This is not real space tourism. This is about Russians making a quick buck off of American tax money. We (and some other countries in less important spots on the earth's surface) spent billions in captial to build the ISS, and the Russians are wasting the investment by sending up tourists instead of scientists to perform experiments and astronauts to run the station. Sure the Russians make a few million, but only because the billions were spent by someone else. If this were really about making space profitable, I'd be all for it. But its not profit, it's graft.
So, by your same argument, when the US sent astronauts to MIR before we had an ISS, that was graft, because the Americans were getting a free ride on Russian Taxpayer money, eh?
You wrote:
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Directed by Frakes.
Story and executive production by Nimoy.
Keep Shatner the heck away from the set.
Keep it fast and not too much dialog.
etc..
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This is exactly how Hollywood works. Early in the series of movies, Paramount called in Harlan Ellison and said to him "listen, we make $10 million of a Star Trek movie, and we make $10 Million on a Eddie Murphy movie. So write us a Star Trek Movie with Eddie Murphy in it and we'll make $20 miilion!"
Technological superiority can be a hazard or a benefit depending upon how blindly we trust that superior technology means superior ability to kill.
Consider that when the F-4 Phantom was built, we relied so heavily on the technology of the radar guided missle that we thought there would never again be any dogfighting in the skies, and all kills would be done from a range of 25 miles away. And so, F-4 Phantoms were built without guns.
We got our butts kicked as a result with high losses as the MIG's tore the crap out of the Phantoms,
The next batch of F-4's had a gun built into a pod that would have been used to carry a missle. Suddenly the idea of building a manueverable fighter aircraft with guns was again, seen as a necessity. We learned that technology alone doesn't win a war.
The "Top Gun" school was started as a result of that embarassing mistake.
Let us hope that we still remember that painful lesson in this instance.
Visit http://www.obsolyte.com and click on any of the Sun links. I've got specs for most of the popular models from the IPC to the later machines. I'm hoping to cover Ultras soon, but I haven't got the dough to get one yet and examine it in detail.
Hope this helpful. If you want to run older SUNOS AND solaris 8, you might need two different machines, as the ones that SUpport SUNOS might not be supported under Solaris 8 (or run Solaris 8 too slowly to be usuable in any real sense).
Microsoft Windows, in it's various incarnations, is entrenched. It's difficult to have any semblence of "market share" and therefore, you will encounter resistance in terms of getting device drivers, and basic applications across a variety of hardware. Never mind "multimedia" like Apple's Quicktime or RealMedia.
Hell, the Macintosh and Linux barely show up on the radar of some in the industry, and outside of the industry, I find it difficult to find people who've even heard of Linux.
So, my question is: Do you have a plan to overcome inertia, or do you just not care about competeing with Windows? Are you interested in having this OS become mainstream, or are you content to be relegated to 1/1000th of one percent of "the market"?
BeOS had something in the order of one hundred thousand users. And still, Be had trouble getting anyone outside of that small circle to take it seriously.
If I decide that today is the last day I'll ever run MS Windows, and I install your OS, it's very unlikely that I'll be able to do anything meaningful with it, and furthermore, most of my peripherals will not work.
How will you overcome this to the point that the OS is accepted and taken seriously by those outside the small circle who develop for and use it?
Remember that although Linux gained acceptance, Linux was the exception and not the rule. Consider the *BSD market, now overshadowed by Linux, who get zero time in the popular industry press, and yet, their product is just as good.
Remember GeoWorks? (for those of us who had C=64's, it was also called GEOS). I believe it's now called "NewDeal", but it hasn't made any progress against the titan of MS Windows.
So, while a fun concept, how far do you really think this project will go?
Has everyone forgotten the original givers? They are the reason we have the mouse. The interaction. The PC. Their research and ideas, abused by Case and later Gates, gave birth to CHI (Computer Human Interaction).
First of all, you got your 'steves' confused. Perhaps you meant Steve Jobs, and not Steve Case?
Secondly the mouse was really invented by Douglas Engelbart, *not* by Xerox PARC. Engelbart also came up with concepts for GUI and other Human/Computer Interface paradigms. And he was doing this in 1965 or so, well before PARC, or even Apple.
Didn't Bill Gates and Paul Allen "Steal" computer time on the Harvard computer lab to write the first version of BASIC for the Altair Computer? Since this event essentially started Microsoft off as a corporation, I figure Harvard must be owed about 60 Billion Dollars?
Why is it that Bill Gates thinks it's okay to steal from schools, but it's not okay for schools to steal from him?
And this is coming from Microsoft, which steals everyone else's innovations and ebraces and extends it into their own products.
I need a nuclear warhead and a ticket to Redmond...
If you've got one you don't want, send it to me - if your machine is antique and/or unique, I'll make it a part of my museum, and give it a page on my "Obsolyte" web site.
Otherwise, I can always use the spare parts! I have found good homes for many of the machines I've recovered from dumpsters!
You can use 8088 machines with an ISA ethernet card and the use a dos version of NCSA telnet to access servers on a network. The whole thing can fit on a floppy if you're good. I recently did this with a 386 laptop I found in the trash. Used an obsolete Xircom pocket adapter too, going through the parallel port and giving me ethernet.
Works great!
More obsolete hardware at ObsolYte!
Where the antique is ElYte!
Before distros existed, people put this stuff together on their own. The first distros were people who did the work and shared it with others.
I'm not trying to recommend that everyone cobble together Sparc Linux on their own, but maybe if enough of us collaborate, we can keep something alive if we're willing to make the effort.
I use RedHat 6.0 for Sparc on my website (www.obsolyte.com), and I can tell you that, for an antique Sparc IPX, Solaris simply wasn't an option --- unless I used a version as out-of-date as the machine itself. That left Linux or BSD as options, and I was more familiar with Linux.
Want to know more about antique sparc hardware (and other vintage workstations/servers)? Visit my site!
And I'm willing to help out to keep a distribution alive.
I'm so *freaking* tired of books that rewrite history to say that the entire PC revolution happened on the West Coast.
Does anybody remember Commodore? The CBM PET was the first home machine with an integrated screen and keyboard, AND could save your programs on a cassette. All in one machine.
During the height of the Commodore 64, CBM owned over 33% of the home computer market, a percentage that to this day, no other single box-maker has ever had.
And then there's the Amiga, a machine so far ahead of it's time that a decade later, some of the features it had still aren't available on modern equipment.
There was a point where Commodore was kicking Apple's butt, but everyone forgets that and just talks about the Two Steves and Bill, like they alone invented personal computing. Don't get me wrong, I think WOZ is a god, but sheesh!, can't someone write a book that has facts in it, and tells the history truthfully, without cutting out huge chunks of history for the sake of drama?
You've all gotten the SPAM about how you send $5 to the first 3 names on the list and then add your name to the bottom, and in a few weeks, you'll get $50,000.
I say Patent this "invention", and then, you really CAN collect $50,000 or more from all those stupid-ass spammers!
Kill two birds with one stone I say: Let's show how inspid the patent office is while at the same time, bankrupting every spammer we can find.
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This is not real space tourism. This is about Russians making a quick buck off of American tax money. We (and some other countries in less important spots on the earth's surface) spent billions in captial to build the ISS, and the Russians are wasting the investment by sending up tourists instead of scientists to perform experiments and astronauts to run the station. Sure the Russians make a few million, but only because the billions were spent by someone else. If this were really about making space profitable, I'd be all for it. But its not profit, it's graft.
So, by your same argument, when the US sent astronauts to MIR before we had an ISS, that was graft, because the Americans were getting a free ride on Russian Taxpayer money, eh?
You wrote:
------------
Directed by Frakes.
Story and executive production by Nimoy.
Keep Shatner the heck away from the set.
Keep it fast and not too much dialog.
etc..
-------------
This is exactly how Hollywood works. Early in the series of movies, Paramount called in Harlan Ellison and said to him "listen, we make $10 million of a Star Trek movie, and we make $10 Million on a Eddie Murphy movie. So write us a Star Trek Movie with Eddie Murphy in it and we'll make $20 miilion!"
No joke.
Technological superiority can be a hazard or a benefit depending upon how blindly we trust that superior technology means superior ability to kill.
Consider that when the F-4 Phantom was built, we relied so heavily on the technology of the radar guided missle that we thought there would never again be any dogfighting in the skies, and all kills would be done from a range of 25 miles away. And so, F-4 Phantoms were built without guns.
We got our butts kicked as a result with high losses as the MIG's tore the crap out of the Phantoms,
The next batch of F-4's had a gun built into a pod that would have been used to carry a missle. Suddenly the idea of building a manueverable fighter aircraft with guns was again, seen as a necessity. We learned that technology alone doesn't win a war.
The "Top Gun" school was started as a result of that embarassing mistake.
Let us hope that we still remember that painful lesson in this instance.
Visit http://www.obsolyte.com and click on any of the Sun links. I've got specs for most of the popular models from the IPC to the later machines. I'm hoping to cover Ultras soon, but I haven't got the dough to get one yet and examine it in detail.
Hope this helpful. If you want to run older SUNOS AND solaris 8, you might need two different machines, as the ones that SUpport SUNOS might not be supported under Solaris 8 (or run Solaris 8 too slowly to be usuable in any real sense).
Microsoft Windows, in it's various incarnations, is entrenched. It's difficult to have any semblence of "market share" and therefore, you will encounter resistance in terms of getting device drivers, and basic applications across a variety of hardware. Never mind "multimedia" like Apple's Quicktime or RealMedia.
Hell, the Macintosh and Linux barely show up on the radar of some in the industry, and outside of the industry, I find it difficult to find people who've even heard of Linux.
So, my question is: Do you have a plan to overcome inertia, or do you just not care about competeing with Windows? Are you interested in having this OS become mainstream, or are you content to be relegated to 1/1000th of one percent of "the market"?
BeOS had something in the order of one hundred thousand users. And still, Be had trouble getting anyone outside of that small circle to take it seriously.
If I decide that today is the last day I'll ever run MS Windows, and I install your OS, it's very unlikely that I'll be able to do anything meaningful with it, and furthermore, most of my peripherals will not work.
How will you overcome this to the point that the OS is accepted and taken seriously by those outside the small circle who develop for and use it?
Remember that although Linux gained acceptance, Linux was the exception and not the rule. Consider the *BSD market, now overshadowed by Linux, who get zero time in the popular industry press, and yet, their product is just as good.
Remember GeoWorks? (for those of us who had C=64's, it was also called GEOS). I believe it's now called "NewDeal", but it hasn't made any progress against the titan of MS Windows.
So, while a fun concept, how far do you really think this project will go?
Has everyone forgotten the original givers? They are the reason we have the mouse. The interaction. The PC. Their research and ideas, abused by Case and later Gates, gave birth to CHI (Computer Human Interaction).
First of all, you got your 'steves' confused. Perhaps you meant Steve Jobs, and not Steve Case?
Secondly the mouse was really invented by Douglas Engelbart, *not* by Xerox PARC. Engelbart also came up with concepts for GUI and other Human/Computer Interface paradigms. And he was doing this in 1965 or so, well before PARC, or even Apple.
Marry me. I've got more old computers than most people!
Didn't Bill Gates and Paul Allen "Steal" computer time on the Harvard computer lab to write the first version of BASIC for the Altair Computer? Since this event essentially started Microsoft off as a corporation, I figure Harvard must be owed about 60 Billion Dollars?
Why is it that Bill Gates thinks it's okay to steal from schools, but it's not okay for schools to steal from him?
And this is coming from Microsoft, which steals everyone else's innovations and ebraces and extends it into their own products.
I need a nuclear warhead and a ticket to Redmond...
If you've got one you don't want, send it to me - if your machine is antique and/or unique, I'll make it a part of my museum, and give it a page on my "Obsolyte" web site.
Otherwise, I can always use the spare parts! I have found good homes for many of the machines I've recovered from dumpsters!
ObsolYte! - where the antique is ElYte!
You can use 8088 machines with an ISA ethernet card and the use a dos version of NCSA telnet to access servers on a network. The whole thing can fit on a floppy if you're good. I recently did this with a 386 laptop I found in the trash. Used an obsolete Xircom pocket adapter too, going through the parallel port and giving me ethernet.
Works great!
More obsolete hardware at ObsolYte! Where the antique is ElYte!
Before distros existed, people put this stuff together on their own. The first distros were people who did the work and shared it with others.
I'm not trying to recommend that everyone cobble together Sparc Linux on their own, but maybe if enough of us collaborate, we can keep something alive if we're willing to make the effort.
I use RedHat 6.0 for Sparc on my website (www.obsolyte.com), and I can tell you that, for an antique Sparc IPX, Solaris simply wasn't an option --- unless I used a version as out-of-date as the machine itself. That left Linux or BSD as options, and I was more familiar with Linux.
Want to know more about antique sparc hardware (and other vintage workstations/servers)? Visit my site!
And I'm willing to help out to keep a distribution alive.
I'm so *freaking* tired of books that rewrite history to say that the entire PC revolution happened on the West Coast.
Does anybody remember Commodore? The CBM PET was the first home machine with an integrated screen and keyboard, AND could save your programs on a cassette. All in one machine.
During the height of the Commodore 64, CBM owned over 33% of the home computer market, a percentage that to this day, no other single box-maker has ever had.
And then there's the Amiga, a machine so far ahead of it's time that a decade later, some of the features it had still aren't available on modern equipment.
There was a point where Commodore was kicking Apple's butt, but everyone forgets that and just talks about the Two Steves and Bill, like they alone invented personal computing. Don't get me wrong, I think WOZ is a god, but sheesh!, can't someone write a book that has facts in it, and tells the history truthfully, without cutting out huge chunks of history for the sake of drama?
How about we all start registering domian names like "ComputerReferee.com" and iReferee.com and aReferee.com, and how about SportsReferee.com?
Then the Magazine will have thousands of people to sue and not just one, they'll go broke in legal fees!
I think I'm gonna go register one now, just as a sign of protest.
You've all gotten the SPAM about how you send $5 to the first 3 names on the list and then add your name to the bottom, and in a few weeks, you'll get $50,000.
I say Patent this "invention", and then, you really CAN collect $50,000 or more from all those stupid-ass spammers!
Kill two birds with one stone I say: Let's show how inspid the patent office is while at the same time, bankrupting every spammer we can find.