Is it more of a class (meaning social status, not school grade) snobbery, or mere incompatibility? Like if you gave them a lower end iPhone, such as an SE or a 5s, would their friends still ostracize them? If it's incompatibility, your kids do have a case, such as not being able to FaceTime w/ their friends (and it's too much to expect some 10 or so kids to go out of their way and download Duo or WhatsApp just in order to include your kids). But if they were to be looked down on b'cos they had an SE, then you'd have a case.
For kids that age, might as well give them something they could use, rather than something that just satisfies your own ideological POV of a company. Otherwise, you could just as easily have given them a Lumia 520 and saved the most money
I have a currently unused Lumia 550, and am thinking of going Tracfone w/ that once the downpayments on my Android phone ends - which is next month. I'll move the number, and then drop that line from Verizon's end. I would have stayed w/ Verizon had they allowed me to
- bring in my own old unused phones into the network;
- supported Microsoft's latest Windows 10 phones, namely the Lumias 550/640/950. Only reason I had the Android was the apps, but I've lost the reason to need most of them
POSIX never did much for portability, despite its name. There is a reason software written for Solaris didn't seamlessly recompile for other Unix platforms, and it wasn't until Linux (and BSD) arrived as a common cross-platform OS that this was possible. Or else, other Unix vendors would have been pretty competitive w/ Sun on marketshare
EdgeX Foundry is unifying the marketplace around a common open framework
Isn't that what POSIX is for? If you write your code for POSIX, it'll run on almost anything.
What is the status of POSIX these days? It's been decades since the IEEE defined it, and we had 2 or 3 generations of UNIX wars (AT&T vs UCB, Sun vs OSF and Linux vs BSD). We also have Open Group define whether any OS is Unix certified or not, and the only living ones that I know of that are so certified are OS X, Solaris, AIX and HP/UX. Of these, only the first is still healthy and developing, while the others are as legacy as Mainframe OSs, like OS/400.
The other thing about IoT: doesn't it automatically have to be IPv6 enabled? So that one could have them run in a peer to peer network, using Link Local addresses (fe80::/10), have them in a VPN using Unique Local addresses (fd00::/6) or on the open internet using their normal routable addresses, without going through NAT (but definitely having the firewall). I'm assuming that people won't be stupid enough to try IoT w/ IPv4, since that would cause any number of NAT layers, and pretty much reduce it to what Netware was - layer 2 networking
I love the concept of IoT, but I hate how its implemented in most things. I don't need accounts, cloud services, statistics, blahblahblah.
So I just roll my own. It's fun and educational. About to start hacking horizontal blinds with motors now;)
This is a good point. There is no reason IoT shouldn't be private. Manage them from your iPhone or Android or Lumia by all means, but there is no need to have a gmail or outlook.com or icloud account. Maybe have a private server at home, which manages all the IoT devices, and have a way of remote logging into that from outside - maybe from an iPad. That is all that's needed.
There is no reason for the world (read: businesses) to know that you're out of butter, or prefer Corbett Canyon to Robert Mondavi
Had Stallman simply used the accurate description of his software - calling it 'Liberated' instead of 'Free' software, he'd have done fine. Instead, he avoids using that word, while using a Spanish word for it, narrowing its appeal. Given how Leftist he usually is in all his world views, I am puzzled that he doesn't use 'Liberated' to describe any software that's fully compliant (according to him) with the 4 freedoms.
Oh, nobody in the Left actually lives the way they advocate. Like Leo DeCaprio, who is on his jihad against AGW, but still uses his private jet(s) or flies about all over the world, increasing the carbon footprint. Nor do they trade all their excess cash for carbon credits. What exactly is your definition of the difference b/w Progressive vs Socialist vs Marxist, aside from the branding for public acceptance reasons?
The US taxation system is very much socialist, and the IRS is the closest thing that the US has to the ex Soviet KGB. It has been enhanced over the years by Democrats, and all that Republicans did in response was try trimming it some, as opposed to completely eviscerating it.
Yeah, they are just switches, wise guy! But they are easily accessible switches, which is not so important if I'm sitting on a sofa doing nothing, but is definitely much more important if I'm driving and shouldn't be getting my attention diverted from the road.
And no, they didn't force me to buy an iPhone: FaceTime did (and that's another story). But I like watching music videos while listening to them on my phone or tablet, I want the music to be local to the device and not have to be online for Vevo or YouTube to access it, and I don't want to have 2 copies of the same song on any device - one in mp4 and another in mp3. So I choose to just have music in mp4 format. Which works beautifully at home, but creates an issue in the car. That is - to smoothly change what songs I'm listening to w/o having to turn to my phone and go into it, which would take my attention off the road.
What they did force me to buy was a few songs from iTunes, so far amounting to ~$20. Those switches are not controlling me, but to my disappointment, the only things they properly control are my iToys, but not my Lumia.
I never said that Stallman shared Stalin's ideals. I did imply that he has goals similar to what Stalin had, except that whereas Stalin eviscerated entire populations and conducted genocide, Stallman wants to wipe out businesses that operate on principles different from what he believes in. Yeah, he doesn't want to kill people, but he wants to stamp out all ideas other than his own. Not a whole lot better than the Soviet leader.
'Progressive' is just an euphemism for Marxist. Sorta like 'People's Democratic'. Like North Korea is the 'People's Democratic Republic of Korea'. That's wonk-speak for ya.
Socialism is just Communism sans the genocide: it's the forcible confiscation of wealth for equitable re-distribution. Or transfer of wealth. Which is particularly grating to people who earned it, or even had it passed over through generations.
If Chavez's way was so good, why is Venezuela currently in turmoil, after Maduro attempted a power grab from the legislature? He ought to have the entire population behind him.
'Liberal' is being incredibly generous to RMS. Go through his website stallman.org: you'll see that he's a Progressive, bordering on Socialist. Of course, he claims that his ideals are closer to that of Social Democrat parties in Western Europe, rather than Socialist or Communist parties anywhere. Yet, he had been supportive of Hugo Chavez, when he was around (although I wonder where he stands on the current Venezuelan unrest)
It's what people see. Like if I have a microwave oven or washing machine that has Linux underpinnings and someone asks me whether I run Linux, my answer would be no, since this computer that I'm typing on is TrueOS, and so Linux ain't what I do my computing on.
Stallman pans mobile devices "that are full of peripherals that require non-free software at the system level. So there's no way to free them and have them work, except lots of painstaking reverse engineering, which is proceeding slowly."
Thanks for reminding me: how is that Replicant project (or should it be GNU Replicant?) coming along? Are we likely to see it any sooner than HURD? Or will that too be a HURD like project - abandoned by you after going through an odyssey of experiments by the devs?
"I buy music on CDs from physical stores... The problem is in the U.S. it's hard to find such stores any more!"
Don't you still get CDs in the mail from BMG or Columbia House, like I used to, in the 90s? Here's what I consider mistreatment: having to put down anything from $7-15 on a CD w/ 11 songs, only 1 or 2 of which I like. And being spammed by them every other week, only w/ actual physical mail, as opposed to email.
I have 2 ways of getting my music. Since I prefer music videos, I just download them from YouTube, and by now, have quite a collection. Unfortunately, in my car, I can't control that from my steering wheel on anything but an iToy, and that doesn't allow me to upload my freely obtained music. So I did buy something like 10 of my favorites on iTunes, but for some of them, iTunes did not have the music video available (even though I had it from YouTube, usually from the artists' Vevo channels). So I am forced to make do w/ less. I do wish my car navigation system could simply work w/ Windows 10 Mobile's Groove and Movie apps, so that I could control that from my steering. That, and I wish that Groove could make itself look like an iPod to any external device, and that it could handle music videos, instead of handing that function over to movie.
Anyway, I digress. Bottom line: I prefer the current system, where I only pay for each song I actually want and like, and not for arbitarily selected groups of songs that the record company selects. Since everybody's tastes vary, this is easily the best way to distribute music.
I do agree w/ RMS on TVs: I too no longer have a TV at home, although I do watch some news programs over YouTube live. While he makes some good points, his goal at the end - eviscerating proprietary software from the face of the earth - just reveals his evil Stalinist tendencies that have never left him, and never will.
There are about as many Republicans in CA as there are pink unicorns with gold plated horns. Which explains why the last senate elections was between TWO DEMOCRATS, rather than the (D) vs (R) that one has everywhere else
Uh, Kaby Lake only runs Windows 10: it's Windows 7 or 8.1 that have problems on Kaby Lake. Or did until this patch. Microsoft is not trying to sabotage Kaby Lake: they just don't want to support the newest CPUs with an OS that they have stopped selling
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Is it more of a class (meaning social status, not school grade) snobbery, or mere incompatibility? Like if you gave them a lower end iPhone, such as an SE or a 5s, would their friends still ostracize them? If it's incompatibility, your kids do have a case, such as not being able to FaceTime w/ their friends (and it's too much to expect some 10 or so kids to go out of their way and download Duo or WhatsApp just in order to include your kids). But if they were to be looked down on b'cos they had an SE, then you'd have a case.
For kids that age, might as well give them something they could use, rather than something that just satisfies your own ideological POV of a company. Otherwise, you could just as easily have given them a Lumia 520 and saved the most money
I have a currently unused Lumia 550, and am thinking of going Tracfone w/ that once the downpayments on my Android phone ends - which is next month. I'll move the number, and then drop that line from Verizon's end. I would have stayed w/ Verizon had they allowed me to
- bring in my own old unused phones into the network;
- supported Microsoft's latest Windows 10 phones, namely the Lumias 550/640/950. Only reason I had the Android was the apps, but I've lost the reason to need most of them
POSIX never did much for portability, despite its name. There is a reason software written for Solaris didn't seamlessly recompile for other Unix platforms, and it wasn't until Linux (and BSD) arrived as a common cross-platform OS that this was possible. Or else, other Unix vendors would have been pretty competitive w/ Sun on marketshare
EdgeX Foundry is unifying the marketplace around a common open framework
Isn't that what POSIX is for? If you write your code for POSIX, it'll run on almost anything.
What is the status of POSIX these days? It's been decades since the IEEE defined it, and we had 2 or 3 generations of UNIX wars (AT&T vs UCB, Sun vs OSF and Linux vs BSD). We also have Open Group define whether any OS is Unix certified or not, and the only living ones that I know of that are so certified are OS X, Solaris, AIX and HP/UX. Of these, only the first is still healthy and developing, while the others are as legacy as Mainframe OSs, like OS/400.
The other thing about IoT: doesn't it automatically have to be IPv6 enabled? So that one could have them run in a peer to peer network, using Link Local addresses (fe80::/10), have them in a VPN using Unique Local addresses (fd00::/6) or on the open internet using their normal routable addresses, without going through NAT (but definitely having the firewall). I'm assuming that people won't be stupid enough to try IoT w/ IPv4, since that would cause any number of NAT layers, and pretty much reduce it to what Netware was - layer 2 networking
I love the concept of IoT, but I hate how its implemented in most things. I don't need accounts, cloud services, statistics, blahblahblah.
So I just roll my own. It's fun and educational. About to start hacking horizontal blinds with motors now ;)
This is a good point. There is no reason IoT shouldn't be private. Manage them from your iPhone or Android or Lumia by all means, but there is no need to have a gmail or outlook.com or icloud account. Maybe have a private server at home, which manages all the IoT devices, and have a way of remote logging into that from outside - maybe from an iPad. That is all that's needed.
There is no reason for the world (read: businesses) to know that you're out of butter, or prefer Corbett Canyon to Robert Mondavi
No, the Pat Buchanan of tech would be Woz
You mean 'mutually exclusive'?
Had Stallman simply used the accurate description of his software - calling it 'Liberated' instead of 'Free' software, he'd have done fine. Instead, he avoids using that word, while using a Spanish word for it, narrowing its appeal. Given how Leftist he usually is in all his world views, I am puzzled that he doesn't use 'Liberated' to describe any software that's fully compliant (according to him) with the 4 freedoms.
Oh, nobody in the Left actually lives the way they advocate. Like Leo DeCaprio, who is on his jihad against AGW, but still uses his private jet(s) or flies about all over the world, increasing the carbon footprint. Nor do they trade all their excess cash for carbon credits. What exactly is your definition of the difference b/w Progressive vs Socialist vs Marxist, aside from the branding for public acceptance reasons?
The US taxation system is very much socialist, and the IRS is the closest thing that the US has to the ex Soviet KGB. It has been enhanced over the years by Democrats, and all that Republicans did in response was try trimming it some, as opposed to completely eviscerating it.
Eric Raymond would be the Trump of the tech world. Or maybe Linus might be. RMS is more like the Bernie Sanders of the tech world
Yeah, they are just switches, wise guy! But they are easily accessible switches, which is not so important if I'm sitting on a sofa doing nothing, but is definitely much more important if I'm driving and shouldn't be getting my attention diverted from the road.
And no, they didn't force me to buy an iPhone: FaceTime did (and that's another story). But I like watching music videos while listening to them on my phone or tablet, I want the music to be local to the device and not have to be online for Vevo or YouTube to access it, and I don't want to have 2 copies of the same song on any device - one in mp4 and another in mp3. So I choose to just have music in mp4 format. Which works beautifully at home, but creates an issue in the car. That is - to smoothly change what songs I'm listening to w/o having to turn to my phone and go into it, which would take my attention off the road.
What they did force me to buy was a few songs from iTunes, so far amounting to ~$20. Those switches are not controlling me, but to my disappointment, the only things they properly control are my iToys, but not my Lumia.
I never said that Stallman shared Stalin's ideals. I did imply that he has goals similar to what Stalin had, except that whereas Stalin eviscerated entire populations and conducted genocide, Stallman wants to wipe out businesses that operate on principles different from what he believes in. Yeah, he doesn't want to kill people, but he wants to stamp out all ideas other than his own. Not a whole lot better than the Soviet leader.
Yeah, getting a job is just like going to Safeway and getting a six-pack of beer, or coke. All you need to do is want it.
'Progressive' is just an euphemism for Marxist. Sorta like 'People's Democratic'. Like North Korea is the 'People's Democratic Republic of Korea'. That's wonk-speak for ya.
Socialism is just Communism sans the genocide: it's the forcible confiscation of wealth for equitable re-distribution. Or transfer of wealth. Which is particularly grating to people who earned it, or even had it passed over through generations.
If Chavez's way was so good, why is Venezuela currently in turmoil, after Maduro attempted a power grab from the legislature? He ought to have the entire population behind him.
Shut up, Emacs Doctor!
I thought that Emacs was a church (or a mosque), not a hospital
I thought that his special BO cologne is what guarantees that
Mr Stallman, you shouldn't count yourself in the plural
'Liberal' is being incredibly generous to RMS. Go through his website stallman.org: you'll see that he's a Progressive, bordering on Socialist. Of course, he claims that his ideals are closer to that of Social Democrat parties in Western Europe, rather than Socialist or Communist parties anywhere. Yet, he had been supportive of Hugo Chavez, when he was around (although I wonder where he stands on the current Venezuelan unrest)
It's what people see. Like if I have a microwave oven or washing machine that has Linux underpinnings and someone asks me whether I run Linux, my answer would be no, since this computer that I'm typing on is TrueOS, and so Linux ain't what I do my computing on.
Stallman pans mobile devices "that are full of peripherals that require non-free software at the system level. So there's no way to free them and have them work, except lots of painstaking reverse engineering, which is proceeding slowly."
Thanks for reminding me: how is that Replicant project (or should it be GNU Replicant?) coming along? Are we likely to see it any sooner than HURD? Or will that too be a HURD like project - abandoned by you after going through an odyssey of experiments by the devs?
"I buy music on CDs from physical stores... The problem is in the U.S. it's hard to find such stores any more!"
Don't you still get CDs in the mail from BMG or Columbia House, like I used to, in the 90s? Here's what I consider mistreatment: having to put down anything from $7-15 on a CD w/ 11 songs, only 1 or 2 of which I like. And being spammed by them every other week, only w/ actual physical mail, as opposed to email.
I have 2 ways of getting my music. Since I prefer music videos, I just download them from YouTube, and by now, have quite a collection. Unfortunately, in my car, I can't control that from my steering wheel on anything but an iToy, and that doesn't allow me to upload my freely obtained music. So I did buy something like 10 of my favorites on iTunes, but for some of them, iTunes did not have the music video available (even though I had it from YouTube, usually from the artists' Vevo channels). So I am forced to make do w/ less. I do wish my car navigation system could simply work w/ Windows 10 Mobile's Groove and Movie apps, so that I could control that from my steering. That, and I wish that Groove could make itself look like an iPod to any external device, and that it could handle music videos, instead of handing that function over to movie.
Anyway, I digress. Bottom line: I prefer the current system, where I only pay for each song I actually want and like, and not for arbitarily selected groups of songs that the record company selects. Since everybody's tastes vary, this is easily the best way to distribute music.
I do agree w/ RMS on TVs: I too no longer have a TV at home, although I do watch some news programs over YouTube live. While he makes some good points, his goal at the end - eviscerating proprietary software from the face of the earth - just reveals his evil Stalinist tendencies that have never left him, and never will.
Same here. As well as 8085 assembly
And then they become Republicans.
There are about as many Republicans in CA as there are pink unicorns with gold plated horns. Which explains why the last senate elections was between TWO DEMOCRATS, rather than the (D) vs (R) that one has everywhere else
Can I then get gluten free beer?
Uh, Kaby Lake only runs Windows 10: it's Windows 7 or 8.1 that have problems on Kaby Lake. Or did until this patch. Microsoft is not trying to sabotage Kaby Lake: they just don't want to support the newest CPUs with an OS that they have stopped selling
Zeffy needs to rename himself to John Huffington