Please cite examples where "competent" Linux administrators put 2.2 or 2.4 into production use the moment they were released. Ahhh, the power of a qualifier.
If they weren't ready to be used in production systems, they should have retained the 2.1.x and 2.3.x (or 2.2-pre and 2.4-pre) tags respectively.
If you say that a kernel series is stable, I'm going to take you at your word. I can almost forgive the ext2fs bug, but changing VITAL kernel structures like the VM subsystem is naughty bad.
If you were about to hire somebody to maintain your own branch of the Linux kernel to solve all the world's problems and Linux's shortcomings, I think that "ease of use and install" is probably not a concern for you.
You can come back to the grownups' table when you have a point to make that's germane to the conversation at hand.
Considering he bought a huge PC cluster, I'd imagine his applications are quite specific to Linux. Would you buy a machine for doing VB development if it didn't support Windows?
Perhaps they wanted a huge PC cluster because that's still the only way Linux scales with any degree of success. People are great at customizing the question to the answer they want to give.
People do just that, though, just like people list "Must run on Windows" as a requirement. It's stupid then, too.
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It's not possible to argue against Linux? Not to be an ass or anything, but FreeBSD is just as malleable as Linux, and has the bonus of not falling under the syphilis of software licenses.
Please cite examples where competent Windows administrators who kept up with Windows patches were stymied by a Windows problem that kept mission-critical systems down.
For every example you provide, counter-examples can be found for Linux. The VM upheaval in early 2.4 (so-called "stable" series). The ext2fs corruption in early 2.2 (once again, so-called "stable" series).
Anybody with blind faith to The One True Operating System doesn't understand very much about computing at all. Yes, Linux is malleable to the point of silliness, but why make a new hammer out of clay when Microsoft and IBM already have steel hammers that are have a much longer, and more proven, track record?
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So you based this *entire* project one one operating system? Not based on whether or not it does the job properly, with a minimum of downtime or hassle, but exclusively on whether or not it runs Linux?
You're fucked. Cash your chips in now while you still can. You have no business being in charge of the computing infrastructure of a company.
You might have a point if there wasn't a glut of shitty, shitty, shitty guitarists who think that since they know a couple of chords, they're automatically musicians when all they can do is play Stairway to Heaven.
But there is.
So you lose.
Typography, like music, *does* take years to gain sufficient skill. Also, like music, there are some people who have a gift for it, and others who, no matter how hard they might try, will never be any good at it.
I've sent my PowerBook G4 in twice (once right when I got it in February of 2001 because Airport wouldn't work, and again three months ago because the LCD backlight was dying). The first time, they replaced the motherboard and had it back to me almost immediately. The second time, they had parts backordered, but when I got it back, they replaced not only the LCD backlight, but the motherboard, trackpad, and part of the actual frame.
I've found AppleCare to be worth every penny I paid for it.
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and anyway, they heat things up in microwaves in planes which would cause much larger problems.
Microwave ovens are shielded better than 802.11 cards.
(For the record, you cannot leach off of 802.11b networks in the air. The distance is too great, I guess:-(
You're a brilliant one, aren't you. Apple Airport cards have a marketing maximum range of 300ft. Realistic max is about 200-250. A far cry from the cruising altitude of any passenger plane. I'm amazed that you felt the need to state this "for the record."
I would think that this is partially illegal to install software on a person computer without that persons consent.
I just saw one of these today. I forget where, exactly. I got asked if I wanted to download something. I said no. Nothing got installed without my consent.
Do you really want ads to look like they belong on Slashdot? Take a look at MSNBC. Their ads are huge and ugly yet somehow they belong. Why do they belong? Because we expect a company such as them to try to sell crap to us.
No, they look like they belong on MSNBC because the text wraps around them. They don't just sit out there naked between the story and the comments.
Heh. You probably use OmniWeb only because it's Cocoa and renders text using CoreGraphics. You probably think that Cocoa applications are somehow more "native" on Mac OS X than Carbon ones*. Hell, don't let me just throw out suppositions. Tell me why.
do we really need people injecting a MS biase on every stinking story?
Comments that are favorable of Microsoft products do not necessarily indicate any sort of "Microsoft Bias" in any way, shape, or form.
I use Windows 2000, Windows XP, Mac OS X, and FreeBSD. I enjoy reading articles about all of the above operating systems--almost as much as I enjoy reading the comments of single-minded, short-sighted OS zealots about how their OS is the ONE TRUE OS.
Your problem is that you're reading MacNN forums. Those who post there are just slightly less intelligent than those who inhabit ZDNet TalkBack, and they're less likely to understand shell scripting than RMS is to shave his natty beard.
because it is contrary to what the community of web authors want.
I had no idea that content was published on the WWW for the author's edification. I was under the assumption that it was there for the reader's benefit. My mistake.
Uh...if you don't make your changes available (no requirement to), there's little chance of your changes being stolen from you.
Thanks for playing. I'd give you a consolation prize, but, frankly, you don't deserve one.
If they weren't ready to be used in production systems, they should have retained the 2.1.x and 2.3.x (or 2.2-pre and 2.4-pre) tags respectively.
If you say that a kernel series is stable, I'm going to take you at your word. I can almost forgive the ext2fs bug, but changing VITAL kernel structures like the VM subsystem is naughty bad.
If you were about to hire somebody to maintain your own branch of the Linux kernel to solve all the world's problems and Linux's shortcomings, I think that "ease of use and install" is probably not a concern for you.
You can come back to the grownups' table when you have a point to make that's germane to the conversation at hand.
Perhaps they wanted a huge PC cluster because that's still the only way Linux scales with any degree of success. People are great at customizing the question to the answer they want to give.
People do just that, though, just like people list "Must run on Windows" as a requirement. It's stupid then, too.
It's not possible to argue against Linux? Not to be an ass or anything, but FreeBSD is just as malleable as Linux, and has the bonus of not falling under the syphilis of software licenses.
Please cite examples where competent Windows administrators who kept up with Windows patches were stymied by a Windows problem that kept mission-critical systems down.
For every example you provide, counter-examples can be found for Linux. The VM upheaval in early 2.4 (so-called "stable" series). The ext2fs corruption in early 2.2 (once again, so-called "stable" series).
Anybody with blind faith to The One True Operating System doesn't understand very much about computing at all. Yes, Linux is malleable to the point of silliness, but why make a new hammer out of clay when Microsoft and IBM already have steel hammers that are have a much longer, and more proven, track record?
So you based this *entire* project one one operating system? Not based on whether or not it does the job properly, with a minimum of downtime or hassle, but exclusively on whether or not it runs Linux?
You're fucked. Cash your chips in now while you still can. You have no business being in charge of the computing infrastructure of a company.
And that average *never* changes from year to year.
Because the Earth is always the same distance from the sun.
Look at the title, retard.
"Microsoft Typography Withdraws Free Web Fonts"
People are looking for replacements.
For on-screen fonts.
Party invitations and for-sale signs are both examples of uses of printed fonts.
This discussion, however, is about fonts intended to be viewed primarily on a computer screen.
Your examples are invalid.
You might have a point if there wasn't a glut of shitty, shitty, shitty guitarists who think that since they know a couple of chords, they're automatically musicians when all they can do is play Stairway to Heaven.
But there is.
So you lose.
Typography, like music, *does* take years to gain sufficient skill. Also, like music, there are some people who have a gift for it, and others who, no matter how hard they might try, will never be any good at it.
I've sent my PowerBook G4 in twice (once right when I got it in February of 2001 because Airport wouldn't work, and again three months ago because the LCD backlight was dying). The first time, they replaced the motherboard and had it back to me almost immediately. The second time, they had parts backordered, but when I got it back, they replaced not only the LCD backlight, but the motherboard, trackpad, and part of the actual frame.
I've found AppleCare to be worth every penny I paid for it.
You call 1-800-APL-CARE and get it replaced for free within one year--three if you buy AppleCare.
Yes. Let's drop it...after I make this one point: :P
Apple has no OS monopoly with which it can leverage its media player to make it the dominant one.
OpenDoc was always an optional install.
Microwave ovens are shielded better than 802.11 cards.
You're a brilliant one, aren't you. Apple Airport cards have a marketing maximum range of 300ft. Realistic max is about 200-250. A far cry from the cruising altitude of any passenger plane. I'm amazed that you felt the need to state this "for the record."
I just saw one of these today. I forget where, exactly. I got asked if I wanted to download something. I said no. Nothing got installed without my consent.
Thanks for playing, though.
No, they look like they belong on MSNBC because the text wraps around them. They don't just sit out there naked between the story and the comments.
Heh. You probably use OmniWeb only because it's Cocoa and renders text using CoreGraphics. You probably think that Cocoa applications are somehow more "native" on Mac OS X than Carbon ones*. Hell, don't let me just throw out suppositions. Tell me why.
Comments that are favorable of Microsoft products do not necessarily indicate any sort of "Microsoft Bias" in any way, shape, or form.
I use Windows 2000, Windows XP, Mac OS X, and FreeBSD. I enjoy reading articles about all of the above operating systems--almost as much as I enjoy reading the comments of single-minded, short-sighted OS zealots about how their OS is the ONE TRUE OS.
C'mon, kids. Time to leave Middle School.
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*Hint: You're wrong.
Your problem is that you're reading MacNN forums. Those who post there are just slightly less intelligent than those who inhabit ZDNet TalkBack, and they're less likely to understand shell scripting than RMS is to shave his natty beard.
We just started doing our NT 4 Workstation to Windows 2000 migration on all our desktops.
Today.
The irony escaped everybody but me.
Part of the 1997 deal was a cross-licensing agreement whereby both companies can use each others' patents.
I had no idea that content was published on the WWW for the author's edification. I was under the assumption that it was there for the reader's benefit. My mistake.
Thanks for clearing that one up.
God forbid you fucking tone-deaf "musicians" learn other chords.
Come back when you figure Giant Steps out.