I've written a bunch of enterprise-class stuff on MySQL.
How do you define enterprise class? I certainly wouldn't define a simple website (however large) as an enterprise class application and that seems to be what you are talking about.
I don't disagree, it is very impressive number of signatures.
However, the general public is still the general public. The key word there is general, distinct from any one specific group. My grandmother doesn't know about this issue or petition petition, nor do my parents. Even if they did, they probably wouldn't care (even if they could understand it). I speculate that if you talked to a random person on the street, the chances are that they wouldn't have a clue what you were talking about.
And that is my point. My intent was in no way intended to detract from the achievement, just to point on that claiming that the general public supported this (or are even aware of it), is an overstatement.
As a side point about online petitions, how many of those signatories do you think just followed a link on a chain email forwarded on by one of their contacts? More than a few I would guess. There is no investment required in clicking a checkbox. For that reason, I would question whether the 380,000+ signatories are really supporters. Petitions in general are suspect in my opinion.
And I would suggest that you get off your high horse.
There is no "huge public" concern here. I googled (google news) for "Thank Poland" and got precisely two stories. And one of them was slashdot. How are you suggesting that the "public" found out about this? Slshdot or ZDNET?
What may be a huge concern to you is not a concern at all to the general public. You and I are a small (not huge) part of the public. Heck, it seems that only a few people on slashdot are actually interested in it, given the low number of posts.
I have been very impressed with Lingo, and it seems to me like these services still have a way to go to match it. $40 activation, $20 unlimited US/Canada and Europe(!) calls, second month free (with voucher). If you have friends/family in the UK, you can even get a UK "alternative" number so they can call you in the US at local rates ($10 a month extra). This service is also available in other countries too.
So far, service has been excellent. Great sound quality with no delay at all - indistinguishable from cellular. Setup was easy, and the unit will power your home phone wiring so that the transition is straightforward.
Apparently customer service sucks though, but hopefully you won't need it.
Please moderators, you will not get more "babes" why wearing a memory watch, remote control watch, a binary watch, or any other watch (or other item for that matter) that yells "Look at me, I am a geek!".
The more "human readable" languages like COBOL have not survived, but the more cryptic ones like C have.
I can't tell if you're trolling or just clueless. In terms of lines of code, COBOL is still the most prevalent business language in use today. 5 years ago everybody was talking about converting "legacy" COBOL code to distributed systems. A lot of companies (and managers) learned that hard way that that is not a cost effective solution.
I bet (but can't find a reference) that more new COBOL is being written today than C. Seriously, who writes in C now, unless they are writing an OS or device driver? C++ and Java are far more productive for work on distributed platforms, and COBOL is still king on the big iron.
And for the record, I am not a COBOL developer. I will however speculate that you are a young whippersnapper hacking linux in your parents basement. When you do get a job it will probably involve a mainframe or some COBOL, and you will realise you foolish and misguided your post was.
So my point is that most "sensible countries" give you the right to access data about you (and file a complaint/correction if it is wrong), but that does not extend to ownership of the data.
In the UK with the Data Protection Act, you have a right to access any data held on any computer system that relates to you, and correct it if it is wrong, but the data does not belong to you IIRC. In fact Acxiom run a very similar operation (data for cash) in the UK too. So what "sensible countries" are you referring to?
And seriously, I can't see how it could be otherwise. If a store collects data on you via a loyalty scheme, you are suggesting that that data belongs to you? The argument for that is very flimsy, but I would love to hear it...
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It also means that there is a database access class with 8000 lines which is a scary thought...
I think you are mistaken. I would say it was the other way around. With JIT, you have access to two sources of information; the code itself, and the runtime environment (hardware platform, O/S and most importantly, information about how the program is being used in real time).
With normal compilation, you do not have all this information. Yes, you may have the hardware and O/S information (but use that at compile time and there goes your write once, run anywhere platform independence). You have very little idea how the program will be used at runtime (data set sizes, network latencies etc), all of which can be used by a clever JIT compiler to optimize the binary. And that is why you see some JIT compiled code outperforming C (not very often granted, but it happens).
So you cannot have your cake and eat it too. All well as prematurely optimizing your binary unnecessarily, non JIT compilation loses your binary platform independence, or at least severely hampers it.
And there is nothing to stop you from doing large scale optimizations in a JIT manner.
I agree with your points about bandwidth and latency, but coding is not a good example of an activity where these are real limitations.
All but the most trivial of development is very thought intensive. I have never witnessed anyone coding as fast as they can touch type, so I would have to argue that your two hands are not the bottleneck you seem to suggest they are. You may have spurts of productivity, but on average two finger typing can get code into the computer quicker that you can think it.
Conversely, I have seen code that was obviously developed quickly, and that was not a good thing.
Games on the other hand, would most probably benefit from a faster interface.
I think you are mistaken. The ZX80 was the first computer from sinclair and had 1k (I think, I had a zx81 with 1k). The spectrum came later, first with 16k and the 48k.
There is no way you could have run elite on a zx80.
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I've written a bunch of enterprise-class stuff on MySQL.
How do you define enterprise class? I certainly wouldn't define a simple website (however large) as an enterprise class application and that seems to be what you are talking about.
I don't disagree, it is very impressive number of signatures.
However, the general public is still the general public. The key word there is general, distinct from any one specific group. My grandmother doesn't know about this issue or petition petition, nor do my parents. Even if they did, they probably wouldn't care (even if they could understand it). I speculate that if you talked to a random person on the street, the chances are that they wouldn't have a clue what you were talking about.
And that is my point. My intent was in no way intended to detract from the achievement, just to point on that claiming that the general public supported this (or are even aware of it), is an overstatement.
As a side point about online petitions, how many of those signatories do you think just followed a link on a chain email forwarded on by one of their contacts? More than a few I would guess. There is no investment required in clicking a checkbox. For that reason, I would question whether the 380,000+ signatories are really supporters. Petitions in general are suspect in my opinion.
Then to say that there was huge support in the online community would have been more appropriate, don't you think?
And I would suggest that you get off your high horse.
There is no "huge public" concern here. I googled (google news) for "Thank Poland" and got precisely two stories. And one of them was slashdot. How are you suggesting that the "public" found out about this? Slshdot or ZDNET?
What may be a huge concern to you is not a concern at all to the general public. You and I are a small (not huge) part of the public. Heck, it seems that only a few people on slashdot are actually interested in it, given the low number of posts.
The European Parliament is taking account of the huge public concern about this directive
I read this site daily and was not aware of this directive. To classify as a huge publice concerns would seem to be overstating somewhat.
I have been very impressed with Lingo, and it seems to me like these services still have a way to go to match it. $40 activation, $20 unlimited US/Canada and Europe(!) calls, second month free (with voucher). If you have friends/family in the UK, you can even get a UK "alternative" number so they can call you in the US at local rates ($10 a month extra). This service is also available in other countries too.
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So far, service has been excellent. Great sound quality with no delay at all - indistinguishable from cellular. Setup was easy, and the unit will power your home phone wiring so that the transition is straightforward.
Apparently customer service sucks though, but hopefully you won't need it.
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Please moderators, you will not get more "babes" why wearing a memory watch, remote control watch, a binary watch, or any other watch (or other item for that matter) that yells "Look at me, I am a geek!".
I can't tell if you're trolling or just clueless. In terms of lines of code, COBOL is still the most prevalent business language in use today. 5 years ago everybody was talking about converting "legacy" COBOL code to distributed systems. A lot of companies (and managers) learned that hard way that that is not a cost effective solution.
I bet (but can't find a reference) that more new COBOL is being written today than C. Seriously, who writes in C now, unless they are writing an OS or device driver? C++ and Java are far more productive for work on distributed platforms, and COBOL is still king on the big iron.
And for the record, I am not a COBOL developer. I will however speculate that you are a young whippersnapper hacking linux in your parents basement. When you do get a job it will probably involve a mainframe or some COBOL, and you will realise you foolish and misguided your post was.
So my point is that most "sensible countries" give you the right to access data about you (and file a complaint/correction if it is wrong), but that does not extend to ownership of the data.
In the UK with the Data Protection Act, you have a right to access any data held on any computer system that relates to you, and correct it if it is wrong, but the data does not belong to you IIRC. In fact Acxiom run a very similar operation (data for cash) in the UK too. So what "sensible countries" are you referring to?
And seriously, I can't see how it could be otherwise. If a store collects data on you via a loyalty scheme, you are suggesting that that data belongs to you? The argument for that is very flimsy, but I would love to hear it...
It also means that there is a database access class with 8000 lines which is a scary thought...
Functional, imperative, and probably even object oriented languages in general will be nearly impossible on a conceptual level.
Did you really mean to include imperative here? I think that QuickBasic is probably imperative, like C, Pascal etc.
Maybe you meant the logical languages (Prolog)?
Then rewrite their queries for them. Educate and quit whining. Or are you a BDBAFH?
Encrypted e-mail support?
This won't happen. If you encrypt your emails, how can they offer targetted ads based on content?
Surely that is a spelling mistake and not a grammatically one?
I am probably wrong, but I thought one of the major selling points of brane theory is that it was elegant, from a mathematical perspective at least.
What specifically were you referring to? Or was it just a throwaway comment?
Any company in the "Top 100" will just chew them up and spit them out!
Good luck SCO, you're gonna need it..
I wish you would stop speculating on the age of posters. You are coming across to me as a pretentious ass.
There's only so much JIT optimization you can do
I think you are mistaken. I would say it was the other way around. With JIT, you have access to two sources of information; the code itself, and the runtime environment (hardware platform, O/S and most importantly, information about how the program is being used in real time).
With normal compilation, you do not have all this information. Yes, you may have the hardware and O/S information (but use that at compile time and there goes your write once, run anywhere platform independence). You have very little idea how the program will be used at runtime (data set sizes, network latencies etc), all of which can be used by a clever JIT compiler to optimize the binary. And that is why you see some JIT compiled code outperforming C (not very often granted, but it happens).
So you cannot have your cake and eat it too. All well as prematurely optimizing your binary unnecessarily, non JIT compilation loses your binary platform independence, or at least severely hampers it.
And there is nothing to stop you from doing large scale optimizations in a JIT manner.
If they cannot do this, maybe you don't want to be employed by them anyway
LOL. This is the silliest comment I have read for quite some time. Thanks.
I agree with your points about bandwidth and latency, but coding is not a good example of an activity where these are real limitations.
All but the most trivial of development is very thought intensive. I have never witnessed anyone coding as fast as they can touch type, so I would have to argue that your two hands are not the bottleneck you seem to suggest they are. You may have spurts of productivity, but on average two finger typing can get code into the computer quicker that you can think it.
Conversely, I have seen code that was obviously developed quickly, and that was not a good thing.
Games on the other hand, would most probably benefit from a faster interface.
I think you are mistaken. The ZX80 was the first computer from sinclair and had 1k (I think, I had a zx81 with 1k). The spectrum came later, first with 16k and the 48k.
There is no way you could have run elite on a zx80.
Errr....except the price.