LHC was a motivation for Grids in the same way that CERN's problem of sharing files was a motivation for Sir TBL to create the Web. But, being a motivation does not mean you invented or "pioneered" the freaking stuff. Grids were around in many forms waaaay before CERN decided to go for it.
If anything CERN has achieved in Grids, it is to stunt its growth. It sucked a huge amount of funding from EU for the LCG (LHC Computing Grid) is huge. The LCG is a grid designed by and for control freaks. Many sensible design features (distributed control, proper resource allocation and scheduling, transaction safety, fairness among users) for distributed systems were left out of the LCG. Why? Because it was primarily designed by fucking physicists with a lot of money and who thought they knew waaaay more than computer scientists.
It's no wonder that the industry lost its patience with the grid community and went on to clouds. That's what grids could've been.
Hey CERN, here's a message. Why don't you limit yourselves to claiming credit for physics stuff while computer scientists take distributed systems forward. Fucking morons taking credit for inventing the Web and pioneering Grids. Bah!
I am an Indian and I believe that there will not be a manned mission to the Moon from my country in the near future. Chandraayan 1 and 2 (the one with the rover) are probably going to be the only moon missions that India will *solely* undertake. These will build our capability to launch robotic space probes and that would be it.
Dont get me wrong, I do not doubt the ability of ISRO to eventually put a man on the moon. But, I doubt its ability to convince our notoriously populist and short-sighted politicos to invest the enormous amount of money and political will required to eventuate a successful, manned Moon landing. Those who disagree can take a look at the antics of the Leftist scum over the US-India nuclear deal. Anyway, what India and ISRO, in particular, have achieved so far is inspite of the politicians and not due to it. But, I digress.
I fervently hope that with the (fingers crossed, touchwood) success of Chandraayan 1 and 2, ISRO will be able to partner with ESA, NASA or JAXA or all of them in an international manned Moon mission designed to result in a Moon base. Also, given the current economic and political conditions in every space-faring country except China, the probability of this happening is quite high. I think the notion of a "space race" at present is inherently silly and that there is a need for humanity to get its act together if we have to extend into space.
I am feeding the troll (sigh!) but well here it goes. I am an Indian and you, AC, are full of crap.
India may be a democracy, but it is not a Western nation. Being a democracy does not mean that a nation is a democracy. Look at Singapore.
The first sign that the AC is out of his league. Yes, India is not a perfect democracy ( who is anyway? ) but comparing it to Singapore - a small island nation whose citizens themselves consider the polls to be a sham (wiki link here ) - is a complete joke. Come on, at least India does not have a one-party government that tries to sue the opposition into oblivion.
India, as any other democracy, has its share of nutjobs. The BVS and Shiv Sena, as has been pointed out by other posters, are essentially groups of uneducated riff-raff that try to present themselves as nationalists to distinguish themselves from common thugs ( which they are in reality ). They have little influence beyond Mumbai.
In the India of today, honor killings are so widespread that it is a national pasttime. An honor killing is murdering a wife because her family has not provided sufficient dowry to the husband.
No my dear AC. Honor killings are not what you presented (link). They are women that are killed if they are suspected to have brought dishonor to the family (unwanted pregnancy, etc.). They are extremely rare in India and are more a part of life of our friends across the border in Pakistan ( and other such Islamic societies) than ours.
What you did state about dowry killings(link) is exaggerated. While it is true that bride burning is still present in India, due to many high-profile convictions in the recent past, it is abhorred widely and the burden of proof is on the suspected in-laws. However, unfortunately, dowry as a social phenomenon still exists in India.:(
Finally, the Indians are aggressively building nuclear weapons.
Having been attacked by 2 totalitarian neighbours (who are allied strongly with each other) 4 times in the last 50 years is not a good enough excuse ? Then, pray, why do the United States and Russia, which are far removed from their enemies, have the largest nuclear arsenals in the world ? Anyway, having nuclear devices without a proper delivery system can hardly be considered aggressive.
So, India is a democracy, but it is not a Western nation.
So, you took all this effort to point out the obvious. As we say in north India, shabaash mere puttar ! ( well done, my son !)
Coming back to the topic, as I said before, this is a very local event. The Economic Times is HQ-ed in Mumbai which is why it has received more prominence than necessary. From my personal experience, I can speak of places with worse kinds of restrictions in India. There are hamlets controlled by some political party/ religious group/ communists where information from the outside world, in any form, is not allowed unless they are filtered by the party thugs. But, I would be more worried by the fact that most of rural India, if they ever cared, would not be able to connect to orkut because of the pathetic infrastructure in those parts, rather than being banned from doing so by a collection of retards.
"So far nothing noteworthy has come out of this massive project"
Dismissed a trend-setting project with just that one line. Of course, it does not matter that SETI@Home showed the power of volunteer computing for the first time, led to new advances in distributed computing, motivated Grid computing and PlanetLab among others and spun off BOINC, an open source project that serves as a base for similar @Home projects.
But, of course, it no find me any ALIEN!!! Bah,
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LHC was a motivation for Grids in the same way that CERN's problem of sharing files was a motivation for Sir TBL to create the Web. But, being a motivation does not mean you invented or "pioneered" the freaking stuff. Grids were around in many forms waaaay before CERN decided to go for it.
If anything CERN has achieved in Grids, it is to stunt its growth. It sucked a huge amount of funding from EU for the LCG (LHC Computing Grid) is huge. The LCG is a grid designed by and for control freaks. Many sensible design features (distributed control, proper resource allocation and scheduling, transaction safety, fairness among users) for distributed systems were left out of the LCG. Why? Because it was primarily designed by fucking physicists with a lot of money and who thought they knew waaaay more than computer scientists.
It's no wonder that the industry lost its patience with the grid community and went on to clouds. That's what grids could've been.
Hey CERN, here's a message. Why don't you limit yourselves to claiming credit for physics stuff while computer scientists take distributed systems forward. Fucking morons taking credit for inventing the Web and pioneering Grids. Bah!
I am an Indian and I believe that there will not be a manned mission to the Moon from my country in the near future. Chandraayan 1 and 2 (the one with the rover) are probably going to be the only moon missions that India will *solely* undertake. These will build our capability to launch robotic space probes and that would be it.
Dont get me wrong, I do not doubt the ability of ISRO to eventually put a man on the moon. But, I doubt its ability to convince our notoriously populist and short-sighted politicos to invest the enormous amount of money and political will required to eventuate a successful, manned Moon landing. Those who disagree can take a look at the antics of the Leftist scum over the US-India nuclear deal. Anyway, what India and ISRO, in particular, have achieved so far is inspite of the politicians and not due to it. But, I digress.
I fervently hope that with the (fingers crossed, touchwood) success of Chandraayan 1 and 2, ISRO will be able to partner with ESA, NASA or JAXA or all of them in an international manned Moon mission designed to result in a Moon base. Also, given the current economic and political conditions in every space-faring country except China, the probability of this happening is quite high. I think the notion of a "space race" at present is inherently silly and that there is a need for humanity to get its act together if we have to extend into space.
India may be a democracy, but it is not a Western nation. Being a democracy does not mean that a nation is a democracy. Look at Singapore.
The first sign that the AC is out of his league. Yes, India is not a perfect democracy ( who is anyway? ) but comparing it to Singapore - a small island nation whose citizens themselves consider the polls to be a sham (wiki link here ) - is a complete joke. Come on, at least India does not have a one-party government that tries to sue the opposition into oblivion.
India, as any other democracy, has its share of nutjobs. The BVS and Shiv Sena, as has been pointed out by other posters, are essentially groups of uneducated riff-raff that try to present themselves as nationalists to distinguish themselves from common thugs ( which they are in reality ). They have little influence beyond Mumbai.
In the India of today, honor killings are so widespread that it is a national pasttime. An honor killing is murdering a wife because her family has not provided sufficient dowry to the husband.
No my dear AC. Honor killings are not what you presented (link). They are women that are killed if they are suspected to have brought dishonor to the family (unwanted pregnancy, etc.). They are extremely rare in India and are more a part of life of our friends across the border in Pakistan ( and other such Islamic societies) than ours.
What you did state about dowry killings(link) is exaggerated. While it is true that bride burning is still present in India, due to many high-profile convictions in the recent past, it is abhorred widely and the burden of proof is on the suspected in-laws. However, unfortunately, dowry as a social phenomenon still exists in India.:(
Finally, the Indians are aggressively building nuclear weapons.
Having been attacked by 2 totalitarian neighbours (who are allied strongly with each other) 4 times in the last 50 years is not a good enough excuse ? Then, pray, why do the United States and Russia, which are far removed from their enemies, have the largest nuclear arsenals in the world ? Anyway, having nuclear devices without a proper delivery system can hardly be considered aggressive.
So, India is a democracy, but it is not a Western nation.
So, you took all this effort to point out the obvious. As we say in north India, shabaash mere puttar ! ( well done, my son !)
Coming back to the topic, as I said before, this is a very local event. The Economic Times is HQ-ed in Mumbai which is why it has received more prominence than necessary. From my personal experience, I can speak of places with worse kinds of restrictions in India. There are hamlets controlled by some political party/ religious group/ communists where information from the outside world, in any form, is not allowed unless they are filtered by the party thugs. But, I would be more worried by the fact that most of rural India, if they ever cared, would not be able to connect to orkut because of the pathetic infrastructure in those parts, rather than being banned from doing so by a collection of retards.
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"So far nothing noteworthy has come out of this massive project"
Dismissed a trend-setting project with just that one line. Of course, it does not matter that SETI@Home showed the power of volunteer computing for the first time, led to new advances in distributed computing, motivated Grid computing and PlanetLab among others and spun off BOINC, an open source project that serves as a base for similar @Home projects.
But, of course, it no find me any ALIEN!!! Bah,
Slashdot is as stupid for allowing his tripe to be posted here as Forbes is in employing him