not all of us... the most troubling aspects of the sterling case to me, has always been it's issues regarding "court of public opinion", confiscation of property, and privacy. I'm a damn liberal, but civil liberties are more important than that.
I say if sterling makes a windfall from this, it's karmic punishment for people thinking it's a good idea for him to be done so for why he was. Force him out for racism? only when he's caught DOING something racist. not just saying it at home.
just to chime in, not necessarily about the "middle eastern" espionage, but in regards to chinese. There is something fundamentally different between state sanctioned espionage for national defense. and state sanctioned industrial espionage. I'm Ok with the chinese or any other nation really, spying on me to make sure I don't bomb them to hell. That's pretty much how the game is played, but hacking for the industrial edge is another matter altogether.
when you do try it, remember. the EVA has mono-propellant. I've done it at least twice now, not enough dV to make it into atmosphere during return leg... so i'd hop out and push my damn capsule with my face.
you're basically infringing the ability and right of potential employers to make an informed decision regarding their employees. and setting up a system where those larger companies that can afford background checks have access to a less felonious pool of talent... which, you're at your leisure to do. you've made the decision that potentially those who've absolved themselves of their crime deserve more protections than their victims, and economically and socially this may be where you've found the most success, but please acknowledge that you are in fact trampling on the rights of some to elevate the rights of others. It is not purely upside.
you besmirch the good name of KSP. I hear it's fun for the entire family, 8 year old kids up to daddy and mommy who work as rocket scientists. It also teaches important life lessons: there is no problem too big that more booster rockets can't solve.
nah, same way i don't like to play horror games, and much prefer CTF over deathmatches. If the optimal way to play a game, means that you screw over other players, and you don't like feeling like you've just screwed someone over... i can definitely understand the urge to stop playing and play something more constructive.
games are an abstraction from reality, but not the enjoyment of those games by the players is solidly based in reality. When you screw someone out of a deal in a game, you are basically stealing their time, or their money... and definitely their enjoyment of the game. this is not some theoretical, someone on the other end of the Internets becomes unhappy. I would have no issues with "trolling" npcs, but i believe trolls would.
i do not, motives matter. they have almost equal weight to actions. a treasure trove of american history to choose from. an entire greatest generation, men who've walked on the moon... men who established the very concepts that you say Mr. Snowden is defending... and they choose someone whose motives are murky at best.
you may appreciate his actions, which i would debate, but i would never call him heroic. my heroes are made of sterner stuff.
... what a simple world you live in. i'm paranoid enough to believe that the enemy of my enemy, might just want to kill me worse than the first enemy does. You should know, you seem like the kind that would make enemies anywhere they go...
really depends on what you mean by feel badly. i've sacrificed stats or gold to pick the less crappy option for some of the NPCs. I actually weigh how the story unfolds against the reward differential between two courses. Sometimes you're power-gaming, but sometimes you don't want your character to be a dick.
realistically, the hallmark of great art, literature, film, etc. is to make you feel emotion, to make you forget that the characters aren't real. Is it so much of a surprise that when we get to that state, we don't want the characters to die?
:) as someone else said somewhere in this thread, they tried rust and Day-z but eventually stopped playing because it made them feel terrible... as a person.
a survival mmo might be different, and oftentimes is. I was referencing trolling in that regard as the kind of behavior that speaks to a person's personality, and that a consequence free, anonymous environment may bring out in someone. Saying that survival MMO's don't provide similar insights into a gamer's character would be dishonest.
i think it's what you call hindsight... and selection bias. The same way people tend to think stuff was manufactured more ruggedly in the past... because only the rugged stuff survived to be remembered.
The author completely fails to mention the shitty ideas that people were completely justified in dismissing.
and the things that were dismissed... and were in fact wrong? you're talking false positives. If the author wants us to investigate more crackpot theories, he does not have the goal of faster scientific discovery in mind. There's probably a balance that maximizes progress for investment capital... and that balance probably lies in no re-investigation of stupid ideas unless advances in other areas shed additional light on the issue.
no, it's a little different as in video games, oftentimes you are somehow linked to teh death in some way, i think all the examples he gave were NPC deaths due to inaction or ill-preparedness.
Books and movies are retellings of already established stories, there is little you can do to change what happens in them, and emotionally i think people appreciate that. It's about perceived agency.
"integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching" - C.S. Lewis
there are no real consequences, except in large part the emotions of other players. it's the purest judge of character, in the absence of consequence, identity, material gain. how do we treat each other. I don't troll in games, because I understand that there are 17 other real people in the game with me, I'll dick around, because ultimately it is about having fun, but never at the expense of others... because i'm not a dick.
true enough, if they were single player games. but time is money and money is time, even in a virtual setting.
trolling and griefing, stealing and looting. these are all things that do reflect back on the empathy of the player. trolls wouldn't troll unless they took amusement out of ruining the fun of others, and that speaks to a very specific mindset.
maybe games can't reveal psychopaths, but i'm not willing discount their value in that regards, and they certainly do a hell of a job of revealing assholes.
you've just made australia like... 50 times as terrifying. not only do they have terrifying fauna, and their flora will combust at you, now they're trying to evolve infrastructure eating microbes? what next?
are they trying to mad scientist a zombie irwin? are they? ARE THEY?
the only place south of australia is hell, and i hear that's more pleasant in the summer months.
also, just thought it through, and this kind of precedent is pretty scary in relation to political transparency. if people want to argue for transparency in political contributions, we can't have examples of people getting punished for going through proper channels. this just makes for more evidence that political contributions of all kinds should be anonymous.
just looked it up. I guess i was wrong, i thought political speech was protected in some way... but apparently if you work in the private sector, political speech gets no protection whatsoever except in a handful of blue states.
you can be fired for having a bumper sticker. this is the world we live in.
the hilarious thing being, in a bunch of these states they can't fire you for being gay, but they can fire you for being a democrat:).
if political campaigns and speech don't warrant extra protections then this whole great experiment is kind of pointless isn't it? the bedrock of this republic is that we aren't allowed to intimidate voters. I find libertarianism and veganism ridiculous, but i don't want to arbitrate that line, neither do i want others to do it for me. I find the full-throated defense of the 2nd amendment patently ridiculous, but i'll defend their right to defend it without repercussion. If you want to debate the merits of a political cause, debate them in a political arena, but when mob-mentality starts bleeding into politics we've got issues. It's why we have a bicameral system, and we're a consitutional republic for a reason. Not trusting the monarchy, but equally leery of the mob.
Sterling- but that's not why he's being crucified for. He's being crucified for a 30 minute private conversation. And he's set to lose somewhere in the range of 30% of his property value to taxes because of it, at best. He's been caught in discriminatory renting practices before, so they claim. You say it so casually, he's been accused of discriminatory renting practices before, and he settled out of court, which means that the issue is settled without any wrongdoing being admitted. We are a nation of laws, not of men, and the law is the only thing that stands between us and a bad day before the kangaroo court of public opinion.
i don't know, we wear down pretty fast, considering i'm a new me every 7-10 years or so, i'm going to go with, holy hell that's a impressive amount of repair. if we didn't constantly replace old cells, don't know how long we'd last. might shave something like 80% off the expected lifetime of the machine:)
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not all of us... the most troubling aspects of the sterling case to me, has always been it's issues regarding "court of public opinion", confiscation of property, and privacy. I'm a damn liberal, but civil liberties are more important than that.
I say if sterling makes a windfall from this, it's karmic punishment for people thinking it's a good idea for him to be done so for why he was. Force him out for racism? only when he's caught DOING something racist. not just saying it at home.
just to chime in, not necessarily about the "middle eastern" espionage, but in regards to chinese. There is something fundamentally different between state sanctioned espionage for national defense. and state sanctioned industrial espionage. I'm Ok with the chinese or any other nation really, spying on me to make sure I don't bomb them to hell. That's pretty much how the game is played, but hacking for the industrial edge is another matter altogether.
i'd recommend that.
when you do try it, remember. the EVA has mono-propellant. I've done it at least twice now, not enough dV to make it into atmosphere during return leg... so i'd hop out and push my damn capsule with my face.
you're basically infringing the ability and right of potential employers to make an informed decision regarding their employees. and setting up a system where those larger companies that can afford background checks have access to a less felonious pool of talent... which, you're at your leisure to do. you've made the decision that potentially those who've absolved themselves of their crime deserve more protections than their victims, and economically and socially this may be where you've found the most success, but please acknowledge that you are in fact trampling on the rights of some to elevate the rights of others. It is not purely upside.
you besmirch the good name of KSP. I hear it's fun for the entire family, 8 year old kids up to daddy and mommy who work as rocket scientists. It also teaches important life lessons: there is no problem too big that more booster rockets can't solve.
nah, same way i don't like to play horror games, and much prefer CTF over deathmatches. If the optimal way to play a game, means that you screw over other players, and you don't like feeling like you've just screwed someone over... i can definitely understand the urge to stop playing and play something more constructive.
games are an abstraction from reality, but not the enjoyment of those games by the players is solidly based in reality. When you screw someone out of a deal in a game, you are basically stealing their time, or their money... and definitely their enjoyment of the game. this is not some theoretical, someone on the other end of the Internets becomes unhappy. I would have no issues with "trolling" npcs, but i believe trolls would.
i do not, motives matter. they have almost equal weight to actions. a treasure trove of american history to choose from. an entire greatest generation, men who've walked on the moon... men who established the very concepts that you say Mr. Snowden is defending... and they choose someone whose motives are murky at best.
you may appreciate his actions, which i would debate, but i would never call him heroic. my heroes are made of sterner stuff.
someone needs to edumacate those kids.
... what a simple world you live in. i'm paranoid enough to believe that the enemy of my enemy, might just want to kill me worse than the first enemy does. You should know, you seem like the kind that would make enemies anywhere they go...
a Menage a Enemy, if you will.
really depends on what you mean by feel badly. i've sacrificed stats or gold to pick the less crappy option for some of the NPCs. I actually weigh how the story unfolds against the reward differential between two courses. Sometimes you're power-gaming, but sometimes you don't want your character to be a dick.
realistically, the hallmark of great art, literature, film, etc. is to make you feel emotion, to make you forget that the characters aren't real. Is it so much of a surprise that when we get to that state, we don't want the characters to die?
:) as someone else said somewhere in this thread, they tried rust and Day-z but eventually stopped playing because it made them feel terrible... as a person.
a survival mmo might be different, and oftentimes is. I was referencing trolling in that regard as the kind of behavior that speaks to a person's personality, and that a consequence free, anonymous environment may bring out in someone. Saying that survival MMO's don't provide similar insights into a gamer's character would be dishonest.
i think it's what you call hindsight... and selection bias. The same way people tend to think stuff was manufactured more ruggedly in the past... because only the rugged stuff survived to be remembered.
The author completely fails to mention the shitty ideas that people were completely justified in dismissing.
and the things that were dismissed... and were in fact wrong? you're talking false positives. If the author wants us to investigate more crackpot theories, he does not have the goal of faster scientific discovery in mind. There's probably a balance that maximizes progress for investment capital... and that balance probably lies in no re-investigation of stupid ideas unless advances in other areas shed additional light on the issue.
no, it's a little different as in video games, oftentimes you are somehow linked to teh death in some way, i think all the examples he gave were NPC deaths due to inaction or ill-preparedness.
Books and movies are retellings of already established stories, there is little you can do to change what happens in them, and emotionally i think people appreciate that. It's about perceived agency.
"integrity is doing the right thing, even when no one is watching" - C.S. Lewis
there are no real consequences, except in large part the emotions of other players. it's the purest judge of character, in the absence of consequence, identity, material gain. how do we treat each other. I don't troll in games, because I understand that there are 17 other real people in the game with me, I'll dick around, because ultimately it is about having fun, but never at the expense of others... because i'm not a dick.
the veneer is pretty damn thick... if people can complain about the sad state of civilization, and i can't shoot them for it... through the internet.
fah, complaining about the lack of civilization... is oxymoronic. if it were truly as uncivilized as all that, you'd be too busy to complain.
true enough, if they were single player games. but time is money and money is time, even in a virtual setting.
trolling and griefing, stealing and looting. these are all things that do reflect back on the empathy of the player.
trolls wouldn't troll unless they took amusement out of ruining the fun of others, and that speaks to a very specific mindset.
maybe games can't reveal psychopaths, but i'm not willing discount their value in that regards, and they certainly do a hell of a job of revealing assholes.
someone please upmod, for great justice.
you've just made australia like... 50 times as terrifying. not only do they have terrifying fauna, and their flora will combust at you, now they're trying to evolve infrastructure eating microbes? what next?
are they trying to mad scientist a zombie irwin? are they? ARE THEY?
the only place south of australia is hell, and i hear that's more pleasant in the summer months.
brill, if there is no forest, there is no fire :)
if it doesn't work at first, add more rockets.
Good advice for any situation.
also, just thought it through, and this kind of precedent is pretty scary in relation to political transparency. if people want to argue for transparency in political contributions, we can't have examples of people getting punished for going through proper channels. this just makes for more evidence that political contributions of all kinds should be anonymous.
just looked it up. I guess i was wrong, i thought political speech was protected in some way... but apparently if you work in the private sector, political speech gets no protection whatsoever except in a handful of blue states.
you can be fired for having a bumper sticker. this is the world we live in.
the hilarious thing being, in a bunch of these states they can't fire you for being gay, but they can fire you for being a democrat :).
if political campaigns and speech don't warrant extra protections then this whole great experiment is kind of pointless isn't it? the bedrock of this republic is that we aren't allowed to intimidate voters. I find libertarianism and veganism ridiculous, but i don't want to arbitrate that line, neither do i want others to do it for me. I find the full-throated defense of the 2nd amendment patently ridiculous, but i'll defend their right to defend it without repercussion. If you want to debate the merits of a political cause, debate them in a political arena, but when mob-mentality starts bleeding into politics we've got issues. It's why we have a bicameral system, and we're a consitutional republic for a reason. Not trusting the monarchy, but equally leery of the mob.
Sterling- but that's not why he's being crucified for. He's being crucified for a 30 minute private conversation. And he's set to lose somewhere in the range of 30% of his property value to taxes because of it, at best. He's been caught in discriminatory renting practices before, so they claim. You say it so casually, he's been accused of discriminatory renting practices before, and he settled out of court, which means that the issue is settled without any wrongdoing being admitted. We are a nation of laws, not of men, and the law is the only thing that stands between us and a bad day before the kangaroo court of public opinion.
i don't know, we wear down pretty fast, considering i'm a new me every 7-10 years or so, i'm going to go with, holy hell that's a impressive amount of repair. if we didn't constantly replace old cells, don't know how long we'd last. might shave something like 80% off the expected lifetime of the machine :)
as a milkian, i take exception to your exclusion of all exoplanets.