Yes, when you use windows explorer it works fine, however it no longer works from within MS Office programs. If you by chance have MS Office installed, and have not installed MS Outlook, you will notice that the "Mail Recipient" option is grayed out.
It DID work in MS Office 2000, I'm not sure about 2002/XP, but probably, like 2003 it no longer works. In effect MS disabled it for non MS programs.
Based on what? the fact that MS monopoly on desktop and office software has given Outlook/Exchange something like a 30% marketshare?
Novell and IBM products (groupwise, notes) definitely are equally good for basic mail/calendering, and notes can do much more for collaboration if you use it properly (in fact, you can negate the need for a fileserver altogether if you want).
You are correct in assessing that currently no equally good free alternatives exist, but alternatives DO exist.
Either Lotus Notes or Lotus Workplace will do that for you.
If you only use the Lotus Notes client (ie. no domino server), and have a shared fileserver, you could make the data directories (where the notes client saves it's data) available on the fileserver. It's simple but has the problem you will not be able to use it off location. If you get domino or workplace this wont be a problem.
With workplace the client is also available for linux btw. With notes only win32 and Mac clients are avail. though the win32 client will somewhat work in wine. Also OO.o functionality is built into workplace so you wont need to use a seperate office suite, and you'll be able to use your workplace server for filesharing too.
For both workplace and domino the server is available for win32, solaris, linux (certified for sles and rhel) and aix.
Of course it's not super cheap, their express offerings are supposed to help though, and if you say you are migrating from something else you'll probably even be able to get upgrade prices.
The only downside I can remember from the trimmed express offerings was no more then 1k users, but if you need 3 calendars I'm guessing that will be a while:)
Otherwise there would be the option of using a web based calender - this would be very simple in useability terms.
I see a lot of people saying go exchange. There is no need, both the Novell and IBM offerings can do more and neither will lock you in.
On win32 you might get some annoyances though - for example in MS Office 2k3 MS removed the ability to use the file -> send -> email option unless you use outlook. Atleast untill Office 2K it worked fine with everything else too.
Anyway, having both run an exchange server and domino server, and evaluated functionality etc. on both I can't see any reason to go with exchange unless you are merging and more then 50% of the users in the merged company use exchange already.
If you go domino be aware that some add-ons are not available on certain platforms. It seems win32 is the primary server platform for domino. AFAIK this is not the case with workplace (which is basically a special websphere appliance btw.).
True, however in this case it's the same story I've been reading in papers since the early 90'es. Not that papers are the perfect source of information either.
However it is generally accepted that hypertext and www was developed at cern, wheres tcp and dns was developed in the us, with tcp being developed by the us military, and later used by us universities.
My point with my original posting wasn't as much who developed what, but more the fact that many have argued in the IP discussions, that knowledge builds upon knowledge, and that software evolution is gradual, and thus for one country to claim ownership over the internet would seem at odds with that. Even if hypertext and www was developed in the us, it would be an odd statement put in that context.
Of course the US is the one country working hardest for IP laws, so in that way it makes sense.
PS: I still believe the IP term is stupid since it mixes things up and makes it unclear exactly what you are talking about.
I just love AC's who don't even bother to check their facts - guess he wanted his flamebait ratings to stick...
From wikipedia on Tim Berners-Lee: "After leaving CERN in 1980 to work at John Poole's Image Computer Systems Ltd, he returned in 1984 as a fellow. By 1989, CERN's internet site was the largest in Europe, and Berners-Lee saw an opportunity to marry hypertext and internet. In his words, "I just had to take the hypertext idea and connect it to the TCP and DNS ideas and -- ta-da! -- the World Wide Web" [1]. He used similar ideas to those underlying the Enquire system to create the World Wide Web, for which he designed and built the first browser (called WorldWideWeb and developed on NeXTSTEP) and the first web server simply called httpd (which was short for HyperText Transfer Protocol daemon)."
From wikipedia on web-browsers: "Tim Berners-Lee, who pioneered the use of hypertext for sharing information, created the first web browser, named WorldWideWeb, in 1990 and introduced it to colleagues at CERN in March 1991. Since then the development of web browsers has been inseparably intertwined with the development of the web itself."
Hypertext and the hyertext to tcp/dns connection was made at cern, that he later made the w3c in massachussets is a totally different story.
Of course, trolling AC's don't care about facts....
"is similar to the BSD license while the second, Ms-CL (Microsoft Community License), is based on the Mozilla Public License"
Yes, just like MS Html is similar to html, MS.NET is similar to Java, MS Active Directory is similar to Novell Directory except not really ldap compliant, MS Java is similar to java etc.
About time they started making similar licenses too:)
As far as I can tell, they are just annoyed that you are not helping with updating your own patches.
This would improve the speed with which the X11 Mac version is released and thus could also benefit the neooffice project.
The steal part is in quotation marks since the author doesn't believe you are stealing (or for that matter doing anything illegal), but rather because he looks upon what you are doing as a sorts of a free ride.
Of course you are free to disagree with him on that, but what you just speewed seemed more like putting words he didn't write in his mouth.
Why in the world should a Washington judge have any jurisdiction over a chineese person employed in a chineese division of a company - would the US really accept if some US citizen was sued in Beijing even if he was employed in a US division of a chineese corporation?
I mean, what if the CEO of the US part of Lenovo (ie the old IBM computer division boss) quit and joined HP, would the US accept that Beijing jurisdiction applied? I think not, it's not like the US even can recognize an international court.
To me it is logical that since the person in question is employed in china and works for their chineese division that the entire case should be under chineese jurisdiction regardless of the fact that both Google and MSFT are US companies.
Anyone know of any reference manager that works with OpenOffice, GOffice or KOffice rather then LateX.
I'm just guessing there would be someone who'd like that somewhere.
I know I could use one for OpenOffice, would pave the way for implementing OpenOffice 2.0 (when it's ready) at my work, otherwise I'll be stuck supporting various iterations of MS Office.
The line of poverty is different for different countries. For example a family with 2 adults and 2 children in philipines would be able to get by for 130-165 euro/month. Whereas a swedish family with 2 adults and 2 kids would need something in the order of 800-900 euro/month. This accounts for food, housing, a little savings for clothes and transportation.
Thus if the swedish family only made 500 euro it would be considered poor, while the filipino family would be considered relatively wealthy.
Also it is quite possible for someone to just be able to afford a PC because they need it - maybe it's even second hand. Or they might have lost their job etc.
And it is not unreasonable to be thinking about poor americans - consider that the US is the developed western country with the most poor people percentage wise.
Having read page one and not seen it noted, I'd just like to point out that at the bottom of the article is links to 4 previous articles where Mac user base is estimated at 8-12%. I find this pretty reasonable.
Mac's are pretty expensive, and for most intents and purposes they should be able to run for 5 years or so. It is not my personal experiance that unices demand as much more performance as windows does from upgrades, as well as the subtle point that most mac users are not gamers (ie. most computer gamers are likely windows users or own a console).
Also there is a larger 2nd hand market for macs. A PowerMac from 2 years ago will still be a pretty nice machine for a lot of people - while a 2 year old dell precision machine will feel dated with windows xp sp2.
Anyway, I personally believe that Windows installed userbase is someplace around 80-85 worldwie, and I don't think it's a stretch that Mac has 10-12 percent - afterall it is a bit more mainstream then os/2, linux, bsd or sunos, which would account for the rest 5-10 percent.
Like others I dont believe for a second that Apple will switch OS X to x86 or EMT or x86-64.
They might want to make a hybrid box for people who need to emulate wintel on mac - for example popping a mobile p4 1.5GHz inside a high-end mac or some such. I dont believe they will, the extra price is usually not worth it for most customers.
They might be looking at Intel chips for the next generation iPod with colour LCD and videoplayback - that I would see as much more likely assumption.
Indeed, a TS CAL is not very expensive - if bought in bundles of 25 or 50 it is very cheap - however, you will need windows licenses for all the computers that connect to TS as well (or atleast you did last time I checked the licensing) - of course if your old computers came with a win9x license that may suffice (I cannot say for sure).
Citrix of course is not much different - but a bit more pricey - imho it's worth the extra cost though.
It does work sometimes with my distro - however occasionally it will kernel panic on boot.
Wrt windows, I've seen plenty of problems there, though install has worked almost every time. Most often cause of a trashed system for me has been applying service packs and/or patches for windows.
Actually, it is just the dollar that is worth less, not the euro, which is worth about the same - which is the very reason that lots of countries - especially in Asia are making their currency less dependant on the dollar.
The whole point is, that the dollar is generally valued higher because of the high dependence on the dollar worldwide - less dependence on the dollar means the dollars value will steadily decrease untill it reaches a new, lower, natural level.
In fact, there has been several opec countries commenting about this and stating that if this continues they might start using the EURO instead of the US Dollar for oil trade. I don't expect this anytime soon, if for no other reason the dependence several oil producing countries have on the US - however I do expect that unless the US improve they economy and the dollar continues to decline it will happen at some point.
On the note about how fast the EU economy will grow - obviously it is not possible to predict with a high degree of certainty - for example a big terrorist attack on Frankfurt, Berlin and/or Paris would probably set back the EU economy (though this will also affect the US, probably not as much) - it is consensus that the EU economy will out grow the US economy - untill 9/11 most economists where pretty sure this would happen before 2010 - this has been adjusted to sometime between 2010 and 2020.
if we go further it is feasible that the chineese economy will become the biggest of the 3 during this century, and likely somewhere in the 2050-2070 timeframe.
Both the US and the EU are gearing their production towards specialized and value added production, and letting the not so developed countries provide the things they need for producing this value added product or specialized or highly technical product - thus the difference in value is not that important, though to some degree it does hurt EU businesses. Increased dependence on the EURO and decreased dependence on the US dollar however helps EU businesses.
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Yes, when you use windows explorer it works fine, however it no longer works from within MS Office programs.
If you by chance have MS Office installed, and have not installed MS Outlook, you will notice that the "Mail Recipient" option is grayed out.
It DID work in MS Office 2000, I'm not sure about 2002/XP, but probably, like 2003 it no longer works. In effect MS disabled it for non MS programs.
probably - tho the post you just answered was an answer to an AC post. Guess you couls'nt be bothered to check that....
Based on what? the fact that MS monopoly on desktop and office software has given Outlook/Exchange something like a 30% marketshare?
Novell and IBM products (groupwise, notes) definitely are equally good for basic mail/calendering, and notes can do much more for collaboration if you use it properly (in fact, you can negate the need for a fileserver altogether if you want).
You are correct in assessing that currently no equally good free alternatives exist, but alternatives DO exist.
Either Lotus Notes or Lotus Workplace will do that for you.
:)
If you only use the Lotus Notes client (ie. no domino server), and have a shared fileserver, you could make the data directories (where the notes client saves it's data) available on the fileserver. It's simple but has the problem you will not be able to use it off location. If you get domino or workplace this wont be a problem.
With workplace the client is also available for linux btw. With notes only win32 and Mac clients are avail. though the win32 client will somewhat work in wine. Also OO.o functionality is built into workplace so you wont need to use a seperate office suite, and you'll be able to use your workplace server for filesharing too.
For both workplace and domino the server is available for win32, solaris, linux (certified for sles and rhel) and aix.
Of course it's not super cheap, their express offerings are supposed to help though, and if you say you are migrating from something else you'll probably even be able to get upgrade prices.
The only downside I can remember from the trimmed express offerings was no more then 1k users, but if you need 3 calendars I'm guessing that will be a while
Otherwise there would be the option of using a web based calender - this would be very simple in useability terms.
I see a lot of people saying go exchange. There is no need, both the Novell and IBM offerings can do more and neither will lock you in.
On win32 you might get some annoyances though - for example in MS Office 2k3 MS removed the ability to use the file -> send -> email option unless you use outlook. Atleast untill Office 2K it worked fine with everything else too.
Anyway, having both run an exchange server and domino server, and evaluated functionality etc. on both I can't see any reason to go with exchange unless you are merging and more then 50% of the users in the merged company use exchange already.
If you go domino be aware that some add-ons are not available on certain platforms. It seems win32 is the primary server platform for domino. AFAIK this is not the case with workplace (which is basically a special websphere appliance btw.).
True, however in this case it's the same story I've been reading in papers since the early 90'es.
Not that papers are the perfect source of information either.
However it is generally accepted that hypertext and www was developed at cern, wheres tcp and dns was developed in the us, with tcp being developed by the us military, and later used by us universities.
My point with my original posting wasn't as much who developed what, but more the fact that many have argued in the IP discussions, that knowledge builds upon knowledge, and that software evolution is gradual, and thus for one country to claim ownership over the internet would seem at odds with that. Even if hypertext and www was developed in the us, it would be an odd statement put in that context.
Of course the US is the one country working hardest for IP laws, so in that way it makes sense.
PS: I still believe the IP term is stupid since it mixes things up and makes it unclear exactly what you are talking about.
I just love AC's who don't even bother to check their facts - guess he wanted his flamebait ratings to stick...
From wikipedia on Tim Berners-Lee:
"After leaving CERN in 1980 to work at John Poole's Image Computer Systems Ltd, he returned in 1984 as a fellow. By 1989, CERN's internet site was the largest in Europe, and Berners-Lee saw an opportunity to marry hypertext and internet. In his words, "I just had to take the hypertext idea and connect it to the TCP and DNS ideas and -- ta-da! -- the World Wide Web" [1]. He used similar ideas to those underlying the Enquire system to create the World Wide Web, for which he designed and built the first browser (called WorldWideWeb and developed on NeXTSTEP) and the first web server simply called httpd (which was short for HyperText Transfer Protocol daemon)."
From wikipedia on web-browsers:
"Tim Berners-Lee, who pioneered the use of hypertext for sharing information, created the first web browser, named WorldWideWeb, in 1990 and introduced it to colleagues at CERN in March 1991. Since then the development of web browsers has been inseparably intertwined with the development of the web itself."
Hypertext and the hyertext to tcp/dns connection was made at cern, that he later made the w3c in massachussets is a totally different story.
Of course, trolling AC's don't care about facts....
Okay fine, you keep tcp/ip, then we europeans keep http and www thank you very much.
"is similar to the BSD license while the second, Ms-CL (Microsoft Community License), is based on the Mozilla Public License"
.NET is similar to Java, MS Active Directory is similar to Novell Directory except not really ldap compliant, MS Java is similar to java etc.
:)
Yes, just like MS Html is similar to html, MS
About time they started making similar licenses too
To me it seems you got it wrong.
As far as I can tell, they are just annoyed that you are not helping with updating your own patches.
This would improve the speed with which the X11 Mac version is released and thus could also benefit the neooffice project.
The steal part is in quotation marks since the author doesn't believe you are stealing (or for that matter doing anything illegal), but rather because he looks upon what you are doing as a sorts of a free ride.
Of course you are free to disagree with him on that, but what you just speewed seemed more like putting words he didn't write in his mouth.
Why in the world should a Washington judge have any jurisdiction over a chineese person employed in a chineese division of a company - would the US really accept if some US citizen was sued in Beijing even if he was employed in a US division of a chineese corporation?
I mean, what if the CEO of the US part of Lenovo (ie the old IBM computer division boss) quit and joined HP, would the US accept that Beijing jurisdiction applied? I think not, it's not like the US even can recognize an international court.
To me it is logical that since the person in question is employed in china and works for their chineese division that the entire case should be under chineese jurisdiction regardless of the fact that both Google and MSFT are US companies.
what codec am I missing, totem mplayer and vlc all refused to play sound - according to totem the mp4 files does not even have sound included....
The obvious answer is to check if there is a similar project already GPL'ed and then work on that rather then inventing something new.
In that case the university would have to tell you to stop working on the project which is unlikely.
If there isn't you might consider doing the first parts at home and making that part GPL and then continuing on it at work later on.
hey, I'm not medium rare, it's damn hot here so I'm pretty sure I'm well done by now!
I decided to do a little researching on my own and found that there is a project to make referencing etc. easier in OOo which can be found here:
http://bibliographic.openoffice.org/
Looking thru that it seems the best bet is bibus which can be found here:
http://bibus-biblio.sourceforge.net/
Anyone know of any reference manager that works with OpenOffice, GOffice or KOffice rather then LateX.
I'm just guessing there would be someone who'd like that somewhere.
I know I could use one for OpenOffice, would pave the way for implementing OpenOffice 2.0 (when it's ready) at my work, otherwise I'll be stuck supporting various iterations of MS Office.
Seems reasonable - they will need to be able to release SUN stable versions from time to time.
They might also incorporate some of the code into other projects where it makes sense etc.
I don't see how this is any worse then the NPL?
The line of poverty is different for different countries. For example a family with 2 adults and 2 children in philipines would be able to get by for 130-165 euro/month. Whereas a swedish family with 2 adults and 2 kids would need something in the order of 800-900 euro/month. This accounts for food, housing, a little savings for clothes and transportation.
Thus if the swedish family only made 500 euro it would be considered poor, while the filipino family would be considered relatively wealthy.
Also it is quite possible for someone to just be able to afford a PC because they need it - maybe it's even second hand. Or they might have lost their job etc.
And it is not unreasonable to be thinking about poor americans - consider that the US is the developed western country with the most poor people percentage wise.
Indeed they note it will take them 5 years more to make a proper CLI even though they started in 2001.
Kinda makes you think about how much windows is lagging behind unix on the serverside of things.
Having read page one and not seen it noted, I'd just like to point out that at the bottom of the article is links to 4 previous articles where Mac user base is estimated at 8-12%. I find this pretty reasonable.
Mac's are pretty expensive, and for most intents and purposes they should be able to run for 5 years or so. It is not my personal experiance that unices demand as much more performance as windows does from upgrades, as well as the subtle point that most mac users are not gamers (ie. most computer gamers are likely windows users or own a console).
Also there is a larger 2nd hand market for macs. A PowerMac from 2 years ago will still be a pretty nice machine for a lot of people - while a 2 year old dell precision machine will feel dated with windows xp sp2.
Anyway, I personally believe that Windows installed userbase is someplace around 80-85 worldwie, and I don't think it's a stretch that Mac has 10-12 percent - afterall it is a bit more mainstream then os/2, linux, bsd or sunos, which would account for the rest 5-10 percent.
That pretty much is the point - if you are connecting to windows boxes, rdp is better since it is faster and more responsive.
If you are connecting to multiple boxes vnc is better in that you only need one client for multiple kinds of boxes.
You have a lot of very good points.
Like others I dont believe for a second that Apple will switch OS X to x86 or EMT or x86-64.
They might want to make a hybrid box for people who need to emulate wintel on mac - for example popping a mobile p4 1.5GHz inside a high-end mac or some such. I dont believe they will, the extra price is usually not worth it for most customers.
They might be looking at Intel chips for the next generation iPod with colour LCD and videoplayback - that I would see as much more likely assumption.
Indeed, a TS CAL is not very expensive - if bought in bundles of 25 or 50 it is very cheap - however, you will need windows licenses for all the computers that connect to TS as well (or atleast you did last time I checked the licensing) - of course if your old computers came with a win9x license that may suffice (I cannot say for sure).
Citrix of course is not much different - but a bit more pricey - imho it's worth the extra cost though.
I always liked the remaked transformer pretender slogan:
:)
"Pretenders hide, Intel inside"
It does work sometimes with my distro - however occasionally it will kernel panic on boot.
Wrt windows, I've seen plenty of problems there, though install has worked almost every time. Most often cause of a trashed system for me has been applying service packs and/or patches for windows.
Actually, it is just the dollar that is worth less, not the euro, which is worth about the same - which is the very reason that lots of countries - especially in Asia are making their currency less dependant on the dollar.
The whole point is, that the dollar is generally valued higher because of the high dependence on the dollar worldwide - less dependence on the dollar means the dollars value will steadily decrease untill it reaches a new, lower, natural level.
In fact, there has been several opec countries commenting about this and stating that if this continues they might start using the EURO instead of the US Dollar for oil trade. I don't expect this anytime soon, if for no other reason the dependence several oil producing countries have on the US - however I do expect that unless the US improve they economy and the dollar continues to decline it will happen at some point.
On the note about how fast the EU economy will grow - obviously it is not possible to predict with a high degree of certainty - for example a big terrorist attack on Frankfurt, Berlin and/or Paris would probably set back the EU economy (though this will also affect the US, probably not as much) - it is consensus that the EU economy will out grow the US economy - untill 9/11 most economists where pretty sure this would happen before 2010 - this has been adjusted to sometime between 2010 and 2020.
if we go further it is feasible that the chineese economy will become the biggest of the 3 during this century, and likely somewhere in the 2050-2070 timeframe.
Both the US and the EU are gearing their production towards specialized and value added production, and letting the not so developed countries provide the things they need for producing this value added product or specialized or highly technical product - thus the difference in value is not that important, though to some degree it does hurt EU businesses. Increased dependence on the EURO and decreased dependence on the US dollar however helps EU businesses.