Christians also believe lots of things that are not biblically supported. Sunday as the holy day (clearly Saturday, based on the 10 Commandments), the Triumverate nature of the Godhood (Father, Son, Holy Ghost), the Immaculate Conception of Mary (not that she was born of a virgin, but that she was born without Orginal Sin).
The Bible is not, nor has it ever been, the final arbitratator of what various sects of Christians believe. That has always been the role of the hierarchy of the Church, whichever one you might believe in.
One example:
Ask a Rabbi or other Hebrew scholar what the Burning Bush said to Moses, it wasn't "I am that that I am". That is the English Christian translation so it jives with the Gospel of John and the idea of the God and Word never changing.
Islam and Judism are the same on this matter, Translations are not good enough for deciding what they believe or don't believe. Christianity? Well, we have several versions of the Bible, and it really does not matter, we don't use it as the final source of what we believe.
Oh, and the split over Catholics and Protestants? It is really over the nature of the Host, is it of the Body of Christ? or is it the Body of Christ? The silliness is that whatever Christ said at any point in his Ministry, it was not in the language that the orginal scriptures were written. With the exception of some very specific Hebrew phrases that are said on the Cross, everything Christ says is in Aramaic, thus all the "words of Christ" are translations into the Greek, the language of all exant copies of the orginal gospels. (A caveat: Matthew MAY have been orginally written in Aramaic, but no exant copies exist, only the greek versions)
So, anything Christ says is already removed once by translation, even if you study the orginal Greek versions. So how can scholars know what he said at the last supper with any certianty? They can't!
Disclaimer: I am a "Christian" by self declaration. I only see the inside of a Church for a fuction, such as a wedding or a funeral. I find the whole church idea kinda silly, like a country club or knitting circle. If I have to tell you I live my life according to the principles of Christ, I am not doing a very good job of it. Holding a membership in a church just clouds that goal. Most of that is based on the fact posted above, I can't be sure what Christ said or did not say, so founding my belief on an exact understanding of that is irrational. No, I just try live my life like Christ as I best understand it. No church needed for that.
She needed no sight. Before we rescued her she gave birth and raised a litter of kittens. By far she was the most effective killer I have ever seen, snatching bugs and birds out of the air with terrifying accuracy.
Her downfall was when threatened she never backed down I presume because she could not see where was safest. Stood her ground against pit bull that got loose. She had to be put down because of a broken back. The dog didn't make it either after she gutted his throat arteries.
You clearly don't have a basic understanding of science, and just randomly spam things off. If you don't see that Mars and Earth climates are far more similar than different, I just don't know what to tell you. All the differences you see really arn't that different and thus Mars is a reasonable control for Earth, barring having a duplicate Earth.
If you don't have a control for your science, you really have not proved anything. You have a conjecture based on some very tiny data points with no comparison.
And, based on what we do know, places like greenland were pretty hospitable just a few hundred years ago, when there were far fewer humans. Less than 25millon world wide. So there are clearly processes that happen regardless of our input that have wrought bigger changes than what we have going on.
Based on that you want to intentionally change our behavior, quite possibly having no effect, or possibly have a negative effect.
If you just eliminated human effects, mostly likely you will see little effect on the warming trend. It might change a little, but not much.
Worse, people might try to do something more perminate to stop the heating trend. Then, having screwed the process, we may dive into a nice ice age. I rather have more data, thanks.
Anyway, excuse me. I Have Been Trolled, I Have Lost, I Shall Have a Nice Day.
"Except for the fact that variations in solar output are demonstrably not responsible for the majority of the global climate change on Earth, or the recent regional climate change on Mars"
How do you know, or determine that? References? Earth's Ice caps are melting, so are mars RIGHT NOW. Earth solar cap data really only exists since photographic satalites, mars goes back to drawings made with telescopes because they can see and chart the whole icecap at once.
Earth and mars are very similiar on planetary scale. Both are rocky worlds inside the gas giant belt, with thin atmospheres and tri-state water conditions. Your "differences" are on the biological scale and while they matter to some life forms such as humans, it is pretty clear life could exist on Mars in its current conditions.
Mercury is different, no atomosphere. Venus is different, no tri state water and a thick atmosphere. Titan is different as it does not have an atmosphere and is in the gas giant band where Solar input to the planetary energy cycle is almost nil.
Are humans impacting global tempatures. Sure. Are they responsable for all of it? No.
Earth has been at higher and lower tempatures, jurassic global jungles and possiblely a total ice cap WITHOUT the existance of humans.
So where is the balance? 90/10? 70/30? 50/50? That is the science we don't have yet and should be discussed.
Go back farther to Huygen's observations in the 17th century and they are smaller again. Seems to be reacting to something OTHER than human interaction.
Thus, you observation about Sun cycles makes a lot more sense as the root cause.
So, if humans are making it worse, and likely they are, then if we try and fight the cycle we may tip it too much in the OTHER direction?
Total energy used to produce the car and run it is only slightly better than an all gas model because initial energy requirements for a similar sized car is MUCH higher, something that goes contrary to "common sense".
That gets payed back over the years in better gas milage. The wikicar site will show you that in Japan the milage is 71mpg and Germany it is rated at 51mpg.
No conspiracy , just different methods of measuring MPG.
My next car will hopefully be a plug in desiel hybrid. They just have to start selling them here! The GM/Opal Astral would be my pick.
Please, politicians by default are dishonest, not just Republicans. So just remember who's dog food you are eating when shilling for one side or the other.
I love ad hominem attacks, it means you have no arguement, just a big mouth.
Go read your own laws, it is 1 second of lead time per 10 feet of vehicle with 4 seconds trailing time minimum. At 65 mph that is 15 feet per second or 60 feet between vehicles, or 3 to 4 carlengths given a Ford Taurus is 16.5 feet. At the maximum for Texas, 80mph, it is more like 4 to 5 carlengths to leave a 4 second trail.
Yes, I know you are a bad ass with hairtrigger reflexs, but you can't cheat Newton. Some day he is gonna pound your bad ass into the ground with the first law of motion.
With any luck, you won't take a better human than yourself with you.
Learn to read what people write, which is why you don't understand the TFA.
I defined "at capacity" as 3 to 4 carlenths between cars, thus NOT bumper to bumper, but rather cars moving at freeway speeds.
If you know anything about traffic and freeways, you would know that most cars moved per time period is 50 mph.
Tailgaters in any situation are dangerous. You cannot react that fast to stop in an emergency, no matter how many times you have seen Top Gun, and if you are too close the driver in front of you may not see your headlights anyway.
Not true. When the freeway is busy enough to fill all lanes to capacity, i.e, no more than 3 or 4 carlengths between cars in all lanes, there is no safe way to "move faster"
When there is only one lane and no safe way to pull aside or to pass, flashing the lights does no good.
In these cases, the tailgater is the pious, self rightous asshole.
You may be unaware of this, but no communications outside the US borders are covered by the US rights to privacy. If you make a call outside the US, or into the US, it can be monitored. See here: http://www.eff.org/patriot/sunset/204.php
Now if both sides of the communication are US citizens, they need FASA approval. If one end is NOT a US citizen, then listening in is fair game.
Now, there are other rights, like not being able to use that information for anything other than National Security. You could, for example, detail killing your wife, and they could not use it to arrest you.
A long, long time ago, in 1993, I was at Santa Clara Computer Users Group and the guest was Dr. Engelbart, the inventor of the mouse.
I asked him a question, now that the mouse was 30 years old, what did he think was the next interface to change the way humans and computers interacted.
He was nonplussed. He had not given it much thought, as the mouse was "perfect" for icons and "Drag and Drop" interfaces.
Now, for a long time I thought he was wrong, that there is something better. Chordal keyboards seemed a good answer, but they are hard to use.
Today, I am thinking that the real answer is that the icon/menu/DnD interface has to change, then we can find a better way to interface with it.
If you think you think you have been wronged and payed for it with a credit card then you can do a charge back.
Blizard will have to prove they provided the service, which they admit they didn't when they suspended you and then reinstated with an "oops", or the charge gets refunded.
Think Blizzard is a big company that always gets what it wants? Guess what Bliz, VISA is bigger and has your revenue stream by the short hairs. Oh, and VISA has a reputation to protect as being worth the interest they charge. Consumer protection is part of that image.
Pursue it with your credit card company. You might be pleasently suprised.
Look, you claimed that 90% of marines are kept at home for insurection.
I showed that you are incorrect, as more than 30% are deployed and I "spoonfed" you the link. I am not going to go and find references for your statements, you need to provide them if you expect me to accept them.
THEN you come back and change the arguement to "Being shot at" which as you say has nothing to do with deployment.
Glad you agree your reference does not back up your OP statement. Got it now?
You need to prove only 10% are deployed to back up your claim. You proved that 10% are shot at. Fine, stipulated. But that has nothing to do with your orginal post that has to do with how many are kept at home.
I did not refute the rest of your post because it is not fact, it is opinion. You are entitled to it, even if I don't agree. So why waste time on that?
aside from the fact you did not link to the statement, so who knows what was said, that statement does not say the same thing you did. That is is Jim Lehrer, from PBS, makes no difference. No linky, no fact. But lets take it for granted.
You said that 90% are kept in the United states for insurrections, a demonstrably FASLE statement.
BTW, add to the % deployed. 30000 are deployed in Japan as well, that makes the current deployment in high 30's.
And if the alternate is you, who just makes things up out of thin air to support crackpot ideas, or the elite "them"... I don't see a difference.
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Christians also believe lots of things that are not biblically supported. Sunday as the holy day (clearly Saturday, based on the 10 Commandments), the Triumverate nature of the Godhood (Father, Son, Holy Ghost), the Immaculate Conception of Mary (not that she was born of a virgin, but that she was born without Orginal Sin).
The Bible is not, nor has it ever been, the final arbitratator of what various sects of Christians believe. That has always been the role of the hierarchy of the Church, whichever one you might believe in.
One example:
Ask a Rabbi or other Hebrew scholar what the Burning Bush said to Moses, it wasn't "I am that that I am". That is the English Christian translation so it jives with the Gospel of John and the idea of the God and Word never changing.
Islam and Judism are the same on this matter, Translations are not good enough for deciding what they believe or don't believe. Christianity? Well, we have several versions of the Bible, and it really does not matter, we don't use it as the final source of what we believe.
Oh, and the split over Catholics and Protestants? It is really over the nature of the Host, is it of the Body of Christ? or is it the Body of Christ? The silliness is that whatever Christ said at any point in his Ministry, it was not in the language that the orginal scriptures were written. With the exception of some very specific Hebrew phrases that are said on the Cross, everything Christ says is in Aramaic, thus all the "words of Christ" are translations into the Greek, the language of all exant copies of the orginal gospels. (A caveat: Matthew MAY have been orginally written in Aramaic, but no exant copies exist, only the greek versions)
So, anything Christ says is already removed once by translation, even if you study the orginal Greek versions. So how can scholars know what he said at the last supper with any certianty? They can't!
Disclaimer: I am a "Christian" by self declaration. I only see the inside of a Church for a fuction, such as a wedding or a funeral. I find the whole church idea kinda silly, like a country club or knitting circle. If I have to tell you I live my life according to the principles of Christ, I am not doing a very good job of it. Holding a membership in a church just clouds that goal. Most of that is based on the fact posted above, I can't be sure what Christ said or did not say, so founding my belief on an exact understanding of that is irrational. No, I just try live my life like Christ as I best understand it. No church needed for that.
Like say... RAMBUS? Or maybe Monterey?
Intel does in fact do very stupid things from time to time. The question is, is this one of them?
She needed no sight. Before we rescued her she gave birth and raised a litter of kittens. By far she was the most effective killer I have ever seen, snatching bugs and birds out of the air with terrifying accuracy.
Her downfall was when threatened she never backed down I presume because she could not see where was safest. Stood her ground against pit bull that got loose. She had to be put down because of a broken back. The dog didn't make it either after she gutted his throat arteries.
Nice tinfoil hat.
There is no "science" showing that we cause the change because we have no controls to prove it. Simple as that.
Sorry, that is the way it works and you are just buying into it, much like a Earth Flatter or a Intellegent Design believer.
What's next, locking up on house arrest because I don't buy your brand of soap?
You clearly don't have a basic understanding of science, and just randomly spam things off. If you don't see that Mars and Earth climates are far more similar than different, I just don't know what to tell you. All the differences you see really arn't that different and thus Mars is a reasonable control for Earth, barring having a duplicate Earth.
If you don't have a control for your science, you really have not proved anything. You have a conjecture based on some very tiny data points with no comparison.
And, based on what we do know, places like greenland were pretty hospitable just a few hundred years ago, when there were far fewer humans. Less than 25millon world wide. So there are clearly processes that happen regardless of our input that have wrought bigger changes than what we have going on.
Based on that you want to intentionally change our behavior, quite possibly having no effect, or possibly have a negative effect.
If you just eliminated human effects, mostly likely you will see little effect on the warming trend. It might change a little, but not much.
Worse, people might try to do something more perminate to stop the heating trend. Then, having screwed the process, we may dive into a nice ice age. I rather have more data, thanks.
Anyway, excuse me. I Have Been Trolled, I Have Lost, I Shall Have a Nice Day.
So is it similar, or different?
"Except for the fact that variations in solar output are demonstrably not responsible for the majority of the global climate change on Earth, or the recent regional climate change on Mars"
How do you know, or determine that? References? Earth's Ice caps are melting, so are mars RIGHT NOW. Earth solar cap data really only exists since photographic satalites, mars goes back to drawings made with telescopes because they can see and chart the whole icecap at once.
Earth and mars are very similiar on planetary scale. Both are rocky worlds inside the gas giant belt, with thin atmospheres and tri-state water conditions. Your "differences" are on the biological scale and while they matter to some life forms such as humans, it is pretty clear life could exist on Mars in its current conditions.
Mercury is different, no atomosphere. Venus is different, no tri state water and a thick atmosphere. Titan is different as it does not have an atmosphere and is in the gas giant band where Solar input to the planetary energy cycle is almost nil.
Are humans impacting global tempatures. Sure. Are they responsable for all of it? No.
Earth has been at higher and lower tempatures, jurassic global jungles and possiblely a total ice cap WITHOUT the existance of humans.
So where is the balance? 90/10? 70/30? 50/50? That is the science we don't have yet and should be discussed.
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See, we have a control, another planet that is very similar to ours in terms of planetary scale and it's ice caps are melting too.
http://www.planetary.org/image/flammarion_MarsTer
current:
http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases
Go back farther to Huygen's observations in the 17th century and they are smaller again. Seems to be reacting to something OTHER than human interaction.
Thus, you observation about Sun cycles makes a lot more sense as the root cause.
So, if humans are making it worse, and likely they are, then if we try and fight the cycle we may tip it too much in the OTHER direction?
Sorry, fresh out of mod points...
Careful, I think you just insulted the Prophet.
Bet the Sony rep was Jamil Hussein, famous source for the AP.
Well, you should go take a look at Toyota's own assessment before getting out the conspiracy theories and claiming "common sense":
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http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/k_forum/tenji/pdf/pgr_
from http://wikicars.org/en/Toyota_Prius
Total energy used to produce the car and run it is only slightly better than an all gas model because initial energy requirements for a similar sized car is MUCH higher, something that goes contrary to "common sense".
That gets payed back over the years in better gas milage. The wikicar site will show you that in Japan the milage is 71mpg and Germany it is rated at 51mpg.
No conspiracy , just different methods of measuring MPG.
My next car will hopefully be a plug in desiel hybrid. They just have to start selling them here! The GM/Opal Astral would be my pick.
P.S. Use the return key or formatting.
There will be HEATED DEER!!111!11!!
You forgot this one:
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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/1/2
Slashing tires to keep people from voting.
Or John Murtha:
http://news.netscape.com/story/2006/11/15/democra
Or William Jefferson:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/21/jefferson.
Or Teddy Kennedy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick
Or "Voted for the War before I voted against it" :
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/29/politic
Or Hiz Honor,Richard Daley:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_J._Daley
Or Boss Tweed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_Tweed
Please, politicians by default are dishonest, not just Republicans. So just remember who's dog food you are eating when shilling for one side or the other.
Here is the physical law covering how far to trail a car safely:
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www.udel.edu/mserc/mfme/overview/MFME%20Math%20Ov
It is meant for 9th graders, so I am sure you can understand it.
Quote texas law all you want, Newton still wins.
I love ad hominem attacks, it means you have no arguement, just a big mouth.
Go read your own laws, it is 1 second of lead time per 10 feet of vehicle with 4 seconds trailing time minimum. At 65 mph that is 15 feet per second or 60 feet between vehicles, or 3 to 4 carlengths given a Ford Taurus is 16.5 feet. At the maximum for Texas, 80mph, it is more like 4 to 5 carlengths to leave a 4 second trail.
Yes, I know you are a bad ass with hairtrigger reflexs, but you can't cheat Newton. Some day he is gonna pound your bad ass into the ground with the first law of motion.
With any luck, you won't take a better human than yourself with you.
Learn to read what people write, which is why you don't understand the TFA.
I defined "at capacity" as 3 to 4 carlenths between cars, thus NOT bumper to bumper, but rather cars moving at freeway speeds.
If you know anything about traffic and freeways, you would know that most cars moved per time period is 50 mph.
Tailgaters in any situation are dangerous. You cannot react that fast to stop in an emergency, no matter how many times you have seen Top Gun, and if you are too close the driver in front of you may not see your headlights anyway.
Not true. When the freeway is busy enough to fill all lanes to capacity, i.e, no more than 3 or 4 carlengths between cars in all lanes, there is no safe way to "move faster"
When there is only one lane and no safe way to pull aside or to pass, flashing the lights does no good.
In these cases, the tailgater is the pious, self rightous asshole.
You may be unaware of this, but no communications outside the US borders are covered by the US rights to privacy. If you make a call outside the US, or into the US, it can be monitored.
See here:
http://www.eff.org/patriot/sunset/204.php
Now if both sides of the communication are US citizens, they need FASA approval. If one end is NOT a US citizen, then listening in is fair game.
Now, there are other rights, like not being able to use that information for anything other than National Security. You could, for example, detail killing your wife, and they could not use it to arrest you.
I want to know where he got the second hand reports that supermodels can't go the distance.
Clearly, he does not do THAT research himself...
A long, long time ago, in 1993, I was at Santa Clara Computer Users Group and the guest was Dr. Engelbart, the inventor of the mouse.
I asked him a question, now that the mouse was 30 years old, what did he think was the next interface to change the way humans and computers interacted.
He was nonplussed. He had not given it much thought, as the mouse was "perfect" for icons and "Drag and Drop" interfaces.
Now, for a long time I thought he was wrong, that there is something better. Chordal keyboards seemed a good answer, but they are hard to use.
Today, I am thinking that the real answer is that the icon/menu/DnD interface has to change, then we can find a better way to interface with it.
I think they meant percent change, not total increase.
But then, if they are vauge they are not helping people understand the issues.
IANAL, but...
If you think you think you have been wronged and payed for it with a credit card then you can do a charge back.
Blizard will have to prove they provided the service, which they admit they didn't when they suspended you and then reinstated with an "oops", or the charge gets refunded.
Think Blizzard is a big company that always gets what it wants? Guess what Bliz, VISA is bigger and has your revenue stream by the short hairs. Oh, and VISA has a reputation to protect as being worth the interest they charge. Consumer protection is part of that image.
Pursue it with your credit card company. You might be pleasently suprised.
Solaris has backward compatable binaries back to 2.5. Any binary compiled on previous versions can be expected to run on a later OS.
VMS provides the same comptiblity through a byte level re-compiler, however crossed hardware platforms from VAX to ALPHA and now to INTEL.
You can't even follow your own arguements!
Look, you claimed that 90% of marines are kept at home for insurection.
I showed that you are incorrect, as more than 30% are deployed and I "spoonfed" you the link. I am not going to go and find references for your statements, you need to provide them if you expect me to accept them.
THEN you come back and change the arguement to "Being shot at" which as you say has nothing to do with deployment.
Glad you agree your reference does not back up your OP statement. Got it now?
You need to prove only 10% are deployed to back up your claim. You proved that 10% are shot at. Fine, stipulated. But that has nothing to do with your orginal post that has to do with how many are kept at home.
I did not refute the rest of your post because it is not fact, it is opinion. You are entitled to it, even if I don't agree. So why waste time on that?
aside from the fact you did not link to the statement, so who knows what was said, that statement does not say the same thing you did. That is is Jim Lehrer, from PBS, makes no difference. No linky, no fact. But lets take it for granted.
You said that 90% are kept in the United states for insurrections, a demonstrably FASLE statement.
BTW, add to the % deployed. 30000 are deployed in Japan as well, that makes the current deployment in high 30's.
And if the alternate is you, who just makes things up out of thin air to support crackpot ideas, or the elite "them"... I don't see a difference.