to be fair, the king david hotel was a legitimate military target. And there is some evidence to suggest that irgun made an attempt to warn them to evacuate the building, but the message to bungled along the way.
there has been continuous jewish presence in the holyland for 3 millenia. they get driven out, they come back, they get massecred, they bounce back. etc. etc. they kind of like it there.
they didn't conquer the land, so much as, the ottoman empire imploded and that's what the winners of WW2 did with it. The jews defended whatever borders they could and i think the majority of the palestinian refugees fled voluntarily, because they thought they'd be coming back to a judenrein area, or that's what the arab world was telling them.
i'm absolutely fine with that. 3 generations of refugees is enough. you know what refugees that aren't lynchpins to pet ethnic grievances do? they migrate and settle.
perpetual victimhood, because the arabic world doesn't like that they lost land to the jews.
guess what, the ottoman empire imploded. and the british divied up what was left.
the jews were fine with any border as long as they got a nation, and then they went through a couple of existential wars with the entire region, now they want good borders and i don't blame them. and i don't blame them for wanting to keep israel numerically jewish, we've seen what happens when they're a minority.
how many people actually think it's false... that the arabs unilaterally disarming would mean peace?
... the only thing that makes the news in a big way is a successful terror attack.
just like, we don't hear about successful terror attacks in cities we don't really care about. Russia, the middle east, africa, asia.
this one was sexy because it had a high body count, France is fucking FRANCE, and its got europe scared.
incidentally, you hear about the couple of europeans (think there was a brit) and 3 americans that prevented a mass shooting on a train half a year ago? the answer is, nobody died so who fucking cares?
You want to know why this happened? they have no borders internally, like states, and they've got no "federal government" to mandate and allocate resources to "national" border security. I mean, we've got canada to the north, which has good border security, and mexico to the south. Which yeah, we've got a porous border on the mexico front, but it's also fucking terrifying to try to infiltrate the US from mexico unless you're mexican.
We've got a good neighbor to the north, and to the south you've gotta wrastle this here badger. wrastle the badger and you can come in... what do you mean you don't want to wrastle this here badger?
fire is still hot in fantasy. make a fireball, and you're not going to freeze your target... unless it's a blue flame, then anything goes really. your central conceit may be that thermodynamics doesn't apply, and a blue fireball is a cold flame... because magic.
but that's part of the fantasy, and gots to be explicit in a way. if it's a standard orange flame, it's hot hot hot. in keeping with any color flame in our world.
or, it's your kryptonite. but i also like to fund things that seem like they've got a decent gameplan.
hexbright was my first, and a damn fun idea too. and the guy definitely knew what his challenges were, he took like, a year extra. but everybody got their stuff.
i've kickstarted maybe 8-10 things, i've received my reward for all of them, certainly, almost always, not in a timely fashion, and one of them, i'm not sure was "worth it." but all things done in good faith.
I'm just saying, if it smells like a scam... or if it smells like they're biting off a bit much for them. use your discretion to wait.
oh, we're working on the assumption that it's not outright fraud. in a lot of cases it looks like people can call that when they see it. i think kickstarter now claims that they are now liable for all reward promises... you know, if they aren't bankrupt.
it's slightly different, it's a conditional purchase/pre-pay.
i make a pre-payment with the understanding that there's a chance that the venture might completely fail, but also with the understanding that if i don't, collectively i mean, then this item/idea that i find intriguing WILL never materialize.
But if it does succeed, then i am owed this thing that i payed for.
it's a purchase conditioned on them not completely screwing the pooch.
... you took that analogy way further than necessary... or i would say desired. but yeah, if i fund a kickstarter it's generally with the understanding that "if this project doesn't implode, then i've made a purchase, if it does implode, well, that's what happens sometimes."
i actually disagree with that, a more aggressive name makes sense, but lying about one's age is... basically too much thought. If i'm lying about my age, i'm generally swapping the date around and bumping by a year or two in either direction, that's generally because i'm hesitant to enter any identifying information about myself. It's in the ballpark though. I would say that, yes the verification of age is troubling, but it's also not fatal. we know that lying takes more energy than telling the truth. http://discovermagazine.com/20... . It's just a pain in the ass to lie about one's age too egregiously if there's no age limit.
even if it were a fatal weakness to the paper, just because the assumptions of the population are incorrect doesn't mean the analysis of it are as well. It just means that you're not describing the group of people that you thought you were. It might be that you are describing the trend of behavior as people age as well as how people think they should act at those ages.
still not valueless.
Also, it's surprising to me, to a certain extent. I thought people were dicks at all ages, but what? people become less of a bag of dicks as they get older?
it was an example, if you really want to nitpick. if the free item is a bottle of water, and the gold watch is a gold watch... well in a desert, you can't drink a watch. Value is a human construct.
You may say the study is meaningless. I would say it has potential value. If i were so inclined to that field of study, i could certainly use it in a citation in expanding on further study. Everybody knows... you know how weak it is to start with "it's common knowledge"?
It might not be common knowledge. Just because it's not terribly interesting, or earthshattering, or paradigm-shifting, doesn't mean it has no value.
you're assuming that "worth far more than" means multiplicative. if it's additive you have no argument.
yes, If i say, that gold watch is worth far more than this free item? would you argue that 0 times 1000 is still 0? You could like, super interpret that to mean, hey, this is worth something, and that's worth nothing, so yeah, this is a lot more valuable than that.
you were trying to impose a non-standard interpretation of an expression on the initial statement, to try to be clever and prove your point. Someone called you on it. And now we've wasted god knows how much time on semantics.
to be fair, we don't know how they taste. some beetle larvae apparently taste strongly reminiscent of nuts.
i've had bee larvae of some kind, salt and pepper fry up. a bit gritty, but not unpleasant. I've also tried silkworm larvae, it's got an intensely unpleasant taste... but may be one of those "acquired" things.
the point being, an additional protein source is never horrible.
you're like super patronizing, and come off a bit petulant.
i meant your bringing in simple math operations into a comparison isn't necessary.
"You do it yourself when you yourself write "the comment is worth 0, the research is worth 100." Where do you pull this arbitrary value for the value of the research from? Opinion. Others have different opinions, and you cannot demonstrate in this case that yours is a more valid appraisal than anyone else's." - yes. that was my position.
your personal definition of how "far more worth" translates versus other people's. it's a mathematical relationship filtered through the lens of language, and thus subject to interpretation.
i'm not that invested, my only posts have been named.
but i can certainly then claim that, your entire 1000 times zero is still zero, is a full on non sequitur can't I?
what does math have any bearing on "this research has far more worth"?
1000 times zero is still zero, is either in response to the AC or it isn't, if it is, then you have interpreted the meaning of his phrase "far more worth" to be multiplicative, which may or may not be appropriate.
if it isn't, then your "1000 times..." is simply a statement of fact... like "the sky is blue"
the comment is worth 0, the research is worth 100. "it has far more worth", is also a valid interpretation of the statement made by AC.
actually, now that i think of it, math might not even need a place in it at all. it's strictly a greater than statement.
maybe not with certain studios, but recently you've also got pushes where you'll get pre-order bonuses and pre-order discounts, etc... to incentivize purchasing a game sight unseen. And, when you do get the game out, there's less importance on good QA, because it seems like "hey why hire people on when all these rubes will just let us know anyway that our game has bugs"
also the recent popularization of DLC content... and those aforementioned pre-order bonuses, means that you have content that's not going to get added until a month later, or was purposely locked away from a subset of the market at release.
it's safer, if you don't want to deal with all the BS scavenger hunting of the full experience to just wait until they release the "full package" edition of the game... like a year later.
once all the beta testers have quality controlled the shit out of the base experience, and all the additional content has been released.
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nah, in retrospect, the the arabs decided they screwed the pooch on that one.
to be fair, the king david hotel was a legitimate military target. And there is some evidence to suggest that irgun made an attempt to warn them to evacuate the building, but the message to bungled along the way.
there has been continuous jewish presence in the holyland for 3 millenia. they get driven out, they come back, they get massecred, they bounce back. etc. etc. they kind of like it there.
they didn't conquer the land, so much as, the ottoman empire imploded and that's what the winners of WW2 did with it. The jews defended whatever borders they could and i think the majority of the palestinian refugees fled voluntarily, because they thought they'd be coming back to a judenrein area, or that's what the arab world was telling them.
i'm absolutely fine with that. 3 generations of refugees is enough. you know what refugees that aren't lynchpins to pet ethnic grievances do? they migrate and settle.
perpetual victimhood, because the arabic world doesn't like that they lost land to the jews.
guess what, the ottoman empire imploded. and the british divied up what was left.
the jews were fine with any border as long as they got a nation, and then they went through a couple of existential wars with the entire region, now they want good borders and i don't blame them. and i don't blame them for wanting to keep israel numerically jewish, we've seen what happens when they're a minority.
how many people actually think it's false... that the arabs unilaterally disarming would mean peace?
well that just goes without saying.
but einstein wasn't as crazy as newton :)
even at that age though... is there any sense of accomplishment?
taking things apart, and trying to put them together again, that's the sense of accomplishment, figuring out how things work...
changing enclosures isn't about curiousity.
i don't know, but i'm not going to second-guess a man that invents calculus out of whole cloth... i think he should get the benefit of the doubt no?
all i'm saying, is i'm going to enjoy the shit out of 2059.
... the only thing that makes the news in a big way is a successful terror attack.
just like, we don't hear about successful terror attacks in cities we don't really care about. Russia, the middle east, africa, asia.
this one was sexy because it had a high body count, France is fucking FRANCE, and its got europe scared.
incidentally, you hear about the couple of europeans (think there was a brit) and 3 americans that prevented a mass shooting on a train half a year ago?
the answer is, nobody died so who fucking cares?
You want to know why this happened? they have no borders internally, like states, and they've got no "federal government" to mandate and allocate resources to "national" border security. I mean, we've got canada to the north, which has good border security, and mexico to the south. Which yeah, we've got a porous border on the mexico front, but it's also fucking terrifying to try to infiltrate the US from mexico unless you're mexican.
We've got a good neighbor to the north, and to the south you've gotta wrastle this here badger. wrastle the badger and you can come in... what do you mean you don't want to wrastle this here badger?
die in a fire.
fire is still hot in fantasy. make a fireball, and you're not going to freeze your target... unless it's a blue flame, then anything goes really. your central conceit may be that thermodynamics doesn't apply, and a blue fireball is a cold flame... because magic.
but that's part of the fantasy, and gots to be explicit in a way. if it's a standard orange flame, it's hot hot hot. in keeping with any color flame in our world.
or, it's your kryptonite. but i also like to fund things that seem like they've got a decent gameplan.
hexbright was my first, and a damn fun idea too. and the guy definitely knew what his challenges were, he took like, a year extra. but everybody got their stuff.
i've kickstarted maybe 8-10 things, i've received my reward for all of them, certainly, almost always, not in a timely fashion, and one of them, i'm not sure was "worth it." but all things done in good faith.
I'm just saying, if it smells like a scam... or if it smells like they're biting off a bit much for them. use your discretion to wait.
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs...
lawsuits will determine what the relationship is.
oh, we're working on the assumption that it's not outright fraud. in a lot of cases it looks like people can call that when they see it. i think kickstarter now claims that they are now liable for all reward promises... you know, if they aren't bankrupt.
it's slightly different, it's a conditional purchase/pre-pay.
i make a pre-payment with the understanding that there's a chance that the venture might completely fail, but also with the understanding that if i don't, collectively i mean, then this item/idea that i find intriguing WILL never materialize.
But if it does succeed, then i am owed this thing that i payed for.
it's a purchase conditioned on them not completely screwing the pooch.
... you took that analogy way further than necessary... or i would say desired. but yeah, if i fund a kickstarter it's generally with the understanding that "if this project doesn't implode, then i've made a purchase, if it does implode, well, that's what happens sometimes."
i'm going to blame the victim here. You can't expect to go hunting with dick cheney and NOT get shot in the face.
I mean, that's why he apologized right?
i actually disagree with that, a more aggressive name makes sense, but lying about one's age is... basically too much thought. If i'm lying about my age, i'm generally swapping the date around and bumping by a year or two in either direction, that's generally because i'm hesitant to enter any identifying information about myself. It's in the ballpark though. I would say that, yes the verification of age is troubling, but it's also not fatal. we know that lying takes more energy than telling the truth. http://discovermagazine.com/20... . It's just a pain in the ass to lie about one's age too egregiously if there's no age limit.
even if it were a fatal weakness to the paper, just because the assumptions of the population are incorrect doesn't mean the analysis of it are as well. It just means that you're not describing the group of people that you thought you were. It might be that you are describing the trend of behavior as people age as well as how people think they should act at those ages.
still not valueless.
Also, it's surprising to me, to a certain extent. I thought people were dicks at all ages, but what? people become less of a bag of dicks as they get older?
multiplication is a subset of addition.
it was an example, if you really want to nitpick. if the free item is a bottle of water, and the gold watch is a gold watch... well in a desert, you can't drink a watch. Value is a human construct.
You may say the study is meaningless. I would say it has potential value. If i were so inclined to that field of study, i could certainly use it in a citation in expanding on further study. Everybody knows... you know how weak it is to start with "it's common knowledge"?
It might not be common knowledge. Just because it's not terribly interesting, or earthshattering, or paradigm-shifting, doesn't mean it has no value.
you're assuming that "worth far more than" means multiplicative. if it's additive you have no argument.
yes, If i say, that gold watch is worth far more than this free item? would you argue that 0 times 1000 is still 0? You could like, super interpret that to mean, hey, this is worth something, and that's worth nothing, so yeah, this is a lot more valuable than that.
you were trying to impose a non-standard interpretation of an expression on the initial statement, to try to be clever and prove your point. Someone called you on it. And now we've wasted god knows how much time on semantics.
to be fair, we don't know how they taste. some beetle larvae apparently taste strongly reminiscent of nuts.
i've had bee larvae of some kind, salt and pepper fry up. a bit gritty, but not unpleasant. I've also tried silkworm larvae, it's got an intensely unpleasant taste... but may be one of those "acquired" things.
the point being, an additional protein source is never horrible.
sacrilege, a little bit of oil, salt and pepper. medium rare. what's this BS about molasses?
no, i think he's just confused about how humans work. you can't really learn all that much about taste from just anal probes.
you're like super patronizing, and come off a bit petulant.
i meant your bringing in simple math operations into a comparison isn't necessary.
"You do it yourself when you yourself write "the comment is worth 0, the research is worth 100." Where do you pull this arbitrary value for the value of the research from? Opinion. Others have different opinions, and you cannot demonstrate in this case that yours is a more valid appraisal than anyone else's." - yes. that was my position.
your personal definition of how "far more worth" translates versus other people's. it's a mathematical relationship filtered through the lens of language, and thus subject to interpretation.
i'm not that invested, my only posts have been named.
but i can certainly then claim that, your entire 1000 times zero is still zero, is a full on non sequitur can't I?
what does math have any bearing on "this research has far more worth"?
1000 times zero is still zero, is either in response to the AC or it isn't,
if it is, then you have interpreted the meaning of his phrase "far more worth" to be multiplicative, which may or may not be appropriate.
if it isn't, then your "1000 times..." is simply a statement of fact... like "the sky is blue"
the comment is worth 0, the research is worth 100. "it has far more worth", is also a valid interpretation of the statement made by AC.
actually, now that i think of it, math might not even need a place in it at all. it's strictly a greater than statement.
maybe not with certain studios, but recently you've also got pushes where you'll get pre-order bonuses and pre-order discounts, etc... to incentivize purchasing a game sight unseen. And, when you do get the game out, there's less importance on good QA, because it seems like "hey why hire people on when all these rubes will just let us know anyway that our game has bugs"
also the recent popularization of DLC content... and those aforementioned pre-order bonuses, means that you have content that's not going to get added until a month later, or was purposely locked away from a subset of the market at release.
it's safer, if you don't want to deal with all the BS scavenger hunting of the full experience to just wait until they release the "full package" edition of the game... like a year later.
once all the beta testers have quality controlled the shit out of the base experience, and all the additional content has been released.