As a long time Sparc Linux user, I couldn't agree more. It really bugs me when people say "we support Linux", when they actually mean "we support Linux/x86".
here, here... as a Linux/Alpha user, I agree, although I do have a few x86 boxes I use (mainly for Quake and booting into NT for 3d studio)
By the way, you moderators fucking blow today. Offtopic??? His post was COMPLETELY on topic! It was a post about not having a port of StarOffice for Linux/PPC when the story is about a new port of StarOffice! How much more on-topic can you get?
And don't moderate me down as off-topic, since the first part of this message is on-topic and this is just an afterthought.
*click* Score: -1, Offtopic. Bitch.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
The purpose of the test is to debug the rendering code, among other things, correct? And obviously knowing which video card people are using, and which version of Mesa, is going to help Id in this purpose. So chill out, people. Give me 2.5 seconds and I can find out more information than that from any IP address on the 'net. (starting with the name, address, and home phone number of whoever registered the domain) This just isn't a big deal.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
That's pretty sweet... I hope they get the Mesa renderer working so that I can play it under Linux (got me a TNT2)... it's a phat game under NT though:-)
P.S. First non-"first post" post:-)
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
I've read a lot of comments about people with Voodoo cards (mostly 3's, it seems) who say that Quake 3 Demo Test runs slowly for them and is not full screen. This is because Mesa doesn't default to doing full screen, and the Voodoo drivers don't support windowed rendering. To run it (or any OpenGL application, for that matter) fullscreen, try this:
[spong@deadzone ~] setenv MESA_GLX_FX fullscreen
(or in bash:) [spong@deadzone ~] export MESA_GLX_FX=fullscreen
Ok, I'm pretty sure most of you know how to set environment variables (if not, you probably shouldn't be using Linux) but it seems that a lot more newbies seem to be in this discussion than usual.
BTW this doesn't work for anything besides Voodoo drivers, AFAIK, and not on the G200/G400 or TNT/TNT2. The demo works fine with those cards though (I have a TNT2 and it's very playable, although much more playable under NT... *grumble*)
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
A BSD style license also doesn't prevent you from using pieces of your own code developed for an Open Source package (under the BSD license) in another system you develop commercially. You wrote it; you own it; you can use it.
With GPL, if this situation arises, you must forget you ever wrote the GPL code and "reengineer" it for your commercial development, or have someone else reengineer it. Costs you extra time, but AFAIK that's what you have to do to abide by the license and honor its source release terms.
Wrong. With *any* license you (as the original author of the code or holder of the license) have the right to release future versions of the code under a different license or to not release it at all - because YOU originally wrote the code, YOU have complete control over future licensing. However, previously released versions must remain under the GPL... once it's out, it's out, and there's nothing you can do about it. If you want to release an existing version under a non-GPL license, just change a line or two of the code and re-release it. This is where code such as this comes in handy:
1 ? 0 : 1;/* gotta love C:-)*/
Please ignore any fucked up grammar/spelling in this post, I haven't slept in 2 days.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
The GPL does NOT state that the source code must be included with the distribution (otherwise things such as RPMs and other forms of binary distribution would be illegal) It only states that the source code must be available upon request for at least 3 years.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
I've posted a tarball of the Demo without the Pak files included for all of you who requested it. It is located at http://www.glue. umd.edu/~spong/q3demoTEST-1.10-5-NOPAK.i386.tar.gz. I don't know if this is violating any kind of license, so Id Software: let me know if it is and I'll take it down.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
How long has it been since xmms has been updated? They should at least move to a 1.0 release. In generaly, xmms is the best mp3 player I've ever heard. It uses 3% CPU and has insane quality! They really do need more plugings though.
It does sound very good, but it uses a lot more than 3% CPU. The CPU it uses just doesn't show up under 'top' because of the way they do it - all the mp3 decoding/sound card output is handled by plugins, which don't show up in top (I don't know why, though) Awhile back I wrote a little mp3 visualization program, and since I was too lazy to write mp3 decoding code I just had it use X11Amp's plugins (back when it was still X11amp:-) When visualization was turned off it claimed to be using 0.0% of the CPU, which is impossible, regardless of how fast your processor is:-)
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
Maybe now I'll get off my ass and finish the OpenGL visualization plugin I started awhile back... I really don't care about the prizes (although another sound card would be nice... my Alpha's kinda quiet:-) And I really could give a flying fsck about an OSS license. Who needs licenses when you have GPL'ed sound drivers?:-)
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
Would any of our foreign friends be willing to host a mirror? Perhaps it's time to move the CSS part of the DVD project outside the US. It would still be legal to write code for viewing DVDs that just had a big hole for a "black-box" CSS decryption part, right?
Unfortunately, no. Unless the laws have been changed very recently, the US's crypto export laws explicitly forbid software which even has hooks for easy addition of cryptographic code.
That said, CSS hardly qualifies as "strong encryption" anyway, so it'd be legal no matter how you slice it. The real issue here is that these people wrote code (using legal techniques, from what I understand) that uncovered a trade secret that the industry didn't want uncovered (it's legal because they never patented it) and now the industry is scrambling to reclaim their trade secret and stop the damage from being done. However, they're too late.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
I am NOT a programmer, I don't even know basic. I was using RHL 5.2 > Openlinux 2.1 > Openlinux 2.2 and now BeOS. My system: Diamond Micronics MoBo C200 AMD K6-2 300Mhz 128MB RAM IDE ATAPI ZIP 100 Creative Labs Riva TNT 16MB PCI video card Creative Labs PCI128 Soundblaster Generic 56K Modem (jumpered) Installation: Its easier to install than DOS. Stability: Hangs every now and then when on the 'net, kinda like the first version of W95, well, maybe not that much;-) The PS command from the shell (BASh) is the only default way to manage threads? or to kill a hung app (there is a funky key combo too...but its never worked for me. So I downloaded a program called SLAYER wich is just like the GUI task manager in KDE. Applications Surprisingly, it ain't that bad, I am am very content. Although a free Office Suite wouldn't hurt. Hardware Support is very limited, if it is new and popular ya' got good chance it'll work. EXCEPT PRINTERS - - BIG WEAK POINT only a small handful of printers are supported Speed oh my god, I didn't know my PC could do that? Overall I am damn near ready to delete Linux BTW I got my copy at Worst er, Best Buy with a VERY WOULDN'T BE WITHOUT IT BOOK (BEOS BIBLE) for all of 49.99. Besy fifty bucks I ever spent - -I am HIGHLY impressed. GO FOR IT!
I installed BeOS awhile ago on a spare hard drive I had. It was, to say the least, extremely impressive. Speedy, (mostly) stable, and very nice to look at. I used it as my primary OS for 2 weeks, then went back to my old combination of NT and Linux. Don't be so hasty and delete Linux off your hard drive yet - although Be shows a lot of potential, as other people have pointed out it has very few applications, and even fewer useful ones. It's fun to play with, but for serious work, it's not terribly useful. Another very annoying thing was that I kept finding apps that I wanted, but didn't have the source available and were only compiled for R4, which apparently isn't binary-compatible with R4.5!
Once BeOS gets better (and more) applications, I'll give it another try. For now, though, it's pretty useless... and its web browser kinda blows chunks:-)
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
I know the basic idea behind journaling, but I don't understand the implementation - I know that it helps prevent fsck'ing by writing the data to the disk immediately, but how is this different than simply turning off disk caching? How is the performance better with journaling rather than running without caching?
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
Does anyone know the comparative advantages between XFS, ext3fs, ReiserFS, and maybe BFS? What's the likelihood of any of the 3 free unix JFS's being incorporated into any Linux distros?
I don't know about the other 2, but BFS has many other features which are very cool, but would also be bad on Linux because they slow performance and are unnecessary on a server platform. These are features such as Journaling (obviously this one is good for linux to have), any number of file attributes, each with unique names and can contain huge amounts of data, the whole filesystem being stored as a database instead of the way most are stored (this helps immensely for searches, though). BeOS is a great platform for a single user workstation, but I just uninstalled it because of the lack of apps. I'm rooting for it, because it's a very well-designed system with lots of features, but as of now I don't have a lot of use for it.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
I've been considering getting a Sprint PCS phone. Their plans seems reasonable and they offer a whole buncha phone choices on their site. (Including the Qualcomm pdq). They say that quite a few phones, including the Nokia 6185 I'm considering, are data capable once you get their $199 "Wireless Web Connection Kit".
It seems from the images that they supply a serial cable and a CD... it's difficult to see why they want $199 for it. Unless the software is some kind of external Winmodem driver, it seems like you could put together a cable yourself and save the $199.
Anyone have one of these?
I just got one (one of the new little tiny ones) I pay $50/month for 500 free minutes, free long distance, and no roaming charges anywhere digital PCS service is available (most of the country, IIRC) The only problem I have with it so far is that the coverage on the University of Maryland campus really blows - next to or inside of any building, service goes out completely. One of my friends has a digital Bell Atlantic phone and it's apparently much better on campus.
About the cable, I was considering getting one of these, but I think it's windows-only; the only reason I was considering it was for my Palm III, so that's out of the question. (it also says on the packaging "Not compatible with Macintosh Powerbooks or iMacs") It probably has custom dialing code, etc, since the phone surely needs some kind of signal to tell it to start dialing, as well as the fact that if it's not connected already there's no dial tone.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
I had been running several RedHat boxes (I think "boxen" sounds stupid:-) over the last couple years, with some Slackware before that, and I had been hearing some very good things about Debian, but I had also been hearing some bad things - mainly about dselect. I decided to wipe one of my RedHat boxes and try out Debian, so I ordered Slink from CheapBytes a few weeks ago.
After struggling with dselect (yes, it has really earned its reputation) for an hour, I finally got the system installed. I started playing around with it, and was having some problems - mainly that the programs which I was too lazy to download and had just copied from my roommate's RedHat 6 box just segfaulted on startup! I was getting very frustrated with this and was about to give up and reinstall RedHat 6 when I noticed that it was only using glibc 2.0.7, which RedHat 6 uses glibc 2.1. So I downloaded the debs of glibc 2.1 from the potato distribution, installed them, and all of a sudden everything worked perfectly.
Since then, I have never been happier with any distro I've ever tried. Debian is absolutely wonderful, especially since I don't have to deal with dselect anymore (a simple dpkg --install on a deb will install it, similar to using rpm) I would definately recommend it to anybody who has a decent amount of experience using Linux (or UNIX in general) and is less than satisfied with RedHat. But I didn't even know that I was less than satisfied until I tried something else. I highly recommend it, and am definately going to try out potato once it's stable (probably on my Alpha as well... it's running RedHat 5.1 right now and is in dire need of an upgrade)
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
Is this really possible? I was under the impression that the Palms use irOBEX and can not do the low frequency remote control IR stuff. At least, I know that my laptop's IR port can't turn TVs on and off, but it can talk to my Palm.
I use my Palm III to control my TV, cable box, and stereo reciever with the built-in IR port. The only real problem is the range - it's just long enough to control everything from my couch, but no farther (but that's not really a problem, is it?:-)
"Software is like sex- the best is for free" -Linus Torvalds
Ok, I usually don't reply to dumb things like this, but...
Yea it sure was... Bill Gates should be shot in the head or no, better yet in the lung so he will suffer instead of dying quickly. Yep... Linux ROOLZ DUDE! DOWN WITH THE EVIL EMPIRE!
... how in the hell is this INSIGHTFUL??? Whoever moderated that one up should have their moderator privs revoked at once.
How much is it costing you students for the DSL? Is it the same as dial-up? Or, is this one of those invisible tuition costs?
Well, since I moved off campus this year, I no longer have access to the university's internet connection through Ethernet:-p Dialup is free through the university, but I can't stand using a modem after a year of Ethernet, so we had to get DSL... and fast DSL. We're paying ~ $200/month for 1.56Mb SDSL through IBS, with free installation (or rather, we pay $200 for installation and then will get a $200 rebate)
Boy, am I glad I chose to go here at the University of Maryland (8 miles outside DC, baby!) While being this close to DC may not be a good thing, we still have good internet access, and we're getting 1.56Mb SDSL installed TOMORROW!!! WOOHOO NO MORE OF THIS MODEM BULLSHIT! (no thanks to Bell Atlantic, I might add)
Damn, this is ironic. Look at this post from Hemos last night:
gampid writes "The BBC has a story about the Casino-21 project which is running a SETI@home type program for climate prediction. " I'm a booster of Distributed.net, but this looks pretty cool as well. I dunno global warming just gives me the creeps anyway and I'd like to know if my house will be underwater.
Sorry 'bout that, I just thought it was ironic that he would post that last night.
That really sucks, Hemos... but the same thing happened to my girlfriend 2 summers ago, and while it was really tough on her family (especially since she has an autistic brother), once the insurance money came in they got everything back and more... now their house is much nicer than it was before, and everything in it is brand new... including the 2 home theatre systems with Dolby 5.1 surround:-)
The only problem with it was that they had to live in a trailer that the insurance company put up in their front yard for 6 months.
I tried out slink (2.1) for a few weeks, and found that it was poorly organized (the development teams)and the release was very backleveled, e.g. XFree 3.3.2?!?, when 3.3.5 has been out a while, and most importantly, No easy way to upgrade userland stuff unless you want to go the whole 9 yards to UNSTABLE.
All I had to do to upgrade my slink system with packages from potato (the "unstable" version) was to install the.deb of glibc2.1 (and everything it depended on - it'll tell you what you're missing when you try it, and there isn't much). After that point every package I installed from potato worked just fine.
As a former 2-year RedHat user (with a bunch of Slackware before that), I just switched to Debian 2.1 about 2 weeks ago... after messing with dselect for a few hours and almost giving up, I finally got it working. Then I couldn't get X working. It kept core dumping on me. Finally I figured out that it was because it only have glibc 2.0.7 and the new X servers I was trying to download were all linked against 2.1 (I couldn't use the one that came with Debian since it didn't have support for the TNT2) Once I installed the new glibc (with a simple dpkg --install, even) everything fell into place... now I love it. Everything about it is so much nicer than RedHat (and especially Slackware) I recommend people give it a try - you'll be pleasantly surprised.
I think this is definately a good thing - what Debian really needs now is more public exposure.
How did you handle the code which takes care of the basic non-OpenGL stuff in Quake 3 Arena (creating the window, handling events, etc...) Did you write separate code for each platform (GLX, WGL, and whatever it is on the Mac) or did you write some sort of optimized compatibility library to minimize the differences in the code between platforms?
As a long time Sparc Linux user, I couldn't agree more. It really bugs me when people say "we support Linux", when they actually mean "we support Linux/x86".
here, here... as a Linux/Alpha user, I agree, although I do have a few x86 boxes I use (mainly for Quake and booting into NT for 3d studio)
By the way, you moderators fucking blow today. Offtopic??? His post was COMPLETELY on topic! It was a post about not having a port of StarOffice for Linux/PPC when the story is about a new port of StarOffice! How much more on-topic can you get?
And don't moderate me down as off-topic, since the first part of this message is on-topic and this is just an afterthought.
*click* Score: -1, Offtopic. Bitch.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
The purpose of the test is to debug the rendering code, among other things, correct? And obviously knowing which video card people are using, and which version of Mesa, is going to help Id in this purpose. So chill out, people. Give me 2.5 seconds and I can find out more information than that from any IP address on the 'net. (starting with the name, address, and home phone number of whoever registered the domain) This just isn't a big deal.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
That's pretty sweet... I hope they get the Mesa renderer working so that I can play it under Linux (got me a TNT2)... it's a phat game under NT though :-)
:-)
P.S. First non-"first post" post
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
I've read a lot of comments about people with Voodoo cards (mostly 3's, it seems) who say that Quake 3 Demo Test runs slowly for them and is not full screen. This is because Mesa doesn't default to doing full screen, and the Voodoo drivers don't support windowed rendering. To run it (or any OpenGL application, for that matter) fullscreen, try this:
[spong@deadzone ~] setenv MESA_GLX_FX fullscreen
(or in bash:)
[spong@deadzone ~] export MESA_GLX_FX=fullscreen
Ok, I'm pretty sure most of you know how to set environment variables (if not, you probably shouldn't be using Linux) but it seems that a lot more newbies seem to be in this discussion than usual.
BTW this doesn't work for anything besides Voodoo drivers, AFAIK, and not on the G200/G400 or TNT/TNT2. The demo works fine with those cards though (I have a TNT2 and it's very playable, although much more playable under NT... *grumble*)
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
A BSD style license also doesn't prevent you from using pieces of your own code developed for an Open Source package (under the BSD license) in another system you develop commercially. You wrote it; you own it; you can use it.
/* gotta love C :-)*/
With GPL, if this situation arises, you must forget you ever wrote the GPL code and "reengineer" it for your commercial development, or have someone else reengineer it. Costs you extra time, but AFAIK that's what you have to do to abide by the license and honor its source release terms.
Wrong. With *any* license you (as the original author of the code or holder of the license) have the right to release future versions of the code under a different license or to not release it at all - because YOU originally wrote the code, YOU have complete control over future licensing. However, previously released versions must remain under the GPL... once it's out, it's out, and there's nothing you can do about it. If you want to release an existing version under a non-GPL license, just change a line or two of the code and re-release it. This is where code such as this comes in handy:
1 ? 0 : 1;
Please ignore any fucked up grammar/spelling in this post, I haven't slept in 2 days.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
The GPL does NOT state that the source code must be included with the distribution (otherwise things such as RPMs and other forms of binary distribution would be illegal) It only states that the source code must be available upon request for at least 3 years.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
I've posted a tarball of the Demo without the Pak files included for all of you who requested it. It is located at http://www.glue. umd.edu/~spong/q3demoTEST-1.10-5-NOPAK.i386.tar.gz . I don't know if this is violating any kind of license, so Id Software: let me know if it is and I'll take it down.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
How long has it been since xmms has been updated? They should at least move to a 1.0 release. In generaly, xmms is the best mp3 player I've ever heard. It uses 3% CPU and has insane quality! They really do need more plugings though.
:-) When visualization was turned off it claimed to be using 0.0% of the CPU, which is impossible, regardless of how fast your processor is :-)
It does sound very good, but it uses a lot more than 3% CPU. The CPU it uses just doesn't show up under 'top' because of the way they do it - all the mp3 decoding/sound card output is handled by plugins, which don't show up in top (I don't know why, though) Awhile back I wrote a little mp3 visualization program, and since I was too lazy to write mp3 decoding code I just had it use X11Amp's plugins (back when it was still X11amp
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
Maybe now I'll get off my ass and finish the OpenGL visualization plugin I started awhile back... I really don't care about the prizes (although another sound card would be nice... my Alpha's kinda quiet :-) And I really could give a flying fsck about an OSS license. Who needs licenses when you have GPL'ed sound drivers? :-)
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
Would any of our foreign friends be willing to host a mirror? Perhaps it's time to move the CSS part of the DVD project outside the US. It would still be legal to write code for viewing DVDs that just had a big hole for a "black-box" CSS decryption part, right?
Unfortunately, no. Unless the laws have been changed very recently, the US's crypto export laws explicitly forbid software which even has hooks for easy addition of cryptographic code.
That said, CSS hardly qualifies as "strong encryption" anyway, so it'd be legal no matter how you slice it. The real issue here is that these people wrote code (using legal techniques, from what I understand) that uncovered a trade secret that the industry didn't want uncovered (it's legal because they never patented it) and now the industry is scrambling to reclaim their trade secret and stop the damage from being done. However, they're too late.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
I am NOT a programmer, I don't even know basic. I was using RHL 5.2 > Openlinux 2.1 > Openlinux 2.2 and now BeOS. My system: Diamond Micronics MoBo C200 AMD K6-2 300Mhz 128MB RAM IDE ATAPI ZIP 100 Creative Labs Riva TNT 16MB PCI video card Creative Labs PCI128 Soundblaster Generic 56K Modem (jumpered) Installation: Its easier to install than DOS. Stability: Hangs every now and then when on the 'net, kinda like the first version of W95, well, maybe not that much;-) The PS command from the shell (BASh) is the only default way to manage threads? or to kill a hung app (there is a funky key combo too...but its never worked for me. So I downloaded a program called SLAYER wich is just like the GUI task manager in KDE. Applications Surprisingly, it ain't that bad, I am am very content. Although a free Office Suite wouldn't hurt. Hardware Support is very limited, if it is new and popular ya' got good chance it'll work. EXCEPT PRINTERS - - BIG WEAK POINT only a small handful of printers are supported Speed oh my god, I didn't know my PC could do that? Overall I am damn near ready to delete Linux BTW I got my copy at Worst er, Best Buy with a VERY WOULDN'T BE WITHOUT IT BOOK (BEOS BIBLE) for all of 49.99. Besy fifty bucks I ever spent - -I am HIGHLY impressed. GO FOR IT!
:-)
I installed BeOS awhile ago on a spare hard drive I had. It was, to say the least, extremely impressive. Speedy, (mostly) stable, and very nice to look at. I used it as my primary OS for 2 weeks, then went back to my old combination of NT and Linux. Don't be so hasty and delete Linux off your hard drive yet - although Be shows a lot of potential, as other people have pointed out it has very few applications, and even fewer useful ones. It's fun to play with, but for serious work, it's not terribly useful. Another very annoying thing was that I kept finding apps that I wanted, but didn't have the source available and were only compiled for R4, which apparently isn't binary-compatible with R4.5!
Once BeOS gets better (and more) applications, I'll give it another try. For now, though, it's pretty useless... and its web browser kinda blows chunks
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
I know the basic idea behind journaling, but I don't understand the implementation - I know that it helps prevent fsck'ing by writing the data to the disk immediately, but how is this different than simply turning off disk caching? How is the performance better with journaling rather than running without caching?
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
Does anyone know the comparative advantages between XFS, ext3fs, ReiserFS, and maybe BFS? What's the likelihood of any of the 3 free unix JFS's being incorporated into any Linux distros?
I don't know about the other 2, but BFS has many other features which are very cool, but would also be bad on Linux because they slow performance and are unnecessary on a server platform. These are features such as Journaling (obviously this one is good for linux to have), any number of file attributes, each with unique names and can contain huge amounts of data, the whole filesystem being stored as a database instead of the way most are stored (this helps immensely for searches, though). BeOS is a great platform for a single user workstation, but I just uninstalled it because of the lack of apps. I'm rooting for it, because it's a very well-designed system with lots of features, but as of now I don't have a lot of use for it.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
I've been considering getting a Sprint PCS phone. Their plans seems reasonable and they offer a whole buncha phone choices on their site. (Including the Qualcomm pdq). They say that quite a few phones, including the Nokia 6185 I'm considering, are data capable once you get their $199 "Wireless Web Connection Kit".
It seems from the images that they supply a serial cable and a CD... it's difficult to see why they want $199 for it. Unless the software is some kind of external Winmodem driver, it seems like you could put together a cable yourself and save the $199.
Anyone have one of these?
I just got one (one of the new little tiny ones) I pay $50/month for 500 free minutes, free long distance, and no roaming charges anywhere digital PCS service is available (most of the country, IIRC) The only problem I have with it so far is that the coverage on the University of Maryland campus really blows - next to or inside of any building, service goes out completely. One of my friends has a digital Bell Atlantic phone and it's apparently much better on campus.
About the cable, I was considering getting one of these, but I think it's windows-only; the only reason I was considering it was for my Palm III, so that's out of the question. (it also says on the packaging "Not compatible with Macintosh Powerbooks or iMacs") It probably has custom dialing code, etc, since the phone surely needs some kind of signal to tell it to start dialing, as well as the fact that if it's not connected already there's no dial tone.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
I had been running several RedHat boxes (I think "boxen" sounds stupid :-) over the last couple years, with some Slackware before that, and I had been hearing some very good things about Debian, but I had also been hearing some bad things - mainly about dselect. I decided to wipe one of my RedHat boxes and try out Debian, so I ordered Slink from CheapBytes a few weeks ago.
After struggling with dselect (yes, it has really earned its reputation) for an hour, I finally got the system installed. I started playing around with it, and was having some problems - mainly that the programs which I was too lazy to download and had just copied from my roommate's RedHat 6 box just segfaulted on startup! I was getting very frustrated with this and was about to give up and reinstall RedHat 6 when I noticed that it was only using glibc 2.0.7, which RedHat 6 uses glibc 2.1. So I downloaded the debs of glibc 2.1 from the potato distribution, installed them, and all of a sudden everything worked perfectly.
Since then, I have never been happier with any distro I've ever tried. Debian is absolutely wonderful, especially since I don't have to deal with dselect anymore (a simple dpkg --install on a deb will install it, similar to using rpm) I would definately recommend it to anybody who has a decent amount of experience using Linux (or UNIX in general) and is less than satisfied with RedHat. But I didn't even know that I was less than satisfied until I tried something else. I highly recommend it, and am definately going to try out potato once it's stable (probably on my Alpha as well... it's running RedHat 5.1 right now and is in dire need of an upgrade)
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
Is this really possible? I was under the impression that the Palms use irOBEX and can not do the low frequency remote control IR stuff. At least, I know that my laptop's IR port can't turn TVs on and off, but it can talk to my Palm.
:-)
I use my Palm III to control my TV, cable box, and stereo reciever with the built-in IR port. The only real problem is the range - it's just long enough to control everything from my couch, but no farther (but that's not really a problem, is it?
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
To quote Conan O'Brian's "In the Year 2000":
"Computers will become so small that millions of them will fit in a tablespoon. They will be used to enhance the flavor or soup."
Hee hee hee hee
P.S. Don't kill my Karma, I marked it off-topic in the subject!
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
-Linus Torvalds
Ok, I usually don't reply to dumb things like this, but...
... how in the hell is this INSIGHTFUL??? Whoever moderated that one up should have their moderator privs revoked at once.
Yea it sure was... Bill Gates should be shot in the head or no, better yet in the lung so he will suffer instead of dying quickly. Yep... Linux ROOLZ DUDE! DOWN WITH THE EVIL EMPIRE!
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
How much is it costing you students for the DSL? Is it the same as dial-up? Or, is this one of those invisible tuition costs?
:-p Dialup is free through the university, but I can't stand using a modem after a year of Ethernet, so we had to get DSL... and fast DSL. We're paying ~ $200/month for 1.56Mb SDSL through IBS, with free installation (or rather, we pay $200 for installation and then will get a $200 rebate)
Well, since I moved off campus this year, I no longer have access to the university's internet connection through Ethernet
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
Boy, am I glad I chose to go here at the University of Maryland (8 miles outside DC, baby!) While being this close to DC may not be a good thing, we still have good internet access, and we're getting 1.56Mb SDSL installed TOMORROW!!! WOOHOO NO MORE OF THIS MODEM BULLSHIT! (no thanks to Bell Atlantic, I might add)
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
Damn, this is ironic. Look at this post from Hemos last night:
gampid writes "The BBC has a story about the Casino-21 project which is running a SETI@home type program for climate prediction. " I'm a booster of Distributed.net, but this looks pretty cool as well. I dunno global warming just gives me the creeps anyway and I'd like to know if my house will be underwater.
Sorry 'bout that, I just thought it was ironic that he would post that last night.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
That really sucks, Hemos... but the same thing happened to my girlfriend 2 summers ago, and while it was really tough on her family (especially since she has an autistic brother), once the insurance money came in they got everything back and more... now their house is much nicer than it was before, and everything in it is brand new... including the 2 home theatre systems with Dolby 5.1 surround :-)
The only problem with it was that they had to live in a trailer that the insurance company put up in their front yard for 6 months.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
I tried out slink (2.1) for a few weeks, and found that it was poorly organized (the development teams)and the release was very backleveled, e.g. XFree 3.3.2?!?, when 3.3.5 has been out a while, and most importantly, No easy way to upgrade userland stuff unless you want to go the whole 9 yards to UNSTABLE.
.deb of glibc2.1 (and everything it depended on - it'll tell you what you're missing when you try it, and there isn't much). After that point every package I installed from potato worked just fine.
All I had to do to upgrade my slink system with packages from potato (the "unstable" version) was to install the
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
As a former 2-year RedHat user (with a bunch of Slackware before that), I just switched to Debian 2.1 about 2 weeks ago... after messing with dselect for a few hours and almost giving up, I finally got it working. Then I couldn't get X working. It kept core dumping on me. Finally I figured out that it was because it only have glibc 2.0.7 and the new X servers I was trying to download were all linked against 2.1 (I couldn't use the one that came with Debian since it didn't have support for the TNT2) Once I installed the new glibc (with a simple dpkg --install, even) everything fell into place... now I love it. Everything about it is so much nicer than RedHat (and especially Slackware) I recommend people give it a try - you'll be pleasantly surprised.
I think this is definately a good thing - what Debian really needs now is more public exposure.
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"
How did you handle the code which takes care of the basic non-OpenGL stuff in Quake 3 Arena (creating the window, handling events, etc...) Did you write separate code for each platform (GLX, WGL, and whatever it is on the Mac) or did you write some sort of optimized compatibility library to minimize the differences in the code between platforms?
"Software is like sex- the best is for free"