How Anonymous' War With Isis Is Actually Harming Counter-Terrorism (metro.co.uk)

retroworks writes: According to a recent tweet from the #OpParis account, Anonymous are delivering on their threat to hack Isis, and are now flooding all pro-Isis hastags with the grandfather of all 2007 memes — Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up" music video. Whenever a targeted Isis account tries to spread a message, the topic will instead be flooded with countless videos of Rick Astley circa 1987. Not all are praising Anonymous methods, however. While Metro UK reports that the attacks have been successful, finding and shutting down 5,500 Twitter accounts, the article also indicates that professional security agencies have seen sources they monitor shut down. Rick Astley drowns out intelligence as well as recruitment.

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What is this, click bait?

[smittyoneeach]

Is spelling Astley's name correctly 33% of the time an effort to irritate your readers into clicking the article?
Or is it just more proof that /.'s editors could be replaced with a poorly coded .php script?

Re: What is this, click bait?

[Anonymous Coward]

Rick Astley recorded it, Stock Waterman wrote it.

Re:What is this, click bait?

[pahles]

Or is it just more proof that /.'s editors could be replaced with a poorly coded .php script?

No, it is proof that /.'s editors HAVE BEEN replaced with a poorly coded .php script!

Re:What is this, click bait?

[ThatsMyNick]

So many mentions, but no link to the real rick roll. I expected better from you /.

Re:What is this, click bait?

[Anonymous Coward]

What prick would post a weak blog that cites the fucking awful Metro as a reputable source, and why the smeg would an editor accept such shockingly poor efforts, let alone the pathetic effort put in by retroworks (who probably lifted it from reddit/voat).

Re: What is this, click bait?

[psmears]

Stock Waterman wrote it.

Stock Aitken Waterman. No need to miss out Matt Aitken!

Re:What is this, click bait?

[drinkypoo]

No, it is proof that /.'s editors HAVE BEEN replaced with a poorly coded .php script!

This is slashdot, it's a poorly coded perl script.

Re:What is this, click bait?

[Anonymous Coward]

You must be new here. This site never had real editors...

Re:What is this, click bait?

[GrumpySteen]

Here you go

Re: What is this, click bait?

[pellik]

That's redundant.

Re: What is this, click bait?

[Anonymous Coward]

And, since there's more than one way to do it poorly, which one did they use?

Re: What is this, click bait?

[Anonymous Coward]

Welcome to Rogers repository of recursive redundancy.

Re:What is this, click bait?

[Anonymous Coward]

No, it's you. You are a spelling douche.

Re:What is this, click bait?

[serviscope_minor]

This is slashdot, it's a poorly coded perl script.

Nah, it's a PhP script. But given that any collection of random characters is executable perl, it runs with interesting results.

Re:What is this, click bait?

[Flavianoep]

You must be new here. This site never had real editors...

Some of the old folks tell a legend of CmdrTaco and a time when there where real editors.

Re: What is this, click bait?

[Anonymous Coward]

And, since there's more than one way to do it poorly, which one did they use?

Wish I had mod points to give this +1 Funny or maybe even +1 Insightful. In retrospect, I don't know why I never before realized that this was the logical conclusion of Perl's famous slogan.

Re: What is this, click bait?

[Anonymous Coward]

Rob was a tool.

Re:What is this, click bait?

[Anonymous Coward]

This is slashdot, it's a poorly coded perl script.

Well that explains why no one reads anything!

Re:What is this, click bait?

[Phaedrus420]

Perfect. Thank You.

Great going, dicedot

[Hognoxious]

We all knew this about a week ago, thanks very much.

Re:Great going, dicedot

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't read those other websites you insensitive git!

Re:Great going, dicedot

[AmiMoJo]

Since when has news on Slashdot ever, ever been timely? Young whipper-snappers don't know how good they've got it, back in my day news was late, a dupe from last week end TFA was slashdotted so we had to get it from some karma whore posting it in the comments. Then the trolls would post fake versions... I miss those days.

Re:Great going, dicedot

[serviscope_minor]

Then the trolls would post fake versions... I miss those days.

Which days? These ones:

mirror of the article here

Re:Great going, dicedot

[Coren22]

That was always good for a laugh...unless you were the guy reading from work...

Re:Great going, dicedot

[Anonymous Coward]

goatsex.cx has articles? Well I never...

Re:Great going, dicedot

[Cederic]

You shitting me? I don't click on arbitrary links on Slashdot from home, I don't even browse it on a work PC.

I also enabled the setting a few years back that tells me the site hosting a link..

mirror of the article here [goatse.cx]

Re:Great going, dicedot

[Coren22]

I didn't know that was a feature you could disable, but yeah, I see the part in the [] as well.

What's more effective?

[Anonymous Coward]

It all comes down to whats more effective. IMHO shutting down recruitment has more value.

Also, so called intelligence didn't stop France attacks ... so the value of monitoring the sources is even more dubious.

Re:What's more effective?

[Anonymous Coward]

Think about it. The government of France has the means to spy on the communication within their country through ISPs since 2006.

Obviously, the ability to know what kind of pornsites you're visiting was very effective in preventing terrorism.

Re:What's more effective?

[Applehu Akbar]

Spoofing socialmedia would be even better, wouldn't it? Say a flurry of faked tweets indicating that a given village is falling to the cause, drawing Daesh fighters to a kill zone?

Re:What's more effective?

[RabidReindeer]

It all comes down to whats more effective. IMHO shutting down recruitment has more value.

I'm inclined to agree. ISIS is outstanding in its application of social media as a recruitment tool. If potential recruits can be frustrated or outed in "honeypot" sites, then a major component of their organization is compromised. If they get reduced to doing their recruiting door-to-door, then it's going to be much harder to enlist people, since their personal behavior is generally not up to the standards of culture and civilization that you'd expect from a pack of rabid dogs. And it would greatly reduce their ability to pull in the gullible and disaffected in target countries. That's always been the problem with ISIS. Al Quaeda has never had much appeal in the USA, but ISIS had.

However, Anonymous had better hope that they live up to their name. This is war, and the other side has already proven that they will take barbaric and bloody revenge on anyone and everyone, and they have less respect for "Innocent until Proven Guilty" than Drug-Free America does.

Also, so called intelligence didn't stop France attacks ... so the value of monitoring the sources is even more dubious.

That's armchair quarterbacking, 20/20 hindsight is always easy. What you do with what you know can be more important than the knowledge itself.

Re:What's more effective?

[RabidReindeer]

Think about it. The government of France has the means to spy on the communication within their country through ISPs since 2006.

Obviously, the ability to know what kind of pornsites you're visiting was very effective in preventing terrorism.

It should be. Pure-Hearted Martyrs for the Faith in organizations such as Al-quaeda are notably fond of alchohol and porn. IIRC, even Bin Laden himself had a stash.

So monitoring porn sites and liquor stores can be very important.

Re:What's more effective?

[Merk42]

Also, so called intelligence didn't stop France attacks ... so the value of monitoring the sources is even more dubious.

That's armchair quarterbacking, 20/20 hindsight is always easy. What you do with what you know can be more important than the knowledge itself.

While I understand the false assumption GP is making, what attacks have the monitoring prevented? I'm honestly asking.

Re:What's more effective?

[Anonymous Coward]

Also, so called intelligence didn't stop France attacks ... so the value of monitoring the sources is even more dubious.

That's armchair quarterbacking, 20/20 hindsight is always easy. What you do with what you know can be more important than the knowledge itself.

While I understand the false assumption GP is making, what attacks have the monitoring prevented? I'm honestly asking.

This! THIS! THIS!

The point has been made over and over and the NSA representatives and former CIA guys never address it, because the answer is that they haven't.

The NSA and CIA and FBI are pissed and don't want the people to put together that Anonymous just succeeded where they have failed for years.. with just a little bit of out of the box thinking.

The idea that monitoring American citizens does anything to stop or reduce terrorism is mathematically impossible.. like saying if we aids test everyone on the planet every day that we will reduce costs of healthcare.. meanwhile when the bill comes...

The thing that the 3 letter organizations keep dodging and brushing under the carpet is the idea that disregarding things like.. the 4th amendment and due process make us any safer, when we have just handed over the keys to the kingdom and we are no longer living in a free country.

I know Republicans love trolling conversations like this, but you know them because the keep trying to derail the conversation away from the police state danger to the hand waving and yelling "9-11" ... It has been 14 years.. time to relinquish emergency powers.. that is if you are not setting up an evil empire... we are waiting!

Re:What's more effective?

[Anonymous Coward]

I think you forgot to include logic in your argument.

Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

... Rick Aston drowns out intelligence as well as recruitment ...

I call that bull

If the so called 'professional security agencies' have been so successfully monitoring Islamic State's account why didn't they stop the people being recruited into the terrorist organization?

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

Hell, if they were so successful in monitoring ISIS, why the fuck weren't they able to stop the Paris attacks from happening in the first place?

I don't know what's scarier, ISIS itself, or the fact that international intelligence agencies are so clearly inept that they're actually incapable of stopping any sort of terror attacks. If they actually DID manage to stop terror attacks, they would be trumpeting their victories loudly and on the front page of every newspaper and every news website this side of the GMT line. The fact that they haven't is pretty much proof positive that in fact they haven't managed to do a damn thing.

Between the US and Europe, we're practically lining up to sacrifice our rights in the name of "security", but the fact of the matter is that the emperor has no clothes - if our governments haven't managed to prevent these sorts of attacks given the atrocious level of personal privacy we've had to give up already, what proof do we have that they'd be able to do so while giving up more rights? Yet this is exactly what politicians are going to demand that we do in the wake of the Paris attacks.

I'm not terrified of ISIS. Statistically speaking, I'm most likely not going to be gunned down by some angry dude with an AK-47. What I AM terrified of is our governments systematically stripping our rights under the guise of preventing terror, which they've been objectively shown to be unable to do in the first place.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't know that I would peg this as incompetence by our intelligence agencies.

A large problem we face is that recent years have shown it is in their best interests to let the attacks happen. It's pretty trivial to claim that the terrorists were just one step ahead and there was no way to know the attack was going to happen. Afterward, governments fall all over themselves trying to give the intelligence agencies more power to stop the next attack.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Barsteward]

If the so called 'professional security agencies' have been so successfully monitoring Islamic State's account why didn't they stop the people being recruited into the terrorist organization?

I would hazard a guess that its best for them to create a list of all people communicating so they can work out the networks in more detail, you don;t want to show your hand before you have to otherwise they change the way they communicate.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

This is very simple, and even idiots recognize why this happens.

It's in the best interest of Intelligence agencies to "do nothing" unless an attack is imminent, and something has to happen in order to justify a much larger crackdown. Otherwise the public calls entrapment.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[wile_e_wonka]

I am not a security expert, but my thoughts are that "Anonymous" isn't really hurting anything.

1) An article from The Guardian speculating that Anonymous might be doing more harm than good does not equate to national intelligence agencies complaining that Anonymous is doing more harm than good.

2) If intelligence agencies are watching Twitter accounts for covert intelligence, that is idiotic. Twitter posts are public, easy to find, and unencrypted (I suppose you could hide a secret message in a Twitter post, but anyway...). It seems to me that the Rickrolling is perfect for disrupting ISIS sponsored Twitter recruitment accounts. When it comes to actually planning attacks, I imagine this makes no difference whatsoever--that is more likely done by ISIS on encrypted non-public channels that the intelligence agencies are trying to find and decrypt.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

It's in the best interest of Intelligence agencies to "do nothing"

So close, but there is no unless.
Everything they do nothing and an attack happens .. budgets increase and power increases.
What possible motive is there to 'stop' terrorism?

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[fustakrakich]

Funny how this script follows the X-Men movies almost word for word. Just replace Mutant with Muslim...

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[gurps_npc]

1) It is very, very, hard to stop a decentralized terrorist agency.

2) The CIA etc. are very, very good at identifying leadership, money, and top players. That is what their intel does.

3) When they do stop an attack, they do NOT broadcast it. Instead they try to backtrack it the higher ups, taking them out. They can't do this if they tell the news.

4) We are sacrificing many rights for false security. Airline crap is a prime example. Not only does it not work, but it is costly. Similarly, they are unconstitionaly taking way too much information about American citizens and sharing it with other agencies. But that doesn't mean the security agencies are doing nothing. They are more effective than people realize.

I would agree that we have given them too much importance and made too many sacrifices. But when you denigrate their real, effective, efforts, you hurt your own argument.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

You are ignorant of what our law enforcement and intelligence agencies do. It's because you don't read the news, you just read the headlines.

For example, here is an article about the FBI stopping an ISIS attack on July 4: http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/09/politics/july-4-terror-plot-law-enforcement/

Here's a list of 39 foiled plots from 2001 to 2011. A few were ineptitude on the attackers' parts, but most were stopped by law enforcement: http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2011/05/39-terror-plots-foiled-since-911-examining-counterterrorisms-success-stories

And in fact the raid on the French apartments were also a stopped attack, as they were ready to go another round but the French police raided their apartment sooner.

The reason you think what you say is because foiled attacks do not get much media coverage. The reason for this is twofold:

1) Law enforcement would not want to advertise how they defeated a group or attack so as not to tip off the planners how things failed, so those planners will make the same mistakes and law enforcement can get them again.

2) When it does make news (for example they can't hide what they did to stop a guy), it gets a news report but it's not super newsworthy. Our media sells shock and voyeurism; an article about a foiled plot may be buried behind the latest Kim Kardashian wardrobe malfunction or the latest Donald Trump outrageous comment.

For those of us who follow what the intelligence agencies are doing, and it is available publicly if you look for it, they actually do an amazing job at stopping these guys, but full security is impossible without complete removal of civil liberties. Some attack will get through, but that one attack will get 100X the media coverage of the combined media coverage of 30 foiled attacks; it is the nature of our news media. As a result, people develop opinions like yours that are in conflict to the reality of counter-terrorism.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

its the worst of both worlds.

The actual law enforcement that stops these acts is cut by state governments. (the real detective work is unfunded, not enough boots on the ground or critical thinking caps available).
Eg: when all the nutjobs declared they were sypathetic to ISIS on facebook the program that background checks all these claims is underfunded and could not manage.

In france this is austerity ideology and the rotten troika enforcing an unsustainable/illogical rules on each member of the EU:
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2015/11/france-paris-attacks-austerity-security-151114164449126.html

Meanwhile the other (now notorious) programme where they drag net everything on the internet which does next to zero for anti-terrorism + is only known because of snowden and others = unlimited funding and resources.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Triklyn]

... the only thing that makes the news in a big way is a successful terror attack.

just like, we don't hear about successful terror attacks in cities we don't really care about. Russia, the middle east, africa, asia.

this one was sexy because it had a high body count, France is fucking FRANCE, and its got europe scared.

incidentally, you hear about the couple of europeans (think there was a brit) and 3 americans that prevented a mass shooting on a train half a year ago?
the answer is, nobody died so who fucking cares?

You want to know why this happened? they have no borders internally, like states, and they've got no "federal government" to mandate and allocate resources to "national" border security. I mean, we've got canada to the north, which has good border security, and mexico to the south. Which yeah, we've got a porous border on the mexico front, but it's also fucking terrifying to try to infiltrate the US from mexico unless you're mexican.

We've got a good neighbor to the north, and to the south you've gotta wrastle this here badger. wrastle the badger and you can come in... what do you mean you don't want to wrastle this here badger?

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[H3lldr0p]

2) If intelligence agencies are watching Twitter accounts for covert intelligence, that is idiotic. Twitter posts are public, easy to find, and unencrypted (I suppose you could hide a secret message in a Twitter post, but anyway...). It seems to me that the Rickrolling is perfect for disrupting ISIS sponsored Twitter recruitment accounts. When it comes to actually planning attacks, I imagine this makes no difference whatsoever--that is more likely done by ISIS on encrypted non-public channels that the intelligence agencies are trying to find and decrypt.

Except that they're not using encrypted channels to do the planning and execution. That's been made abundantly clear in the last week with multiple articles in the papers telling us as much. All of their chatter was done over phone texting. That's it. Nothing fancy. Nothing requiring any government to intrude on or break otherwise normal encrypted messaging. Maybe that's the problem. We've built up a boogieman in our minds that is this incredible supervillian-esque monster that's going to be doing everything on side channels with embedded encryption protocols and stenographic images.

I mean, that's what they're doing, right? It's what the old Soviet regimes were thought to do. Who knows, maybe these guys are just stuck in the world the way it was thirty or forty years ago.

To my mind it goes back to the OP's point. They're not using intelligence to stop these people. The question is it incompetence, malfeasance, apathy, or some combination of all three?

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

Funny how this script follows the X-Men movies almost word for word. Just replace Mutant with Muslim...

Damn.

I must have have missed the part where the X-Men mutants had over a thousand years of history going around demanding everyone become a mutant and beheading anyone who wouldn't, all in the name of jihad.

Funny how you left that out...

Just replace fustakrakich with moron.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

They aren't sociopaths like so many Slashdot commentators? They have normal human emotions?

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[kheldan]

Ostensibly, not a single one of us in this discussion is an analyst or other operative for an intelligence organization, so as such all we're doing is 'armchair quarterbacking', and worse, 'Monday morning armchair quarterbacking' when it comes to this type of work. I'm not sticking up for these people, but I will say it's easy to criticize what they are (or are not) doing when you don't have any real-world idea what the work actually entails.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[BarbaraHudson]

They aren't sociopaths like so many Slashdot commentators? They have normal human emotions?

Two words: Dick Cheney.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[crow_t_robot]

This is counted as a counter-terrorism success story??

1. Richard Reid—December 2001. A British citizen and self-professed follower of Osama bin Laden who trained in Afghanistan, Richard Reid hid explosives inside his shoes before boarding a flight from Paris to Miami on which he attempted to light the fuse with a match. Reid was caught in the act and apprehended aboard the plane by passengers and flight attendants. FBI officials took Reid into custody after the plane made an emergency landing at Boston’s Logan International Airport.[3]

I'm fucking laughing so hard.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[BarbaraHudson]

Intelligence agencies might as well advertise their successes - after all, it's not like their opponents don't know, duh.

Also, France is now being pretty public after each operation. This is not the cold war era.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

Which yeah, we've got a porous border on the Mexico front, but it's also fucking terrifying to try to infiltrate the US from Mexico unless you're Mexican.

Had to fix your capitalization, so if that ruins the intent of the quoted line in your mind, oh well.

On subject, Mexico is perfectly happy to help others cross into the US. If you approach Mexico from Guatemala with intent to move to Mexico, you are turned away or shot. If you approach Mexico from Guatemala and tell them you want to go to the USA, they stick you on a freight train and inform you that if you get off anywhere before the end of the line, someone will shoot you. So, yeah, not the nicest, but they're moderately accommodating to people who can't pay, think about what a nation run by bribes would do for someone who can pay.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

I would hazard a guess that its best for them to create a list of all people communicating so they can work out the networks in more detail, you don;t want to show your hand before you have to otherwise they change the way they communicate.

That would be great, if you are doing historic research.
The problem is that this information needs to be fresh. A person willing to blow himself up today won't be willing five years from now. The network that exists today doesn't exist tomorrow.
The intelligence agencies waits because they want to catch bigger fish than the little tweeter. Meanwhile people die and the playing field changes.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[boristdog]

Except they've taken away our right to privacy and haven't done shit in the past 14 years. So I think we have a perfect right to complain that these "operatives" cant find their ass with two hands.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah yeah bla bla bla. The time frame is irrelevant. All the same bigotry is on display for you to ignore and hide behind. It appears that you are very easily distracted by shiny objects

Yep, the vile, deadly bigotry of radical Muslims and their supporters is on display constantly.

Executing gays.

Beheading Christians.

Stoning rape victims for daring to besmirch the "family honor" by getting raped.

Shoot hundreds of Parisians for the crime of not being Muslim.

And it's been on display for more than a millennium.

Put down your shiny iPhone, you tard, and take note of the world around you - and the one big-time religion that has as its fundamental doctrine that all non-believers are sub-human and deserve to die..

Preferably by beheading.

Because that's what the Quran says.

Re: Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

What happened to your signature? It got cut off.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[fustakrakich]

You make a most excellent useful idiot, believing every bit of propaganda that comes across your face. Jolly good show,old chap!

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[GlennC]

They're not using intelligence to stop these people. The question is it incompetence, malfeasance, apathy, or some combination of all three?

Add in a side of blind naked ambition for power, and the answer is yes.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[crow_t_robot]

Like christians burning people at the stake, etc

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[cold fjord]

I don't know what's scarier, ISIS itself, or the fact that international intelligence agencies are so clearly inept that they're actually incapable of stopping any sort of terror attacks. If they actually DID manage to stop terror attacks, they would be trumpeting their victories loudly and on the front page of every newspaper and every news website this side of the GMT line. The fact that they haven't is pretty much proof positive that in fact they haven't managed to do a damn thing.

In Western Europe and the US and Canada there have been probably thousands of arrests and convictions for terrorism related offenses, including interrupted plots. On Slashdot they never count because the Slashmob is always making excuses: they are too stupid, stupid terrorists don't count. They are using pathetic means, real terrorists use XXX so they don't count. Although the suspect pushed the button to explode the bomb, it was a sting, and therefore the suspect was put up to it and it doesn't count. They just arrested "brown people" so that doesn't count. And on, and on, and on.

If you don't know this then you should probably just pack up your computer and ship it back since it doesn't seem to be useful in keeping your informed.

That is before we get to the subject of people on Slashdot doing what they can to make terrorists harder to find or detect. And then there is the faction that have fantasies of oppression such that they declare their willingness to engage in terrorism themselves.

Lots more people are going to die.

Re: Worse than clickbait !

[BarbaraHudson]

I changed it a couple of months ago, in reaction to the continual insistence by the greater LGBT movement in encouraging the idea that cross-dressers and drag queens fit into the same category as transsexuals - and not understanding the distinction themselves. That, and how if anyone speaks anything ill about them, it will harm "the community." It's screwed up public perception so much that the public pretty much assumes we're gay. Screw them. They can keep their outdated concepts such as "community" and "safe spaces" and "authentic lives", same as any other group (like SJWs and radfems). My definition of "community" doesn't make any distinctions as to race, color, creed, sexual preference, gender identity, etc - it's inclusive, not exclusionary. My community, which is my family, friends, neighbors, and everyone else I run into. "Time to die" applies equally to the last replicant in Blade Runner and Political Correctness.

You don't need to withdraw into an artificial community - far better to pay it forward and, where there is a problem in the real community, work to educate. This concept applies both to "safe spaces" and "authentic lives." Make the whole community a bit safer, instead of living in a walled garden. And how the heck do you lead an "authentic life" when you're withdrawing from interaction with the larger world around you?

Unlike the rest of the LGBT, transsexuals achieved our rights without riots, mass protests, and public demonstrations. Those of us who have been outed continue to lead "authentic lives" without the assistance of the LGBT movement.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[cold fjord]

That was two wasted words. Dick Cheney was Secretary of Defense and Vice President, he wasn't in the intelligence community. He also doesn't seem to suffer from various personality disorders and syndromes common here. He has also been away from power for a very long time and yet he still bothers you. I suspect that is more a reflection of what is going on between your ears than his.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[fustakrakich]

Christian violence is still ongoing. Yet the bigots will mod this down also. It's bad and getting worse. And nobody wants to acknowledge that it's the the money (up to 700 a month, in US dollars cash), that motivate the fighters, not the voodoo. You can use any dogma/religion, they all work. No, sir, we are regressing back to bad times.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

Help! Help! I'm being mod bombed by fucking bigots! Now I have to post AC!

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

You make a most excellent useful idiot, believing every bit of propaganda that comes across your face. Jolly good show,old chap!

Or rioting and murdering because of Piss Christ.

Oh wait.

My bad.

That would be MUSLIMS rioting and MURDERING because someone DARED MAKE FUN OF MUHAMMED, the pedophile desert brigand who was at least smart enough to come up with a religion that requires his follows to die for him.

Did you miss Charlie Hebdo? You know, where MUSLIMS deliberately murdered innocents?

Did you miss ISIS beheading Christians? Where MUSLIMS deliberately murdered Christians for the CRIME of being Christian?

Who's the useful idiot? Those links don't point to "propaganda", they point to the FACT that radical MUSLIMS will murder you for NOT BEING MUSLIM.

You're the idiot for believing that Islam is a "religion of peace". At its fundamental core, it's anything but. It's a religion based on the MURDER of non-Muslims.

Because unlike Christianity, Islam has never had any equivalent of the Renaissance and Enlightenment to drag it kicking and screaming from its Medieval Dark Ages.

Don't like it? Radical Muslims will still kill you for not being Muslim.

Care to try and actually REFUTE that, or are you going to crawl back into your Mommy's Basement Intellectual Shelter where you put NAMES on things that hurt your pathetic feelings and hide from reality?

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Coren22]

Yeah, because things like this is just propaganda:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

I'm sure the Yazidis beheaded themselves.

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[fustakrakich]

Bla bla bla. Singling out Muslims is pure bigotry. The only difference between Christian Terrorism and Islamic terrorism is that Christian Terrorism never makes the evening news..

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[valdezjuan]

There is also the possibility that they are monitoring particular terrorist links but don't want to divulge that. If the terrorists are communicating over text-messages and they have made any effort to compartmentalize information (even a tiny bit), any proactive actions taken by an intelligence agency would lead the terrorists to specific people that are being monitored. That's far more telling from an adversaries perspective then a generic 'all text messages are analyzed'. I am not part of any nations version of a 3-letter agency but I wonder how much damage is done by not wanting to disclose to the enemy specifics of exactly what/who/where/when things are monitored. Much like during WWII, actions needed to be weighed against the value of keeping that line of intelligence open which leads to which atrocities do you permit 'for the greater good' and which do you block. =|

Re:Worse than clickbait !

[Anonymous Coward]

Like muslims burning people in cages.

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[Anonymous Coward]

How the hell do you know if they haven't been able to stop any? Seen the intelligence reports have you? We usually only see the attacks they didn't manage to stop, or the close calls. Did it ever occur to you that making a public announcement every time a plan was thwarted would only give ISIS insight as to the intelligence personnel and methods being used? Your entire basis is flawed.

While the threat of terrorism is overstated because it makes good media copy and political careers, at the same time, if you believe the level and threat of terrorism would not at all change if governments ceased all anti-terrorism measures, you're incredibly naive and butthurt. You're also rather selfish; so as long as 80 other poor schmucks get their arms blown off here and there but not you, who gives a damn, right?

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[fustakrakich]

Don't even try to single out the Muslims. I mean, you can, and most of the idiots out there will believe you, but you only are being a bigot, and a fool for the empire.

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[Anonymous Coward]

STFU! Christians are just as violent. More so, they have more high tech weaponry, like drones and cruise missiles that they can fire from a basement in Nevada. They have killed hundreds of thousands of innocents in their phony *war on terror*. So kindly go fuck yourself! Fucking moron!

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[BarbaraHudson]

The comment I was referring to was about sociopaths. Donald Rumsfeld is another.

He has also been away from power for a very long time

So has Hitler, for an even longer time, but that doesn't render him irrelevant when talking about sociopaths.

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[Cederic]

Or possibly - just possibly - several attacks a year are thwarted, thousands of lives are saved, dozens of terrorists are prevented from enacting harm. And one attack out of the scores that were successfully halted in the past few years kills 128 people and cunts like you bleat on about some nonsense conspiracy.

The intelligence services don't have to let one through on purpose. It's going to happen whether they want it to or not. They know this, and that means they can wait for it to happen before re-iterating their extensive data collection demands.

Bitch about their excessive demands, bitch about them exploiting a tragedy for selfish purposes, but don't be stupid and pretend they're letting this shit happen on purpose. They're probably not.

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[Coren22]

Did I say that only Muslims can be terrorists? You claimed that Islam isn't violent right from the leader and that they aren't currently engaged in the most vile of violent attacks against every non Muslim. That is incorrect.

All terrorists should be stopped, currently the worst of them are the Muslim terrorists. There are terrorists in every religion, even the "non violent" Buddhists have their own terrorist groups. Other people doing it is no excuse to try to stop it in every place it happens.

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[cold fjord]

Well, well, what do I find at your link?

The brutalities began to escalate when the country’s first Muslim leader, Michel Djotodia, stepped down and went into exile last month. Djotodia, who had seized power in a coup last March, had been under pressure from regional leaders to resign. ...

Christians have also been victims of violence, targeted by Muslims in this complex communal conflict that U.N. and humanitarian officials fear could implode into genocide. Several hundred thousand Christians remain in crowded, squalid camps, unable or too afraid to return home.
. . .
Djotodia’s departure weakened the former Muslim rebels, known as Seleka, who carried out deadly attacks on Christians after they grabbed power in March, prompting the birth of Christian militias called the anti-balaka, or “anti-machete” in the local Sango language. The armed vigilantes have used the power vacuum to step up assaults on Muslims.

In summary - Muslims seize power and attack Christians, Christians defend themselves and drive off Muslims, you blame Christians.

Your "progressive" credentials are impeccable.

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[Anonymous Coward]

I must have have missed the part where the X-Men mutants had over a thousand years of history going around demanding everyone become a mutant and beheading anyone who wouldn't, all in the name of jihad.

Actually, demanding conversion at threat of death is an exception in the last one thousand years. Or even before that, for that matter.

Most Islamic states back then adopted the tradition following the Constitution of Medina, that didn't call for killing non-Muslims, but rather treat them with respect and even protect their rights. You could convert, OR you submit to rule by a Muslim state. Submitting to rule of the state sounds bad to our modern secular selves, but back then it was a very progressive form of religious tolerance from a non-secular government.

This tolerance allowed the Islamic world to flourish while the West was in its "dark" ages. Muslims and non-Muslims alike lived, worked, and traded. The wealth and knowledge (including ancient Greek and Roman knowledge) saved and accumulated would then later be brought back (through trade, not violence) to the West, helping the West launch its Renaissance.

The rise of "convert or die" is more of a result of the last century or so, which was a complicated mess for everybody (consider what happened to China or Russia or Japan in the same time period)

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[cold fjord]

I doubt that either Cheney or Rumsfeld are sociopaths. Cheney did back "gay marriage."

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[Anonymous Coward]

Bla bla bla. Singling out Muslims is pure bigotry. The only difference between Christian Terrorism and Islamic terrorism is that Christian Terrorism never makes the evening news..

Bwaaa HAAA HAAAA!!!

You're downright fucking risible.

And full of BULLSHIT.

How many people have your "Christian" equivalents of ISIS murdered - in the hundreds of years some have been around? How many have the KKK murdered in 150 years? At MOST what? 3000?

3000 is just ONE good day for Islamic terror.

Or 3,000 is a mere 10 percent of just the number of CHILDREN ISIS alone has killed in Syria alone in just the past couple of years:

Current Total Death Count in Syria: 250,000+
Children: 30,000

Again - crawl up out of Mommy's Basement Intellectual Shelter, grow a MAN'S intellectual balls, and read this UN report:

UNAMI/OHCHR has received reports of serious violations of international humanitarian law and gross abuses of human rights that have been perpetrated by ISIL and associated armed groups, with an apparentv systematic and widespread character. These include attacks directly targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure, executions and other targeted killings of civilians, abductions, rape and other forms of sexual and physical violence perpetrated against women and children, forced recruitment of children, destruction or desecration of places of religious or cultural significance, wanton destruction and looting of property, and denial of fundamental freedoms.

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[fustakrakich]

You claimed that Islam isn't violent right from the leader...

I said nothing of the sort! You are lying.. I said the money is the prime motivator, and that is the one true fact in all of this. You can use any religion to make money and produce propaganda. You are singling one group out and ignoring the rest. You are also ignoring that terrorism is a for profit business of the great empires and their holdings. So, feel free to drop the facade, if you are interested in any resolution.

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[fustakrakich]

Yeah,right. It's always "self defense" when your side does it. Sorry pal, try that crap on someone else.

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[fustakrakich]

Ah, so it's a numbers game. Please! Save your breath... Man! You sure do a great job of proving my point with your one sided bs! I do appreciate that, I guess.

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[Solandri]

I don't know what's scarier, ISIS itself, or the fact that international intelligence agencies are so clearly inept that they're actually incapable of stopping any sort of terror attacks. If they actually DID manage to stop terror attacks, they would be trumpeting their victories loudly and on the front page of every newspaper and every news website this side of the GMT line. The fact that they haven't is pretty much proof positive that in fact they haven't managed to do a damn thing.

Actually, no. The very nature of their job is that if they're successful, absolutely nothing happens. Consequently, the only evidence they have that an attack was thwarted are some written plans, drawings scrawled on a napkin, or chemicals that could be used to make a bomb. They can't even be sure that they really did stop a terror attack, or if they just caught some raving lunatic with delusions of executing a terror attack. And they can't crow about it until many years later, because doing so could tip off related terrorist cells that they're close to being captured.

In 1995, Philippine police stumbled upon a terrorist plot to assassinate the pope, bomb airliners, and fly one into CIA headquarters. The plot was discovered when the terrorists accidentally set fire to their apartment while preparing bombs. It hit the world news briefly, with most of the news services describing it as a plot to blow up airliners and fly them into buildings. My friends and I discussed it briefly. We concluded it was the Philippine police/intelligence exaggerating to try to make it look like they stopped something huge from happening. (1) If it was a real terrorist plot, why were they bragging to the international press about having thwarted it? Shouldn't they be keeping quiet while they used the intelligence they'd gathered to catch co-conspirators before they even realized their plot had been foiled? (2) While we knew there were wackos out there who had no qualms about bombing an airliner and killing everyone aboard it, the part about flying them into buildings was just too far-fetched. We had a psychologically barrier preventing us from conceiving of someone going beyond merely killing those people, to actually using them as part of a weapon to kill more people. Nobody could be so callous and disrespectful of human life, right? (3) It would require the perpetrator(s) to die aboard the plane as well. The whole point of using a bomb was that you didn't have to be aboard the plane when it went off. So that seemed unlikely as well.

Then 6 years later, 9/11 happened.

Anyhow, this is a big part of the problem with intelligence (and safety engineering for that matter). If you succeed, nothing happens and nobody hears about what you did. If you fail, you get blamed and it gets replayed on the news over and over. In light of a success being when nothing happens, how do you determine how effective your anti-terrorist ops are? What is an appropriate, measured response to the threat? Those in the intelligence and security community like to interpret nothing happening as an indicator of the great job they're doing, and why their (illegal) monitoring needs to be allowed to continue. Those opposed like to interpret nothing happening as an indicator that nothing would've happened if all those intelligence and security measures hadn't existed. Because the primary evidence is the lack of evidence, it can be interpreted to support both viewpoints.

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[Coren22]

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

You claimed that he is reading all the propaganda when he states what has been in the news as happening recently, as well as since the beginning of Islam. I then linked a Wikipedia entry detailing what has been happening recently, and you try to claim that it isn't only Muslims, like that has any bearing on the conversation of how horrible the Muslims have been acting recently. Like somehow a Christian response in CAR to Muslim violence is on the level of murdering a whole city of Yazidis. You are trying to redirect and claim that Muslims are being violent by saying that other religions are also violent. It doesn't matter, all the violence needs to be stopped, but currently the worst offenders are the Muslims in Iraq and Syria that are running around killing everyone (including other Muslims of the Shia version of the religion).

What does it matter that not all terrorists are Muslim to the fact that currently there are a large number of very violent Muslims that the world wants to stop?

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[Anonymous Coward]

Bla bla bla. Singling out Muslims is pure bigotry. The only difference between Christian Terrorism and Islamic terrorism is that Christian Terrorism never makes the evening news..

YOU are the one "singling out Muslims" by trying to excuse MUSLIM terrorism that is orders of magnitude WORSE than even combined CENTURIES of "Christian" terrorism.

Not ONE of your linked "Christian terror" groups had killed anywhere near the number of people ISIS has killed in just the past two years.

Bigotry runs both ways.

You bigot.

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[cold fjord]

It's self-defense when they are the ones that were originally attacked. Try your crap on someone else.

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[Anonymous Coward]

So ISIS burning villagers alive in cages for being from the "wrong" religion is totally the same as the US killing an Al Qaeda commander by drone strike? Seems legit.

It's mainly Muslims killing other Muslims that drives up the body count. That is the way it was in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and now Syria.

You need help, maybe a therapist.

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[Anonymous Cow Ward]

While I agree with you that governments eroding our rights and privacy is terrifying, and security agencies have way too much power, I'm not sure you can claim that they're inept just because they aren't pointing to attacks that didn't happen. The more you talk about attacks you stopped, the more the enemy knows how you stopped them, and how to bypass your defenses in the future. They may be allowing these attacks through now so that if a really big one (large bombs/chemical or biological agents, whatever) is about to happen, they can stop it. I'm inclined to believe that they're incompetent, but I don't think it's reasonable to claim it's "proof positive" of anything. And, of course, as other people have said, letting the attacks go through could be a nefarious way to gain more power.

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[Anonymous Coward]

This is counted as a counter-terrorism success story??

1. Richard Reid—December 2001. A British citizen and self-professed follower of Osama bin Laden who trained in Afghanistan, Richard Reid hid explosives inside his shoes before boarding a flight from Paris to Miami on which he attempted to light the fuse with a match. Reid was caught in the act and apprehended aboard the plane by passengers and flight attendants. FBI officials took Reid into custody after the plane made an emergency landing at Boston’s Logan International Airport.[3]

I'm fucking laughing so hard.

Did you read my comment? As I said, some were due to ineptness on the attackers, like Richard Reid. The printer cartidge plot was also due to ineptness, as was the underwear bomber. However I just presented 40 times where plots did not succeed, and 36 of those were due to law enforcement catching them before the attack went off. Cherry picking one item and then making a judgement about law enforcement from that one item is foolish at best, and intentionally misinforming yourself and others at worst.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Several reasons.

Sometimes it's useful to allow something to go through and not tip off the target that you're listening to their communications. The effort to hide the fact that the British cracked Enigma and that the US cracked the Chinese Naval codes during WW2 are prime examples of this.

Sometimes it's because the guy is being recruited from a country they can't go into and stop the recruitment. Most foreign fighter recruitment comes from places like Jordan, Khazakstan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia; stopping the new recruit from traveling to ISIS territory in those areas is very challenging.

Sometimes in the grand scheme of things letting a foot soldier make to ISIS territory does little to alter the overall strategic situation.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Ah, so it's a numbers game. Please! Save your breath... Man! You sure do a great job of proving my point with your one sided bs! I do appreciate that, I guess.

YOUR link is titled "Here are 8 Christian Terrorist Organizations That Equal ISIS"

So YOU made this a numbers game trying to fall back to "B-b-b-b-ut Christians are just as bad".

Well, they're NOT. There were no murders or even riots over Piss Christ.

So I was refuting your laughable claim trying to excuse MUSLIM terrorism by claiming that Christians are just as bad - there are NO non-Muslim groups that "equal" ISIS in its barbarity.

You're a fool.

Or maybe a Muslim engaging in taqiyya .

Linking to www.thereligionofpeace.com probably makes you head explode, doesn't it?

And making your head explode is a happy ending.

BWAAA HAA HAAA!!!

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[Anonymous Coward]

It's self-defense when they are the ones that were originally attacked.

The original act of violence was when Christianity rode into the region on the backs of European colonialism.

Christians then dominated control of government, as noted in the link that the rebel leader was the first Muslim to get power in the country.

If you want to play blame the progressive, well Christians are the bigger progressives as they are the ones on the side of government.

That the region has become so messed up that Christians have to defend themselves speaks more about the inability for Christians to rule than anything about Muslims.

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[Anonymous Coward]

As a trans female, I couldn't agree more. I've always defended the rights of people to speak out even when being directly offensive to me. At the same time, I reserve the right to tell them how much of an asshole/idiot/etc. they are. I don't really mind crossdressers/drag-queens being lumped into the LGBT group, but you're right that it is a bit offensive to say that they are "the same" as being transgender.

Glad to see there's others out there!

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[BarbaraHudson]

We have the current mess in the middle east thanks to the two gulf wars, which were done under the Bush-Cheney administration. Funny how they continued to push the whole WMD lie when, days before Colin Powell made the claim in the UN, international inspectors had said that they didn't exist (it was weird watching the news reports of this, which apparently the American media self-censored).

Also, a bunch of Saudi Arabians (and 4 non-Saudi nationals - none of them Iraqi) take down the WTC, and you back attacking attack Iraq??? That does NOT compute.

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[Krishnoid]

Actually, no. The very nature of their job is that if they're successful, absolutely nothing happens. Consequently, the only evidence they have that an attack was thwarted are some written plans, drawings scrawled on a napkin, or chemicals that could be used to make a bomb. They can't even be sure that they really did stop a terror attack, or if they just caught some raving lunatic with delusions of executing a terror attack.

Sounds like life in an IT infrastructure group.

And they can't crow about it until many years later, because doing so could tip off related terrorist cells that they're close to being captured.

Ok, maybe this one's a bit more of a stretch.

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[Anonymous Coward]

This reminds me of the Discworld book in which the generals of two opposing sides who having learned how to foight "the last war" both built rows of giant soldier concealing wooden horses along each other's borders expecting the enemy to bring the roses into their fortifications.

Yes, in WWII and in dealing with domestic organized crime, monitoring the communications and folowing the network to the top rather than taking imediate direct action which reveals your ability to monitor those communications worked well.

However, this is not those cases. And ultimately, the track record here seems to be that decapitation strikes against ledership make things worse, monitoring communications fails to stop attacks, and the enemy's recruitment startegy seems to be their gartest strength.

Undermining their strongest recruitment tools may well be more effective.

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[BarbaraHudson]

I say let the LGBT keep the drag queens. Intersex/transsexual is a whole different kettle of fish. I think Ru Paul said it best - "Anyone wanting to see me in a dress is going to pay for the privilege."

Cross-dressers can live out their fantasies their whole lives in private, and many of them do. They wouldn't dream of turning their outsie into an insie. Or having to live full-time as the opposite sex. They can simply revert to their previous identity for work, etc., and avoid dangerous or inconvenient situations, and they do. No big deal, it's their right to. And they can do this without much risk to their marriage etc. Relatives and friends will mostly slog it off as "George is a little quirky, but who isn't."

Funny thing is, long before gays, lesbians, bisexuals and cross-dressers were recognized as just another aspect of human nature, transsexuals were receiving the support of the medical community. That's the difference - we need doctors to help us - they don't. And we have had medicine on our side for decades before homosexuality and cross-dressing were no longer seen as something to be cured.

Our problems and our lives are much more complicated. After transition, how do you give potential employers references to previous employers without outing yourself? Even if you decide to "go it alone" and work for yourself, you still need satisfied clients as references. So you start over at the bottom of the ladder. Nobody would do that if they could avoid it. We can't. Someone who is gay, lesbian, bi, or a drag queen doesn't have that problem - their identity remains the same to employers and coworkers. This is a serious bread-and-butter issue that can interfere with the decision to transition.

For us, the relief of living in our target gender outweighs the problems (except when it doesn't, which helps explain that the high suicide risk from lack of acceptance by those closest to us being the #1 factor).

So, after so long thinking that the larger LGBT community was a help, I now see it as being a hindrance. And in retrospect, that's been the case for a while.

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[sixsixtysix]

The only time they stop them is when they themselves are complicit. We call them sting operations.

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[CaptainDork]

This, exactly except here's some more and stuff:

The terrorists have the same capabilities as governments and Anonymous.

Hell, you and I have the same stuff.

It's all the same computers, operating systems, Internet, etc.

All that mass snooping by governments give LEOs an excellent bag of evidence after the fact but, as you point out, governments don't have anything in the way of prediction for the purposes of prevention.

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[Anonymous Coward]

He also doesn't seem to suffer from various personality disorders and syndromes common here

He shot someone in the face, then made the person he shot in the face apologize for it.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Most of the list of 39 foiled plots are just laughable. The one about cutting down the Brooklyn bridge with blowtorches? Please. Not to mention all the "plots" which were just "conspiring to provide material support for terrorists". Basically, what this list tells me is that there's a massively funded security apparatus that captures a handful of criminals a year.

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[Anonymous Coward]

So ISIS burning villagers alive in cages for being from the "wrong" religion is totally the same as the US killing an Al Qaeda commander by drone strike? Seems legit.

It's mainly Muslims killing other Muslims that drives up the body count. That is the way it was in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and now Syria.

You need help, maybe a therapist.

Nah, he needs a crying towel.

I've already bitch-slapped his stupid candy ass enough.

Hey, fustakrakich, got any refutations for my claims that there's no equal terror group in the entire history of humanity that can equal the body count of just one ISLAMIC terror group: ISIS?

Guess what?

One of these days, radical Islam is going to go too far and really piss of someone in the West - then we'll do what we did to Japan when THEY went on their war of conquest against those they consider subhuman: nuke those fuckers until they glow.

Then shove bacon up their asses when we cut off their dicks so they can go be virgins for all the male pigs on Satan's own pig farm in hell. And Satan's pigs are hung like horses!

BWAAA HAA HAAA!!!!

Yeah, I'm laughing at you.

And regarding your post about Christians having the better weapons - that's because Western Christians have this belief called science where we study things like cause and effect, and don't relegate everything to "because of the will of Allah." Such a backwards, literally Medieval belief system is why there aren't any Nobel Prize winners who practice science in Islamic countries.

Have I left enough marks on your psyche now?

Well, the slap fest was well earned.

Next time, it'll be a baseball bat.

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[fustakrakich]

Muslims Muslims Muslims! You're doing that Brady Bunch Thing? *Marsha Marsha Marsha!*

The worst offenders? Well of course! As told by Western Press releases.. Eh, believe what you want, but the crap you are posting is pure bigotry. And this is exactly how the terrorists want it. It keeps your mind off the institutions, governments, etc that finance and arm them. You are doing a good job of spreading their message. It's the business, not religion that you should direct your attention, if you are interested in not being part of the problem.

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[fustakrakich]

Originally? When in 3000 BC? You are showing a great deal of bias, nothing new there. Terrorism is a business. That is all it is. Pick the religion of your choice to rile up the natives. Throw in a few drugs and US dollars (that is what the fighters are paid in) to work the magic, and voila! Damn near as good as a robot/drone... If you're going to single people out, save your breath. The profits tell the whole story.

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[fustakrakich]

I did NOT claim that Muslims are not violent. You are making shit up. And besides, fuck the Muslims and the Christians, and find the people that profit from terrorism, those would be the people selling weapons and drugs and the banks that launder their money. That was what you try so hard to avoid with your Muslim schtick. None of you want to deal with it. You just want to stay comfortable and follow the herd. This is perfectly natural, but just a little sub-human.

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[cold fjord]

Originally, as in the start of the current crisis. It even mentions it i the article you linked to. Didn't you read it? It seems likely you didn't.
For all of the song and dance you just provided I don't see anything showing "profits" in the CAR.
Terrorism isn't a business, but some business engage in terrorism to support their business. Example: Narco-terrorists in Central/South America
Terrorism isn't a business, but some terrorist groups engage in business or crime to get the funds to continue fighting for their goal. Example: Hezbollah has thousands of agents in the US, many of them engaging in cigarette smuggling to get funds for the main organization. Al Qaeda used kidnapping and bank robberies to fund itself in Iraq.
There is little mystery in most of this except what on earth you are going on about.

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[fustakrakich]

No, it's a business, designed for the arms merchants and other powerful players, and is financed by the state (your taxes, yes, you are financing terrorism, don't even try to deny that). They a lot to gain by fomenting war, by whatever means. You're just trying to prop up all that religious/political nonsense to keep the rubes distracted and scared. Fear is also big business, part and parcel to your terrorism thing, all to create a more powerful state/corp. You seem to be disinterested in executive command and control, and would prefer that everyone else ignores it also. Maybe you have a dog in this race? Or are you just going along for the ride?

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[Anonymous Coward]

Bear in mind that we're talking about quite a long period of history here. During this time period, for example, many Christian states made being, for example, Jewish a capital offense (usually after giving them a very short period of time to abandon their homes and other property and flee. For example, it was illegal to be Jewish in England from 1290 to possibly as late as 1858 (it became semi-legal in 1657, but not completely. .

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[tehcyder]

Hell, if they were so successful in monitoring ISIS, why the fuck weren't they able to stop the Paris attacks from happening in the first place?

Groups like ISIS use social media for general propaganda, recruitment, etc, not detailing their military plans.

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[dave420]

And 620,000 died in the US civil war, so I guess Christians are a bunch of vicious twats. See how your ridiculous "logic" works? You've obviously made up your mind and are searching for evidence to bolster it. You can't find any, so you stoop to simple numbers without context, as that's the best weapon you've got. You're like an intellectual ISIS - all bluster, no sense, and destined for the same future - despised obscurity.

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[dave420]

And again you use your arbitrary definitions and time frames to demonstrate your arguments like a scared child trying to explain why it's not their fault they stole a cake. You are a pathetic excuse for a sentient being - you have handed over your critical thinking to others, and you chose those others poorly. Now their inane ideas are reflecting on you, and you look like a simpering fool dribbling out obvious nonsense because to do otherwise would break what's left of your frail, dusty, lazy heart.

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[Coren22]

I posted links to actual evidence. You posted a link to Christian groups responding to violence in CAR and tried to equate the two. They are both wrong, but you are trying to minimize what is happening in Iraq and Syria like it even matters. It is all horrible and needs to stop, why the need to minimize the violence that is coming out of Muslim lands? Do you have a personal stake in it? Are you a member of DAESH trying to make them look good on the internet? They already failed that effort when they beheaded fellow Muslims and peaceful Christians and posted the videos online.

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[Coren22]

You claimed that we are infected with the propaganda, like somehow what is happening in Iraq and Syria is a huge propaganda war, and not really horribly violent genocide. You are the one making shit up, not me. the DAESH have been posting videos of their atrocities online for all to see. They blow up ancient ruins with huge historic value that were still being studied, they behead anyone who doesn't follow their very strict interpretation of Islam (about 99% of Muslims don't follow that interpretation). They behead anyone who refuses to convert. They even behead people who try to leave their organization. But we all are infected by the propaganda, we should all be looking into Christians getting overzealous in reacting to attacks by terrorists in CAR. Those are some horrible Christians who were attacked and had their families killed by Muslim attackers.

So, lets minimize all this violence and find the people profiting from the violence. Perhaps it is this Al Baghdadi guy who claims to be the next Caliph, and to be creating a Caliphite for all the Muslims to be subjected to his rule. He is the one making money from stolen oil, and living like a king while attracting followers to his banner.

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[fustakrakich]

You're posting meaningless bullshit. Fanatics are fanatics. And they kill for cheap, but not for free. American dollars are financing the whole operation on all sides. Bleh, whatever, you go ahead, keep your propaganda machine well oiled.. And don't look now, but I think you're being tailed, a friend of yours perhaps?

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[fustakrakich]

Wild, man! Keep on truckin'

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[Anonymous Coward]

You must be that APK weirdo, just spamming your own extremism... You people are a bunch of wackos. Now, go back to spanking your little bitty monkey there.

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[matfud]

Notice how the articles said he stepped down. (or ran away).

Does that justify attacking and killing muslims? They are not defending themselves anymore. They are killing people under the justification of religion.

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[matfud]

No in England we just herded them jews on to a tidal flat and waited for the waters to come in. Nobody is good in this argument. It is the usual loonies.

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[Agripa]

I don't know what's scarier, ISIS itself, or the fact that international intelligence agencies are so clearly inept that they're actually incapable of stopping any sort of terror attacks.

It is not quite that bad. The FBI has stopped lots of FBI led terrorist attacks.

Bullshit

[kbg]

If the intellegency can't do their job just because Anonymous is shutting down public Twitter accounts and flodding Rick Astley video on hashtags, then they are not competent at their job. They have direct access to all these social media databases which Anonymous doesn't.

Anything that hinders ISIS in spreading their message is a good thing.

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[SuricouRaven]

Or at least indirect - at most a warrant away, on those occasions intelligence agencies actually bother with such hindrances as the legal system.

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[Anonymous Coward]

Since when has 'anonymous' been anything other than a 4chan meme?
Really, when you see some professional video from 'anonymous' as if its an organised group with a leadership, logo etc. that is someone doing an agenda with a budget and employees and not some random 4chan'ers in their basements.

So bullshit indeed. As to whether it harms counter terrorism, its some side issue. Some random trolls countered by other random trolls most of which will be spooks making spook bullshit instead of their job of actually catching terrorists.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

I agree. If the CIA, NSA, FBI whatever agencies are only able to surf the web for their intel, then they are no good at all. At least Anonymous is TRYING to do the right thing which is a F&%K of a lot better the Obama.

Or president is not only failing to stop ISIS, he is inviting them to the USA and giving them food stamps, free housing and free health care in the bargain. Wake up folks.

Re: Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

Let's not pretend Neckbeards Anonymous is even close to effective at anything but lokking retarded with their Guy Fawkes mask videos.

Re:Bullshit

[oobayly]

It's not that they "can't do their job", it's that it's making it harder than it could be. I'm completely against mass monitoring of populations, but if the security services have gone to a judge to get a warrant to monitor an individual then I have to accept that they've jumped through the legal hoops, so they should be allowed to get on with their job.

By Anonymous outing people (that can't go wrong can it), and shutting down accounts, then the security services access (legal or otherwise) to social media databases is completely useless.

Re:Bullshit

[rtb61]

Sound investigatory practices would seek to gain by the chaos being caused in communications. Tracking the sites means tracking the members and as communications are disrupted more risky exposed communications are set up, often leading deeper into those organisations. The only real problem is spy vs spy being cut off and risk being exposed as they hastily attempt to re-establish communications. Might be a bad thing, however as several countries have been playing as terrorists in order to further corporate and imperialistic political agendas, this also might not be a bad thing as it would expose them to investigatory agencies in the countries in which they have been acting illegally.

This brings to mind those laws for aiding and abetting terrorist activities and whether or not the US government will be prosecuting those government officials from the US, Saudi Arabia and Israel who have aided and abetted terrorist activities, including the supply of arms and munitions as they have just recently agreed to do so in a unanimous UN Security council vote. When you supply arms through negligent corrupt activities without proper forethought and planning, that is criminal negligence and prosecutable, no fucking excuses.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, please. It's painfully obvious to anyone watching the news that intelligence agencies know perfectly well what terrorists are up to and what they're doing, but they steadfastly refuse to actually do anything about it.

In the week since the Paris attacks, there have been doors kicked in all over Paris in order to deal with terrorists embedded in the population. Do you honestly think that international intelligence agencies somehow happened across all of this information in the span of less than a week? They knew all of this information well before the Paris attacks, but didn't choose to act on it.

Their job is a cakewalk, I have a hard time ginning up much sympathy as to how much harder their job is made by a bunch of basement-dwelling recluses when they are already choosing not to act on information that's sitting right in their laps.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

It's not that they "can't do their job", it's that it's making it harder than it could be.

Easiest way to catch terrorists would be right after they have done their strike.

Perhaps easiness of the work of security services is not the main goal, instead of reducing terrorism.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

The article is from The Metro, this is a free paper in the UK published by The Daily Mail Group, aka the UK's most full of shit paper organisation putting even Murdoch's lot to shame. It's a hard right organisation that also supports things like lynching Snowden and other such idiocy.

They're bound to hate anonymous and spout nonsense, because they're a bunch of under educated bootlickers.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

You have no idea how the real world works

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

Easiest way to catch terrorists would be right after they have done their strike.

When the pieces are falling back down? How do you know where you have to be? Even a big bomb won't throw pieces so high you could manage to travel to the scene from any non-trivial distance.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

If the three-letter agencies are having trouble sifting through the rickrolling, isn't this good evidence that the efforts by Anonymous are having the desired effect? Bear with me.
The point is to shut down the communication and propaganda channels of the extremists and to make the spreaders of said propaganda seem less than unstoppable. Obviously many of these channels have been rendered unusable and/or unintelligible. Isn't getting shut down by script kiddies really detrimental to your image of doing "righteous" work? How long will impressionable young males will be willing to search for their daily dose of propaganda when their leaders are constantly having their asses handed to them online?

Re:Bullshit

[barlevg]

If the intellegency can't do their job just because Anonymous is... flodding Rick Astley video on hashtags, then they are not competent at their job.

Agree 100%. Unless these morons are using effing HootSuite, ANY competently-written social media crawler can filter out this kind of stuff. The ONLY effect that this will have is to make it harder for lower-tech users (such as ISIS recruiters/recruitees) to get their message across on the medium.

Re:Bullshit

[silentcoder]

And er... what exactly are they supposed to do *before* hand anyway ?
This is the free world - we aren't allowed to lock people up who haven't committed a crime. Sure conspiracy is a crime, but it's not an easy one to prove.

The truth is there is very little that free countries *can* do to prevent terrorism, which is why it's been a part of their history for the last 200 years. There is nothing new or special about current events. There has been some group or another bombing civilians in Europe or the USA every single decade since well before the US revolution.
This is just the latest in a long, long line and at no point in all that history has your risk of dying in such an attack *ever* been higher than about 1 millionth of your risk of dying because you slipped in the shower. Suicide is a much more likely way to die.

Actually in terms of ways to die... this is so far down the list that there is absolutely *no* sanity in being the least bit concerned about it. And everybody losing their minds over it is simply abundant proof that humans are absolutely terrible at risk assessment.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

You've completely missed the point.

First off they don't have direct access. That would require a warrant, and be limited in scope. And not all the forums will be on social media like Facebook or Twitter - plenty will be forums run on private websites.

Secondly having access to that database doesn't help you much. The information is a needle in a haystack, and you won't find it without knowing the exact phrase to search for. Many of the posts won't give you a hit as they don't give many specifics.

Thirdly the entire point of leaving the account open and monitoring it is to catch what they have *not* said yet. It's far easier to watch everything a known suspect says than search for an unknown needle in a gigantic haystack.

Re: Bullshit

[king neckbeard]

That doesn't preclude being more more competent than our spies AND ISIS, though.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

You realize, you're probably arguing with an ISIS troll. It's not like they've never heard of /.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

You misunderstand what their job is. Their job is to keep us afraid. If the terrorists can't recruit, then who will we be afraid of?

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

Missing the point entirely.

make it harder for lower-tech users (such as ISIS recruiters/recruitees) to get their message across on the medium?

Meaning that they switch to another service, either a new unknown account or something more secure like Telegram. The result is previously the intelligence agency were watching a known suspect and analyzing their every post but now can't see their new posts. So the agency will now miss it then they post their plans a couple of weeks after Anonymous get the old account closed.

Hardly the *only* effect.

Re:Bullshit

[c]

Sure conspiracy is a crime, but it's not an easy one to prove.

Even when the conspirators are sitting on a stockpile of forged documents, assault rifles, ammunition and explosives?

Criminals (of any sort, not just terrorists) need tools and intelligence (of the targeting sort, not the brainpower sort), and the best opportunity to stop them is during the phase where they're gathering that stuff. Obviously, you're not going to do much if the attacker is basically walking out the door with a knife and stabbing the first person they see, but bigger targets need more tools and information gathering.

I'm not making an argument, by the way, for pervasive surveillance or anything like that; it's pretty darn obvious now that law enforcement goes to shit when you do it with a dragnet. But there's definitely a time and place for law enforcement doing proper undercover intelligence gathering and investigations. If they stopped dicking around with all the Orwellian stuff they might even have the time and money to do it right.

Re:Bullshit

[king neckbeard]

We've bent over backwards for them already, and they have given us nothing. If this is enough to seriously damage their plans, they are too incompetent to be doing anything in the first place.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

That depends on what the laws are on possessing forged documents, assault rifles, ammunition, and explosives.

Re:Bullshit

[BarbaraHudson]

To recruit people, you need t make your social media posts public. Shutting them down drops recruitment capabilities. Having to direct people to the new account to "continue the conversation" is kind of hard when the account they've bookmarked is dead.

Re:Bullshit

[BarbaraHudson]

So how do you make first contact with a potential new recruit if you're not making publicly readable posts? And if after the first contact you give them your covert channel, you know that will be shut down almost as quickly because you don't know if you're giving the info to law enforcement or internet trolls.

Re:Bullshit

[BarbaraHudson]

Bullcrap. They have access to the initial public posts made by people recruiting for ISIS. They use twitter and facebook and youtube because that's what their potential recruits use. If they posted their recruiting crap here, they'd get trolled SO bad ...

Re:Bullshit

[kheldan]

Wow.

The general opinions in this conversation boil down to two sentiments:

They aren't stopping attacks so they must not be doing their jobs!

and

If Anonymous is 'getting in their way' then they must be incompetent!

with a dash of

They must be allowing these attacks to happen to keep us scared, it's a conspiracy!

thrown in for good measure from the paranoid conspiracy theory crowd.

I've said it before on this subject and I'll say it again: Unless you're a current or past analyst for an intelligence agency, you don't know a gods-be-damned thing about being an intelligence analyst, and watching Jason Bourne and James Bond movies doesn't mean a gods-be-damned thing. Anything that any of you have to say on the subject is just your opinions, and as such isn't worth the price of a cup of coffee at Starbucks. You're doing the equivalent of your non-IT (or non-engineer, or non-coder, take your pick) relative criticizing you because you can't fix their borqed-up computer in five minutes or less.

Re:Bullshit

[Coren22]

Anonymous has likely gotten some honey pot accounts shut down. That would hinder their ability to honey pot people looking to join DAESH, wouldn't it?

Re:Bullshit

[Coren22]

Even when the conspirators are sitting on a stockpile of forged documents, assault rifles, ammunition and explosives?

In the south, that is called Friday night. You just need some alcohol for good measure.

Assault rifles, explosives, and ammunition are not against the law. Forged documents, it really depends on what it is and if you try to pass it off as legitimate.

Re:Bullshit

[Coren22]

It depends on the strike. If it is from a drone, you are unlikely to find much to catch.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

... And everybody losing their minds over it is simply abundant proof that humans are absolutely terrible at risk assessment.

I thought it was abundant proof that humans are absolutely terrible at statistics.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

Thanks for your useless fact devoid post random internet fuckwit.

Fuck off back to your hole, idiot.

Re:Bullshit

[c]

Assault rifles, explosives, and ammunition are not against the law.

In most (sane) countries they're restricted, and even if they aren't they're pretty damning if combined with evidence of a conspiracy to commit an act of terrorism.

It's a bit like the "possession of burglary tools" charge that gets tacked on to a break and enter... having a crowbar isn't illegal. Having a crowbar while crawling through someone's backyard at 4am is an indication that you're not just really, really drunk.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh noes, I've been called out for posting whiny bullshit, I think I'll throw a temper-tantrum over it!

Are you going to hold your breath until you turn blue, too, throw your mouse across the room (again), and bang on your keyboard with your fists? Don't forget your towel so you can wipe the spittle off your monitor, otherwise it'll short out. What a loser.

Re:Bullshit

[Anonymous Coward]

So how do you make first contact with a potential new recruit if you're not making publicly readable posts?

A business card or written note, shake their hand and say "Hey, I heard you're looking to make a difference" -- you know... IRL communication.
Recruit on the ground, then tell them how to get more information/further orders online.

Re:Bullshit

[BarbaraHudson]

So how do you make first contact with a potential new recruit if you're not making publicly readable posts?

A business card or written note, shake their hand and say "Hey, I heard you're looking to make a difference" -- you know... IRL communication. Recruit on the ground, then tell them how to get more information/further orders online.

The recruits are in another country, no can do. If it was possible to meet them in real life, there'd be no need for social media conversations.

Harming intel operations?

[Anonymous Coward]

More like the NSA and other 3 letter organizations are being shown up by Anons.

Show me one place where their warrantlessly wiretapping citizens has lead to one terrorist being stopped or inconvenienced in the slightest?

Anonymous has basically shut down ISIS's recruiting machine. Show me where any of the Govt. organizations have been able to do anything that effective short of putting boots on the ground or short of flying drones over syria and bombing suspected terrorist camps (and killing innocents in the crossfire by the way.)

You can't do it.

Re:Harming intel operations?

[Etherwalk]

More like the NSA and other 3 letter organizations are being shown up by Anons.

Not really. This was an obvious possible backfire.

Also, you don't tell the other guy you broke his codes. Intelligence is by its nature secretive. It is as tinfoil-hat to believe that the NSA has never intercepted intelligence to stop terrorist attacks as it is to believe that they are listening to every conversation within range of any microphone.

Re:Harming intel operations?

[Anonymous Coward]

It is as tinfoil-hat to believe that the NSA has never intercepted intelligence to stop terrorist attacks as it is to believe that they are listening to every conversation within range of any microphone.

Sorry, I lost count of the number of negatives by the time I was half way through that sentence.

Re:Harming intel operations?

[Anonymous Coward]

More like the NSA and other 3 letter organizations are being shown up by Anons.

Not really. This was an obvious possible backfire.

Also, you don't tell the other guy you broke his codes. Intelligence is by its nature secretive. It is as tinfoil-hat to believe that the NSA has never intercepted intelligence to stop terrorist attacks as it is to believe that they are listening to every conversation within range of any microphone.

You have missed the point entirely.

Anonymous has made the "telling the other guy you broke his codes" rigamarole irrelevant. They have shut down or at the very worst severely impeded ISIS's recruiting mechanism.

Regardless of whether we believe the NSA is listening to everyone or not, they clearly have not done anything to affect ISIS as ISIS is still out there performing terrorist attacks.. so therefore I ask again (as you avoided the question before and put in your commentary which I have shot down..)

Show me one example of how the NSA has done anything to stop ISIS.. and again you can't do it.

The NSA is pissed because of their true nature being revealed by Snowden, and now they are getting shown up by Anonymous.. and so they are trying to wage a weak media campaign to demonize the people that are stepping up and actually doing something somewhat effective.

Re:Harming intel operations?

[Anonymous Coward]

If you think ISIS actually gains any significant number of recruits through Twitter, you're the true idiot.

Re: Harming intel operations?

[Anonymous Coward]

So why does they (ISIS) create so many accounts if they have no value for them?

Re:Harming intel operations?

[Anonymous Coward]

> Rick Astley drowns out intelligence as well as recruitment.

To me this sounds like a tradeoff between a short term solution (intelligence gathering) vs long term solution (recruitment). The short term solution doesn't prevent the existence of ISIS, but it does provide jobs for the intelligence (?) groups. Blocking recruitment will kill off, or at the least reduce the size of ISIS. If you don't organize (i.e. recruit), you can't effect change - sort of like in politics.

Re: Harming intel operations?

[fustakrakich]

Apparently to keep Anonymous occupied and on the front page.

Re:Harming intel operations?

[Anonymous Coward]

It is as tinfoil-hat to believe that the NSA has never intercepted intelligence to stop terrorist attacks as it is to believe that they are listening to every conversation within range of any microphone.

Sorry, I lost count of the number of negatives by the time I was half way through that sentence.

Not sure I'd brag about that as there's only one negative in that sentence (never)...

Re:Harming intel operations?

[BarbaraHudson]

you don't tell the other guy you broke his codes

There are no "codes". These are public postings for the purpose of recruiting easily manipulated people - and using facebook, twitter, and youtube is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Re:Harming intel operations?

[BarbaraHudson]

Read the news. They recruit plenty of people via facebook, twitter, and youtube.

The Professionals

[Anne Thwacks]

It is the job of the professional security agencies to lie. It is safe to assume everything they say is a lie, unless proven otherwise!

Rickrolling will never be the same

[zuki]

I found this article more than a bit Astonishing.

Re:Rickrolling will never be the same

[Purity Of Essence]

s/Rickrolling/Consequences/

Re:Rickrolling will never be the same

[Anonymous Coward]

I thought it was ghASTLEY.

That CAN be a good things too..

[Anonymous Coward]

Not that i think anonymous will have eliminated ISIS activity overnight, but it's not unreasonable to think that another reason intelligence sources are going quiet is because spamming their connections to the public is having a positive effect.

Pushing intel to do their job

[Anonymous Coward]

No attacks have been prevented by monitoring twitter. Every attack (9/11, Charlie, train, Paris) had humint that was ignored.

Did intel actually complain?

[towermac]

One guy: "‘When it comes to terrorist attacks, one of the big worries is that you could take down forums and cost someone their lives,’ a GhostSec spokesman known only as Digital Shadow told..." And it is the really the article author that is telling us, even Mr. Shadow simply said it was a worry.

I didn't think Anon was all that good before, something like the medicine is as bad as the disease. You could say they were close to terrorists themselves, as their releases hurt lots of good people, no matter how worthy their cause was.

This is of course, a good cause. The best. If there was ever a way for Anon to redeem themselves, not just to me, but to the intel hawks in Washington that hate them; this is it. I don't think Intel is complaining, and If they are smart, they can use this to enrich, verify, and prune the intelligence they have now. If they are watching people that get Anon-rolled, then they will see results and reactions, or the lack thereof; all of which is good intel.

Re:Did intel actually complain?

[drinkypoo]

This is of course, a good cause. The best. If there was ever a way for Anon to redeem themselves, not just to me, but to the intel hawks in Washington that hate them; this is it. I don't think Intel is complaining, and If they are smart, they can use this to enrich, verify, and prune the intelligence they have now. If they are watching people that get Anon-rolled, then they will see results and reactions, or the lack thereof; all of which is good intel.

Yep. There is no legitimate argument against this behavior, because if you're worried about them filtering out positives you just watch what they're doing and then study up who they're doing it to. Anonymous is probably better at it than the security services, so in fact they're making things easier.

Re:Did intel actually complain?

[Anonymous Coward]

Why would Intel complain? You think they'll sell less processors now?

Re:Did intel actually complain?

[Anonymous Coward]

drinkypoo, this is an idiotic comment even by your standards. The legitimate arguments against this behaviour have already been made. All that remains is to see if you think you know more about this subject than the people who do it for a living. And, since it's you, obviously you do, although you've failed to even write a comprehensible sentence here to demonstrate it.

Let me spell it out for you: If ISIS members are on easily-located (i.e. those Anon fuckwits can find them without help) social networking accounts they can be monitored to some extent, and information leakage will occur which can be exploited. If those accounts are closed down by supposedly well-meaning idiots then you lose that. It's really not rocket science.

In words you might understand: Anonymous are the Leroy Jones of counter-terrorism.

Re: Did intel actually complain?

[Anonymous Coward]

There can be no leakage since this is propaganda channels and not communications channels. Also all account holders are more than likely to send from within Isis controlled territories so tracking them is useless.

Re:Did intel actually complain?

[BarbaraHudson]

Many posters have pointed out that the "legitimate arguments" are both bogus, and have failed in their job. Shutting down their public recruiting channels means that it's not possible to carry on the conversation with potential new recruits, who now have to figure out where their "friendly recruiter" is now posting.

Re:Did intel actually complain?

[towermac]

Heh, I do understand that.

It's Jenkins though. Not Jones.

Doesnt matter

[Anonymous Coward]

Seeing as the "intelligence" services are doing fuck all to prevent these things i dont really give a shit.

Re:Doesnt matter

[Anonymous Coward]

Seeing as the "intelligence" services are doing fuck all to prevent these things i dont really give a shit.

The intel services have handicapped themselves by thinking that spying on american citizens without a warrant helps stop terrorism, when in fact it undermines the law, the constitution and the trust of the American people. This is why Anonymous can step up and be more effective at stopping ISIS online at least. If the NSA followed the law, targeted only suspected terrorists and got warrants for all their wiretaps, they would be orders of magnitude more effective at catching terrorists and it would take orders of magnitude less work.

This is why we need a tech savvy president and a congress that does something other than criticize the president while sitting around with their thumbs up their asses trying to repeal Obamacare.. We need to let the smart people run things for a while and get the dumb asses out of positions of power while the war on terror is going on.

How do we do this? We can start by educating voters, but when a large portion of the deep south of the US believes that nothing matters because god is in his heaven, and therefore elect the guy that hits their religion buttons just right... these morons get in power. There is no separation of church and state and this is a major problem that the current set of laws and amendments does not address effectively.

Re:Anonymous is for cows.

[Anonymous Coward]

It wasn't funny the first time.
Get a life.

I suspect that the "anonymous" attacks are ..

[Chrisq]

I suspect that the "anonymous" attacks are the intelligence agencies. My thoughts were that they can find thousands of accounts with maybe a 5% error rate. They cannot get a warrant with that, and don't want complaints of "you brought down my legitimate site" so they just have an "anonymous" announcement that they will do it.

Re:I suspect that the "anonymous" attacks are ..

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, it is a good sign that a free economy is really a sham to a large degree, and governmental subsidies/cooperation is required for any real success. I don't have a problem with it, just pointing that out. Philosophically they still have a right to that opinion. That would be like saying, "funny how most of the abolitionists, tend to be participating in the slave system [as slaves]"

Re:I suspect that the "anonymous" attacks are ..

[dave420]

I wouldn't put it past you to conjure up fantasies like this. You seem predisposed to casting a superficial glance over a subject and then turning any analysis over to your prejudices to do the hard work. You've made that patently clear with your smearing of over 1.6 billion people because of the actions of a tiny portion thereof.

Rational people use evidence, not guesswork, in order to learn about and understand the world.

Yes, because instead of disrupting their comms...

[mindmaster064]

We should let them talk so we can spend shit loads of money bombing them. Screw the media -- this is completely crushing ISIS' ability to coordinate and that exactly what we want. Letting them use any channel is just asking for trouble -- shut it all down!

What Counter-terrorism?

[Anonymous Coward]

So the, rather short, article doesn't actually refer to any government agency (intelligence, police or otherwise). Just two organisations that seem to trawl the Web playing "spy".

No shit

[DrXym]

Security services are more than capable of shutting down accounts / sites if they feel so inclined. I assume they don't because it's of more use to keep them up - to see who makes posts, who follows them, who is mapped to who, how information spreads, to look for surges in activity, or codewords and so on. In time they might shut down the account / site, or infiltrate it but it would be to maximize their advantage. I bet some of the sites are even their own operations to begin with.

But that assumes there aren't a bunch of asshats getting in the way the whole time. Which there now are. If anonymous wanted to be of use in the fight on terror they'd stay out of the way or do something passive.

What's it good for?

[Anonymous Coward]

Of course, hindering all ISIS propaganda is great... but what is this twitter flooding *actually* doing against ISIS? It's not like ISIS can't operate if they can't use twitter anymore.

Speaking of recruitment...

[fuzzyfuzzyfungus]

Aside from the intelligence advantages of having people who are comparatively difficult to infiltrate in person voluntarily post lots of stuff to online services almost entirely within western jurisdictions; I have to wonder how much of the freak-out about ISIS' Twitter Accounts!!! is reasonable, and how much of it is a petulant reaction from western military and intelligence officials who have no real experience with not enjoying substantial media cooperation and the ability to keep things 'on message' as they prefer.

They certainly like to talk about 'radicalization' as though it is something that can insidiously corrupt anyone exposed to enemy propaganda, regardless of their prior circumstances; but what do we actually know about the impressionability of these 'radicalized' targets? Does it actually work on anyone; or primarily on people who were somewhere between deeply skeptical of, and overtly hostile to, 'the west' in the first place?

In the same vein, given that there are nontrivial numbers of people who are anywhere between skeptical and hostile; are we actually worse off if the sinister terrorist propaganda incites them to leave and go join the glorious struggle in jihadistan? Yes, having more recruits available makes our attempt to pretend that Iraq isn't a total clusterfuck harder; but it also means that the people who most actively dislike us are no longer living next door and brooding; but off getting themselves killed, or enjoying their medieval theocracy.

I'd certainly wan to avoid having people leave and then return; that is just asking for trouble; but are we actually worse off if the people who like us least have an exciting relocation option?

Re:Speaking of recruitment...

[Anonymous Coward]

We don't live in a vacuum. Your arguments make no sense in the real world. Radicalization is real. Fucked up kids who turn to the wrong people and homicidal sociopaths exist everywhere. Sending them all to the middle east to become bloodthirsty jihadis is not an answer.

Re:Speaking of recruitment...

[fuzzyfuzzyfungus]

The 'not living in a vacuum' issue is sort of the whole point: my question is whether we lose more by having garden-variety not terribly dangerous losers 'radicalized' into more dangerous ones; or whether we gain more by having an outlet for people to make their intentions clear by running off to fight in Syria. This obviously isn't an ideal scenario; but given the difficulty we've had in distinguishing between the merely disgruntled and the actively dangerous; that sort of clarity has some value.

Re:Speaking of recruitment...

[Anonymous Coward]

Those terrorists are coming back. Perhaps you should read the news instead of the propaganda from your echo chamber.

Re:Speaking of recruitment...

[Anonymous Coward]

The US military is nothing if not petulant...

What's really harming counter-terrorism

[Anonymous Coward]

It's our so-called leaders, running around like headless chicken what's really harming counter-terrorism. And the press, which benefits from "something actually happening".

Why does the trivia of one passport which went through greece get so much coverage, instead of the fact that most perpetrators in Paris were living for a long time in France and Belgium (heck, a couple of them were *born* there)?

Those horrible deeds are in preparation since a long time, at least since the 2000s -- probably quite a bit earlier.

We should be posing the hard questions: why is such a radicalization possible, in the middle of our oh-so-tolerant and advanced society? What could we do about that?

Bull shit!

[Anonymous Coward]

Imagine a day when intelligence agencies had to work to obtain information. Ya know like the cold war. What happened to assassinations, bribes, breaking and entering, and the like? They had to get the information they needed the hard way! There was none of this fascist shit of monitoring the public.

Oooh. I forgot America is now full of a bunch of pussies (liberals) who have to have politically correct everything! The liberals are the only reason intelligence doesn't work! A-holes!

Kick Them Off

[Anonymous Coward]

Just kick them off from the public web so that efforts of the agencies can be focused on the darker place, where the other disgustingly behaving people lurk.

Stop monitoring, start fighting!

[Anonymous Coward]

All what the secrets are doing is surveillance. All they want to do is monitoring. It is safe, and convenient. When will we starting taking real action? Like fight those guys? Anonymous came and did fight, did destroy those communication channels. Should we be sorry as there is nothing to monitor or be happy the bad guys have one less way to communicate?

Surveillance will not stop terrorism.

Re:Stop monitoring, start fighting!

[Cederic]

When will we starting taking real action? Like fight those guys?

So airstrikes aren't real action? Just what do you want?

Do please take into account regional tensions and global politics in your answer, unless of course you want to confirm your stupidity.

Pity poor Rick Aston

[jrumney]

Rick Aston is this minute being waterboarded by CIA agents trying to find out the hidden messages in Rick Astley's hit meme song. All because of a fly that landed on the typewriter ribbon at the wrong time.

Re:Pity poor Rick Aston

[Anonymous Coward]

typewriter?

The beauty of assymetrical warfare

[Anonymous Coward]

On one side jihad, on the other, rickrolling...

Re:The beauty of assymetrical warfare

[Anonymous Coward]

yeah, if you are rickrolled you have to live with that the rest of your life...

are we sure that constant rickrolling won't drive more people to become suicide bombers? maybe this is actually an ingenious new recruitment strategy that ISIS has implemented and/or a new terrorist attack.

So you prefer them to data mine the whole thing?

[MikeRT]

They have direct access to all these social media databases which Anonymous doesn't.

And so far, they're probably/hopefully, doing targeted investigations. The last thing we need is Anonymous to get so good at whack-a-mole that law enforcement just says "to hell with this" and starts data mining the entire database.

Re:So you prefer them to data mine the whole thing

[Anonymous Coward]

Your assumption that they are not already data mining the entire database is almost childish.

Cry Me A Fucking River

[Anonymous Coward]

It's not that they "can't do their job", it's that it's making it harder than it could be.

Cry me a fucking river. How did they manage or fail to do their job before the advent of Twitter and Facebook. The use of social media for intelligence purposes - intelligence in social media being a hilarious oxymoron in itself - is a whole new level of laziness in intelligence services.

'Whah! We don't want to expend any effort in doing our job. We only want to sit behind our desks, munching donuts and collection insane amounts of money with zero oversight. You must subject yourself to easy continuous monitoring, eliminate encryption without back doors, and accept everything we tell you as gospel. If you don't, you're helping terrorists."

FOAD

Re:Cry Me A Fucking River

[oobayly]

Sigh. Like I said "it's making it harder than it could be", ie. Monitoring these accounts may have made everything easier, so if they lose that avenue their job goes back to what it was like in the past.

I don't disagree that a huge amount of this is security theatre - I find the UK's new security bill obscene, and increasing the size of the haystack when trying to find a needle is stupid. But if you've found an individual of interest, you'd be fool to ignore every avenue of investigation.

The fact that the police managed to track so many people down so quickly implies that the Paris terrorists were lax with the comms, so once the police identified them, it was easy to track others down. Or, the police knew about them, but whilst waiting to see who else they were lead to, the attacks to place.

Neither explanation is good for the authorities. The former shows that wholescale monitoring doesn't work. The latter shows that they monumentally fucked up.

Re:Cry Me A Fucking River

[Anonymous Coward]

You're arguing with the logic of a wannabe terrorist. You're saying, essentially, that intelligence services are worthless because they want to use methods to make data collection and surveillance easier with as little work as possible. That's called efficiency, not incompetence. Someone living in a third world nation in love with the smell of his own body odor might not really understand the difference, so if you're one of them, I forgive you. But learn about civilization.

Re:Cry Me A Fucking River

[Anonymous Coward]

"it's making it harder than it could be"

Says you, some random on the internet. This post is hilarious in that it links to a bunch of shitty tabloids, which are hardly known for presenting fact based evidence to support their claims. Lucky we have you to come along and corroborate their bullshit.

Idiot.

Re:Maybe if Slashdot read this..

[Applehu Akbar]

"The problem with slashdot is that most of its users were bullied and stuffed into lockers as kids!"

Actually this is our key advantage.

Re:Maybe if Slashdot read this..

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, just saying the wrong word in the right hormone day is pretty sufficient to make a girl cry... no intended violence or rudeness necessary.

Really, Anon?

[excelondevelopment]

So the powerful hacktivist collective anonymous's most powerful thing is rickrolling, which for all we know could be done by hand. Seriously. I was hoping for some active hacking. Classic cavalry manuevers which can be done in cyber - get behind enemy lines and interdict supply, etc. These days that would be intercept email accounts, change the passwords, take down websites, etc. I suppose this move is, in a small way, doing some of that, but it seems like the brute forciest to the lamest of supporters .. Then again perhaps these guys are smart. Actual interfering could get them on watch lists and enemy lists, etc. hmm. I'll have to think on this.

Re:Really, Anon?

[Anonymous Coward]

Try thinking a little harder.

Re:Really, Anon?

[BarbaraHudson]

Brute force attacks work when you don't have any other working solution.

Re:Anonymous is for cows.

[Killall -9 Bash]

I miss GNAA.

Yes, you can only trust the State

[Anonymous Coward]

Statism at its finest. You know, Blackstone could go through the middle east and have the ISIS problem licked in no time, but that would be horrible because it wouldn't be government doing it.

When your troops aren't allowed to shoot bad guys, or even carry bullets, how can you expect to do anything effectively?

Anonymous on my side vs the police state, Hmmm...

[BubbaDave]

At least Anonymous does not have a vested interest in perpetuating the conflict forever as a means of state control.

I just imagined...

[SharpFang]

A large room in the NSA building, filled with serious men in dark suits sitting in front of hundreds of computers.

Every few minutes "Never gonna give you up" is heard from a random place in the room.

Re:I just imagined...

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, maybe the complaints stem from their annoyance at constantly being rickrolled...

Filtering out is so very difficult!

[140Mandak262Jamuna]

When Anonymous or someone else floods a hash tag with thousands of identical links to the same video, the cpu resources to collect all the postings, filter the spam out, track the original posts and follow ups would require humongous CPU resources and server farms. So it is going to hamper our spooks' ability to ... wait .. oh oh!

Re:Filtering out is so very difficult!

[Anonymous Coward]

I hope they don't let us down.

pretty sure america funding isis

[Idimmu Xul]

in order to destabilize syria has beeb a bigger problem for counter terrorism!

Competition

[tompaulco]

Anonymous hates ISIS. They don't like the competition.

Metro UK

[Anonymous Coward]

Is a thin little free paper handed out in the tube(subway). Lots of cat pictures and fluff pieces. It's a stretch to call it a newspaper and appalling that it is cited as a source on Slashdot.

Re:Metro UK

[Zontar The Mindless]

Okay, here's the BBC's version, then. Enjoy.

(We have the Metro in Stockholm as well. Same thing, only in Swedish, with yesterday's Swedish news and lots of ads.)

Good

[Anonymous Coward]

Since intelligence sitting there and watching doesn't really do any of us much good (how many teams did they have watching in the years running up to 9/11?), I'd much rather depend on Anonymous to make recruiting efforts endlessly frustrating.

Your reply is bad and you should feel bad

[Anonymous Coward]

How is this voted insightful, holy living fuck Slashdot you've gone down the toilet. Intelligence agencies foil terrorist plots all the time, but guess what mr insightful: they don't talk about it! Do you know why? Because that would harm existing operations! The terrorists only need to succeed once, whereas the people you are bemoaning as incompetent have to succeed all the time. I get that you probably want to sound your horn on important topics to give the impression that there's a lick of intelligence inside you, but the mods upvoting this rubbish? For shame!

Re:Your reply is bad and you should feel bad

[crow_t_robot]

Wrong.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com...

Re:Your reply is bad and you should feel bad

[Anonymous Coward]

Intelligence agencies foil terrorist plots all the time, but guess what mr insightful: they don't talk about it! Do you know why? Because that would harm existing operations!

Two things. One, 99% of the time they don't have to give specifics and people would still believe them, so it's not like the action of blowing their own horn would endanger existing operations. Two, The NSA's Big Terrorism Claim Doesn't Hold Up, which conveniently happened after Snowden. Ie, even if you don't believe one, then they're perfectly willing to "harm existing operations" for their own political ends.

The terrorists only need to succeed once, whereas the people you are bemoaning as incompetent have to succeed all the time.

Clearly you're wrong. The NSA, CIA, etc have failed repeatedly. They clearly don't "have to" succeed "all the time". It's enough that people, like you, act as if they're succeeding enough and others, maybe you too, pretending that "if only we had more privacy invasion tools" that the numbers would go up. How about we be more honest: terrorism as a tool only works if one is terrorized, which means the NSA, et al calling for more powers to "protect" people is playing right into the terrorists' hands. The correct response, to morn the loss of the people killed and to continue business as usual, is to accept that terrorist will kill people and yet we can live in freedom 99.99% of the time without trying to cripple ourselves in the name of "foil[ling] terrorist plots all the time"--which is less likely but still possible if we simply went back to pre-9/11 standards.

I get that you probably want to sound your horn on important topics to give the impression that there's a lick of intelligence inside you, but the mods upvoting this rubbish? For shame!

Clearly there's plenty of intelligence in the intelligence agencies. They fail, ask for more invading techniques that likely won't help, and will fail again. If we don't even hold them responsible for when they fail, then why are we beginning to grant them their invading techniques? That's the real "for shame" of it.

Re:Your reply is bad and you should feel bad

[Coren22]

It depends on your definition of not stop. It contributed to stopping numerous plots. It wasn't however the only thing used to stop those plots. Or did you not read the report and instead used a news media you know is biased?

When you say, "how many plots were stopped by the metadata program SOLELY", you are going to get a different number than the number of plots stopped by a combination of methods. This difference in language is what the Washington's Blog is exploiting there. Read the actual statements, they don't say what is being claimed here.

But you will just call me a shill, and not even bother to read the information, as you have already made up your mind.

Re:Your reply is bad and you should feel bad

[Qzukk]

Because that would harm existing operations!

Yeah! Terrorists aren't like Marvin the Martian wondering where the America-shattering kaboom they were expecting is, no, they assume that if they didn't hear about the explosion it's because Allah made all the idiots in America not notice the explosion. Imagine the harm if they realized that all the times their shit didn't blow up it was because the government stopped them!

Re:Your reply is bad and you should feel bad

[matfud]

The Wrath of APK

After all this time I would have thought that he may have aged a bit, perhaps realised that s/he is being a total dick and stopped the bots replying. Yeh everyone can do that. Do you know why people do not?

Re:Your reply is bad and you should feel bad

[matfud]

Well it did sort of tie in to the the subject of this story.

Re:Maybe if Slashdot read this..

[tinkerton]

Sheesh, the article is right. Rick Astley does drown out intelligence.

If you are serious about killing off ISIS

[fustakrakich]

Tell the damn government to quit giving them money and selling them the fucking weapons! This Anonymous crap is a bullshit charade to divert attention away from the people who are actually sustaining them in the fight against Russia.

Re:If you are serious about killing off ISIS

[Anonymous Coward]

Well, obviously the moderators are NOT interested in addressing the real issue. Playing charades or Pictionary is the preferred method of battle. Well, this is why ISIS can exist at all.

Re:If you are serious about killing off ISIS

[labnet]

Not sure why you were modded oblivion, when it is clear to anyone who bothers to look below the surface, that Saudi Arabia and the USA have been funding and training the ASad opposition, which includes ISIS for at least the past 5 years.

Re:If you are serious about killing off ISIS

[fustakrakich]

Nobody wants to acknowledge any of that. It doesn't fit in their fanatical narrative and rhetoric. This business is too big to fail.

Stay out of the deep end

[ITRambo]

If they can't blow ISIS' computers up then Anonymous should play in the kiddie pool.

Re:Anonymous is for cows.

[deviated_prevert]

I miss GNAA.

I miss BSD it must be dead! But who can forget the loveliness of BSD But that was when slashdot actually was interesting.

Laugh...

[koan]

"the article also indicates that professional security agencies have seen sources they monitor shut down. "

And why would that be a problem? "Security agencies" don't seem to be aware, able, or willing to stop attacks.

France has now passed more laws using the Paris attack as an excuse, and they got it done quickly (like faster than the PATRIOT act).

Ponder that then read this.
https://theintercept.com/2015/...

And that's not the only example of FBI manufactured "terrorist".

*shrug*

[koan]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites...

I must be so surreal being Rick Astley

[Anonymous Coward]

"Another week. Let's see what my song is up to. Oh, it is going off to attack religious extremists. How about that. I wonder what it will do next week."

should have use goatse instead

[dillee1]

Those ISIS hate gay. Shouldn't goatse be more effective in trolling them?

Double links

[Anonymous Coward]

What's the point of linking to the same story in two separate parts of the post? "Not all are praising Anonymous methods" and "Rick Astley drowns out intelligence as well as recruitment". Saying something twice doesn't make it true.

People in glass houses

[kheldan]

Our right to privacy has been greatly infringed upon, but if you want to complain about that, put the blame in the right place: it's out elected officials who are behind allowing that to happen, along with sheep-like citizens who allowed it to happen, in spite of warnings from good people like you and I who warned them long and loud that once the mass-surveillance genie was out of the bottle, it would be hard if not impossible to put back in -- or are you one of those people who gave in to fear and allowed it to halt your higher cognitive processes, and let the bloody buggers start turning the whole country into one big prison state?

make JIHAD lamer than an iPod

[Anonymous Coward]

PHEH!
Anonymous ruined 4Chan, they are certainly capable of ruining ISIS too.

They were competent in execution before?

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, were they doing something competently prior to this?

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #1/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? Show us (not illogic logic but where I literally said it). I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there in my security guide.

Fact: You shoot your mouth off lying about it & me, hmmm?

(It's your mentally damaged goods assburgers brain acting up trying to put words in my mouth I never said? Yes...)

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Where did I say I don't use DNS too?

Clue: I do & detailed it for you AGAIN (via my std. post on DNS vs. hosts) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

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"You must really suck at programming" - by Coren22 on Monday November 23, 2015

What've you programmed? Other /.'ers disagree:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in 2/6... apk

Thinking beyond the short game to the long play...

[jlaprise1]

While this is undoubtedly harming some existing intelligence gathering operations, it's probably more useful in providing other information such as how does ISIS's network react when attacked by another network actor. Think of Anonymous as the hounds chasing ISIS for the the intel community. Watching ISIS's online behaviour under attack is probably very useful.

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #2/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

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"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

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"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

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"90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts + RECOMMENDS my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #4/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"His newest post is trying to refute that MiTM attack opportunity his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I DISPROVED it: Hardcoded favs users provide themselves are REVERSE DNS verified & my program filters 5,500++ false positives:

1.) Search engines
2.) Antivirus (e.g. updaters)
3.) Security community sites
4.) Captchas, brower home pages + download pages
5.) Ebay/Amazon (shopper & banking)

(Security community I get hosts data from do false positives filters in current data + removal lists).

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"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source (someone might steal it!)" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My ware went thru code verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

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YOU BLEW IT ON ADMIN PRIV TOO: My program doesn't require it hosts does (WFP/SFP): my program protects hosts beyond it!

I.E.-> I run manually minus admin priv & drag result to hosts naming it "hosts" overwriting original.

Only auto update needs it (WFP/SFP) & users set it themselves in program shortcut: Not programmatic impersonation.

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DNS introduces a SECURITY ISSUE RIDDLED SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE & doesn't secure down to endpoints on a LAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

How I use remote filtering DNS combined w/ hosts is there showing many DNS security issues hosts overcome.

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #5/6... apk

Rick Astley?

[PPH]

Why not play Moonlight Sonata? The intelligence is just about as effective as it was for Coventry.

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #5/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

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"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

No hosts do (WFP/SFP) - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

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"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

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"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it via process monitor + wireshark (don't need code)!

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"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I put hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - spotted easily & bulk of hosts = sorted blocked known bad threats provided by the security community (filtered vs. 5,500++ false positive possibles in my program & by current security community data).

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"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Hasn't happened!

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"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

It works there!

Telemetry's killed 10 by itself: VISTA = Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #6/6... apk

You Would Love The Odor Of Deez Nutz

[Anonymous Coward]

You're arguing with the logic of a wannabe terrorist. You're saying, essentially, that intelligence services are worthless because they want to use methods to make data collection and surveillance easier with as little work as possible. That's called efficiency, not incompetence. Someone living in a third world nation in love with the smell of his own body odor might not really understand the difference, so if you're one of them, I forgive you. But learn about civilization.

You would love the odor of deez nutz, I guarantee it. But, none for you!

Re:Maybe if Slashdot read this..

[Coren22]

Heck, you don't even have to say anything. Women just cry randomly for no reason at all.

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

"introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

How? My prog puts entries in as non-blocking to hostnames on ones users give it as favs to speed up @ TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

(For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out!

(Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

+ my sources do removal lists vs. false positives & helped me create a "FP" filter in my program (5,500++ of them)!

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"maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods: "Eat your words" (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://science.slashdot.org/co...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt - Did it to yourself.

APK

P.S.=> You fail Coren22... apk

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Coren22]

All this attention, you are going to make me blush. Perhaps if you put this much effort into the opposite sex you wouldn't be living in your mom's basement with no dating prospects.

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Coren22]

Thanks for scratching that OCD itch. It was bugging me that this one was sitting at 4, then 5, until it finally hit 6. It just bugs me when you post 4/6 then take forever to post the other two.

So, when are you going to stop posting 6 posts at a time showing all your technical incompetence and inability to understand basic English / basic computer concepts?

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 from what I read in your greatest hits fails lists by apk you're the one with an abnormal assburgers autism brain.

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Coren22]

And, APK, I have read that you very likely have Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Your point? I willingly admitted that I have mild Autism, you still persist in denying that there is anything wrong with you, despite the obvious evidence.

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Motherfucking Shit]

If he put this much effort into the opposite sex, he'd be in prison for aggravated stalking.

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Coren22]

You do have a point.

Maybe we should introduce him to some women, I can only see the outcome being better for all of Slashdot.

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Good old APK, still living his delusion of adequacy, the good thing is his terrible posting style means I can scroll past his drivel with ease.

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

You realise you are the epic fail here don't you APK, you lost every debate you claim to have won, a fact reinforced by your need to repeatedly harass and stalk Coren22. This spamming shit just makes you look like a psychotic moron.
We all know your so called hosts file is malware, and useless for purpose.
You lost and you will never win pinhead.

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 you're unable to validly technically prove apk wrong and there's no denying you failed badly lying/libeling caught in it too.

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[dave420]

Do you see anyone else on Slashdot posting such childish, petty nonsense? No? That should tell you something.

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[dave420]

NURSE! He's out of bed again!

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Coren22]

by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 23, 2015 @03:25PM

Do you have reading comprehension problems? I didn't post that. I wasn't even near a computer at the time, I was in my car driving.

Re:Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[matfud]

Good for /.
worse for the women though. I don't even know what you are suggesting that they put up with ;(

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #1/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? Show us (not illogic logic but where I literally said it). I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there in my security guide.

Fact: You shoot your mouth off lying about it & me, hmmm?

(It's your mentally damaged goods assburgers brain acting up trying to put words in my mouth I never said? Yes...)

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Where did I say I don't use DNS too?

Clue: I do & detailed it for you AGAIN (via my std. post on DNS vs. hosts) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

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"You must really suck at programming" - by Coren22 on Monday November 23, 2015

What've you programmed? Other /.'ers disagree:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in 2/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #2/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

---

"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

---

"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

---

"90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts + RECOMMENDS my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #3/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

---

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

(& he certified my source http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - he wouldn't host it, much less recommend it, minus that...) /.'ers say my work is good too:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #4/6... apk

Action is the real measure of intelligence

[Anonymous Coward]

"Action is the real measure of intelligence" according to Napoleon Hill. The US did 1000s of bombing missions per day when attacking Saddam. Now they do a half-dozen. They obviously aren't serious about attacking ISIS or stopping its recruiting on social media. Somebody needs to be.

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #4/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"His newest post is trying to refute that MiTM attack opportunity his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I DISPROVED it: Hardcoded favs users provide themselves are REVERSE DNS verified & my program filters 5,500++ false positives:

1.) Search engines
2.) Antivirus (e.g. updaters)
3.) Security community sites
4.) Captchas, brower home pages + download pages
5.) Ebay/Amazon (shopper & banking)

(Security community I get hosts data from do false positives filters in current data + removal lists).

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source (someone might steal it!)" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My ware went thru code verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

---

YOU BLEW IT ON ADMIN PRIV TOO: My program doesn't require it hosts does (WFP/SFP): my program protects hosts beyond it!

I.E.-> I run manually minus admin priv & drag result to hosts naming it "hosts" overwriting original.

Only auto update needs it (WFP/SFP) & users set it themselves in program shortcut: Not programmatic impersonation.

---

DNS introduces a SECURITY ISSUE RIDDLED SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE & doesn't secure down to endpoints on a LAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

How I use remote filtering DNS combined w/ hosts is there showing many DNS security issues hosts overcome.

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #5/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #5/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

---

"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

No hosts do (WFP/SFP) - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

---

"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it via process monitor + wireshark (don't need code)!

---

"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I put hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - spotted easily & bulk of hosts = sorted blocked known bad threats provided by the security community (filtered vs. 5,500++ false positive possibles in my program & by current security community data).

---

"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Hasn't happened!

---

"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

It works there!

Telemetry's killed 10 by itself: VISTA = Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #6/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

"introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

How? My prog puts entries in as non-blocking to hostnames on ones users give it as favs to speed up @ TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

(For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out!

(Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

+ my sources do removal lists vs. false positives & helped me create a "FP" filter in my program (5,500++ of them)!

---

"maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods: "Eat your words" (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://science.slashdot.org/co...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt - Did it to yourself.

APK

P.S.=> You fail Coren22... apk

So how well did the lack of Rick Astley help?

[Anonymous Coward]

It seems like they could do NOTHING without Rick Astley clogging up the system, they 100% missed it entirely, despite having had explicit warning to go look.

So I think this is ACTUALLY an attempt to stop anything USEFUL stopping the problem so that they can continue to claim they need "more power".

If they don't talk about it, how do you know?

[Anonymous Coward]

And we have the evidence of the claims of "DNA evidence convicted X,000 criminals" when in actual fact, the DNA evidence wasn't even necessary, the non-DNA evidence was sufficient to convict to show how they will MAKE UP how they "foiled" a terrorist attack with their "new and improved powers", and then still go "But we would have stopped more if you'd given up even more of your laws!".

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #1/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? Show us (not illogic logic but where I literally said it). I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there in my security guide.

Fact: You shoot your mouth off lying about it & me, hmmm?

(It's your mentally damaged goods assburgers brain acting up trying to put words in my mouth I never said? Yes...)

---

Where did I say I don't use DNS too?

Clue: I do & detailed it for you AGAIN (via my std. post on DNS vs. hosts) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

---

"You must really suck at programming" - by Coren22 on Monday November 23, 2015

What've you programmed? Other /.'ers disagree:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in 2/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #2/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

---

"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

---

"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

---

"90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts + RECOMMENDS my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #3/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

---

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

(& he certified my source http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - he wouldn't host it, much less recommend it, minus that...) /.'ers say my work is good too:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #4/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #4/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"His newest post is trying to refute that MiTM attack opportunity his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I DISPROVED it: Hardcoded favs users provide themselves are REVERSE DNS verified & my program filters 5,500++ false positives:

1.) Search engines
2.) Antivirus (e.g. updaters)
3.) Security community sites
4.) Captchas, brower home pages + download pages
5.) Ebay/Amazon (shopper & banking)

(Security community I get hosts data from do false positives filters in current data + removal lists).

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source (someone might steal it!)" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My ware went thru code verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

---

YOU BLEW IT ON ADMIN PRIV TOO: My program doesn't require it hosts does (WFP/SFP): my program protects hosts beyond it!

I.E.-> I run manually minus admin priv & drag result to hosts naming it "hosts" overwriting original.

Only auto update needs it (WFP/SFP) & users set it themselves in program shortcut: Not programmatic impersonation.

---

DNS introduces a SECURITY ISSUE RIDDLED SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE & doesn't secure down to endpoints on a LAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

How I use remote filtering DNS combined w/ hosts is there showing many DNS security issues hosts overcome.

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #5/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #5/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

---

"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

No hosts do (WFP/SFP) - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

---

"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it via process monitor + wireshark (don't need code)!

---

"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I put hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - spotted easily & bulk of hosts = sorted blocked known bad threats provided by the security community (filtered vs. 5,500++ false positive possibles in my program & by current security community data).

---

"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Hasn't happened!

---

"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

It works there!

Telemetry's killed 10 by itself: VISTA = Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #6/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

"introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

How? My prog puts entries in as non-blocking to hostnames on ones users give it as favs to speed up @ TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

(For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out!

(Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

+ my sources do removal lists vs. false positives & helped me create a "FP" filter in my program (5,500++ of them)!

---

"maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods: "Eat your words" (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://science.slashdot.org/co...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt - Did it to yourself.

APK

P.S.=> You fail Coren22... apk

Coren22: "SiDeWaLk-ShRiNk of /.", lol

[Anonymous Coward]

Do you have a diagnoses of my alleged mental state a given by licensed degreed psychiatric pros in a formal psychiatric environs? No.

* You FAIL again, Coren22... libeling me isn't helping your case!

APK

P.S.=> Of course, you've already lost all credibility LONG AGO vs. my "Coren22's 'greatest hits fails list'" that you replied to unable to prove my points wrong that show your NUMEROUS FAILS, lies, & further libel of myself... lol!

... apk

Re:Coren22: "SiDeWaLk-ShRiNk of /.", lol

[Coren22]

It is only libel if it isn't true, are you ready to submit to a psychiatric evaluation to prove you don't have NPD and OCD?

Also, just like you, I didn't claim it myself, I claimed I read it, which I did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

But, keep beating that dead horse, we can all tell what issues you have, they are apparent to all those who aren't APK.

No need for me to respond yet again to your Greatest hits fails, I already did repeatedly, and even just recently, you just don't believe you can ever be wrong, so you ignore all contrary evidence.

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #1/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? Show us (not illogic logic but where I literally said it). I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there in my security guide.

Fact: You shoot your mouth off lying about it & me, hmmm?

(It's your mentally damaged goods assburgers brain acting up trying to put words in my mouth I never said? Yes...)

---

Where did I say I don't use DNS too?

Clue: I do & detailed it for you AGAIN (via my std. post on DNS vs. hosts) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

---

"You must really suck at programming" - by Coren22 on Monday November 23, 2015

What've you programmed? Other /.'ers disagree:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in 2/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #2/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

---

"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

---

"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

---

"90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts + RECOMMENDS my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #3/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

---

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

(& he certified my source http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - he wouldn't host it, much less recommend it, minus that...) /.'ers say my work is good too:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #4/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #4/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"His newest post is trying to refute that MiTM attack opportunity his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I DISPROVED it: Hardcoded favs users provide themselves are REVERSE DNS verified & my program filters 5,500++ false positives:

1.) Search engines
2.) Antivirus (e.g. updaters)
3.) Security community sites
4.) Captchas, brower home pages + download pages
5.) Ebay/Amazon (shopper & banking)

(Security community I get hosts data from do false positives filters in current data + removal lists).

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source (someone might steal it!)" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My ware went thru code verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

---

YOU BLEW IT ON ADMIN PRIV TOO: My program doesn't require it hosts does (WFP/SFP): my program protects hosts beyond it!

I.E.-> I run manually minus admin priv & drag result to hosts naming it "hosts" overwriting original.

Only auto update needs it (WFP/SFP) & users set it themselves in program shortcut: Not programmatic impersonation.

---

DNS introduces a SECURITY ISSUE RIDDLED SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE & doesn't secure down to endpoints on a LAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

How I use remote filtering DNS combined w/ hosts is there showing many DNS security issues hosts overcome.

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #5/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #5/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

---

"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

No hosts do (WFP/SFP) - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

---

"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it via process monitor + wireshark (don't need code)!

---

"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I put hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - spotted easily & bulk of hosts = sorted blocked known bad threats provided by the security community (filtered vs. 5,500++ false positive possibles in my program & by current security community data).

---

"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Hasn't happened!

---

"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

It works there!

Telemetry's killed 10 by itself: VISTA = Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #6/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

"introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

How? My prog puts entries in as non-blocking to hostnames on ones users give it as favs to speed up @ TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

(For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out!

(Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

+ my sources do removal lists vs. false positives & helped me create a "FP" filter in my program (5,500++ of them)!

---

"maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods: "Eat your words" (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://science.slashdot.org/co...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt - Did it to yourself.

APK

P.S.=> You fail Coren22... apk

It's not true, you're lying & libeling me... a

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: My mental health's good. No need to submit to anything @ the demand of a mental abnormal in you...

APK

P.S.=> I notice you can't say anything vs. your fuckups lists I put up - the 'great MCSE' Coren22 (allegedly, I think it's bullshit from you based on your massive fuckups) is struck speechless... lol!

... apk

WW2 shows trivial conversations valuable ...

[drnb]

2) If intelligence agencies are watching Twitter accounts for covert intelligence, that is idiotic.

They are not looking to twitter from planning info. What twitter may be good for is establishing links between sympathizers. Several ISIS members or ISIS inspired people exposed themselves through the Paris attack. Who in the last several years ever offered them any sympathetic or encouraging words? That might be a person to look into post attack. Its things like this that can help develop a picture of a network. The FBI did this with organized crime, they noted all phone calls a known member of organized crime made, the other party went into the node. After years of data collection some fairly innocent looking people were found to have meaningful low profile roles in organized crime. It helped in dismantling the organization, really damaged their operations and logistics. Finding someone who quietly helps launder money may be more valuable than finding a shooter.

Or look at the British Ultra project of WW2, decryption of enigma machine based messages. Great value did not come exclusively from the German high command sending an order to a general in the field or the command of a u-boat pack at sea. Valuable intelligence was discovered by collecting, organizing and indexing lots and lots of small unimportant things. When a bunch of things that are small and unimportant can be combined into a mosaic something much larger and more important can come to light. This is how intelligence actually works, its not like TV and movies, its rather dull and boring.

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #1/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? Show us (not illogic logic but where I literally said it). I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there in my security guide.

Fact: You shoot your mouth off lying about it & me, hmmm?

(It's your mentally damaged goods assburgers brain acting up trying to put words in my mouth I never said? Yes...)

---

Where did I say I don't use DNS too?

Clue: I do & detailed it for you AGAIN (via my std. post on DNS vs. hosts) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

---

"You must really suck at programming" - by Coren22 on Monday November 23, 2015

What've you programmed? Other /.'ers disagree:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in 2/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #2/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

---

"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

---

"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

---

"90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts + RECOMMENDS my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/6... apk

History shows mundane boring info valuable ...

[drnb]

Ostensibly, not a single one of us in this discussion is an analyst or other operative for an intelligence organization, so as such all we're doing is 'armchair quarterbacking', and worse, 'Monday morning armchair quarterbacking' when it comes to this type of work. I'm not sticking up for these people, but I will say it's easy to criticize what they are (or are not) doing when you don't have any real-world idea what the work actually entails.

A better source of info than operatives and analysts are historians. Take a look at the British Ultra project of WW2 where the communications of Germany were monitored. History shows us that the most mundane, boring and seeming inconsequential info can actually be quite valuable. A huge part of Ultra was organizing and indexing such info so that "random" bits of "related" info could be combined to build a larger picture, a mosaic indicating what an enemy was thinking or doing.

We also have the FBI efforts against organized crime where they created a graph of anyone who had telephone contact with a known member of organized crime. Lots and lots of noise, even criminals have normal household and personal business to conduct, but it did identify previously unknown members of the organization who were functioning in very low key positions. Some low key but important in a logistics sense.

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #3/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

---

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

(& he certified my source http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - he wouldn't host it, much less recommend it, minus that...) /.'ers say my work is good too:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #4/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #4/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"His newest post is trying to refute that MiTM attack opportunity his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I DISPROVED it: Hardcoded favs users provide themselves are REVERSE DNS verified & my program filters 5,500++ false positives:

1.) Search engines
2.) Antivirus (e.g. updaters)
3.) Security community sites
4.) Captchas, brower home pages + download pages
5.) Ebay/Amazon (shopper & banking)

(Security community I get hosts data from do false positives filters in current data + removal lists).

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source (someone might steal it!)" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My ware went thru code verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

---

YOU BLEW IT ON ADMIN PRIV TOO: My program doesn't require it hosts does (WFP/SFP): my program protects hosts beyond it!

I.E.-> I run manually minus admin priv & drag result to hosts naming it "hosts" overwriting original.

Only auto update needs it (WFP/SFP) & users set it themselves in program shortcut: Not programmatic impersonation.

---

DNS introduces a SECURITY ISSUE RIDDLED SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE & doesn't secure down to endpoints on a LAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

How I use remote filtering DNS combined w/ hosts is there showing many DNS security issues hosts overcome.

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #5/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #5/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

---

"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

No hosts do (WFP/SFP) - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

---

"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it via process monitor + wireshark (don't need code)!

---

"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I put hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - spotted easily & bulk of hosts = sorted blocked known bad threats provided by the security community (filtered vs. 5,500++ false positive possibles in my program & by current security community data).

---

"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Hasn't happened!

---

"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

It works there!

Telemetry's killed 10 by itself: VISTA = Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #6/6... apk

Re:It's not true, you're lying & libeling me..

[Coren22]

Than you should stop with the claims of libel. Unless you are going to prosecute the claims, you are opening yourself up to a libel lawsuit of your own. Unless you are willing to prove that I am libeling you, I can sue you for libeling me.

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

"introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

How? My prog puts entries in as non-blocking to hostnames on ones users give it as favs to speed up @ TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

(For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out!

(Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

+ my sources do removal lists vs. false positives & helped me create a "FP" filter in my program (5,500++ of them)!

---

"maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods: "Eat your words" (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://science.slashdot.org/co...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt - Did it to yourself.

APK

P.S.=> You fail Coren22... apk

You're real name's Coren22?

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Hahahahaha, "right" - Give up stupid: Notice you're speechless vs. your fails lists I posted? You failed on that too!

APK

P.S.=> You're digging your ditch deeper & embarassing yourself first doing MULTIPLE MASSIVE tech fails + lies about me (your childish signatures about me do the rest) THEN playing "SiDeWaLk-ShRiNk of /." & "Jailhouse Lawyer" now too, stupid... apk

Re:You're real name's Coren22?

[dave420]

You are real name is...

Hardly the writing of a sound mind...

Re:You're real name's Coren22?

[Coren22]

You call this speechlessness?

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

You just have yet to actually come up with anything I haven't already responded to repeatedly.

SLASHDOT SUCKS

[Anonymous Coward]

So the "Intelligence" agencies (who I wouldn't trust to find my car in the parking lot after a pub crawl) think monitoring everyone is better than stymieing terrorists - why am I not surprised? Fuck the TLAs, fuck "the man", fuck the American royalty, fuck the world. I read a book awhile ago ("Inferno", by Dan Brown), where the "villian" was working on a plot to sterilize about 95% of the world's population. I say he was the hero, and I'm glad [SPOILER}

Paid tax to become a 2nd class citizen

[drnb]

... didn't call for killing non-Muslims, but rather treat them with respect and even protect their rights. You could convert, OR you submit to rule by a Muslim state. Submitting to rule of the state sounds bad to our modern secular selves, but back then it was a very progressive form of religious tolerance from a non-secular government ...

Actually the non-Muslims were treated as second class citizens, many of the rights of Muslim citizens were denied them, in judicial matters things were stacked against them, etc. And they had to pay an extra tax in order to be treated so. And it was not unheard of to be publicly humiliated for hours as part of the process by which one paid the tax.

The more civilized treatment of non-Muslims was somewhat correlated to the number of non-Muslims in the region, to the possibility of insurgency and rebellion. In North Africa and the Middle East, not so good. In India, much better at times.

Re:Paid tax to become a 2nd class citizen

[drnb]

... didn't call for killing non-Muslims, but rather treat them with respect and even protect their rights. You could convert, OR you submit to rule by a Muslim state. Submitting to rule of the state sounds bad to our modern secular selves, but back then it was a very progressive form of religious tolerance from a non-secular government ...

Actually the non-Muslims were treated as second class citizens, many of the rights of Muslim citizens were denied them, in judicial matters things were stacked against them, etc. And they had to pay an extra tax in order to be treated so. And it was not unheard of to be publicly humiliated for hours as part of the process by which one paid the tax. The more civilized treatment of non-Muslims was somewhat correlated to the number of non-Muslims in the region, to the possibility of insurgency and rebellion. In North Africa and the Middle East, not so good. In India, much better at times.

I forgot to mention that paying the tax for 2nd class status was generally only an option to Jews and Christians. People that shared the same monotheistic God as Muslims, the God of the Old Testament, "people of the book". People that were at one time on the right track but had fallen one or two prophets behind. Religions unrelated to Islam, pagans, generally not eligible for anything other than slavery.

Back to India, I forgot to mention that some tolerance was motivated by commercial interests, not just rebellion. Members of the faith have to make a living too, so commercial necessities also worked to moderate things. Islamic scholars in India went through some elaborate mental gymnastics to argue that locals were "people of the book" too and not pagans. Scholars in north africa and the middle east did not generally accept these arguments, kinda old school about that old testament.

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #1/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? Show us (not illogic logic but where I literally said it). I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there in my security guide.

Fact: You shoot your mouth off lying about it & me, hmmm?

(It's your mentally damaged goods assburgers brain acting up trying to put words in my mouth I never said? Yes...)

---

Where did I say I don't use DNS too?

Clue: I do & detailed it for you AGAIN (via my std. post on DNS vs. hosts) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

---

"You must really suck at programming" - by Coren22 on Monday November 23, 2015

What've you programmed? Other /.'ers disagree:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in 2/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #2/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

---

"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

---

"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

---

"90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts + RECOMMENDS my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #3/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

---

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

(& he certified my source http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - he wouldn't host it, much less recommend it, minus that...) /.'ers say my work is good too:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #4/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #4/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"His newest post is trying to refute that MiTM attack opportunity his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I DISPROVED it: Hardcoded favs users provide themselves are REVERSE DNS verified & my program filters 5,500++ false positives:

1.) Search engines
2.) Antivirus (e.g. updaters)
3.) Security community sites
4.) Captchas, brower home pages + download pages
5.) Ebay/Amazon (shopper & banking)

(Security community I get hosts data from do false positives filters in current data + removal lists).

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source (someone might steal it!)" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My ware went thru code verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

---

YOU BLEW IT ON ADMIN PRIV TOO: My program doesn't require it hosts does (WFP/SFP): my program protects hosts beyond it!

I.E.-> I run manually minus admin priv & drag result to hosts naming it "hosts" overwriting original.

Only auto update needs it (WFP/SFP) & users set it themselves in program shortcut: Not programmatic impersonation.

---

DNS introduces a SECURITY ISSUE RIDDLED SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE & doesn't secure down to endpoints on a LAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

How I use remote filtering DNS combined w/ hosts is there showing many DNS security issues hosts overcome.

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #5/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #5/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

---

"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

No hosts do (WFP/SFP) - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

---

"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it via process monitor + wireshark (don't need code)!

---

"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I put hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - spotted easily & bulk of hosts = sorted blocked known bad threats provided by the security community (filtered vs. 5,500++ false positive possibles in my program & by current security community data).

---

"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Hasn't happened!

---

"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

It works there!

Telemetry's killed 10 by itself: VISTA = Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #6/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

"introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

How? My prog puts entries in as non-blocking to hostnames on ones users give it as favs to speed up @ TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

(For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out!

(Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

+ my sources do removal lists vs. false positives & helped me create a "FP" filter in my program (5,500++ of them)!

---

"maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods: "Eat your words" (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://science.slashdot.org/co...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt - Did it to yourself.

APK

P.S.=> You fail Coren22... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #1/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? Show us (not illogic logic but where I literally said it). I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there in my security guide.

Fact: You shoot your mouth off lying about it & me, hmmm?

(It's your mentally damaged goods assburgers brain acting up trying to put words in my mouth I never said? Yes...)

---

Where did I say I don't use DNS too?

Clue: I do & detailed it for you AGAIN (via my std. post on DNS vs. hosts) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

---

"You must really suck at programming" - by Coren22 on Monday November 23, 2015

What've you programmed? Other /.'ers disagree:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in 2/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #2/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

---

"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

---

"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

---

"90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts + RECOMMENDS my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #3/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

---

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

(& he certified my source http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - he wouldn't host it, much less recommend it, minus that...) /.'ers say my work is good too:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #4/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #4/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"His newest post is trying to refute that MiTM attack opportunity his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I DISPROVED it: Hardcoded favs users provide themselves are REVERSE DNS verified & my program filters 5,500++ false positives:

1.) Search engines
2.) Antivirus (e.g. updaters)
3.) Security community sites
4.) Captchas, brower home pages + download pages
5.) Ebay/Amazon (shopper & banking)

(Security community I get hosts data from do false positives filters in current data + removal lists).

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source (someone might steal it!)" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My ware went thru code verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

---

YOU BLEW IT ON ADMIN PRIV TOO: My program doesn't require it hosts does (WFP/SFP): my program protects hosts beyond it!

I.E.-> I run manually minus admin priv & drag result to hosts naming it "hosts" overwriting original.

Only auto update needs it (WFP/SFP) & users set it themselves in program shortcut: Not programmatic impersonation.

---

DNS introduces a SECURITY ISSUE RIDDLED SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE & doesn't secure down to endpoints on a LAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

How I use remote filtering DNS combined w/ hosts is there showing many DNS security issues hosts overcome.

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #5/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #5/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

---

"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

No hosts do (WFP/SFP) - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

---

"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it via process monitor + wireshark (don't need code)!

---

"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I put hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - spotted easily & bulk of hosts = sorted blocked known bad threats provided by the security community (filtered vs. 5,500++ false positive possibles in my program & by current security community data).

---

"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Hasn't happened!

---

"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

It works there!

Telemetry's killed 10 by itself: VISTA = Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #6/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

"introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

How? My prog puts entries in as non-blocking to hostnames on ones users give it as favs to speed up @ TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

(For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out!

(Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

+ my sources do removal lists vs. false positives & helped me create a "FP" filter in my program (5,500++ of them)!

---

"maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods: "Eat your words" (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://science.slashdot.org/co...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt - Did it to yourself.

APK

P.S.=> You fail Coren22... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #1/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? Show us (not illogic logic but where I literally said it). I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there in my security guide.

Fact: You shoot your mouth off lying about it & me, hmmm?

(It's your mentally damaged goods assburgers brain acting up trying to put words in my mouth I never said? Yes...)

---

Where did I say I don't use DNS too?

Clue: I do & detailed it for you AGAIN (via my std. post on DNS vs. hosts) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

---

"You must really suck at programming" - by Coren22 on Monday November 23, 2015

What've you programmed? Other /.'ers disagree:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in 2/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #2/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

---

"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

---

"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

---

"90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts + RECOMMENDS my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #3/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

---

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

(& he certified my source http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - he wouldn't host it, much less recommend it, minus that...) /.'ers say my work is good too:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #4/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #4/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"His newest post is trying to refute that MiTM attack opportunity his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I DISPROVED it: Hardcoded favs users provide themselves are REVERSE DNS verified & my program filters 5,500++ false positives:

1.) Search engines
2.) Antivirus (e.g. updaters)
3.) Security community sites
4.) Captchas, brower home pages + download pages
5.) Ebay/Amazon (shopper & banking)

(Security community I get hosts data from do false positives filters in current data + removal lists).

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source (someone might steal it!)" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My ware went thru code verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

---

YOU BLEW IT ON ADMIN PRIV TOO: My program doesn't require it hosts does (WFP/SFP): my program protects hosts beyond it!

I.E.-> I run manually minus admin priv & drag result to hosts naming it "hosts" overwriting original.

Only auto update needs it (WFP/SFP) & users set it themselves in program shortcut: Not programmatic impersonation.

---

DNS introduces a SECURITY ISSUE RIDDLED SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE & doesn't secure down to endpoints on a LAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

How I use remote filtering DNS combined w/ hosts is there showing many DNS security issues hosts overcome.

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #5/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #5/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

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"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

No hosts do (WFP/SFP) - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

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"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

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"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it via process monitor + wireshark (don't need code)!

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"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I put hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - spotted easily & bulk of hosts = sorted blocked known bad threats provided by the security community (filtered vs. 5,500++ false positive possibles in my program & by current security community data).

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"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Hasn't happened!

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"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

It works there!

Telemetry's killed 10 by itself: VISTA = Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #6/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

"introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

How? My prog puts entries in as non-blocking to hostnames on ones users give it as favs to speed up @ TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

(For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out!

(Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

+ my sources do removal lists vs. false positives & helped me create a "FP" filter in my program (5,500++ of them)!

---

"maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods: "Eat your words" (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://science.slashdot.org/co...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt - Did it to yourself.

APK

P.S.=> You fail Coren22... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #1/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Apk doesn't think DNS servers are worth running & believes Microsoft Active Directory can run w/out DNS." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday October 27, 2015

Where'd I say it? Show us (not illogic logic but where I literally said it). I say AD needs internal DNS far back as 2007

http://forums.tweaktown.com/wi...

See "To warn users who have ActiveDirectory/AD LAN-WAN setups to NOT use external DNS servers" there in my security guide.

Fact: You shoot your mouth off lying about it & me, hmmm?

(It's your mentally damaged goods assburgers brain acting up trying to put words in my mouth I never said? Yes...)

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Where did I say I don't use DNS too?

Clue: I do & detailed it for you AGAIN (via my std. post on DNS vs. hosts) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

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"You must really suck at programming" - by Coren22 on Monday November 23, 2015

What've you programmed? Other /.'ers disagree:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in 2/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #2/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

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"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

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"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

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"90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts + RECOMMENDS my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #3/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"I guess we should avoid your crap, it looks like it is marked as malware." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Monday November 02, 2015 @03:52PM (#50850445)

62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

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MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

(& he certified my source http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - he wouldn't host it, much less recommend it, minus that...) /.'ers say my work is good too:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #4/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #4/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"His newest post is trying to refute that MiTM attack opportunity his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I DISPROVED it: Hardcoded favs users provide themselves are REVERSE DNS verified & my program filters 5,500++ false positives:

1.) Search engines
2.) Antivirus (e.g. updaters)
3.) Security community sites
4.) Captchas, brower home pages + download pages
5.) Ebay/Amazon (shopper & banking)

(Security community I get hosts data from do false positives filters in current data + removal lists).

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"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source (someone might steal it!)" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My ware went thru code verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

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YOU BLEW IT ON ADMIN PRIV TOO: My program doesn't require it hosts does (WFP/SFP): my program protects hosts beyond it!

I.E.-> I run manually minus admin priv & drag result to hosts naming it "hosts" overwriting original.

Only auto update needs it (WFP/SFP) & users set it themselves in program shortcut: Not programmatic impersonation.

---

DNS introduces a SECURITY ISSUE RIDDLED SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE & doesn't secure down to endpoints on a LAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

How I use remote filtering DNS combined w/ hosts is there showing many DNS security issues hosts overcome.

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #5/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #5/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

---

"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

No hosts do (WFP/SFP) - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

---

"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it via process monitor + wireshark (don't need code)!

---

"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I put hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - spotted easily & bulk of hosts = sorted blocked known bad threats provided by the security community (filtered vs. 5,500++ false positive possibles in my program & by current security community data).

---

"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Hasn't happened!

---

"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

It works there!

Telemetry's killed 10 by itself: VISTA = Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #6/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

"introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

How? My prog puts entries in as non-blocking to hostnames on ones users give it as favs to speed up @ TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

(For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out!

(Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

+ my sources do removal lists vs. false positives & helped me create a "FP" filter in my program (5,500++ of them)!

---

"maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods: "Eat your words" (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://science.slashdot.org/co...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt - Did it to yourself.

APK

P.S.=> You fail Coren22... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #2/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"figured out why privilege escalation's a bad thing?" - by Coren22 on Tuesday September 22, 2015

How else can I programmatically update hosts itself?

---

"it requires elevation to write hosts" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday September 23, 2015

Hypocrite later admits it!

Even MalwareBytes AntiMalware DEMANDS it or it can't do a job fully like many security tools!

---

"Needing admin privileges every time a program updates is poor design" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Mine doesn't to get new data to update hosts vs. threats. Only hosts itself updates need it vs. WFP/SFP. Users set it too. It's not programmatic impersonation.

---

"90's tech to fight modern war" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Ozymandias/Watchmen per a namesake:

"I resolved to apply antiquities teachings" (hosts) "to our world today & began my path to conquest - Conquest not of men but of the evils that beset them: Fossil Fuels (antispyware), Oil (antivir), Nuclear Power (addons) are like a drug & you gentlemen along w/ foreign interests are the pushers"

It works Aryeh Goretsky NOD32/ESET hosts = good security-> http://it.slashdot.org/comment...

Oliver Day (Symantec) too-> http://www.securityfocus.com/c...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts' Admin hosts + RECOMMENDS my APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ SR-2 32/64-bit-> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #3/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #4/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"His newest post is trying to refute that MiTM attack opportunity his software provides" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I DISPROVED it: Hardcoded favs users provide themselves are REVERSE DNS verified & my program filters 5,500++ false positives:

1.) Search engines
2.) Antivirus (e.g. updaters)
3.) Security community sites
4.) Captchas, brower home pages + download pages
5.) Ebay/Amazon (shopper & banking)

(Security community I get hosts data from do false positives filters in current data + removal lists).

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source (someone might steal it!)" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My ware went thru code verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

---

YOU BLEW IT ON ADMIN PRIV TOO: My program doesn't require it hosts does (WFP/SFP): my program protects hosts beyond it!

I.E.-> I run manually minus admin priv & drag result to hosts naming it "hosts" overwriting original.

Only auto update needs it (WFP/SFP) & users set it themselves in program shortcut: Not programmatic impersonation.

---

DNS introduces a SECURITY ISSUE RIDDLED SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE & doesn't secure down to endpoints on a LAN -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

How I use remote filtering DNS combined w/ hosts is there showing many DNS security issues hosts overcome.

APK

P.S.=> Con't in part #5/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #5/6

[Anonymous Coward]

"Virus scanners/Adblock software don't need admin priv to update" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Neither does my program. AV does to remove threats - Adblock addons = Vastly INFERIOR in abilities + efficiency vs. hosts as I proved & no one proved me wrong to date!

---

"your software does" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

No hosts do (WFP/SFP) - Intake update of new hosts data doesn't!

---

"won't reveal your source code" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't owe you it. I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"What's stopping you from pointing my bank's web site at your private server?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I don't keep a server. Security guru (not - you create no ware for security & your forensics skills = non-existent): Put it in a VM, trace it via process monitor + wireshark (don't need code)!

---

"the possibility of being caught, which would be pretty hard to catch w/ such a large hosts file, as no one can go through it manually." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

I put hardcoded fav sites @ top of hosts for speed & reliabilty - spotted easily & bulk of hosts = sorted blocked known bad threats provided by the security community (filtered vs. 5,500++ false positive possibles in my program & by current security community data).

---

"What are you going to do when Windows gets rid of the hosts file completely?" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

Hasn't happened!

---

"They have already taken steps to make it useless in Windows 10." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 10, 2015

It works there!

Telemetry's killed 10 by itself: VISTA = Win10 = Win8 = flops - who're you fooling other than yourself?

APK

P.S.=> Con't. in #6/6... apk

Coren22 = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" #6/6

[Anonymous Coward]

Coren22 'eats his words' vs. me 2x yet again:

"introduces risk you are relying on a 3rd party to update a hosts file potentially opening you up to MITM attacks" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

How? My prog puts entries in as non-blocking to hostnames on ones users give it as favs to speed up @ TOP of hosts REVERSE DNS VERIFIED!

(For more speed, & reliability + security - in RAM as 1st resolver queried = faster & more secure vs. remote DNS w/ all its security issues in Kaminsky flaw, DNSChanger malware IP stack settings, routers bushwhacked in DNS settings, rogue DNS, Open DNS servers abused by malware. It aids in reliability vs. redirects).

YOU'D SPOT IT INSTANTLY @ TOP OF CUSTOM HOSTS & can easily edit anything you want out!

(Rest = known bad sites from 10 reputable security community sites for blocking - the MAJORITY of what's in my hosts files!)

+ my sources do removal lists vs. false positives & helped me create a "FP" filter in my program (5,500++ of them)!

---

"maybe one day you can get a score 5 comment" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

See subject & ~ 12 +5 upmods: "Eat your words" (1st one: You tried using what I post there against me to FAIL):

+5 'modded up' posts by "yours truly" (11):

http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://science.slashdot.org/co...
http://tech.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://news.slashdot.org/comme...
http://hardware.slashdot.org/c...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...
http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

"You believe you are getting the better of me" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 17, 2015

YOU GOT THE BEST OF YOURSELF in fails & lies about me. Your immature signatures about me SCREAM you're butthurt - Did it to yourself.

APK

P.S.=> You fail Coren22... apk

Riiiiiiight...

[McFortner]

Because we all know that our counter-terrorism actions have been so effective against ISIS up to now.

Can't have it both ways

[Anonymous Coward]

Governments can choose to either complain about the "success" of ISIS's social media, or they get to complain about the public fighting social media war (and thereby supposedly harming intelligence).

They do not get to do both!

Never Gonna Blow You Up

[Anonymous Coward]

Never Gonna Burn You Down!

The bitchslapping of Dave420 #1/2... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"Everyone who does use HOSTS files (myself included) doesn't use your software" - by dave420 (699308) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @07:30AM (#50869743)

Some /.'ers made you "eat your words": They use my hosts file engine saying it's good vs. your bullshit:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

(LMAO... you FAIL as usual, again, vs. me!)

* What's that you said I have quoted from you above Dave420?

APK

P.S.=> Thanks for making me look good: You always say something I can put away with undeniable facts that prove you wrong... lol!

... apk

The bitchslapping of Dave420 #2/2... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"You have no supporters with accounts" - by dave420 (699308) on Monday November 23, 2015 @11:17AM (#50985793)

See subject & this quote of your words you must eat vs. me yet again:

Tepples does http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

aaaaaaargh! does http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

Trax3001BBS does http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

KGIII does http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

* So do all these /.'ers who use my program who think it's good:

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

APK

P.S.=> What's that you said Dave420? Outnumbered by 12++:1 for starters?? LMAO... apk

Coren22 "EAT YOUR WORDS" retard... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My code went thru verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

hpHosts Site Admin Mr. Steven Burn quoted:

"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe."

FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

(On my latest 9.0++ code engine above & from past versions -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

APK

P.S.=> So tell us, Coren22 - ARE YOU WRONG ON THAT? answer = Yes... lol!

... apk

Re:Coren22 "EAT YOUR WORDS" retard... apk

[Coren22]

Like anyone would steal your shit. I could write the same thing in a few lines of shell scripting. You aren't special, and your software doesn't do anything unique.

Coren22: EAT YOUR WORDS retard... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My code went thru verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

hpHosts Site Admin Mr. Steven Burn quoted:

"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe."

FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

(On my latest 9.0++ code engine above & from past versions -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

Bullshit: 62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

APK

P.S.=> Eat your words, scumbag... apk

Coren22: EAT YOUR WORDS retard... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My code went thru verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

hpHosts Site Admin Mr. Steven Burn quoted:

"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe."

FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

(On my latest 9.0++ code engine above & from past versions -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

Bullshit: 62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

APK

P.S.=> Eat your words, scumbag... apk

Coren22: EAT YOUR WORDS retard... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My code went thru verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

hpHosts Site Admin Mr. Steven Burn quoted:

"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe."

FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

(On my latest 9.0++ code engine above & from past versions -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

Bullshit: 62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

APK

P.S.=> Eat your words, scumbag... apk

Coren22: EAT YOUR WORDS retard... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My code went thru verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

hpHosts Site Admin Mr. Steven Burn quoted:

"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe."

FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

(On my latest 9.0++ code engine above & from past versions -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

Bullshit: 62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

APK

P.S.=> Eat your words, scumbag... apk

Coren22: EAT YOUR WORDS retard... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My code went thru verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

hpHosts Site Admin Mr. Steven Burn quoted:

"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe."

FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

(On my latest 9.0++ code engine above & from past versions -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

Bullshit: 62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

APK

P.S.=> Eat your words, scumbag... apk

Bwaaahahaha Coren22 "skrypt kiddie"... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"I could write the same thing in a few lines of shell scripting. You aren't special, and your software doesn't do anything unique" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @10:32AM (#50994201)

See subject: How'd "eating your words" AGAIN taste? You talk a lot, but produce ZERO (& nobody wants scripts today, they want GUI)...

* Special enough to have the BEST on the planet find my ware safe in code AND to host & recommend it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl...

HOW ABOUT YOU BIGMOUTH?

"Like anyone would steal your shit." - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @10:32AM (#50994201)

Then WHY do you & Fisted want to see my code so bad? "Ain't happenin'...", lol!

Actually, my code DOES do things that are unique - see below... lol!

APK

P.S.=> A few fools here have TRIED that & I schooled the HELL out of them (missing all sorts of things in their code I had to correct them on http://slashdot.org/comments.p... & STILL they couldn't do it http://slashdot.org/comments.p... , even in scripts where the code is written FOR YOU practically in execution of commands in program already written http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - whereas by way of comparison, my code is written in the very functions those programs use BY HAND stupid - atomic string functions & all etc.)... apk

Re:Bwaaahahaha Coren22 "skrypt kiddie"... apk

[Coren22]

(& nobody wants scripts today, they want GUI)...

Is that why you created a GUI version of copy, delete, and other command line tools?

Because a GUI is needed for updating a hosts file?

You really have a high opinion of yourself.

* Special enough to have the BEST on the planet find my ware safe in code AND to host & recommend it ->

So, now he is the best on the planet? Wow, your opinion of him keeps going up huh? Is he your boyfriend?

Then WHY do you & Fisted want to see my code so bad? "Ain't happenin'...", lol!

Perhaps because we don't want to take your or your boyfriend's word for it about the security of your product?

whereas by way of comparison, my code is written in the very functions those programs use BY HAND stupid - atomic string functions & all etc.)... ap

OMG, you wrote the code by hand! WoW, aren't you remarkable. Does your mom tell you how great you are when she brings you your hot pockets?

OH MY GOD, you use ATOMIC STRINGS! WoW!!! you must be so special!

Yeah..get over yourself.

Re:Bwaaahahaha Coren22 "skrypt kiddie"... apk

[Coren22]

Oh, and calling my a script kiddie, dispite your misspellings, just makes you look like an absolute moron. A script kiddie is someone who doesn't know how to create the script, but just uses it without the underlying knowledge.

This is how you should do your host file comparisons:
http://stackoverflow.com/quest...

Instead, you feel you need to create atomic string comparison functions by hand, like it is terribly hard. So everyone should just reinvent the wheel to prove how "leet" they are, so they can be "leet" like you. You act like Unix never existed, and persist in not using the tools provided which would make your software run faster and use less resources. It also would prevent mistakes in your comparison code, but I guess you already know that, and so feel that your source code should be hidden away to avoid being proven a programming idiot rather than god like you claim with "no proof"

Re:Bwaaahahaha Coren22 "skrypt kiddie"... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"Oh, and calling my a script kiddie, dispite your misspellings, just makes you look like an absolute moron" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Tuesday November 24, 2015 @11:26AM (#50994701)

See subject & "EAT YOUR WORDS" again hypocrite. Learn to spell & practice what you preach, assburgers brain... it's spelled "despite", stupid!

APK

P.S.=> Unbelievable - lmao: I can see it now - his abnormal assburgers brain is 'malfunctioning', lol, bolts falling out of his ears, the hamster furiously spinning on its wheel inside his PUNY defective brain, smoke coming out of his nostrils in rage @ his stupidity - lmao... apk

Do better bigmouth (eat your words)... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Says it all - R O T F L M A O @ U! I'm laughing @ U fool - & so is all of /. (making SURE of that libeler).

APK

P.S.=> Tell us about AD + DNS too while you're @ it - OR about how my program NEEDS admin privelege to update too, lol... fool - 'eat your words' on ALL those accounts chump!

... apk

Re:Do better bigmouth (eat your words)... apk

[Coren22]

Sure.

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

Now, are you going to have ketchup with your word salad?

Coren22 how's it taste "eating your words"?

[Anonymous Coward]

See subject: Says it all - R O T F L M A O @ U http://slashdot.org/comments.p... !

* I'm laughing @ U fool - & so is all of /. (making SURE of that libeler).

APK

P.S.=> Tell us about AD + DNS too while you're @ it & how you said I said not to run DNS when I use it myself & said to NOT use external to network DNS with AD http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - OR about how my program NEEDS admin privelege to update too (& it doesn't http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ), lol... fool - 'eat your words' on ALL those accounts chump!

... apk

Re:Coren22 how's it taste "eating your words"?

[Coren22]

Sure.

http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

There you go, now go eat your words, I am full from my lunch. Mmm Gyros.

Coren22: w/ a side dish of your words too?

[Anonymous Coward]

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My code went thru verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

hpHosts Site Admin Mr. Steven Burn quoted:

"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe."

FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

(On my latest 9.0++ code engine above & from past versions -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

Bullshit: 62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

APK

P.S.=> Eat your words, scumbag: Tell us about AD + DNS too while you're @ it & how you said I said not to run DNS when I use it myself & said to NOT use external to network DNS with AD http://slashdot.org/comments.p... - OR about how my program NEEDS admin privelege to update too (& it doesn't http://slashdot.org/comments.p... ), lol... fool - 'eat your words' on ALL those accounts chump!

... apk

The bitchslapping of Dave420 #1/2... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"Everyone who does use HOSTS files (myself included) doesn't use your software" - by dave420 (699308) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @07:30AM (#50869743)

Some /.'ers made you "eat your words": They use my hosts file engine saying it's good vs. your bullshit:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

(LMAO... you FAIL as usual, again, vs. me!)

* What's that you said I have quoted from you above Dave420?

APK

P.S.=> Thanks for making me look good: You always say something I can put away with undeniable facts that prove you wrong... lol!

... apk

The bitchslapping of Dave420 #2/2... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"You have no supporters with accounts" - by dave420 (699308) on Monday November 23, 2015 @11:17AM (#50985793)

See subject & this quote of your words you must eat vs. me yet again:

Tepples does http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

aaaaaaargh! does http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

Trax3001BBS does http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

KGIII does http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

* So do all these /.'ers who use my program who think it's good:

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

APK

P.S.=> What's that you said Dave420? Outnumbered by 12++:1 for starters?? LMAO... apk

The bitchslapping of Dave420 #1/2... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"Everyone who does use HOSTS files (myself included) doesn't use your software" - by dave420 (699308) on Thursday November 05, 2015 @07:30AM (#50869743)

Some /.'ers made you "eat your words": They use my hosts file engine saying it's good vs. your bullshit:

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

(LMAO... you FAIL as usual, again, vs. me!)

* What's that you said I have quoted from you above Dave420?

APK

P.S.=> Thanks for making me look good - You always say something I can put away with undeniable facts that prove you wrong... lol!

... apk

The bitchslapping of Dave420 #2/2... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"You have no supporters with accounts" - by dave420 (699308) on Monday November 23, 2015 @11:17AM (#50985793)

See subject & this quote of your words you must eat vs. me yet again:

Tepples does http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

aaaaaaargh! does http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

Trax3001BBS does http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

KGIII does http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

* So do all these /.'ers who use my program who think it's good:

"No complaints from me, I like APK's spam. Reminds me to use a host file. Also, his stuff is free." - by aaaaaaargh! (1150173) on Tuesday November 17, 2015 @09:31AM (#50947415)

"his hosts program is actually pretty good" - by xenotransplant (4179011) on Monday August 10, 2015 @03:34PM (#50287195)

"I like your host file system." - by Karmashock (2415832) on Wednesday September 09, 2015 @03:57PM (#50489401)

"APK is kinda right... I've given up on JS based adblocking and gone to blackholing in /etc/hosts, just like it was back in the 90s. The computational load has gotten intolerable for any ad-blocking using JS. I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works." - by bmo (77928) on Thursday October 15, 2015 @11:30AM (#50736071)

"Actually, APK is totally right on this count. Adblock Plus on Firefox mobile is a dog on older, or lower end, phones. A hostfile based adblocker makes for a much better experience in this context. Of course, your phone has to be rooted, which isn't the case with Firefox + adblock." - by chihowa (366380) on Saturday May 16, 2015 @11:40AM (#49705641)

"his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources" by alexgieg (948359) on Friday September 25, 2015 @09:57AM (#50596461)

"APK isn't wrong" - by cfalcon (779563) on Sunday October 04, 2015 @05:11PM (#50657891)

APK

P.S.=> What's that you said Dave420? Outnumbered by 12++:1 for starters?? LMAO... apk

Coren22: EAT YOUR WORDS retard... apk

[Anonymous Coward]

"the secretary at MalwareBytes took a look at his source code and said it looked all good to them" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

My code went thru verification by Mr. Steven Burn of Malwarebytes' hpHosts

hpHosts Site Admin Mr. Steven Burn quoted:

"I've been asked to further clarify so for the record yes I've seen the code, and yes, it is safe."

FROM http://forum.hosts-file.net/vi...

(On my latest 9.0++ code engine above & from past versions -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

A competent coder & BEST security researcher I know of FROM THE BEST ANTIMALWARE THERE IS http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

NOT a secretary!

I don't give away work to be stolen OR misused like GOOGLE CHROME http://it.slashdot.org/story/1...

---

"won't demonstrate security of his product be exposing the source" - by Coren22 (1625475) on Wednesday November 18, 2015

Bullshit: 62 reputable sources + /. users say different:

Safe by 57 antivirus programs in 64-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

+

the 32-bit model https://www.virustotal.com/en/...

&

Per VirScan (installer too)-> http://f.virscan.org/APKHostsF...

MalwareBytes' hpHosts Admin (MalwareBytes employee) hosts & recommends it -> http://hosts-file.net/?s=Downl... & MalwareBytes = BEST antivirus per this VERY recent testing of them all http://www.av-test.org/en/news...

APK

P.S.=> Eat your words, scumbag: Tell us about AD + DNS too while you're @ it & how you said I said not to run DNS when I use it myself & said to NOT use external to network DNS with AD http://slashdot.org/comments.p...

OR

About how my program NEEDS admin privelege to update too (& it doesn't http://slashdot.org/comments.p... )

LMAO... fool - 'eat your words' on ALL those accounts chump!

... apk

This isn't suprising

[ToddInSF]

Anonymous isn't about anything but Anonymous.

Your Beliefs Don't Make You A Better Person

[NewYork]

Muslims didn't kill 65 million people in World_War_I;
Muslims didn't kill 85 million people in World_War_II;

The Arabic countries led by the Muslims were the most advanced scientists/engineers in the world, until they let the religious CRAZIES take over.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

God != Religion;

[NewYork]

Religions are ~2000 years old;
Humans are ~200,000 years old;
Religion was born when the first con-man met the first fool;

It's True!

[morgauxo]

And just imagine if Anonymous actually stopped a major terrorist attack. They would be eliminating a major source of FUD that could have helped convince people to allow intelligence agencies to even further erode our privacy! You know.. to "protect" us.