Wow... talk about having his head up his ass. You do realize the guy making the point this whole thread is based on is a scientist... right?
Not only that, but he's the editor and chief of the Lancet which is one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world.
And you tell me that my position which largely mirrors his... is wrong because I know nothing about the peer review process and I should talk to a scientist?
How fucking stupid are you? If you're what passes for a peer reviewer than we're in much more trouble than I thought. This is fucking Department of Motor Vehicles levels of stupidity.
I mean... did you not realize that there are lots of scientists saying the same thing I'm saying?
Just shocking. That you presumed to be an expert or a person of learning has completely backfired. What a fucking tool.:D
Too funny.
Seriously... Drop to your knees and apologize. I will accept it if you show enough humility to admit you fucked up.
If you don't do that, then what kind of a scienist can you possibly be? When "I" fuck up, I admit it. And I'm a layman. I freely admit error and thank people that correct me.
Here is your opportunity to show you're at least my equal in that. I have you dead to fucking rights now.
Admit it. If you don't... then contrary to your presumptions, I am your superior for the core philosophies and tenets of science mean more to me than they do to you. I also appear to understand them better than you as well.
Oh I didn't. That was your impression. I can't help if you come from an agenda driven perspective that sees everything in gender relations contexts.
I told you that I wasn't making that point.
So did you have something on topic or was the entirety of your position a sad attempt to try and beat me up for not being as politically correct as you'd like?
Your political correctness is arbitrary. A cultural taboo... an affectation. It doesn't mean anything.
You say I'm relying on gender stereotypes? But then you're projecting a stereotype on me... aren't you? You presume to know how I think or why I say what I say. You have no idea. You've pushed me into your preconceived cookie cutter ideology and would like to judge me for not using the correct GoodSpeak terms.
that's fucking pathetic. That you don't even realize what a fucking robot you are is even more pathetic. That you presume to judge me or claim superiority on the basis that you're more of a robot than I am is LAUGHABLE.
So. Your move. Did you have a point... or was that all you had?:D
Your bullshit only works when you can intimate people in person using peer pressure and mob mentality. Often as not you rely on people equally brainwashed to all rise up like zombies crying for brains. Which is why people get out of your way in real life.
You're a legitimate force of intimation, censorship, and cultural imperialism.
But on the internet... you're powerless because no one gives a fuck. Which is why you don't do well with your PC bullshit on the internet. Just food for thought there, sport. Something to think about while you're stumbling around moaning for a brain you haven't got.
there were problems with the old system, but it did actually make the states powerful in the federal government which was the point of making the senators appointed.
The people vote for the for their congressman. The senate was supposed to represent the state governments in the federal legislature.
I think a better way of reforming the system would have been to set up a system for dealing with corruption.
The existing system basically gives the state governments no agency in the federal legislature. Which is not how our government was supposed to work.
You're trying to hang charge of TREASON which requires load bearing structural steel levels of evidence on an argument that is at best a wobbly house of cards of evidence.
You're saying that an off handed comment which you're just interpreting a certain way means there was not only deceit but a specific kind of it in a context which you have provided for me out of whole cloth. This is at best tautology.
You can't make those claims on that basis.
A voice change? The fact that he might have gotten a legal argument prior to going into a diplomatic and political setting? Fucking shocking. I'm sure cabinet members never get briefed by legal teams before making complex arguments that will touch on legal matters... Right guys?
This means treason? You do realize that if you held the same standard for Hillary, the Benghazi situation would again see her charged with treason as well... more easily. Because the evidence for that is quite a bit stronger. We have for example her being aware that the incident was not triggered by a youtube video FROM HER OWN EMAILS very early on in the incident.
Bengazi had a few scandals baked into it. The first was that they lied to the American people about it being an AQ terrorist attack because Obama was trying to claim that the terrorism issue was done. Clearly it wasn't so they lied. That is easily proven and not controversal.
The more controversal point which there isn't enough evidence for yet... but this what the republicans are digging for... is that Hillary let US diplomatic forces die because she worried that sending in the Marines to save our people would create a bigger incident. And politically since they were trying to pretend AQ didn't exist and terrorism was done... they let our people die.
Again, I freely admit that there isn't enough evidence for that charge. Unlike you with your stupid Powell citation, I realize that this is a suspicion and an allegation but by no means proven or possibly even provable.
But that is what the republicans are digging for in Benghazi. Just in case you didn't know.
There's more though. Because it is also provable that Hillary received many requests for security at that facility prior to it being attacked. They were begging for support. They said they were afraid and they wanted something to defend themselves.
Hillary says she didn't even read the requests despite them being flagged by the state department as being pretty fucking critical memos. On that, alone you can cite her for gross incompetence.
But then consider that she probably did read them and chose to deny the security... for the same reason they lied about why the facility was attacked and for the same reason they PROBABLY didn't send support. That is, sending more security would make it clear that there was a security problem there. And she was more worried about that political impression than the safety of her people. Is there proof of that? Nope.
All we have proof of is that she lied for political advantage and was at the very least grossly incompetent. That's best case and in the fucking bag.
Worst case... and unproven, is that she left her people undefended for poltiical advantage and then murdered them rather than admit to an issue.
I'll point out that when the whole thing was going on and the attack was ongoing... she went home to go to sleep. How many secretaries of state would do that when their diplomats were getting murdered?
Go back to the Iran hostage situation. Think the secretary of state got any sleep? They were taking naps at the white house when that was happening. She went home.
You want to put Dennis' feet to the fire? Fine... The price is Hillary gets burned alive. Frankly, the dems have no credibility in this context anymore.
They were cited as violating the Lacy act of 1900. The law is 115 years old. that is a bit before Bush jr's time and a bit before his father's time as well. So... where did you get that information?
Your link did not cite the Gibson incident at all. Please cite a link that attributes the gibson raid to Bush. I think you just made that up and effectively attempted a really stupid lie.
The issue involved fingerboards imported from India. The Lacy act involves people basically smuggling things through the customs of other countries and then into the US. The idea was to punish companies in the US that break the laws of other countries when they export things.
The problem is that Gibson did not break the Lacy act because their exports complied entirely with Indian law. The Indian government has no problem with what Gibson did. Therefore it is not possible for them to be in violation of the Lacy act.
And it should further be noted that Gibson's competitors also imported fingerboards from India and were not raided.
Gibson apparently paid the Federal government 300,000 dollars to fuck off. Because the legal fees exceeded the costs of that fine.
Welcome to the 21st century. Were the government abuses you with your own money and if you want to resist you have to spend more of your own money.
Lying? Really Think you could prove that in a court of law? Because the clinton scandals you could prove in a court of law. As well as obstruction of justice and other fun stuff.
Cite what you could actually prove. Not your raging bias boner.
... Did you have a rational comment or does the intellectual basis of your argument boil down to the sort of shit I would expect to hear from a six year old?
Make a rational point or suck on a pacifier with the rest of the babies.
You're conflating a war that turned out to have bad intelligence with a federal agency attacking DOMESTIC political enemies and protecting DOMESTIC political allies?
So that's your ratio... about 2.8 percent of the student body is home schooled.
Alright... are you saying 2.8 percent breaks herd immunity? Because it doesn't.
Also, just because someone is home schooled doesn't mean that they don't have their vaccinations and just because someone is in public school doesn't mean they do.
That's an abtirary variable that doesn't control for whether you are vaccinated or not.
Might you be more inclined to be vaccinated one way or the other? Sure. But then people with sniffles tend to have colds. It doesn't mean that because you have the sniffles you have the cold.
Causation and correlation. I think if I were dictator of planet earth... I'd execute people for not appreciating the distinction between causation and correlation... past a certain age. Instant summery execution. The line has to be drawn somewhere. No offense.
Seriously though... you can't control for it on that basis and 2.8 which is the ceiling number is a lot higher than the number of home schoolers that don't have vaccines. Lets say half of them don't... you're then talking about 1.4 percent.
That's a fucking joke.
Blaming the outbreak on home schoolers when there is literally no evidence to back that up is fucking retarded.
there is no way that ALL the home schoolers are without vaccinations. And even 2.8 percent is a tiny portion of the population.... If you assume that half are without basic vaccinations which is likely too high, you're then talking about something less than 1.4 percent of the student body. And that is just of the students. We're not even talking about as opposed to the total population.
This is officially unsupportable.
Now, on the other side, I'd point out that we have an unprecedented wave of illegal immigration coming into this country. They're not vaccinated. They're permitted into the PUBLIC schools without vaccinations. So everyone else that goes to the school... we have to show documentation to prove we got our kids vaccinated. But they don't have to do that.
The kids are classified as "homeless" and they're just let into the system with no vaccinations at all.
Now... what are the numbers? No one actually knows. Most people cite Census numbers from TEN YEARS AGO that are of course utterly useless for figuring out what is going on today.
All that said... outbreaks happen. Even if everyone gets their shots people are going to get sick. It just happens. You have to accept that. But to blame the fucking home schoolers? Fucking astounding.
Sure. And the evidence is so strong that her political allies are being forced to admit to protect their own credibility.
You want specific evidence? In what form please? I want you to define what qualifies as evidence so you can't goal post move when I provide it.
I am not interested in trying to nail jello to the wall. Cite what you want and what you consider to be evidence. And then when I hammer that nail in... I want to enjoy it.
You know you're outing yourself as a bigger partisan hack and more gullible than MSNBC... right? I'm just saying... the Huffington Post, Politico, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, etc... they've all verified this shit.
And yet... here you are... your head so far up your own ass your eyes and ears have atrophied.
... Okay, if you're not going to discuss this in good faith then that's on you.
You're taking me out of context and strawmanning me.
When I cited the industrial revolution it was to point out that we have gone through issues like this before.
When you cited it, it was to say that someone might want to do one of those old jobs.
To which I responded, there aren't enough of them to meet demand, they only want to do the interesting parts of that job, and the expense of paying them to take over what industry does would not be economical.
Okay?
So I'm not contradicting myself thank you very much. My example was valid because I pointed out that we have gone through this sort of thing before.
I was right about that.
Your point about how people would like to do the jobs being made obsolete is a HALF truth at best. For the reasons cited above.
I am not contradicting myself.
As to people losing jobs they like... fine. Fine. FINE. So what?
You can't stop it.
In most cases I am right. In a small number of cases you are right... but it doesn't matter because you can't stop it. This isn't a choice. This isn't up for debate.
This is happening.
As to people having work they find meaningful... since when has that ever happened?
Think people had that 100 years ago? About 50 years ago? 500 years ago?
You're just goal post moving to create unreaslistic standards that aren't going to be met under any circomstance. And then using that to argue one thing or another is bad.
Well, guess what, you can't judge a real thing against an ideal. The ideal doesn't exist.
I'm not getting a dog like Lassie. You're not getting a super model wife. And as yet we've not found a single tree out there that grow money and cold beers.
You have to judge things by realistic standards. Not made up ideals that don't exist.
As to me saying there should be a guaranteed minimum income, I said no such thing. Quote me.
I have integrity so... I'd appoint people that also had integrity. Such people would destroy me as readily as anyone else if duty demanded it.
People like me don't often get into positions of power. Mostly because everyone has a vote and that means stupid people can vote. Stupid people out number smart people... lazy out number the engaged. And so because it is easy to lie to morons... you get a government elected by morons. Which is generally run by con artists of varying stripes because they're better at manipulating people.
Literally just put the entire house inside a green house. Have the green house extend as far away from the house in all sides as I can afford.
Then manage the internal temp and humidity of the green house to create a year round micro climate for my house.
First, you have to make use of as much geo thermal energy as possible. The ground stays stable at the same temperature all year round. If you're in an area that gets cold in the winter, then what you want to do is cycle all the air in the green house through the ground. The ground stays at about 55 degrees which is well above freezing. Just using some shafts and some fans, you should be able to keep the green house at 55 degrees.
You can push it higher by storing heat collected during the day. Even in the dead of winter, a green house will get warm in the middle of the day. Often so hot that you need to vent heat in the middle of a winter day. Instead of venting, store the heat in the ground. Just pump air from the top of the green house through pipes about six feet under the ground. You'll heat up the earth under the green house which will release that heat all night. You also don't have to lose humidity if you're in a dry area if you're cycling the air that way. If you vent, then you'll equalize the humidity inside with outside. If you don't need to vent then you can keep it trapped.
After that you can play with aquaponics... get yourself a fish pond and cycle the water through a hydroponic grow bed.
Inside the house, I really liked that idea about switching to low voltage DC. It makes going off grid more affordable because you're not wasting so much power converting things to and from AC all the time. You just go DC to the batteries, then DC from the batteries into the home grid, and then from the home grid right into the appliances etc which will use DC natively. All you'll have to do is watch voltage and amperage.
Beyond that, I'd smart house the whole house with arduinos.
So... all the boring stuff like lights, power management, water management, doors, security, etc. But go farther with a sprinkler system, etc.
Then for the entertainment system, I'd go with a black screen projector for my home theater. These are neat because they work in broad daylight. No wash out of the picture despite having a huge screen or the lights on.
I'd keep the house to one story and might even sink it into the ground a bit. Keep in mind that most windows don't touch the ground in the first place. So why have the window be that far above the ground on the outside? This is relevant to the green house concept because you want the house to be in the green house but to block as little light as possible.
The roof of the house could be flat and planted or have a deck on it or something. Remember, the roof doesn't get rained on. The rain falls on the roof of the green house. It never touches the actual house.
The garage for the car should either be a separate structure or be under the house. There's no reason for a car's garage to be on the first floor. That space is too precious. Have a ramp go down into the basement and have the car kept there.
An interesting idea is to CNC mill the bricks or stones that the house is made out of. A CNC machine capable of doing this isn't that expensive and you wouldn't need to mill literally every stone. Just enough to get the effect you were going for.
A few ideas that are interesting to me are perfectly fit stones. If you look at neolithic buildings they don't use mortar. They use perfectly fit stones that fit together like a jigsaw. Gravity holds the whole thing together. You can and probably should use mortar and steel reinforcement. BUT if the stones fit together like that, you don't have to do that. They click together like legos.
Another thing you could do with that is have the entire structure carved... or milled. Imagine some sort of pictogram or pattern in the stone.
Lighting in the green house would be a big deal. You'd want the green house to be able to
The problem with your smithing argument is that there are no where near enough people that ACTUALLY want to do that job if we needed it done.
Think of the sheer quantity of smithing we need in this society? And keep in mind further that the smithing people want to do is the interesting stuff. They want to make knives and other tools. But what about rebar? Steel structural supports?
Your smiths want to do that? We hundreds of TONS of that work done annually.
Can you find enough smiths that want to do that sort of work to do it?
And consider if we could afford to pay them to do it? The only reason we use rebar etc is because it is cheap enough that we can use it.
We couldn't build skyscrappers or have big cruise ships or container ships or commercial airliners if everything had to be hand crafted.
That's insane.
So yeah. You're going to lose those jobs. And it is for the best. Because in doing that, we produce an abundance of wealth that benefits all of society.
If you want to do some old timey job... then do it. If you're actually good at it then you'll find work. There are smiths that still exist and they make stuff. They repair things they make custom swords and knives and all sorts of stuff.
If you're shitty at it, then do it as a hobby. Our society is rich enough that more people can afford to have hobbies than did so in the past. As our society gets richer, we'll have even more wealth so you can have your hobby.
You want to smith in your backyard shed? go for it. Maybe you'll actually get good at it. And if you do, then you can quit your day job and just do that.
As to getting squeezed out of a profession... programmers are pretty safe for the time being. So long as the technologies and languages you work with remain relevant you should be fine.
If you applied any of the same logic on what is hitting hastert... and overreacted to the same extent... Hillary would be executed.
hastert is being pushed around for moving his money around in suspicious ways. The Clintons do that every day. No. Literally every day. They did it yesterday and they'll do it tomorrow. They've been doing it for years and years and years. The Clinton scandals go back to before Bill became president. And no... it isn't all the vast right wing conspiracy. Even MSNBC and the NYTs are admitting it is a fucking problem.
Do I like Dennis? No... I don't care for the man. But I have a bigger problem with the justice department becoming politically compromised and doing whatever it wants on the basis of political alliances. It needs to be politically non-aligned. And we can see very clearly that is not what is going on.
The justice department, the IRS, the EPA, the Department of Labor... they're all being used to protect political allies and hurt political enemies.
Don't like someone? Audit them with the IRS. They didn't get the hint? Send the EPA in there to find some nit picky thing going on that is impossible to comply with to fine the person with. That didn't work? Send in the department of labor. Ask all the women that work there if any of them would like to get a million dollar settlement for filiing a false discrimination lawsuit.
Keep it up. Everyone submits when the pressure comes down on them.
The Gibson guitar factory got raided by the FBI for having rare woods... finger boards... and they said something about how that was a violation of some law from the 1920s that makes no sense. Coincidentally, the CEO of Gibson was giving money to the rival political party. Tisk tisk. Didn't the fool know you're only allowed to make donations to the ruling party?
And on and on and on.
Here someone will say I'm exaggerating or only painting one party in a bad light. That isn't my intention. I am equally against either party really. My issue is that THIS party is the one doing it RIGHT NOW. So I'm going to focus on them. RIGHT NOW. If they lose power and the other party starts doing it, THEN I'll be talking about them. it isn't happening right now.
I actually did. I pointed out that the home schoolers make up a relatively tiny portion of the population and are therefore not relevant to herd immunity.
Pay attention next time.
As to mandatory vaccinations, I said they were fine for people that go to school. Require it when they show up. Getting snippy with me about home schoolers is idiotic since there aren't enough of them to be relevant. You might as well bitch about the Amish not getting vaccinated.
Does that sound rational to you or fucking stupid?
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Go to talk to a scientist?
Wow... talk about having his head up his ass. You do realize the guy making the point this whole thread is based on is a scientist... right?
Not only that, but he's the editor and chief of the Lancet which is one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world.
And you tell me that my position which largely mirrors his... is wrong because I know nothing about the peer review process and I should talk to a scientist?
How fucking stupid are you? If you're what passes for a peer reviewer than we're in much more trouble than I thought. This is fucking Department of Motor Vehicles levels of stupidity.
I mean... did you not realize that there are lots of scientists saying the same thing I'm saying?
Just shocking. That you presumed to be an expert or a person of learning has completely backfired. What a fucking tool. :D
Too funny.
Seriously... Drop to your knees and apologize. I will accept it if you show enough humility to admit you fucked up.
If you don't do that, then what kind of a scienist can you possibly be? When "I" fuck up, I admit it. And I'm a layman. I freely admit error and thank people that correct me.
Here is your opportunity to show you're at least my equal in that. I have you dead to fucking rights now.
Admit it. If you don't... then contrary to your presumptions, I am your superior for the core philosophies and tenets of science mean more to me than they do to you. I also appear to understand them better than you as well.
You are one disappointing monkey.
Oh I didn't. That was your impression. I can't help if you come from an agenda driven perspective that sees everything in gender relations contexts.
I told you that I wasn't making that point.
So did you have something on topic or was the entirety of your position a sad attempt to try and beat me up for not being as politically correct as you'd like?
Your political correctness is arbitrary. A cultural taboo... an affectation. It doesn't mean anything.
You say I'm relying on gender stereotypes? But then you're projecting a stereotype on me... aren't you? You presume to know how I think or why I say what I say. You have no idea. You've pushed me into your preconceived cookie cutter ideology and would like to judge me for not using the correct GoodSpeak terms.
that's fucking pathetic. That you don't even realize what a fucking robot you are is even more pathetic. That you presume to judge me or claim superiority on the basis that you're more of a robot than I am is LAUGHABLE.
So. Your move. Did you have a point... or was that all you had? :D
Your bullshit only works when you can intimate people in person using peer pressure and mob mentality. Often as not you rely on people equally brainwashed to all rise up like zombies crying for brains. Which is why people get out of your way in real life.
You're a legitimate force of intimation, censorship, and cultural imperialism.
But on the internet... you're powerless because no one gives a fuck. Which is why you don't do well with your PC bullshit on the internet. Just food for thought there, sport. Something to think about while you're stumbling around moaning for a brain you haven't got.
there were problems with the old system, but it did actually make the states powerful in the federal government which was the point of making the senators appointed.
The people vote for the for their congressman. The senate was supposed to represent the state governments in the federal legislature.
I think a better way of reforming the system would have been to set up a system for dealing with corruption.
The existing system basically gives the state governments no agency in the federal legislature. Which is not how our government was supposed to work.
You're trying to hang charge of TREASON which requires load bearing structural steel levels of evidence on an argument that is at best a wobbly house of cards of evidence.
You're saying that an off handed comment which you're just interpreting a certain way means there was not only deceit but a specific kind of it in a context which you have provided for me out of whole cloth. This is at best tautology.
You can't make those claims on that basis.
A voice change? The fact that he might have gotten a legal argument prior to going into a diplomatic and political setting? Fucking shocking. I'm sure cabinet members never get briefed by legal teams before making complex arguments that will touch on legal matters... Right guys?
This means treason? You do realize that if you held the same standard for Hillary, the Benghazi situation would again see her charged with treason as well... more easily. Because the evidence for that is quite a bit stronger. We have for example her being aware that the incident was not triggered by a youtube video FROM HER OWN EMAILS very early on in the incident.
Bengazi had a few scandals baked into it. The first was that they lied to the American people about it being an AQ terrorist attack because Obama was trying to claim that the terrorism issue was done. Clearly it wasn't so they lied. That is easily proven and not controversal.
The more controversal point which there isn't enough evidence for yet... but this what the republicans are digging for... is that Hillary let US diplomatic forces die because she worried that sending in the Marines to save our people would create a bigger incident. And politically since they were trying to pretend AQ didn't exist and terrorism was done... they let our people die.
Again, I freely admit that there isn't enough evidence for that charge. Unlike you with your stupid Powell citation, I realize that this is a suspicion and an allegation but by no means proven or possibly even provable.
But that is what the republicans are digging for in Benghazi. Just in case you didn't know.
There's more though. Because it is also provable that Hillary received many requests for security at that facility prior to it being attacked. They were begging for support. They said they were afraid and they wanted something to defend themselves.
Hillary says she didn't even read the requests despite them being flagged by the state department as being pretty fucking critical memos. On that, alone you can cite her for gross incompetence.
But then consider that she probably did read them and chose to deny the security... for the same reason they lied about why the facility was attacked and for the same reason they PROBABLY didn't send support. That is, sending more security would make it clear that there was a security problem there. And she was more worried about that political impression than the safety of her people. Is there proof of that? Nope.
All we have proof of is that she lied for political advantage and was at the very least grossly incompetent. That's best case and in the fucking bag.
Worst case... and unproven, is that she left her people undefended for poltiical advantage and then murdered them rather than admit to an issue.
I'll point out that when the whole thing was going on and the attack was ongoing... she went home to go to sleep. How many secretaries of state would do that when their diplomats were getting murdered?
Go back to the Iran hostage situation. Think the secretary of state got any sleep? They were taking naps at the white house when that was happening. She went home.
You want to put Dennis' feet to the fire? Fine... The price is Hillary gets burned alive. Frankly, the dems have no credibility in this context anymore.
None.
Wrong, sir!
That's so wrong I'm going to let wonka rub it in.
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They were cited as violating the Lacy act of 1900. The law is 115 years old. that is a bit before Bush jr's time and a bit before his father's time as well. So... where did you get that information?
Your link did not cite the Gibson incident at all. Please cite a link that attributes the gibson raid to Bush. I think you just made that up and effectively attempted a really stupid lie.
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The issue involved fingerboards imported from India. The Lacy act involves people basically smuggling things through the customs of other countries and then into the US. The idea was to punish companies in the US that break the laws of other countries when they export things.
The problem is that Gibson did not break the Lacy act because their exports complied entirely with Indian law. The Indian government has no problem with what Gibson did. Therefore it is not possible for them to be in violation of the Lacy act.
And it should further be noted that Gibson's competitors also imported fingerboards from India and were not raided.
Gibson apparently paid the Federal government 300,000 dollars to fuck off. Because the legal fees exceeded the costs of that fine.
Welcome to the 21st century. Were the government abuses you with your own money and if you want to resist you have to spend more of your own money.
Lying? Really Think you could prove that in a court of law? Because the clinton scandals you could prove in a court of law. As well as obstruction of justice and other fun stuff.
Cite what you could actually prove. Not your raging bias boner.
No... I didn't even know that existed... Fallout 3 puppies perk. Nifty.
I just got so used to hacking him invulnerability that it didn't occur to me there might be a perk.
That perk is awesome. :D
... Did you have a rational comment or does the intellectual basis of your argument boil down to the sort of shit I would expect to hear from a six year old?
Make a rational point or suck on a pacifier with the rest of the babies.
You're conflating a war that turned out to have bad intelligence with a federal agency attacking DOMESTIC political enemies and protecting DOMESTIC political allies?
That's fucking filthy.
I couldn't find any link between that and home schoolers.
Can you provide a link? From what I could see they had no idea where the disease came from and the people infected were mostly not home schoolers.
I live in southern california... lets look at the stats.
Okay:
http://a2zhomeschooling.com/th...
California 6,757,361 / 190,911
So that's your ratio... about 2.8 percent of the student body is home schooled.
Alright... are you saying 2.8 percent breaks herd immunity? Because it doesn't.
Also, just because someone is home schooled doesn't mean that they don't have their vaccinations and just because someone is in public school doesn't mean they do.
That's an abtirary variable that doesn't control for whether you are vaccinated or not.
Might you be more inclined to be vaccinated one way or the other? Sure. But then people with sniffles tend to have colds. It doesn't mean that because you have the sniffles you have the cold.
Causation and correlation. I think if I were dictator of planet earth... I'd execute people for not appreciating the distinction between causation and correlation... past a certain age. Instant summery execution. The line has to be drawn somewhere. No offense.
Seriously though... you can't control for it on that basis and 2.8 which is the ceiling number is a lot higher than the number of home schoolers that don't have vaccines. Lets say half of them don't... you're then talking about 1.4 percent.
That's a fucking joke.
Blaming the outbreak on home schoolers when there is literally no evidence to back that up is fucking retarded.
there is no way that ALL the home schoolers are without vaccinations. And even 2.8 percent is a tiny portion of the population.... If you assume that half are without basic vaccinations which is likely too high, you're then talking about something less than 1.4 percent of the student body. And that is just of the students. We're not even talking about as opposed to the total population.
This is officially unsupportable.
Now, on the other side, I'd point out that we have an unprecedented wave of illegal immigration coming into this country. They're not vaccinated. They're permitted into the PUBLIC schools without vaccinations. So everyone else that goes to the school... we have to show documentation to prove we got our kids vaccinated. But they don't have to do that.
The kids are classified as "homeless" and they're just let into the system with no vaccinations at all.
Now... what are the numbers? No one actually knows. Most people cite Census numbers from TEN YEARS AGO that are of course utterly useless for figuring out what is going on today.
All that said... outbreaks happen. Even if everyone gets their shots people are going to get sick. It just happens. You have to accept that. But to blame the fucking home schoolers? Fucking astounding.
Sure. And the evidence is so strong that her political allies are being forced to admit to protect their own credibility.
You want specific evidence? In what form please? I want you to define what qualifies as evidence so you can't goal post move when I provide it.
I am not interested in trying to nail jello to the wall. Cite what you want and what you consider to be evidence. And then when I hammer that nail in... I want to enjoy it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
So make my day. Put your hand on that wall. :)
Granted if they make it an MMO, it will be garbage.
*chuckles*
You know you're outing yourself as a bigger partisan hack and more gullible than MSNBC... right? I'm just saying... the Huffington Post, Politico, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, etc... they've all verified this shit.
And yet... here you are... your head so far up your own ass your eyes and ears have atrophied.
This is happening. Wake up.
A good deal of working around stupid if figuring out what is relevant and what is not... and ignoring what is not relevant.
Home schoolers are not relevant to herd immunity. There aren't enough of them.
So... sarcasm is your way of showing you're superior to me?
How is that working out for you?
I love the fallout series.
They featured that dog heavily in the trailer... I hope the damn dog isn't so death prone in the new game. I love and hate those dogs.
They're my special friends while they're alive and then they die and I feel sad. :(
Forces me to cheat and bring the dog back to life or make him invulnerable or something. Unkillable puppy. :D
... Okay, if you're not going to discuss this in good faith then that's on you.
You're taking me out of context and strawmanning me.
When I cited the industrial revolution it was to point out that we have gone through issues like this before.
When you cited it, it was to say that someone might want to do one of those old jobs.
To which I responded, there aren't enough of them to meet demand, they only want to do the interesting parts of that job, and the expense of paying them to take over what industry does would not be economical.
Okay?
So I'm not contradicting myself thank you very much. My example was valid because I pointed out that we have gone through this sort of thing before.
I was right about that.
Your point about how people would like to do the jobs being made obsolete is a HALF truth at best. For the reasons cited above.
I am not contradicting myself.
As to people losing jobs they like... fine. Fine. FINE. So what?
You can't stop it.
In most cases I am right. In a small number of cases you are right... but it doesn't matter because you can't stop it. This isn't a choice. This isn't up for debate.
This is happening.
As to people having work they find meaningful... since when has that ever happened?
Think people had that 100 years ago? About 50 years ago? 500 years ago?
You're just goal post moving to create unreaslistic standards that aren't going to be met under any circomstance. And then using that to argue one thing or another is bad.
Well, guess what, you can't judge a real thing against an ideal. The ideal doesn't exist.
I'm not getting a dog like Lassie. You're not getting a super model wife. And as yet we've not found a single tree out there that grow money and cold beers.
You have to judge things by realistic standards. Not made up ideals that don't exist.
As to me saying there should be a guaranteed minimum income, I said no such thing. Quote me.
I have integrity so... I'd appoint people that also had integrity. Such people would destroy me as readily as anyone else if duty demanded it.
People like me don't often get into positions of power. Mostly because everyone has a vote and that means stupid people can vote. Stupid people out number smart people... lazy out number the engaged. And so because it is easy to lie to morons... you get a government elected by morons. Which is generally run by con artists of varying stripes because they're better at manipulating people.
And thus you get what we have today.
Literally just put the entire house inside a green house. Have the green house extend as far away from the house in all sides as I can afford.
Then manage the internal temp and humidity of the green house to create a year round micro climate for my house.
First, you have to make use of as much geo thermal energy as possible. The ground stays stable at the same temperature all year round. If you're in an area that gets cold in the winter, then what you want to do is cycle all the air in the green house through the ground. The ground stays at about 55 degrees which is well above freezing. Just using some shafts and some fans, you should be able to keep the green house at 55 degrees.
You can push it higher by storing heat collected during the day. Even in the dead of winter, a green house will get warm in the middle of the day. Often so hot that you need to vent heat in the middle of a winter day. Instead of venting, store the heat in the ground. Just pump air from the top of the green house through pipes about six feet under the ground. You'll heat up the earth under the green house which will release that heat all night. You also don't have to lose humidity if you're in a dry area if you're cycling the air that way. If you vent, then you'll equalize the humidity inside with outside. If you don't need to vent then you can keep it trapped.
After that you can play with aquaponics... get yourself a fish pond and cycle the water through a hydroponic grow bed.
Inside the house, I really liked that idea about switching to low voltage DC. It makes going off grid more affordable because you're not wasting so much power converting things to and from AC all the time. You just go DC to the batteries, then DC from the batteries into the home grid, and then from the home grid right into the appliances etc which will use DC natively. All you'll have to do is watch voltage and amperage.
Beyond that, I'd smart house the whole house with arduinos.
So... all the boring stuff like lights, power management, water management, doors, security, etc. But go farther with a sprinkler system, etc.
Then for the entertainment system, I'd go with a black screen projector for my home theater. These are neat because they work in broad daylight. No wash out of the picture despite having a huge screen or the lights on.
I'd keep the house to one story and might even sink it into the ground a bit. Keep in mind that most windows don't touch the ground in the first place. So why have the window be that far above the ground on the outside? This is relevant to the green house concept because you want the house to be in the green house but to block as little light as possible.
The roof of the house could be flat and planted or have a deck on it or something. Remember, the roof doesn't get rained on. The rain falls on the roof of the green house. It never touches the actual house.
The garage for the car should either be a separate structure or be under the house. There's no reason for a car's garage to be on the first floor. That space is too precious. Have a ramp go down into the basement and have the car kept there.
An interesting idea is to CNC mill the bricks or stones that the house is made out of. A CNC machine capable of doing this isn't that expensive and you wouldn't need to mill literally every stone. Just enough to get the effect you were going for.
A few ideas that are interesting to me are perfectly fit stones. If you look at neolithic buildings they don't use mortar. They use perfectly fit stones that fit together like a jigsaw. Gravity holds the whole thing together. You can and probably should use mortar and steel reinforcement. BUT if the stones fit together like that, you don't have to do that. They click together like legos.
Another thing you could do with that is have the entire structure carved... or milled. Imagine some sort of pictogram or pattern in the stone.
Lighting in the green house would be a big deal. You'd want the green house to be able to
The problem with your smithing argument is that there are no where near enough people that ACTUALLY want to do that job if we needed it done.
Think of the sheer quantity of smithing we need in this society? And keep in mind further that the smithing people want to do is the interesting stuff. They want to make knives and other tools. But what about rebar? Steel structural supports?
Your smiths want to do that? We hundreds of TONS of that work done annually.
Can you find enough smiths that want to do that sort of work to do it?
And consider if we could afford to pay them to do it? The only reason we use rebar etc is because it is cheap enough that we can use it.
We couldn't build skyscrappers or have big cruise ships or container ships or commercial airliners if everything had to be hand crafted.
That's insane.
So yeah. You're going to lose those jobs. And it is for the best. Because in doing that, we produce an abundance of wealth that benefits all of society.
If you want to do some old timey job... then do it. If you're actually good at it then you'll find work. There are smiths that still exist and they make stuff. They repair things they make custom swords and knives and all sorts of stuff.
If you're shitty at it, then do it as a hobby. Our society is rich enough that more people can afford to have hobbies than did so in the past. As our society gets richer, we'll have even more wealth so you can have your hobby.
You want to smith in your backyard shed? go for it. Maybe you'll actually get good at it. And if you do, then you can quit your day job and just do that.
As to getting squeezed out of a profession... programmers are pretty safe for the time being. So long as the technologies and languages you work with remain relevant you should be fine.
If you applied any of the same logic on what is hitting hastert... and overreacted to the same extent... Hillary would be executed.
hastert is being pushed around for moving his money around in suspicious ways. The Clintons do that every day. No. Literally every day. They did it yesterday and they'll do it tomorrow. They've been doing it for years and years and years. The Clinton scandals go back to before Bill became president. And no... it isn't all the vast right wing conspiracy. Even MSNBC and the NYTs are admitting it is a fucking problem.
Do I like Dennis? No... I don't care for the man. But I have a bigger problem with the justice department becoming politically compromised and doing whatever it wants on the basis of political alliances. It needs to be politically non-aligned. And we can see very clearly that is not what is going on.
The justice department, the IRS, the EPA, the Department of Labor... they're all being used to protect political allies and hurt political enemies.
Don't like someone? Audit them with the IRS. They didn't get the hint? Send the EPA in there to find some nit picky thing going on that is impossible to comply with to fine the person with. That didn't work? Send in the department of labor. Ask all the women that work there if any of them would like to get a million dollar settlement for filiing a false discrimination lawsuit.
Keep it up. Everyone submits when the pressure comes down on them.
The Gibson guitar factory got raided by the FBI for having rare woods... finger boards... and they said something about how that was a violation of some law from the 1920s that makes no sense. Coincidentally, the CEO of Gibson was giving money to the rival political party. Tisk tisk. Didn't the fool know you're only allowed to make donations to the ruling party?
And on and on and on.
Here someone will say I'm exaggerating or only painting one party in a bad light. That isn't my intention. I am equally against either party really. My issue is that THIS party is the one doing it RIGHT NOW. So I'm going to focus on them. RIGHT NOW. If they lose power and the other party starts doing it, THEN I'll be talking about them. it isn't happening right now.
I actually did. I pointed out that the home schoolers make up a relatively tiny portion of the population and are therefore not relevant to herd immunity.
Pay attention next time.
As to mandatory vaccinations, I said they were fine for people that go to school. Require it when they show up. Getting snippy with me about home schoolers is idiotic since there aren't enough of them to be relevant. You might as well bitch about the Amish not getting vaccinated.
Does that sound rational to you or fucking stupid?
That's a rhetorical question. Its fucking stupid.