In the context of whether the headline and summary of the original slashdot article is or is not correct (i.e., whether this is a patent on web advertsing), then what I said is correct: namely, that the infringer must being performing all of the steps of the method of claim 1, i.e., bidding, etc.
Therefore, this is not a patent trying to claim web advertising, as "advertised" by the Slashdot article.
I only read the first claim, nothing else. It may well be a method of selling advertising. But it is not a claim on web advertising.
I work as a patent agent. THe claims are what determines the area that the patent covers. Let's take a look at claim 1, which should be the broadest, most encompassing claim in the patent: 1. A method in a computer system for allocating display space on a web page, the method comprising: receiving multiple bids indicating a bid amount and an advertisement; receiving a request to provide the web page to a user; selecting, based at least in part on review of bid amounts, a received bid; and adding the advertisement of the selected bid to the web page. >>> It's clear that the "advertisement" is an advertisement of an item up for bids on an online auction, such as ebay. Therefore, this patent does not deal with online advertisements such as banner ads, etc. However, this patent attempts to claim online auctions. Period. In that sense, it is very broad and all-encompassing. If Bezos gets this claim, he gets the rights to a monopoly on online auctions, in many senses. >>>
Also, don't forget that an infringer must infringe on all claims. Sso therefore, the advertisement must be in the context of a online auction.
I also am thinking about taking my life savings and going overseas and retiring early..
In a couple of years I will have a nest egg big enough so that the interest would pay rent and food in rural latin america. I have a simple lifestyle and all I need is basic foodstuffs and an internet connection.
Our govt is our *servant*, our *employee*. We, the American citizens, OWN this country, and everything in it. We HIRED the govt to do OUR bidding.
Just as if I own a store, and hire a manager, then that manager had DAMN well better work to benefit me, the owner, and not someone else, like someone from INDIA. It doesn't matter if I, the owner, am lazy. I OWN the damn business! If I want to be lazy, that is MY prerogative.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but we American citizens made this country a place where there are jobs available, and if our elected official and/or civil servants give away those opportunities and jobs to non-citizens, then we need to fire them and put them in jail--or worse.
The govt and the civil service workers and the elected officials owe me and you fair value in return for what we pay them in salaries and benefits. And they had damn well be getting me every opportunity available.
And if they are selling out the American workers, they try them for treason and hang their asses!
...if you disagree with me, try responding to my post. Moderating me as a troll is bullshit. I had a point to make, and I made it with evidence. Where is your argument or evidence?
I didn't spam anyone; my site (2 simple and separate URLs covering the same area) is not porn or warez, or even a commercial site. It is a political site. You can see one of my pages at http://www.geocities.com/cryofan/.
After just one week I managed to get my site ranked on the first page of google using the search string "navy nuclear power program" by posting 2 times to relevent newsgroup, and posting 2 messages on message boards of relevant websites, and by linking the 2 pages together. I used no meta tags or search engines optimization techniques or other tricks. These are/were simple handmade HTML pages.
However, not too long after that first week, when my main page came up on google first page of search returns, both my websites DISAPPEARED from google completely. Why?
Maybe because my websites speak out against the crappy workplace provided by the US Navy on nuclear submarines. Looks like google likes kissing the ass of the US Govt. That is what it looks like to me!
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Try some of the great places near Seattle. EPO sells expensive new stuff.
That is why it is harder for an American to go do programming overseas, than it is for a 3rd worlder to come here and do programming.
Actually, that is true for immigration in general. I would like to take my saving in about 2-5 years from now, put it in the bank to draw interest, and go move to rural Latin America where the rents are super-cheap.
I am not familiar with CVS, but the claim #1 above is pretty damn broad. Another thing to consider is when did the patent holder file the patent? The patent may have been in prosection for a long time, thus possibly antedating prior art such as CVS.
I suspect that the USPTO used to be more lenient on software claims. But I can assure you that times have changed. I think it would be very hard to get that broad claim #1 through the examiner these days.
You wrote: >> I don't think that there is any reputable theory that doesn't have a "killing all life" at some point in the very distant future. >>
Exactly what I have been saying. Actually there ARE theories (see the next post below) that DO include the possibility that life may go on forever in the universe, but for some reason, they never get promoted by the media. Why not? It is obvious to me that we do not know what the hell is going on with the universe. So, therefore I say why not just assume that the possibility DOES exist for infinite life?
It sometimes seems as if currently living humans, having already internalized the inevitability of their own individual death, create their cosmological theories so as to make sure that there will never be any immortals. Our popular cosmology, at least the "mainstream" theories promoted by the mainstream media, seem akin to *theology*.
...it's all about money. If less 3rd worlders are allowed into the West (i.e., England, America, etc), then the working class citizens will have MORE money in their wallets, and the people who own businesses and the stockholders of large corporations will have LESS money in their wallets.
And if more foreigners are allowed into the country, then the working class citizens will have LESS money in their wallets, and the people who own businesses and the stockholders of large corporations will have MORE money in their wallets.
And that is why Schlumberger went to England with this proposal, instead of going to the USA with it. In England, there are fewer people, and they are less easily manipulated by globalist propaganda, which is not the case with the USA.
Rights are not based solely on laws, but on court cases. Ever hear of "miranda rights"? That is one of MANY "rights" given to the people by the judicial branch. And the judicial branch has made much law and has used the Declaration and other parts of the "constitution" as a basis for "creating" such "rights."
The problem is that our huge market and advancing technology has made us pretty damn comfortable. And our public "servants" know that as long as the vast majority are comfortable, and hungry, and relatively healthy, we will not enforce our right to actually govern ourselves. And, BTW, you must know that there is really one way to enforce our constitutional right to govern, and that way is to march on Washington and the state capitals, grab up a bunch of crooked politicians and execute them. This is literally the tried and true method of grass roots political action, and until we take such actions, things will continue to go downhill.
The only thing that may be able stop the slide is advancing technology that eventually acts as some sort of deus ex machina.
I tried to engage Shermer in a debate regarding cryonics, which he has "debunked" in previous writing. His so-called debunking amount to nothing more than appeals to ignorance and emotion, and appeals to authority.
If you have the balls, Shermer, why not engage me in a debate on the viability of cryonics?
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Hang Bush! (after a fair trial, of course!).
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Actually, they are owned by the same publishing house....
Therefore, this is not a patent trying to claim web advertising, as "advertised" by the Slashdot article.
I only read the first claim, nothing else. It may well be a method of selling advertising. But it is not a claim on web advertising.
OOps. I meant to say that the infringer must infringe on all elements of the above claim.
1. A method in a computer system for allocating display space on a web page, the method comprising:
receiving multiple bids indicating a bid amount and an advertisement;
receiving a request to provide the web page to a user;
selecting, based at least in part on review of bid amounts, a received bid;
and adding the advertisement of the selected bid to the web page.
>>>
It's clear that the "advertisement" is an advertisement of an item up for bids on an online auction, such as ebay. Therefore, this patent does not deal with online advertisements such as banner ads, etc.
However, this patent attempts to claim online auctions. Period. In that sense, it is very broad and all-encompassing. If Bezos gets this claim, he gets the rights to a monopoly on online auctions, in many senses.
>>>
Also, don't forget that an infringer must infringe on all claims. Sso therefore, the advertisement must be in the context of a online auction.
WHat is "office space"?
I also am thinking about taking my life savings and going overseas and retiring early..
In a couple of years I will have a nest egg big enough so that the interest would pay rent and food in rural latin america. I have a simple lifestyle and all I need is basic foodstuffs and an internet connection.
Our govt is our *servant*, our *employee*. We, the American citizens, OWN this country, and everything in it. We HIRED the govt to do OUR bidding.
Just as if I own a store, and hire a manager, then that manager had DAMN well better work to benefit me, the owner, and not someone else, like someone from INDIA. It doesn't matter if I, the owner, am lazy. I OWN the damn business! If I want to be lazy, that is MY prerogative.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but we American citizens made this country a place where there are jobs available, and if our elected official and/or civil servants give away those opportunities and jobs to non-citizens, then we need to fire them and put them in jail--or worse.
The govt and the civil service workers and the elected officials owe me and you fair value in return for what we pay them in salaries and benefits. And they had damn well be getting me every opportunity available.
And if they are selling out the American workers, they try them for treason and hang their asses!
...if you disagree with me, try responding to my post. Moderating me as a troll is bullshit. I had a point to make, and I made it with evidence. Where is your argument or evidence?
So, you are just a little chickenshit, huh?
I didn't spam anyone; my site (2 simple and separate URLs covering the same area) is not porn or warez, or even a commercial site. It is a political site. You can see one of my pages at http://www.geocities.com/cryofan/.
After just one week I managed to get my site ranked on the first page of google using the search string "navy nuclear power program" by posting 2 times to relevent newsgroup, and posting 2 messages on message boards of relevant websites, and by linking the 2 pages together.
I used no meta tags or search engines optimization techniques or other tricks. These are/were simple handmade HTML pages.
However, not too long after that first week, when my main page came up on google first page of search returns, both my websites DISAPPEARED from google completely. Why?
Maybe because my websites speak out against the crappy workplace provided by the US Navy on nuclear submarines. Looks like google likes kissing the ass of the US Govt. That is what it looks like to me!
Try some of the great places near Seattle. EPO sells expensive new stuff.
So if this theory is correct, what does this mean for the possibility that mankind may someday me able to live forever?
That is why it is harder for an American to go do programming overseas, than it is for a 3rd worlder to come here and do programming.
Actually, that is true for immigration in general. I would like to take my saving in about 2-5 years from now, put it in the bank to draw interest, and go move to rural Latin America where the rents are super-cheap.
But it is pretty hard to do that.
That girl is listening right over there, and you're talking about BackDoors? You're giving away all our best secrets!!
I am not familiar with CVS, but the claim #1 above is pretty damn broad.
Another thing to consider is when did the patent holder file the patent? The patent may have been in prosection for a long time, thus possibly antedating prior art such as CVS.
I suspect that the USPTO used to be more lenient on software claims. But I can assure you that times have changed. I think it would be very hard to get that broad claim #1 through the examiner these days.
"Oddly, the news agencies seem to be reporting this as a minor change to the rules"
The major media are the main tool of the corporate oligarchy. All this "liberal media" nonsense is simply a pose adopted as camoflauge.
Hans Moravec conceived this ploy, I think. Problem is that the area under that curve is finite, right?
You wrote:
>>
I don't think that there is any reputable theory that doesn't have a "killing all life" at some point in the very distant future.
>>
Exactly what I have been saying. Actually there ARE theories (see the next post below) that DO include the possibility that life may go on forever in the universe, but for some reason, they never get promoted by the media. Why not? It is obvious to me that we do not know what the hell is going on with the universe. So, therefore I say why not just assume that the possibility DOES exist for infinite life?
It sometimes seems as if currently living humans, having already internalized the inevitability of their own individual death, create their cosmological theories so as to make sure that there will never be any immortals. Our popular cosmology, at least the "mainstream" theories promoted by the mainstream media, seem akin to *theology*.
Nothing could possibly approach the Goodness of an Infinite Life. By definition, it is Infinitely Better than All Other Goods.
I want to live forever; that is why I am signed up to be cryopreserved. See http://www.alcor.org
288 usually works pretty well for me. I have also found that this URL http://traffic.tamu.edu/incmap/ is fairly accurate.
I have tried all the linux distros. They suck worse than windows, in almost every way, but mainly in hardware compatibility.
...it's all about money. If less 3rd worlders are allowed into the West (i.e., England, America, etc), then the working class citizens will have MORE money in their wallets, and the people who own businesses and the stockholders of large corporations will have LESS money in their wallets.
And if more foreigners are allowed into the country, then the working class citizens will have LESS money in their wallets, and the people who own businesses and the stockholders of large corporations will have MORE money in their wallets.
And that is why Schlumberger went to England with this proposal, instead of going to the USA with it. In England, there are fewer people, and they are less easily manipulated by globalist propaganda, which is not the case with the USA.
Rights are not based solely on laws, but on court cases. Ever hear of "miranda rights"? That is one of MANY "rights" given to the people by the judicial branch. And the judicial branch has made much law and has used the Declaration and other parts of the "constitution" as a basis for "creating" such "rights."
The only thing that may be able stop the slide is advancing technology that eventually acts as some sort of deus ex machina.
I tried to engage Shermer in a debate regarding cryonics, which he has "debunked" in previous writing. His so-called debunking amount to nothing more than appeals to ignorance and emotion, and appeals to authority.
If you have the balls, Shermer, why not engage me in a debate on the viability of cryonics?