I think that the original comment might have been more along the lines of that these young youtubers don't have a full understanding of what being burnt out is. They have only worked a couple of years and are complaining about being "burnt out". Sure they may work long hours, who hasn't? But they have only been doing it for a couple years. Try working in IT, where you work long hours FOR DECADES, try being an emergency medical doctor where you work long hours FOR DECADES. Being "burnt out" after working long hours for a couple years is pathetic.
I do concede one point though, having your income directly attributable to the fickle whims of people on the internet must put a different type of stress on people. Something akin to actors, comedians or other performance type jobs, who also work FOR DECADES without getting "burnt out". This seems the perfect time to say this common quote. "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen."
Whining about it just shows how immature you are and that you don't really have a fucking clue about how stressed out everyone gets at times. I know plenty of people who have changed careers for lower pay just so that they don't have to deal with the stress. If they are feeling "burnt out" go flip burgers for a while, less stress, less pay. I will bet that they will suddenly feel "fully restored" when they get that first paycheck compared to how much they are getting paid now.
If that means the phone gets slightly thicker, they are more than welcome to add more battery capacity.
Agreed, I don't know what the point is of having a paper thin phone? Hell, I bought one of those shock proof and water proof phones, it was at least an inch thick and it didn't bug me at all, battery life was good for three days (at least in the beginning) I used it for 7 years and eventually the battery died. I am sure if I replace the batter it will keep going for another 7 years. The only problem I had with it towards the end, was the lack of space on the phone and the fact that more and more stuff refused to run on an OS that old.
There is an app for that, or supposedly you can do it manually, but I get access denied when I try, so despite what the article says you probably need a rooted phone.
https://www.techpluto.com/how-...
Prime reason not to have privatized your prisons, it adds incentive to KEEP people in prison or PUT them in one. Bloody stupid idea, and I would bet the "three strikes" ruling came directly from lobbying from the people who own the prisons. The USA has the highest per capita amount of people in jail. As Jim Jeffries said, "Land of the free? Not so much" (I am paraphrasing).
Thank you, the reason the drug cartels exist is because "Big Pharma" changed the laws and outlawed drugs that worked perfectly well and "replaced" them with "safer" drugs. Turns out they were still the same old drugs they replaced, but this time they got royalties. My wife has always advocated banning alcohol instead of weed. Alcohol causes a LOT more death and misery and broken families than some guy smoking a joint. Of course alcohol is too easy to make, it's NEVER going to go away, but then neither is weed, heroine, morphine and all the other natural drugs. In my mind the only major leap forward in medication was penicillin, it stopped people from dying from an infected splinter, but they fucked that up as well by giving it to fucking everything so now we have super resistant bugs. Thanks to all the fucking EXPERTS.
That may be true, but when the person you love is in agony you have to start wondering who exactly IS qualified, why certain decisions were made and why they are being changed AGAIN. I personally know of two people who tried alternative cures for cancer and both are still walking around when they should have died ages ago. Not saying it cured them, because they were also doing normal chemo etc. but who knows? The people in charge are clearly fucking clueless or self serving. Personally, I think they are getting laws changed to suit their own agenda, and not for the public good. Hemp (not weed) is a prime example, you can't get high on it, but it got banned along with weed, it was highly durable, it was comfortable and you could grow it in your backyard.
so there are going to be some suicides in a population that large
Fair enough, but it was still bad publicity, even if it was statistically below average. If a robot dragged it's ass up the side of the building and jumped off it would... probably not make the news.
Did they actually lose business? Not sure, but I am pretty sure their stock price would have been battered, I do know that they had to implement changes to their work environment and work policies. So if it's feasible to replace humans with lower cost (in the long run) machines then it would be silly not to do so. I suspect the slow(ish) adoption is not really a question of if it can be done, but more a question of if there are enough skilled people to do so in a timeous manner. For all we know Siemans etc. have a three year backlog of work scheduled. I am currently working in IoT - relatively new at it in fact - and the work backlog is humongous, and that is relatively simple compared to full automation, so I imagine it's pretty hard to currently find people who can actually do the work.
Of course that will change, supply and demand and all that. When I first studied programming I got a job relatively easily (even as a junior) because programmers were hard to find. Ok, being in the biggest city of the country helped a lot, but about a decade later throwing a beer in a pub would hit 3 programmers. About another decade later and they got scarce again. I know a LOT of programmers who moved into business analysis etc. to get away from the coding. Sure they passed the tests, they made adequate programmers, but they hated the work. It takes a certain mindset to sit all day and build poetry in motion. Add to that the fact that you never actually stop studying as a programmer, if you do stop, well you will no longer be employable, it makes it a difficult long term career compared to most.
The same will happen with automation engineers, there is a shortage now, but not for long. Supply and demand, the current skilled engineers will earn a premium salary, this will in turn make it enticing to get into that career path for people who are not really suited for that. If you think programmers are strange then working with a bunch of electrical engineers will seriously change that viewpoint.
To a large degree programmers have to have at least some social skills. Going to meetings, meeting with clients, dealing with people to handle bug reports etc. etc. all depending on your work environment and your position in the company of course. Electrical engineers, yeah, not so much. At least not yet, but I have been working closely with electrical engineers for a while now, and they are an odd group of people, even by programmer standards. I get along well with them, but then I think I am considered odd in programming circles (which says a lot I suppose) but I do electrical engineering (and mechanical) as hobbies, so I understand their language (most days).
Mass automation is coming, the technology is there, the price point to implement it has come down a lot, the problem is the amount of resources to implement it is lacking. It's pointless implementing mass automation if no company will sign a reasonable SLA for a reasonable price. For that you will still need people and skills, just less people and more skills.
Why bother automating while its still cheaper to just throw cheap labor at your problems?
When the problem is not wages, but people themselves, then their jobs are going to get automated.
People committing suicide at Fox-con was really bad publicity for them.
People getting sick, HR issues, theft, strikes, holidays, work hours, labor laws etc. etc. etc.
Now that the cost of automation has come down a LOT, and it's a lot more capable you are going to get jobs automated.
I still remember the look on a woman's face when she realized that the logistics system we were rewriting would automate away her daily job. She was old and sickly, for her to try and get another job was going to be a problem for her. I mean, we do this all the time, but actually sitting in front of her and seeing that look on her face... not something I enjoyed, and since we were actually work friends it was even harder.
That same woman who I was coding out of a job used to get an excel spreadsheet that had each line of data split over two lines in excel (a COBOL thing) it would take her two days to manually remove the page break headers and footers, take the one line and add it to the end of the other so that it could be sorted properly. She used to take it home in the evenings and work on it as well, because it was a big ass report. I wrote a script for her in VBA which took 2 minutes to run and did it all for her. Two days work automated into two minutes, but that she was grateful for, because I automated a lot of tedium from her monthly work duties. But automating her job out of existence, not so much. I also think she never told anyone about the script, I didn't think about it at the time either, it was a personal favor. So I think she had two "days off" every month. Ironically she never lost her job when the system went live, she died from cancer about a year before, as sad as that was I think I would have had a harder time knowing I wrote a program that forced an old lady to live on the streets. I know, we programmers are doing that all the time, but actually knowing the person I was replacing with code... I will never forget that look on her face.
If you don't like Rap, you are not going to listen to it for hours until you realize its appeal.
Life is too short to listen to cRap, not that I have any particular dislike to Rap in particular, I just don't like 99% of it.
I once dated someone who loved dance music, and dancing. So I would go clubbing with her a LOT and I never got used to the shit music.
Sometimes something just doesn't appeal, and that's fine, but assuming if you have enough exposure to something you will start liking it is bullshit.
For example get raped is going to suck, no matter how many times you get raped.
They did, However the game was a fad that just lasted for a little while.
Maybe for you and your circle of friends, but we played it for years and years. Someone is running late for DnD (or can't play because of work) and suddenly it's not RPG night it's Guitar Hero night! Sometimes we would just never get around to stop taking turns playing and the whole evening would be Guitar Hero. We had the full kit, drums and all. When we changed cities it kind of did start gathering dust, it's way more fun playing with good friends, which is why when we moved cities again it got donated to some friends. The place we are staying now does not have enough room, and the full kit does take up a bit of space. Packing it away and pulling it out again is a sure way to kill the fun. With it set out all the time it was a fun way to kill some time while your wife finished up getting ready to go out.
The US was decommissioning nuclear weapons, same as Russia to meet an agreement made some time ago to cut back on the number of nuclear weapons each country had. Russia agreed to buy it to turn it into fuel for nuclear reactors. This is no big secret. Well it seems it is for you.
Your point being what exactly? The someone was wrong once? Yes they were, who knew? People are wrong all the time, that is the entire point of the post, I am sorry I could not make that clear enough. Just because someone says abc is not possible does not mean we should not at least try, especially since it looks like we have part of abc working anyways, just not to where we want it to be. So instead of replacing the human we assist him, reducing accidents by 90%. Ten years on, it's deemed the human is no longer required, and we have autonomous cars.
You need to explain why you believe that autonomous driving on current roads is a problem for which there can exist a solution
At the very least when we develop real A.I. instead of fancy algorithms we will have autonomous cars. Whether we class these artificial intelligence's as actual humans is another topic. Will we ever actually develop full A.I.? Who knows. But why not keep trying? VR headsets came out years ago, but they sucked, and it failed. Years later we have VR headsets back again, this time WAY better. Replacing humans with machines is a big cost saving for most companies. Sure the initial outlay may be high, but the savings in the long run are worth it. No more sick days, no more pension payments, no more mandatory works hours and breaks.
No more unions. They will get self driving vehicles right, even if it's just for the long haul on clearly marked roadways at first, but as the technology matures it will be certain suburbs etc. and it will spread. If you try order an autonomous cab in some backwater region with only dirt road access it will be denied. People seem to think we need to get it all correct (dirt roads and all), but we don't. We can start using it now.
No, it was pretty clear from the start. But if someone in the US did not write it and someone in the USSR did...
You would be speaking Russian.
It's all very well to take a moral stance on a given subject, but to try and force everyone else to have your same moral stance is called tyranny
Not only that, would you want the software that controls an ICBM and where it lands written by an idiot?
Neither would I, which is why I am glad you have such "high" moral standards, because you are an idiot.
The programmer writes the software for the ICBM, he is not the one pushing the button that launches it. If you can't separate the difference in your limited world view, that is YOUR problem.
Very few people said putting a man on the moon was impossible, just that it was very unlikely by the end of the 1960s.
But they were wrong
SDC's and their wide adoption probably won't happen in my life time (at least in my country) but it's coming, and people who say it's impossible annoy me. Fine, we won't have fully autonomous vehicles in chaotic areas like construction sites. Some construction sites I have worked on require special training and licensing (power stations, strip mines etc.) This is understandable, we are probably decades away from that. But to get onto a linear well demarcated highway and tell your car to stop at point x and then walk away from the controls... that technology is here. The thing is, with the space program they threw vast amounts of money at the problem, that tends to make problems disappear. I am sure the researchers you met in 1995 did not have nearly as much funding, and even if they did, nearly as much compute power available today. There are a LOT of companies working on this, it's not going to go away because people think Musk is an idiot (which I do in some cases) it's here to stay and grow. Soon a truck drivers job is going to be going to the "parking lot" outside of the city to drive the trailer into the city, no more long distance trips by humans who fall asleep, or had a beer or seven. I think that is a good thing.
My family went on a shortish road trip this weekend. My wife and I both hate driving, mostly because we get fucking bored, and we find it stressful watching out for assholes who do stupid shit. The most painful part was the long highway trip between the on ramp and the off ramp. If they automate that I will buy it. When the technology advances and it will they will automate highway driving, then town driving, then city driving and finally drive anywhere (if needed by the vehicle). If they can automate the highway part, I can sit in the back of the "car" and have breakfast with my family while we hurtle down the highway at a sustained 200. I said "car" because if SDC goes mainstream the cars as we know them will be radically different, at least internally.
You mean the laws "we" made based on our own limited knowledge? We still don't have a unified theory, why were we bothering to look for the Higgs Boson?
Our mathematical proofs are in the same boat, just because we think we can prove x cannot exist does that mean we are correct, or that we haven't figured out the math to do it?
I am not a mathematician (clearly) but we have repeatedly proven that our "laws" are incorrect, and that we need to rethink about how the universe fits together.
Just because we don't know how to do something does not mean that it is impossible, just that currently it's impossible for us.
Yes
As datavirtue said, in most garbage collected language the dangers of reference types have been mitigated.
But simply knowing that would add major bonus points in the interview.
I took a break for a couple months, when the funds ran low I started looking for a job again. I guess I was still in "holiday" mode, but when I had run the usual gauntlet of tests etc. they scheduled an interview and I forgot to put it into my calendar. For some reason the interview was weeks away from the test, perhaps someone was one leave, I don't know. So when I failed to arrive for the interview the agent phoned and asked me to please explain. I apologized and they set another interview up, which I dutifully put into my calendar. What I failed to do was to check the fucking calendar, had a late night gaming session, woke up late the next morning to be duly notified that I had missed the interview x hours ago... stupid calendar, or stupid me for not checking said calendar. Either way, it was not intentional and I did apologize. All it takes is an email to reschedule, if you can't even bother doing that then I probably would not hire you (if I ever have to be part of the interview process again). I don't like talking to strangers on the phone, a lot of people don't, I get that, but a simple one or two sentence email or text message?
Then why ask for a senior developer and then ask questions that a senior developer hasn't had to answer since grad school? When I decide to look for another job I sit down and go through all those fucking questions again because they always trot them out. It's retarded. How many times do I have to prove I can solve a fucking number sequence problem? Didn't I have to prove that to finish grad school in the first place? I don't do ANY scientific programming (which is where number sequences MIGHT be a problem, I don't know) so why ask grad school questions for a senior developer? What's the fucking point?
In another job I was roped into doing interviews, I would ask more relevant questions to the problem domain at hand
This is the scenario..., how would you go about solving it?
What language / technology would you use if you are in this given situation and why?
The problem is, to get to the interview, you have to answer those stupid fucking questions.
One question no one could ever answer, and I blame our current education system only teaching high level coding (I actually eventually stopped asking it).
What is the difference between a value type and a reference type?
So you think it's fine for a guy working on ICBM missile software to take the work home on his laptop, the one he leaves in his car when he goes to the gym? The one he pulls out to show a joke video to the guys in the pub? Sure the hard drive can be encrypted, but we know how easy it is to break encryption with a $5 wrench, and if you don't, here is the obligatory xkcd comic that explains it.
Like the OP said, "I don't know what software you have worked on" but clearly it wasn't very high on the scale of
1 - I wrote hello world
to
10 - I wrote software that can destroy cities.
It's not about your employer trusting you it's about your employer trusting EVERYBODY around you, and that is clearly not possible.
If they didn't trust you, they wouldn't let you through the door.
Odds are excellent the job is doing something toxic to society anyway
Yep, and ICBM are toxic, no mistake there, but if the software had never been written because everyone had your attitude you would be speaking Russian right now (or Chinese).
If you don't like the conditions, don't work there, go write another webpage about cats or something.
You know, something less toxic. And finish your Tofu.
based on vague, fearful assumptions about the behavior of people you have never met
What the fuck are you talking about, he is making a major life choice based specifically on the people he has met.
Are you retarded? Do you even know how they go about doing retrenchments?
Clearly not, so either explain your retarded comment, or stop wasting precious ASCII characters.
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I think that the original comment might have been more along the lines of that these young youtubers don't have a full understanding of what being burnt out is. They have only worked a couple of years and are complaining about being "burnt out". Sure they may work long hours, who hasn't? But they have only been doing it for a couple years. Try working in IT, where you work long hours FOR DECADES, try being an emergency medical doctor where you work long hours FOR DECADES. Being "burnt out" after working long hours for a couple years is pathetic.
I do concede one point though, having your income directly attributable to the fickle whims of people on the internet must put a different type of stress on people. Something akin to actors, comedians or other performance type jobs, who also work FOR DECADES without getting "burnt out". This seems the perfect time to say this common quote. "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen."
Whining about it just shows how immature you are and that you don't really have a fucking clue about how stressed out everyone gets at times. I know plenty of people who have changed careers for lower pay just so that they don't have to deal with the stress. If they are feeling "burnt out" go flip burgers for a while, less stress, less pay. I will bet that they will suddenly feel "fully restored" when they get that first paycheck compared to how much they are getting paid now.
Agreed, I don't know what the point is of having a paper thin phone? Hell, I bought one of those shock proof and water proof phones, it was at least an inch thick and it didn't bug me at all, battery life was good for three days (at least in the beginning) I used it for 7 years and eventually the battery died. I am sure if I replace the batter it will keep going for another 7 years. The only problem I had with it towards the end, was the lack of space on the phone and the fact that more and more stuff refused to run on an OS that old.
There is an app for that, or supposedly you can do it manually, but I get access denied when I try, so despite what the article says you probably need a rooted phone. https://www.techpluto.com/how-...
Prime reason not to have privatized your prisons, it adds incentive to KEEP people in prison or PUT them in one. Bloody stupid idea, and I would bet the "three strikes" ruling came directly from lobbying from the people who own the prisons. The USA has the highest per capita amount of people in jail. As Jim Jeffries said, "Land of the free? Not so much" (I am paraphrasing).
Thank you, the reason the drug cartels exist is because "Big Pharma" changed the laws and outlawed drugs that worked perfectly well and "replaced" them with "safer" drugs. Turns out they were still the same old drugs they replaced, but this time they got royalties. My wife has always advocated banning alcohol instead of weed. Alcohol causes a LOT more death and misery and broken families than some guy smoking a joint. Of course alcohol is too easy to make, it's NEVER going to go away, but then neither is weed, heroine, morphine and all the other natural drugs. In my mind the only major leap forward in medication was penicillin, it stopped people from dying from an infected splinter, but they fucked that up as well by giving it to fucking everything so now we have super resistant bugs. Thanks to all the fucking EXPERTS.
That may be true, but when the person you love is in agony you have to start wondering who exactly IS qualified, why certain decisions were made and why they are being changed AGAIN. I personally know of two people who tried alternative cures for cancer and both are still walking around when they should have died ages ago. Not saying it cured them, because they were also doing normal chemo etc. but who knows? The people in charge are clearly fucking clueless or self serving. Personally, I think they are getting laws changed to suit their own agenda, and not for the public good. Hemp (not weed) is a prime example, you can't get high on it, but it got banned along with weed, it was highly durable, it was comfortable and you could grow it in your backyard.
Fair enough, but it was still bad publicity, even if it was statistically below average. If a robot dragged it's ass up the side of the building and jumped off it would... probably not make the news.
Did they actually lose business? Not sure, but I am pretty sure their stock price would have been battered, I do know that they had to implement changes to their work environment and work policies. So if it's feasible to replace humans with lower cost (in the long run) machines then it would be silly not to do so. I suspect the slow(ish) adoption is not really a question of if it can be done, but more a question of if there are enough skilled people to do so in a timeous manner. For all we know Siemans etc. have a three year backlog of work scheduled. I am currently working in IoT - relatively new at it in fact - and the work backlog is humongous, and that is relatively simple compared to full automation, so I imagine it's pretty hard to currently find people who can actually do the work.
Of course that will change, supply and demand and all that. When I first studied programming I got a job relatively easily (even as a junior) because programmers were hard to find. Ok, being in the biggest city of the country helped a lot, but about a decade later throwing a beer in a pub would hit 3 programmers. About another decade later and they got scarce again. I know a LOT of programmers who moved into business analysis etc. to get away from the coding. Sure they passed the tests, they made adequate programmers, but they hated the work. It takes a certain mindset to sit all day and build poetry in motion. Add to that the fact that you never actually stop studying as a programmer, if you do stop, well you will no longer be employable, it makes it a difficult long term career compared to most.
The same will happen with automation engineers, there is a shortage now, but not for long. Supply and demand, the current skilled engineers will earn a premium salary, this will in turn make it enticing to get into that career path for people who are not really suited for that. If you think programmers are strange then working with a bunch of electrical engineers will seriously change that viewpoint.
To a large degree programmers have to have at least some social skills. Going to meetings, meeting with clients, dealing with people to handle bug reports etc. etc. all depending on your work environment and your position in the company of course. Electrical engineers, yeah, not so much. At least not yet, but I have been working closely with electrical engineers for a while now, and they are an odd group of people, even by programmer standards. I get along well with them, but then I think I am considered odd in programming circles (which says a lot I suppose) but I do electrical engineering (and mechanical) as hobbies, so I understand their language (most days).
Mass automation is coming, the technology is there, the price point to implement it has come down a lot, the problem is the amount of resources to implement it is lacking. It's pointless implementing mass automation if no company will sign a reasonable SLA for a reasonable price. For that you will still need people and skills, just less people and more skills.
When the problem is not wages, but people themselves, then their jobs are going to get automated.
People committing suicide at Fox-con was really bad publicity for them.
People getting sick, HR issues, theft, strikes, holidays, work hours, labor laws etc. etc. etc.
Now that the cost of automation has come down a LOT, and it's a lot more capable you are going to get jobs automated.
I still remember the look on a woman's face when she realized that the logistics system we were rewriting would automate away her daily job. She was old and sickly, for her to try and get another job was going to be a problem for her. I mean, we do this all the time, but actually sitting in front of her and seeing that look on her face... not something I enjoyed, and since we were actually work friends it was even harder.
That same woman who I was coding out of a job used to get an excel spreadsheet that had each line of data split over two lines in excel (a COBOL thing) it would take her two days to manually remove the page break headers and footers, take the one line and add it to the end of the other so that it could be sorted properly. She used to take it home in the evenings and work on it as well, because it was a big ass report. I wrote a script for her in VBA which took 2 minutes to run and did it all for her. Two days work automated into two minutes, but that she was grateful for, because I automated a lot of tedium from her monthly work duties. But automating her job out of existence, not so much. I also think she never told anyone about the script, I didn't think about it at the time either, it was a personal favor. So I think she had two "days off" every month. Ironically she never lost her job when the system went live, she died from cancer about a year before, as sad as that was I think I would have had a harder time knowing I wrote a program that forced an old lady to live on the streets. I know, we programmers are doing that all the time, but actually knowing the person I was replacing with code... I will never forget that look on her face.
Life is too short to listen to cRap, not that I have any particular dislike to Rap in particular, I just don't like 99% of it.
I once dated someone who loved dance music, and dancing. So I would go clubbing with her a LOT and I never got used to the shit music.
Sometimes something just doesn't appeal, and that's fine, but assuming if you have enough exposure to something you will start liking it is bullshit.
For example get raped is going to suck, no matter how many times you get raped.
The last recorded street name was in 1561, I doubt anyone at that time was trying to open an AOL account.
And if you can get your hands on a guitar controller it will work with that as well.
Maybe for you and your circle of friends, but we played it for years and years. Someone is running late for DnD (or can't play because of work) and suddenly it's not RPG night it's Guitar Hero night! Sometimes we would just never get around to stop taking turns playing and the whole evening would be Guitar Hero. We had the full kit, drums and all. When we changed cities it kind of did start gathering dust, it's way more fun playing with good friends, which is why when we moved cities again it got donated to some friends. The place we are staying now does not have enough room, and the full kit does take up a bit of space. Packing it away and pulling it out again is a sure way to kill the fun. With it set out all the time it was a fun way to kill some time while your wife finished up getting ready to go out.
The US was decommissioning nuclear weapons, same as Russia to meet an agreement made some time ago to cut back on the number of nuclear weapons each country had. Russia agreed to buy it to turn it into fuel for nuclear reactors. This is no big secret. Well it seems it is for you.
While I agree with you, it's also clear you have not written any frameworks. Or at least none that had to survive multiple versions. It's hard.
Agreed, there has been a lot of talk, but fuck all actual evidence. Fake news apparently only applies when it does not suit main stream media.
Your point being what exactly? The someone was wrong once? Yes they were, who knew? People are wrong all the time, that is the entire point of the post, I am sorry I could not make that clear enough. Just because someone says abc is not possible does not mean we should not at least try, especially since it looks like we have part of abc working anyways, just not to where we want it to be. So instead of replacing the human we assist him, reducing accidents by 90%. Ten years on, it's deemed the human is no longer required, and we have autonomous cars.
At the very least when we develop real A.I. instead of fancy algorithms we will have autonomous cars. Whether we class these artificial intelligence's as actual humans is another topic. Will we ever actually develop full A.I.? Who knows. But why not keep trying? VR headsets came out years ago, but they sucked, and it failed. Years later we have VR headsets back again, this time WAY better. Replacing humans with machines is a big cost saving for most companies. Sure the initial outlay may be high, but the savings in the long run are worth it. No more sick days, no more pension payments, no more mandatory works hours and breaks. No more unions. They will get self driving vehicles right, even if it's just for the long haul on clearly marked roadways at first, but as the technology matures it will be certain suburbs etc. and it will spread. If you try order an autonomous cab in some backwater region with only dirt road access it will be denied. People seem to think we need to get it all correct (dirt roads and all), but we don't. We can start using it now.
No, it was pretty clear from the start. But if someone in the US did not write it and someone in the USSR did...
You would be speaking Russian.
It's all very well to take a moral stance on a given subject, but to try and force everyone else to have your same moral stance is called tyranny
Not only that, would you want the software that controls an ICBM and where it lands written by an idiot?
Neither would I, which is why I am glad you have such "high" moral standards, because you are an idiot.
The programmer writes the software for the ICBM, he is not the one pushing the button that launches it. If you can't separate the difference in your limited world view, that is YOUR problem.
But they were wrong
SDC's and their wide adoption probably won't happen in my life time (at least in my country) but it's coming, and people who say it's impossible annoy me. Fine, we won't have fully autonomous vehicles in chaotic areas like construction sites. Some construction sites I have worked on require special training and licensing (power stations, strip mines etc.) This is understandable, we are probably decades away from that. But to get onto a linear well demarcated highway and tell your car to stop at point x and then walk away from the controls... that technology is here. The thing is, with the space program they threw vast amounts of money at the problem, that tends to make problems disappear. I am sure the researchers you met in 1995 did not have nearly as much funding, and even if they did, nearly as much compute power available today. There are a LOT of companies working on this, it's not going to go away because people think Musk is an idiot (which I do in some cases) it's here to stay and grow. Soon a truck drivers job is going to be going to the "parking lot" outside of the city to drive the trailer into the city, no more long distance trips by humans who fall asleep, or had a beer or seven. I think that is a good thing.
My family went on a shortish road trip this weekend. My wife and I both hate driving, mostly because we get fucking bored, and we find it stressful watching out for assholes who do stupid shit. The most painful part was the long highway trip between the on ramp and the off ramp. If they automate that I will buy it. When the technology advances and it will they will automate highway driving, then town driving, then city driving and finally drive anywhere (if needed by the vehicle). If they can automate the highway part, I can sit in the back of the "car" and have breakfast with my family while we hurtle down the highway at a sustained 200. I said "car" because if SDC goes mainstream the cars as we know them will be radically different, at least internally.
You mean the laws "we" made based on our own limited knowledge? We still don't have a unified theory, why were we bothering to look for the Higgs Boson?
Our mathematical proofs are in the same boat, just because we think we can prove x cannot exist does that mean we are correct, or that we haven't figured out the math to do it?
I am not a mathematician (clearly) but we have repeatedly proven that our "laws" are incorrect, and that we need to rethink about how the universe fits together.
Just because we don't know how to do something does not mean that it is impossible, just that currently it's impossible for us.
Yes
As datavirtue said, in most garbage collected language the dangers of reference types have been mitigated.
But simply knowing that would add major bonus points in the interview.
I took a break for a couple months, when the funds ran low I started looking for a job again. I guess I was still in "holiday" mode, but when I had run the usual gauntlet of tests etc. they scheduled an interview and I forgot to put it into my calendar. For some reason the interview was weeks away from the test, perhaps someone was one leave, I don't know. So when I failed to arrive for the interview the agent phoned and asked me to please explain. I apologized and they set another interview up, which I dutifully put into my calendar. What I failed to do was to check the fucking calendar, had a late night gaming session, woke up late the next morning to be duly notified that I had missed the interview x hours ago... stupid calendar, or stupid me for not checking said calendar. Either way, it was not intentional and I did apologize. All it takes is an email to reschedule, if you can't even bother doing that then I probably would not hire you (if I ever have to be part of the interview process again). I don't like talking to strangers on the phone, a lot of people don't, I get that, but a simple one or two sentence email or text message?
Then why ask for a senior developer and then ask questions that a senior developer hasn't had to answer since grad school? When I decide to look for another job I sit down and go through all those fucking questions again because they always trot them out. It's retarded. How many times do I have to prove I can solve a fucking number sequence problem? Didn't I have to prove that to finish grad school in the first place? I don't do ANY scientific programming (which is where number sequences MIGHT be a problem, I don't know) so why ask grad school questions for a senior developer? What's the fucking point?
In another job I was roped into doing interviews, I would ask more relevant questions to the problem domain at hand
This is the scenario..., how would you go about solving it?
What language / technology would you use if you are in this given situation and why?
The problem is, to get to the interview, you have to answer those stupid fucking questions.
One question no one could ever answer, and I blame our current education system only teaching high level coding (I actually eventually stopped asking it).
What is the difference between a value type and a reference type?
Like the OP said, "I don't know what software you have worked on" but clearly it wasn't very high on the scale of
1 - I wrote hello world
to
10 - I wrote software that can destroy cities.
It's not about your employer trusting you it's about your employer trusting EVERYBODY around you, and that is clearly not possible.
If they didn't trust you, they wouldn't let you through the door.
Yep, and ICBM are toxic, no mistake there, but if the software had never been written because everyone had your attitude you would be speaking Russian right now (or Chinese).
If you don't like the conditions, don't work there, go write another webpage about cats or something.
You know, something less toxic. And finish your Tofu.
What the fuck are you talking about, he is making a major life choice based specifically on the people he has met.
Are you retarded? Do you even know how they go about doing retrenchments?
Clearly not, so either explain your retarded comment, or stop wasting precious ASCII characters.