Linus is fully aware people add code to the kernel and deploy it internally without his approval.
The way i understand it, alot of features are kernel patches for years before they're integrated into an official release, and there's nothing preventing an individual or corporation from using these patches. More proof of Linus' open-minded approach: Caldera is developing a UnixWare kernel with Linux APIs to possibly replace the Linux kernel, and Linus welcomes the competition.
"Is Linus Killing Linux?" may be a sexy headline, but it's also deceptive and wrong.
I'm the webmaster of a Linux website and AOLsearch ranks me number one under the keywords "big flabby butt". Well, unless someone's willing to take a picture of my fat ass, the visitor is going to be sorely dissapointed!
A fantastic educational site for kids
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I believe the perfect place to start would be LinuxforKids.com. You'll find links to Open Source educational software and Linux distributions like Debian Jr. that are designed with children in mind.
It's New Years Eve and i have all sorts of craziness going on in my house at the moment, but i'm going to reply to your posting anyway...
If open source efforts want to compete with.NET, they'd have to adopt similar technologies. A Java runtime is the most obvious choice, though not necessarily with Sun's Java libraries.
I'll agree Java is designed to make it difficult to code illegal operations. C++, on the other hand, is a language considered unsafe because it allows unchecked array accesses among other flaws. But i believe Python answers those concerns, and i expect Python will completely usurp Perl and C++ within the next 10 years. Already, many C++ programmers use the Python language for prototyping the full specifications of a product because it's syntax is so clean and readable.
The fact remains that Linux and Gnome are based on a language and runtime that is processor and architecture dependent, provides no support for runtime safety and fault isolation, and provides no dynamic type information.
Bullshit. It sounds like your an advocate of Microsoft Internet Information Server 4.0. Open Source supports everything you claim it doesn't. Except your precious Visual Basic.
It's depressing to me to see how much projects like Mozilla, KDE, and Gnome have followed in the Microsoft footsteps and are repeating the same mistakes.
Again, subtle M$ bullshit propaganda. Mozilla 6 couldn't have been constructed any differently than IE, and Gnome has always been radically different than anything M$ has ever conceived. Gnome should be considered a raging success, especially considering it's young age.
Happy New Year q000921
Make it your new years resolution to leave the dark side!
Actually, Helix will use Nautilus. The reason is that Helix is a distribution of the Gnome environment.
I agree. And as you stated, Helixcode is under the umbrella of Gnome, so Gnome + Nautilus would remain correct.
Gmc is going out the window
GMC core dumped on me numerous times, so i won't be missing it. Good info though =^)
Nautilus isn't just some add-on file manager for the Gnome project. It will be the file manager for the Gnome project.
Good news indeed. But i've used Nautilus from the beginning, and it's far more than a file manager, unlike Red Carpet which seems like a package manager on steroids.
I'm salivating at 2.4-prerelease , but kernel compiling is a bitch with Immunix OS (stackguarded Redhat 6.2). Even with the recommended -mno-terminator-canary option to disable stackguard functionality and the replacement of the GNU C compiler to a non-stackguarded version, something still fucks up. I've successfully hacked kernels dozens of times but i've crossed the threshold of my patience with Immunix. Don't get me wrong - it's possibly the most robust and stable of Linux distributions, but not a kernel hackers special.
Open Source's approach will be different than Microsoft's, because the two philosophies and user bases are different. I believe Microsofts.NET strategy is to:
make money from popular software like Windows and Office
combat pirating
widen it's reach to more computing devices
while Linux will uses this internet intergration to help users like you and i keep up with the warpspeed Open Source development going on around the world.
I agree Open Source will use different technologies than MS, but the means is the same: software will be delivered as a service on demand to more devices than ever possible.
I believe Microsoft's looming.NET strategy is the influence behind the new web-centric philosophy of Helix Gnome - and their merging with Eazel's Nautilus". IMO, harddrive space will become less and less relevant as applications will be delivered on demand via the internet, instead of being permanantly commited to your operating environment. I use both Gnome Helix and Nautilus and I store my image files in Eazel's 25 mg storage space, and will happily upload my entire os when Eazel offers the service.
Window managers and applications that are dynamically and effortlessly updated is a good thing, and believe its the future of home computing.
but if you know how to use your index finger and a mouse simultaneously, you're well on your way to mastering KDE and Gnome desktop managers. To gain a deeper understanding of Linux you need to learn command line. It's quick and empowering, and allows you to customise your operating environment in ways you could never when confined to a gui. As for learning resources, HardcoreLinux is a site that doesn't rehash moldy tutorials and howtos. The content is exclusive to HardcoreLinux and is easy to follow. The book Sam's Teach Yourself Linux in 24 hours is also a good learning tool. It's got the right mix of gui and command line lessons and is perfect for a beginner.
My personal fave is a Brazilian ad campaign done years ago, but it's classic humor that will withstand the test of time (or at least as long as powercords exist).
You completely misunderstand the purpose of the package management system. Any such system, whether rpm or deb, makes hacks like stow unnecessary.
The purpose of a package manager is to regulate the installation, upgrading and removal of a particular application in a particular format, be it rpm, deb or tgz. Among other things, Stow allows easy un-installation of problematic packages and prevents files and links from being deleted by mistake. While you may consider these features unnecessary in a package management system, i consider them an enhancement.
A program that converts between the rpm, dpkg, stampede slp, and slackware tgz file formats with ease is the little-hyped Alien . Apt is swish - especially now when it understands a major file format like rpm - but it would be the cats ass if it had the package conversion capabilities of Alien. Apt should also imitate package management routines like Encap and GNU STOW, pm's that essentially isolate packages, installing programs in their own directories and ensuring cleaner and easier removal. With those killer features, Apt would indeed be the Linux standard, regardless of the distribution your using.
The "Got yet another idiot" email report back to the author would suggest it's the work of a Linux hater, and not just a hacker with a proof-of-concept example. Odd how the Pro-Linux trojan hasn't been documented in CERT/CC, and only anti-virus companies have identified it.
This Linux security howto may be of interest to some, so i'll humbly submit it:
DEFEND YOUR SYSTEM!
"People don't have the right to privacy when they are publicly making available infringing songs," Hoffman said. "A burglar doesn't have that right when he's walking with a television under his arm."
What an incredibly misleading analogy. An mp3 is a digital representation of a song, not the real goods. Audio signals are removed and repetitous or similar patterns are looped, so what the listener is hearing is a reasonable fascimile of the music - no more. Comparing it to breaking into private property and stealing a television set is quite a stretch.
Science is full of times where the best use for something isn't what it was designed for.
No it's not. These extremely rare cases you speak of just make better headlines than small and incremental milestones achieved in more important research.
Diverse research leads to a larger body of science for the people in the "important" fields to draw on.
If scientists can even make the association. With so much superflous, corperate-driven research going on around the world, finding an answer to an extremely complex problem (in a radically unrelated study no less) is like finding a needle in a haystack.
the resulting body of knowledge may have something in it to help with micro surgery techniques.
I was thinking prosthetic limb enhancements was a more logical correlation, but i'll buy that.
I hope more Debian sites surface in the future. It's arguably the purist of Linux distributions because it's user maintained, has an ultraswank package management tool in Apt and runs lean. I just hope a clear-cut Deselect howto is in the plans, because i almost did a flying elbow on my keyboard the last time i tried using it.
That fact Nautilus exists proves Linux users appreciate this kind of web-intergration. However, i'm not going to rationalize any futher -we've reached a stalemate. I appreciate your counter-opinion nagora, and i do believe we both care about the direction Linux is heading or else we wouldn't have bothered posting.
There are plenty others. Check these sites out if your looking for good content and interactivity.
Microsoft and the other dinosaurs are moving that way, sure. But they're doing it because they see it as the only way to fight off the threat of the net. They need a way to stop their software becoming free (in both senses) and are trying to move to this model as a form of lock-in. I don't need it, you don't need it, and Linux sure as hell doen't need it.
Linux is already doing it. Look at Nautilus, downloads and installations/upgrades with the click of a button, file sharing, storage space...
It's a smattering of what the near future holds, because users like me request these services. You may not need it, but don't speak for me or anyone else!
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The way i understand it, alot of features are kernel patches for years before they're integrated into an official release, and there's nothing preventing an individual or corporation from using these patches. More proof of Linus' open-minded approach: Caldera is developing a UnixWare kernel with Linux APIs to possibly replace the Linux kernel, and Linus welcomes the competition.
"Is Linus Killing Linux?" may be a sexy headline, but it's also deceptive and wrong.
There's a step-by-step kernel upgrading howto at
t ils/v2.3/
http://www.hardcorelinux.com/kernel-howto.htm
I also recommend you get the latest modutils found at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/modu
I know what i'm doing this weekend!
If open source efforts want to compete with
I'll agree Java is designed to make it difficult to code illegal operations. C++, on the other hand, is a language considered unsafe because it allows unchecked array accesses among other flaws. But i believe Python answers those concerns, and i expect Python will completely usurp Perl and C++ within the next 10 years. Already, many C++ programmers use the Python language for prototyping the full specifications of a product because it's syntax is so clean and readable.
The fact remains that Linux and Gnome are based on a language and runtime that is processor and architecture dependent, provides no support for runtime safety and fault isolation, and provides no dynamic type information.
Bullshit. It sounds like your an advocate of Microsoft Internet Information Server 4.0. Open Source supports everything you claim it doesn't. Except your precious Visual Basic.
It's depressing to me to see how much projects like Mozilla, KDE, and Gnome have followed in the Microsoft footsteps and are repeating the same mistakes.
Again, subtle M$ bullshit propaganda. Mozilla 6 couldn't have been constructed any differently than IE, and Gnome has always been radically different than anything M$ has ever conceived. Gnome should be considered a raging success, especially considering it's young age.
Happy New Year q000921
Make it your new years resolution to leave the dark side!
Actually, Helix will use Nautilus. The reason is that Helix is a distribution of the Gnome environment.
I agree. And as you stated, Helixcode is under the umbrella of Gnome, so Gnome + Nautilus would remain correct.
Gmc is going out the window
GMC core dumped on me numerous times, so i won't be missing it. Good info though =^)
Nautilus isn't just some add-on file manager for the Gnome project. It will be the file manager for the Gnome project.
Good news indeed. But i've used Nautilus from the beginning, and it's far more than a file manager, unlike Red Carpet which seems like a package manager on steroids.
Among other things
- make money from popular software like Windows and Office
- combat pirating
- widen it's reach to more computing devices
while Linux will uses this internet intergration to help users like you and i keep up with the warpspeed Open Source development going on around the world.I agree Open Source will use different technologies than MS, but the means is the same: software will be delivered as a service on demand to more devices than ever possible.
Window managers and applications that are dynamically and effortlessly updated is a good thing, and believe its the future of home computing.
but if you know how to use your index finger and a mouse simultaneously, you're well on your way to mastering KDE and Gnome desktop managers. To gain a deeper understanding of Linux you need to learn command line. It's quick and empowering, and allows you to customise your operating environment in ways you could never when confined to a gui.
As for learning resources, HardcoreLinux is a site that doesn't rehash moldy tutorials and howtos. The content is exclusive to HardcoreLinux and is easy to follow. The book Sam's Teach Yourself Linux in 24 hours is also a good learning tool. It's got the right mix of gui and command line lessons and is perfect for a beginner.
My personal fave is a Brazilian ad campaign done years ago, but it's classic humor that will withstand the test of time (or at least as long as powercords exist).
FYI, the Computer Museums and RetroComputing Culture WebRing is probably the hub of cool vintage-hardware websites where old skool users can reminisce.
No shit Columbo. Read my original post again, it states Apt should imitate GNU STOW's safer software management features.
I'm getting tired of spelling it out for you RelliK.
You completely misunderstand the purpose of the package management system. Any such system, whether rpm or deb, makes hacks like stow unnecessary.
The purpose of a package manager is to regulate the installation, upgrading and removal of a particular application in a particular format, be it rpm, deb or tgz. Among other things, Stow allows easy un-installation of problematic packages and prevents files and links from being deleted by mistake. While you may consider these features unnecessary in a package management system, i consider them an enhancement.
A program that converts between the rpm, dpkg, stampede slp, and slackware tgz file formats with ease is the little-hyped Alien . Apt is swish - especially now when it understands a major file format like rpm - but it would be the cats ass if it had the package conversion capabilities of Alien. Apt should also imitate package management routines like Encap and GNU STOW, pm's that essentially isolate packages, installing programs in their own directories and ensuring cleaner and easier removal. With those killer features, Apt would indeed be the Linux standard, regardless of the distribution your using.
Escape from DLL Hell!: The ultimate Package Manager Howto
This Linux security howto may be of interest to some, so i'll humbly submit it:
DEFEND YOUR SYSTEM!
"People don't have the right to privacy when they are publicly making available infringing songs," Hoffman said. "A burglar doesn't have that right when he's walking with a television under his arm."
What an incredibly misleading analogy. An mp3 is a digital representation of a song, not the real goods. Audio signals are removed and repetitous or similar patterns are looped, so what the listener is hearing is a reasonable fascimile of the music - no more. Comparing it to breaking into private property and stealing a television set is quite a stretch.
Your Support for Napster Can Make a Difference
Hook, line and sinker.
No it's not. These extremely rare cases you speak of just make better headlines than small and incremental milestones achieved in more important research.
Diverse research leads to a larger body of science for the people in the "important" fields to draw on.
If scientists can even make the association. With so much superflous, corperate-driven research going on around the world, finding an answer to an extremely complex problem (in a radically unrelated study no less) is like finding a needle in a haystack.
the resulting body of knowledge may have something in it to help with micro surgery techniques.
I was thinking prosthetic limb enhancements was a more logical correlation, but i'll buy that.
That fact Nautilus exists proves Linux users appreciate this kind of web-intergration. However, i'm not going to rationalize any futher -we've reached a stalemate. I appreciate your counter-opinion nagora, and i do believe we both care about the direction Linux is heading or else we wouldn't have bothered posting.
Cheers
So you're saying that the web (not the net) is such a useful part of your life that you would find it hard to live without?
www.everything2.com
www.disinfo.com
www.deja.com
www.yahoo.com
There are plenty others. Check these sites out if your looking for good content and interactivity.
Microsoft and the other dinosaurs are moving that way, sure. But they're doing it because they see it as the only way to fight off the threat of the net. They need a way to stop their software becoming free (in both senses) and are trying to move to this model as a form of lock-in. I don't need it, you don't need it, and Linux sure as hell doen't need it.
Linux is already doing it. Look at Nautilus, downloads and installations/upgrades with the click of a button, file sharing, storage space...
It's a smattering of what the near future holds, because users like me request these services. You may not need it, but don't speak for me or anyone else!