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Linux 2.4.0-prerelease is Released
Mark Bobak writes "2.4.0 should be ready soon. 2.4.0-test12 has been superceded
by a new release, and it's not a testxx. It's 2.4.0-prerelease.
Can't wait for the real thing....I can almost taste it! ;-)
Available, of course, at kernel.org" And happy new years to everyone else. Hopefully holiday traffic will be light enough that we can all share the bandwidth to the mirrors. I shall download while I watch the Iron Chef marathon :)
Minor and cosmetic? That's what you call USB support, AGP support, DRI support, 1394 support.. Yes, a lot of it has been backported to 2.2, but that doesn't make this release any less significant.
I ran the 2.4 kernel and was suprised by an error message returned by X4.0.1 that it got a Direct rendering version higher that the one expected. Is the Direct rendering in 2.4 kernel not compatible with X4.0.1 ?
Chill out man...
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Do you not realize at ALL that Linux is a fragmented (in a good way ;) project, and what the kernel developers do is simply develop the kernel. They don't do it instead of doing other stuff for Linux, they do it because that's their niche. If they release a new kernel, it has nothing to do with other people not releasing better development tools!
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Uhh, Linus and Alen themselves said it was going to be finished (as in non-test release) a YEAR ago. So much for not missing deadlines or released dates.
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Kernel compiling a bitch with Immunix OS?
:)
Odd, but I include a patch for 2.4.0-test8 on the Immunix CD, and on our web site right here. It applies with some fuzz on 2.4.0-test12, and I'll update again on Tues for this release.
I've also been releasing this patch on the linux-kernel mailing list, as well as the stackguard mailing list for the past couple of months.
And if you have any problems with this distro, the developers are all on the stackguard mailing list, and very responsive.
As for it not being a kernel hackers special I would dispute that, as I do all of my kernel work on this os
greg k-h
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Ah, but it's not released!
The whole concept of "intellectual property" is consistant with the workings of nature. What's mine is mine, and what's your's is your's. It is the natural order of things to be propriatory by default, and shared if desired. Take a look around at the rest of the planet before spouting philosophical bullshit.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
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In any emulation layer, there is a performance hit. And if you are incurring the performance hit on higher performance hardware, then people get pissed. I mean nobody really cares if their zip drive is taking a 20% performance hit, since its slow anyway. But when their expensive 12x10x32 Plextor CD-RW drive is taking that hit, then people get mad.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
I was pissed at them because Linus has not missed any deadlines or release dates (there are none), and there are already two (2.0 & 2.2) very stable versions of the kernel available. What exactly are we missing? I think giving an open source project a couple of months between projected and actual release dates is enough.
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C++ is great ...
but C++ compilers are crap.
Even tiny problems like the red hat 7.0 gcc would be enormous if the kernel was written in C++. C compilers are relatively simple to implement and this makes them more reliable.
(gcc 3.0 will cure cancer of course. But it's not finished yet.)
Not from what he said in the statement. Looks like this is it, if all goes well, 2.4.0 will be the next release. Damn! I'm going to go get it, and see if I can compile and install it while getting drunk ;)
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Ok. I didn't make 2.4.0 in 2000. Tough. I tried, but we had some last-minute stuff that needed fixing (ie the dirty page lists etc), and the best I can do is make a prerelease.
There's a 2.4.0-prerelease out there, and this is basically it. I want people to test it for a while, and I want to give other architectures the chance to catch up with some of the changes, but read my lips: no more recounts. There is no "prerelease1", to become "prerelease2" and so on.
One thing other architectures will want to catch up with is the changes to handle 2GHz+ machines, which due to overflow issues caused "loops_per_sec" to become "loops_per_jiffy". And some architectures have not had much chance to synchronize with me due to other fires to put out.
Give it your worst. After you recover from being hung-over, of course.
Linus
Yea, but WinNT hasn't been claiming to be a consumer operating system (Mandrake, Redhat, ahem) And they've had AGP support for a long time. Lastly, Win95 had USB support a long time ago, and the BSDs got it a while ago as well. Linux really IS late to this game.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Or something only a gnu would choose? Hmmm.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Its not the language that's the problem. (BTW kernel designers tend to have fits everytime someone mentions C++ going near a kernel;) The problem is that there is no paper standard on what the module interfaces are. That's strictly a Linus design issue, not a problem with the C language.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
The whole "without deadlines" crap is bullshit. Linux has deadlines. They might not be on paper, but if Linus took 3 years to release 2.4, everyone would know that some deadline must have been busted. Linux 2.4 was supposed to come out last year. While that wasn't an official paper deadline, missing the mark by 12 months DOES count as "overdue."
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
I patched to the prerelease (tho test12 gave me no problems) because I wanted to help Linus out (however infinitesimally) by making sure everything ran ok on my system before the official release, not because I expected my kernel to start doing anything worthwhile -- kernels don't really have to "do" anything; they just have to stay out the way and not crash.
How can anything be easier than clicking 'Windows Update' checking off the latest service pack, and then waiting for your computer to reboot? In general, Windows upgrades (when they worked, and to be fair, it didn't work for a lot of people) have simply consisted of downloading the relavent .exe, double clicking, and rebooting.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
>Then you have the fact (that unless you use RedHat or Mandrake, which bring their own set of problems) you cannot upgrade the kernel (realistically) without recompiling!
You forgot Debian.
Debian doesn't require you to recompile to upgrade. ( But of course Debian has it's own set of problems )
But in general, I would say upgrading the kernel in Debian is much easier than when I had to do it in Windows 2000.
Or remove RedHat 7 and intstall Slack. That should increase performance as well.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Nope, I didn't miss a thing. Actually, the test releases have been quite stable for me. As far as I've been concerned, my system has basically been running feature complete with the 2.4.0-test series and reiserfs patches. I guess you also missed the humor of my original post.
In the past 6 months, I've had one kernel panic under Linux ( with test kernels), 100+ crashes with win98/WinME and about 10 with W2K.
If this kernel has no show stoppers, it will be the fork for stable 2.4 and 2.5 devel. Thanks Linus, Alan and crew. I enjoy the fruits of your labor daily. I also endure the stench of the MS crowds labor daily during work.
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Heck, If only the iron chefs could program. Or mabey have Linus be the Iron Chef Netherlands!
what's new/changed/fixed?
i think you can have the bandwidth to yourself on this one.
Try linuxhq.com.
I am not a lawyer.
Surely Linus is toying with us... there is no way that the Kernel will beet Mac OSX out of the gate...
Please Linus... Don't tease us...
um.. I done, you can stop reading...
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Where can I find a list of changes in 2.4 vs 2.2 that I, as a sysadmin and end-user, would find interesting? It's not really possible to get the information from the change logs.
I remember Linus saying that, after the release of 2.2, future kernel releases would be more frequent. How long has 2.4 been in devel, compared to 2.2?
I'm not trying to flame the kernel developers for late releases, it's just an intrigue. Take your time, guys, because we run servers that depend on your code!
Microsoft delays release of Windows 2000, and the Linux community screams in delight that it must really suck, despite the pretty-damn-stable RC builds
Were the Win2kRC? releases available to the public? (No, I'm not talking about d.net's RC5 brute-forcer either.) The Mac OS 10 beta and Linux 2.4 beta are both OutNow. The 2.4-test releases are betas; this article is about Linux 2.4 RC1.
No wait, every Microsoft operating system release is a public beta.
When will MS finally release a VHS (very high security) product instead of a beta?Tetris on drugs, NES music, and GNOME vs. KDE Bingo.
Will I retire or break 10K?
> Ok. I didn't make 2.4.0 in 2000. Tough.
Spares us the debate about which is the first major Linux kernel release of the new millenium.
Anyone have the kernelnotes.org on one of their /. sidebars? They're severely behind over there. The versions need to be updated with fury. They're only at 2.2.16 for new stable, which is now at 2.2.18. And they only have 2.3.99 for new devel, which is at 2.4.0-prerelease as you can see in this /. post.
-kidlinux.
what's next ?
- ke rnel ?
2.4-alpha ?
2.4-beta ?
2.4-pre-test ?
2.4-devel ?
2.4-let's-invent-some-other-tag-for-a-year-late
what's wrong with 2.3.x, and when it's ready call it 2.4.0.
I agree about the 2.4 kernel, but OS X is another story. The latest public beta isn't even feature complete yet!
My karma ranges anywhere from 0 to 50 at any given time and I couldn't care less about it. Then again, I couldn't care less about your opionion either, but I will bite at it.
I'm just grateful towards the people who develop and create the free tools I need and use to make me lots of money so I can buy cars, snowmobiles and dirt bikes, pay my house, put beer in my fridge and food in my mouth.
Can I just take a 2.2 kernel based recent distribution, grab the prerelease source slap it in /usr/src/linux and recompile?
Or are there issues like we had from 1.2 --> 2.0?
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But distros are used widely by inexperienced users and this is code that is not extensively tested. Many people get their first and only experienced with Linux from some CD they buy off a store shelf for $29.
Yes, it has been worked on for years but it has not been used in production that much.
It would be better if most of the initial users of 2.4.0 were users who were competent to download and build their own kernels, until the bugs that will inevitably crop up in widespread use are found.
Then let the distros ship with 2.4.1.
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GoingWare Inc
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Also:
2.2-alpha-3
2.2-ex-2-plus
2.2-ex-3
If Capcom simply named them in order that they were made, there would be as many number SF games as Emacs major releases... Hell, there would probably be as many as Emacs minor releases, too.
>> Lastly, Win95 had USB support a long time ago,
Umm, yeah have you ever tried to use USB on Win95? NT doesn't support USB. There are three MS OSes that *really* support USB, they are Win98se, Win2K professional, and Me. These are all relatively new.
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Cheers Greg! I plan on using their help in the near future.
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"Correct Translation: The whole concept of "intellectual property" is damaging to humanity as a whole and should be done away with.",/i> I actually claped when I read that. I of course wondered what I was doing once I realised that I was clapping at a /. post but regardless, totally concur with your views here.
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2.4-turbo, 2.4-ultra, super-2.4, super-2.4-turbo, oh well i'm happy. i think i play too much street fighter 2 tho.
Could not be more stable. Who is that clown who says it hasn't been released yet? Head in sand?
There is nothing at kernel.org. You guys are dreaming! Anything to get people to believe it is not vaporware of 2000...
What do you mean? Win98 supports USB just fine? As for Win95, my USB speakers aren't complaining about it.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
USB stuff isn't "odd hardware." And BeOS was never a factor here (although it DOES support every bit of USB hardware I have, a Perfection 610 scanner, a Sidewinder Precision Pro, and a pair of USB speakers), I was comparing Linux to Windows and BSD.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Total releases of 2.4 promised in the last year: one.
Total delivered: zero
Total releases of BeOS promised in the last year: one
Total delivered: one
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
I highly recommend devfs also but please read the doco as you need to run a deamon for it to function correctly. Also not that not all drivers support it however, everything on my main machine and my laptop works flawlessly so, I have no idea what devices these might be.
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I thought 4.2 was RELEASE or STABLE, not CURRENT.
I don't steal other people's "intellectual property". I buy all my music, on CD. I buy all my books, on paper. All the software I run is free software, mostly GPL. Fuck you and your assumptions.
I can see why. If you had posted under your own name, that baseless, ill-conceived rant would come back to haunt you.
Everyone knows who I am and that it's me telling you (whoever you are) to go fuck yourself.
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umm, no
this sig is funny. laugh.
-kaitos
Overdue? Since when did it become possible for something without deadlines to be overdue? Oh, and did you work on it? I know I didn't, but then again, I'm not complaining that it's not out fast enough.
On the whole, this looks like symptoms of Linux becoming a seriously regarded system, with all the problems that implies. Once people start tying full-on commercial decisions and "face" to a software product, on the basis of promises -- real or inferred -- from developers, then there's considerable pressure to be seen to produce something. Particularly when the product is in a rather competitive environment and the release promises to plug some fairly obvious gaps vis a vis ones competitors.
There's nothing particularly bad about this. (And I'd rather a late stable release than an early, flakey release any day. Although it's not like I have anything much riding on 2.4.0.) But I think the Linux community should be prepared for a lot of this kind of thing; not just from the kernel, but from other high-profile packages, as well.
One word. "And?" At what point does one release a kernel? What makes it so unacceptable? Please. As long as good stable versions can stay in check, then keep all changes in CVS and let people keep up with the changes than totally adapting to a new schema! This is why I like *bsd. Yeah, there are version numbers used as landmarks... but only that. If you use a -CURRENT, it won't kill you. Sure, don't use 5.0 since it is still in development, but i'm running 4.2 that is a week old.. which means i'm running a very up-to-date version. I think the number schema for Linux has become more of a landmark than the things that are already done, like major rewrites of the kernel which are usable NOW!
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Hey, have mercy on us left-coasters! Label posts like that with *SPOILER* ! ;-)
now that linux's target has become desktop use (the addition of USB, and supporting more and more home-based devices indicates this), is the monolithic kernel design still the way to go?
i know the microkernel design has it's flaws, but surely it has more potential in terms of ease of use, and maintainability? to a new user, having to rebuild the kernel when you buy a new device would seem difficult (although it's not, but it sounds daunting at first).
just how much work would it take to re-design the current code, and port the modules?
NB:I'm not trying to have a go at linux/unix here, just my thoughts.
i wish i was but oh well
Some people are so full of themselves they need to show everyone. Look at Me! Look At Me!
But this was just sad and lame.
maybe its called prerelease because he didn't want it to be test13, it does come from the test13-preX line of kernels
-Compenguin
Vaporware means it exists only as a concept, and maybe a few pieces of useless code, though. While Mac OS X might not be a complete OS yet, it's still much more than vaporware.
Perhaps we should limit distribution of mod points to those who posess an IQ greater than the sum of their granted mod points.
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"go to the trouble of a kernel upgrade."
Trouble???
It takes about 1/2 hour to upgrade a kernel, the longest task is the compiling!
::shrug::
-SP
Natural state of information is to be known by anyone interested, isn't it?
How can you own information in my mind?
And how is small information '2+2=4' different from a lot of info, like a software program?
I may disagree with your opinion, but I will defend to death your right to speak it.
Otherwise, I believe 2.4 drops pretty much straight into woody.
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--Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
Just a clarification, I was speaking for me only as an interested observer rather than somebody who actively works on that aspect of Debian.
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Officially, I don't know, I don't monitor the devel lists.
However, it's reasonably easy to manually drop in any kernel you want. I'm currently running 2.4.0-test11 on my woody box, and it's running great!
Here's how:
This is explained much more verbosely in the documentation that comes with kernel-package, but I had few problems with the process, and I'm no expert. The process is very smooth. I like it.
What version is currently in Woody?
2.2.17 and 2.2.18pre21, it seems.
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Wow, before leaving for this year's party, I just finished my dist-upgrade, leaving me with such wonders as a new init, XFree86 4.0.2, and some other new, good things. Just this morning, I also managed to get DRI working with my i810 chipset.
Now, at 2:25am, as Octave compiles (it appears dist-upgrade broke Octave, plus a computing-intensive application ought to be optimized for my system), I download 2.4.0-prerelease. I can't think of a better way to usher in 2001 then with a new mathematical package, a new compiler (minor updates to gcc 2.95.2 packages, I guess), a new windowing system, a new direct rendering infrastructure, and now, to top it all, a new kernel.
If you ask me, life is good. I find it hard to imagine that in the future, such things as having the latest kernel and windowing system will not mattter to me. But now, in my youth, I am content.
Happy New Year. I will continue enjoying the year until spring semester starts up, but that is two weeks away...
I see my kernel is finished downloading, and Octave is about wrapped up... That means time to go.
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Why the hell was this modded up? It's not even true!
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Win2K better.. Haha, that's a good one! The ONLY thing better about Win2000 is the ability to run some more games..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Right. The fact that it is as stable as Linux, that DirectX 8 whips the hell out of anything Linux has, and the fact that the hardware support and OpenGL perfromance of Win2K still beat Linux aren't really important, are they? Not to mention the advantages Win2K has for notebooks (better power management) and all the features that the GUI has that GNOME/KDE are still lacking (they're there, but immature, and not yet pervasively used.)
There is STILL a lot of settings that you can't change without having to reboot the computer. That's crap.
>>>>>>
Who cares? You only configure your computer once in awhile!
For a "production" machine, you shouldn't have to do that.
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Therin lies the rub. You're thinking from a server standpoint.
With Linux, the ONLY thing you have to restart for is a kernel rebuild, which is very rarely necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>
Except to add support for stuff that your distro maker didn't think was important to put in. For stable distros like Slack, that means ALSA, ReiserFS, firewalls, etc. Then you have the fact (that unless you use RedHat or Mandrake, which bring their own set of problems) you cannot upgrade the kernel (realistically) without recompiling!
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
I might start to believe that 2.4.0 will come out when I see 2.4.0.prerelease-100. 2.4.0 is SOOOO long overdue.
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Vaporware that really exists? What will "industry analysts" complain about now?? :)
Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. - Mark Twain
> What do you mean? Win98 supports USB just fine?
Right, this OS is mentioned in my response.
> As for Win95, my USB speakers aren't complaining > about it.
Big deal so the speakers pull power from the bus.
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I think, frequently, we software types get too worked up over the "new release" that we don't even care what is being released. We hear "new" and we knee-jerk faster than a conservative near an abortion clinic. To a large degree, this contributes to what a lot of people have noted as an overall low quality of software.
Is it the only cause? No. But if we "power users" were more discriminating about what we'd download, perhaps those downloads would become ever-more worthwhile. I'm not saying this release won't be good; just encouraging discretion.
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after upgrading gcc and binutils earlier today...
:P )
all compiles fine... UNTIL it gets to the actual bzlinux crap... and it whines about no rule to make file X (which EXISTS DAMMIT)...
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `arch/i386/kernel/head.o', needed by `bvmlinux'. Stop.
anyone else run into this? (this didn't happen on test9 (my last 2.4 attempt, i was gonna try test11, till i found out about the gcc version issue
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I'm rather torped that the 2.4 kernel was classified as 'vaporware' in Wired Mag's 2000 vaporware winners. It would be different if hundreds, if not thousands were actually using the test versions. They also applied this same logic to Mac OS X despite the fact that there are similiar numbers using the public beta.
The next Slashdot story will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and slashdot the links early!
They release the pre-release. What's next? Will they pre-release the release?
The new kernel did not come out on time they whine. It does not support every odd piece of hardware I own they whine. One guy even whined that he did not like the way the kernel was designed in general.
/. trolls start the whine fest. What has any of these idiots done in terms of contributing code or getting involved at all? Nothing, they are probably sitting on an NT box just pumping flame bait for fun. Screw them.
Jeez, you give people a free kernel to base an OS on and they shit all over you.
It comes up everytime the
If you don't like linux use BSD its good, solid and fun to screw around on, just a few less apps running native on the thing (great server decent workstation).
If you are running Windoze please just go and troll the Zdnet and Cnet comment sections instead.
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Now we will see a much wider user base for linux as a desktop operating system. Maybe as popular as the Iron Chefs.
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Correct Translation: The whole concept of "intellectual property" is damaging to humanity as a whole and should be done away with.
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Linus said there probably wouldn't be a 2.4.0-prerelease2 -- so I personally am looking forward to running 2.4.0-prerelease2-test13-pre7-ac2. ;)
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Better yet are shell scripts that filter out your cookies after they have been saved to disk. That way you can use a cookie-requiring site, and come back the next day with no tracking info.
I had to upgrade to ppp-2.4.0 (from Rawhide, I think I got it) before my modem would work at all, and there still seems to be a problem (with easy but annoying workaround) with Red Hat's ppp-watch setup. Oh, well, I'm only stuck on a modem for another couple weeks.
Of course, if you've upgraded to Red Hat 7 (like I have), you've got 50 other updates you'll want to download, so don't feel too special.
Go to IE-->Internet Options-->Security-->click on 'restriced zones'. Click on 'sites' and add the site you want to block-*.xyz.com. Then click on "Custom Level" and disable everything including cookies. You can even add apps (outlook, etc) to the restriced zones to prevent them from running scripts or activeX in email. This is such a clunky way of blocking/setting security no wonder not too many ppl know about it, but it works.
Mirrors? Are you kidding me? Kernel.org has a huge amount of donated bandwidth, I don't think they're going to suffer from the "Slashdot effect" anytime soon. In fact, on their homepage, they say that their current bandwidth utilization is 25.52Mbits, hardly even a third of their available bandwidth.
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I think that there will be a few show stoppers before we are all happy and I wont touch the thing for production before 2.4.5
recently thre was the memcp on alpha I hope that the powerPC has it sorted
the lineo/redhat/montavista guys should base their stuff on 2.4 though or maybe 2.5/3 because of the USB code and DEVFS
hope that it all goes well
do you think that we will get a PRESENT FOR THE NEW YEAR ?
regards
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(a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
Hmmm, I guess it may even be out in time for inclusion in Libranet 2.0
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Its still a --->*PRE*--- release kernel. Not a stable 2.4.0.
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Very good. One of the more effective explanations of the differences between *BSD and Linux. I get the impression that *BSD isn't really adverse to cutting-edge, but has no intention of its own blood being shed. Penguins go where daemons fear to tread. ;)
My guess is that the 2.4 that will be released is a totally different beast from the 2.4 envisioned early in 1999. It's a difficult balancing act, and there are differences in philosophy. Which is better depends on circumstances. At least it is relatively easy to jump back and forth. Overall, there seems to be a migration from Windows to Linux to FreeBSD.
When will Debian's Woody tree get the new Linux-2.4.0-prerelease kernel? What version is currently in Woody?
cpeterso
If 2.4 gives an enterprise-class OS on IBM mainframes as well as other computers, it is well worth the wait.
Wow! You can see the future!
Maybe you can tell us when we'll be getting our flying cars and personal robots.
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"Where, where is the town? Now, it's nothing but flowers!"
the 'release frequently' motto.
New kernel updates get released every now and then, with people sitting around waiting for the number to tick over to #.even#.0.
Then there's those that say, well its only cosmetic things that have been changed since #.even#.prelease-#. If you look at the whole picture then, it seems a little more accurate.
I think people should look at the whole development since 2.3 started to what 2.4.0 is going to be rather than sulk about how nothing brand smackingly new is added between two revisions.
Or then again, maybe its just this expectation that something magical is going to happen, a new feature is suddenly going to be added or something, when it's been quite clear that since the 2.4.0-prelease kernels that no new features would be added, only bugfixes.
Jus' my 2 Australian cents, when rounded down after being converted to USD, is nothing. =)
Cheers,
leroy.
I recently upgraded to 2.4.0-test12 from 2.2.17 to fix a problem with the ide-scsi emulation. If test12 is any indication, the final 2.4.0 will be great. Time to grab that prerelease and do some compiling... Or should I wait until my linux box isn't two time zones away? =)
And, on that note, I've come home for the holidays to find that my parents now have satellite TV. 150 channels, and there's still nothing good on, the food channel's iron chef marathon notwithstanding. =)
Or will there be a 2.4.0-prerelease2 in a couple of weeks?
Can be found on Linux Today here. It includes an explanation of what's changed since 2.4.0-test12, what to expect for the immediate future, and a Happy New Year!
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