknown heroes on flight 93 may have saved thousands of lives by taking action, however drastic it may have been. I imagine that those aboard the other planes would have had they realized what was going on... one things for sure, even without tighter security restrictions it's going to be a lot harder to "sucessfully" hijack a passenger aircraft. I doubt this same thing will happen again.. but it's frightening to think what the next logical escalation may be.
I tried turning javascript off, but that lasted about an hour. A lot of "fancy" big-company sites don't work without javascript, and I'm not at work or anything so I don't care about porn pop-ups and have yet to see a truly destructive use of javascript, so I just leave it on.
It does disgust me however that he promotes his (at the time I saw it, empty) site related to this tragedy for his personal profit with completely inappropriate pornography ad revenue.
I would also like to add that supposedly the FBI is investigating suspects in south Florida -- the domain registrant info for the google-groups guy (his ISP?) is for Coral Springs, FL (near Ft. Lauderdale)
The reason no one will claim responsibility is that they do not want to be targeted by a very, very pissed off US military. And they don't need to be recognized to get their "point" across - to create terror and threaten our way of life.
Why does stuff like this have to happen? I'm just trying to live my insignificant life peacefully and quietly. I become upset enough over insignificant things without having to deal with stuff like this and all the potential ramifications. Maybe I should move to Antarctica.
I agree. If you have no excuse to not go to work or school tomorrow, then make every effort to go and be as productive as possible. Put in overtime to do your part to make up for the economic impact this will have.
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Yeah, like letting women drive.
Uh.. just because you disagree with him doesn't mean he should be modded down.
Depending on where it hits it can cause further damage and can suck out the oxygen masks, passengers, or even destroy the plane.
But, the guns they carry are designed not to puncture the aircraft.
They didn't have buildings with 50,000 people in them, huge airplanes carrying hundreds of people flying at 500 mph, and, oh yeah, they didn't have nuclear weapons.
Their idea of 'terrorism' back then was throwing tea bags off a wooden boat.
God didn't gave that shit to no one. Why can't they just fucking live there together like human beings. Oh yeah, they're brainwashed by their psychopathic leaders.
I'm not so sure the Taliban could hand him over if they wanted to. I'd assume he's probably pretty heavily guarded by his own militia, and I have to wonder how much better armed the Taliban is than him, and if attacking bin Laden would weaken them so others might attack, they probably wouldn't do it.
They say they will "conduct their own investigation." To me, this is translated as one of two things. Either, "stay the fuck out of our country" or "we will hunt him down and publicly behead him." In any other Islamic country, except for Iraq, this would mean #2, but I'm not so sure here.
If I were that guy I'd be shitting my pants. What a fukken idiot. It's one thing to post that nonsense before you know what's going to happen, but he deserves what he gets for coming back afterwards and posting that "DEATH TO AMERICA" shit. And if he actually did have anything to do with it...
The problem isn't that I see the pop-ups, it's that this person would put them there in the first place.
Waiting 14 seconds to post..[...x20].. oh now it's a "junk character post" AND NOW I NEED TO WAIT ANOTHER 6 SECONDS and now it's a junk character post AGAIN, deleting periods..
Looks to me like the Arabic site is just gloating over the death of jews... that dance hall thing was what, 3-4 months ago?? While the jerusalem post definitely seems to have a bit of a slant it at least falls under the category of "journalism".
Cost -- consider there are about 4,000 flights/day. Say you pay an air marshall $50k/yr. That's $200M/yr. How much do you think that just the cost of the airplanes alone that crashed is? Certainly the cost is not issue. The problem is finding qualified people and getting them trained and operational.
...based on reference boards designed by the same (American) companies that designed the chips.
I agree. This guy's rationalization of how everything America does is evil is probably on par with the terrorists'. What a sick fuck.
I think I read somewhere that the country the OKC bombers came from did alright for itself. That didn't seem to stop them.
Terrorists are crazy, no matter what excuse they use, they are simply bloodlusted insane fanatics with no respect for life or grasp on reality. Terrorism is an illness.
extrajudicially... how else do you suggest we deal with this?
Like whoever did this is going to get a fair trial. That's a good one.
I don't think there's anything Rainbox Six could have done about this.. The only people who had the power to stop this were already aboard those planes. It looks like some unknown heroes on flight 93 may have saved thousands of lives by taking action, however drastic it may have been. I imagine that those aboard the other planes would have had they realized what was going on... one things for sure, even without tighter security restrictions it's going to be a lot harder to "sucessfully" hijack a passenger aircraft. I doubt this same thing will happen again.. but it's frightening to think what the next logical escalation may be.
It does disgust me however that he promotes his (at the time I saw it, empty) site related to this tragedy for his personal profit with completely inappropriate pornography ad revenue.
I would also like to add that supposedly the FBI is investigating suspects in south Florida -- the domain registrant info for the google-groups guy (his ISP?) is for Coral Springs, FL (near Ft. Lauderdale)
The reason no one will claim responsibility is that they do not want to be targeted by a very, very pissed off US military. And they don't need to be recognized to get their "point" across - to create terror and threaten our way of life.
You're right. They obviously don't even respect their own lives, clearly the lives of others are completely meaningless to them.
Oh, the US killed civilians? I suppose you're arguing that the solution is to kill more civilians. That's what it looks like your saying to me.
Why does stuff like this have to happen? I'm just trying to live my insignificant life peacefully and quietly. I become upset enough over insignificant things without having to deal with stuff like this and all the potential ramifications. Maybe I should move to Antarctica.
Yeah, but the innocents aren't the targets.
Maybe another group used those names knowing they would be linked to bin laden?
I agree. If you have no excuse to not go to work or school tomorrow, then make every effort to go and be as productive as possible. Put in overtime to do your part to make up for the economic impact this will have.