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...no really, I did read it. Honest.
Although the writer does have a few good points, he also has some rather large gaps in his knowledge. He really only knows the FreeBSD system, but seems to assume the other BSDs do things exactly the same. Some of his arguments would apply to NetBSD and OpenBSD, but not all of them.
His personal bias really shows through in the writing, almost bordering on making it a flame or troll against Linux, even though he mentions over and over that this is not the intent.
I'd love to see the same article written by someone with less personal bias, and more actual knowledge of Linux and the BSDs.
Anyone notice this is the same guy who solved Towers of Hanoi in over 100+ ways? Check out is projects link in the FAAQ.
Quite impressive for someone who got hardcore into computing just out of spite.
Also of note from his resume: He's also doing Desktop Linux work for IBM. Interesting to know that IBM does Desktop Linux at all, even if it is confined to their research labs at this point.
Right now I'm paying $70CAN for TV and Internet, and I have at times seen well over 5MBit speeds. Probably closer to 10MBit actually.
Of course I'm fairly luckly, since dslreports recently said Shaw Cable is one of the fastest ISPs in the world.
I do love how the cable companies and telephone companies hate each other so much. Right now we actually have the telephone company offering digital TV. The cable company is very much talking about getting into telephone service if the telephone company takes too many TV customers away.
I think any net traffic statistics will tell you that a very high percentage of the internet's traffic is Kazaa. On some networks, there is more Kazaa traffic than web traffic. Taxing all internet traffic on the basis that somewhere near half of it is copyrighted material isn't so far out there. Many broadband ISPs costs are more related to the amount of traffic in the network than the number of users online, so saying that the majority of the users don't infringe (which may not be true anyhow) probably won't be a valid argument to the recording industry. They'll want to tax the ISPs who arguably are making a profit off of illegal copying, and the ISPs will want to distribute this cost to the users.
Maybe you'll see a tiered services where if you use a certain amount of bandwidth, you pay more. More of the tax could get offloaded to the home users who use the most bandwidth (and therefore already cost their ISP more money).
Since I'm a high bandwidth user and the traffic is not Kazaa, I'm not too thrilled about this possibility. But if the internet does becomes taxed, I'd might as well fire up my gift daemon and get some songs.
At least wait a week or so before posting something this absurd. I'm pretty damn sure Apple was planning on patching 10.2 sooner or later, but they just got around to 10.3 first.
Or maybe they just wanted to test 10.2 a bit more since it is more likely to be use in production than the week-old 10.3. Either way, it is a bit of a stretch to say that Apple has massively changed their patching policy just because one patch is a bit later than some would like. Quite the big accusation; quite little evidence.
In the end, Apple gets all this negative publicity on Slashdot for no reason at all. I guess MS gets that a lot on here, but I'd expect us to be a bit kinder to our UNIX brothers.
Either that or they're doing a heck of a lot of auditing lately. Hopefully they'll find a bunch at once, and be done with it for a while.
But unfortunately from what I've seen from OpenSSH, it appears that we may have another sendmail/wu-ftp/bind type program in terms of security. That is not a good thing, since many services are being changed to use ssh/ssl for transport, leaving us with a single point of (in)security.
This is sure embarassing for the OpenBSD team though. Their code is right now some of the worst in BSD land for security (although in fairness, it is mostly portable ssh that has problems. On OpenBSD, OpenSSH has much cleaner code and is much more secure).
Um, they did as of RedHat 9. They do not call it RedHat 9.0 anymore. I'm pretty sure RedHat 10 will be the next release, unless they decide to call it RedHat X.
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I'm just pissed that the WWF (wildlife) wouldn't take money from WWE over the issue. You're a fscking charity, and a billionaire wants to keep using your 3 initials for his company. I think they just might be able to get something for that. If his money isn't good enough for them, why should I donate? I really don't care if they're thw WWF, PWF (panda wildlife fund) or whatever. But if they're going to use donation money to go to court with a big media company instead of settling the case and spending the money on their environmental work, I do care.
If WWE has done a name change and moved on, I'm sure the current WWF could've as well, plus been much the richer for it. Keep the panda, drop or share the initials. No biggie. Stupid WWF.
Bundling products is considered unfair competition. Ever heard of Netscape vs IE? What the hell do you think the antitrust trial was all about? GIving away a product bundled as part of the OS they happen to have a monopoly share with is definately using their monopoly to cause harm to competitors.
Allowing for clients on rival OS's and then suddenly pulling the plug on them could also get them in trouble. Clearly they want to force everyone to use Windows by bundling all of their products together. They call it integration, others call it predatory OS monopoly.
I guess the only point I could add is that homosexuals would also like to be able to start families, although admittedly they need to adopt or have some outside influence to do so (although apparently men are redundant now since they can fertilize an egg with a woman's DNA - I'm too lazy to look up the/. article though). Unfortunately they run into people's notions of marriage and a family that work against them. They feel this is unfair prejudice, and that their sexual preference shouldn't preclude them from taking part in the institutes of marriage and families. Of course these institutions come from thousands of years of human history, so it is difficult to say that prejudice and bigotry are the only factors here.
Now should the institutions of marriage and family be encouraged to broaden themselves to accomodate homosexuals or not? I don't know for sure. As a younger and more liberal person, I'd lean towards yes, but I certainly understand why all don't feel that way. It certainly won't be easy for gays even if they get this benefit though law, since it will take society a long time to adjust to kids with two dads or moms. But considering how many one parent families we have, I'd hope we can get over it, since two parents (no matter what sex they are) have to be better than just one. Plus it is not nice to see the kid suffer b/c of prejudice against his/her parents (some would argue that this is why gays shouldn't adopt or have families, at least not yet).
So is it a progressive society to change our ways, or are we going against 1000s of years of tradition and possibly nature itself? Compromise with legal definitions or change all of society? It seems in the end that no matter what the law says it will be a matter of personal opinion anyhow, so as long as the law treats everyone fairly and justly I don't really care how it is resolved. Not everyone will be pleased no matter what the outcome is. I still think this is mostly a sqaubble over terms anyhow, somewhat a marriage vs Marriage deal. The fact you're quoting definitions from the UN pretty much supports me in that regard, since the UN and Canadian law will likely disagree on that definition of 'marriage' in the near future (even though Canadian law will be mostly referring to little 'm' marriage for taxes, and the UN is referring to big 'M' Marriage as an institution of humanity).
Just wait until we want to legalize polygamy - that'll be an interesting debate. One could argue that polygamy is less out of the ordinary in human history than homosexuality, even though I can't see it being legalized anytime soon. Certainly not before gay marriages/unions.
I've seen the same thing from some Gentoo users. Gentoo has also made installing software from CVS a snap, which doesn't always sit well with certain developers. A lot of relatively clueless users (at least relative to regular CVS users) are working with unreleased code and asking for support, without having the ability to debug or be all that helpful.
But to their credit, the Gentoo user's forum is a great place for support for any Linux issues, not just Gentoo ones. It seems to be full of many more helpful people than most other forums or IRC channels. The user base is generally pretty knowledgeable and helpful with regards to configuration and use of major open source packages.
As for the extreme evangelists, I think it may be due to the fact there are a lot of people that were never quite satisfied with their Linux distro until they tried Gentoo. They maybe get carried away with pushing their new found love on others though, but any distro/OS/product/religion will get that. The Gentoo users I know stop far short of saying that we should install Gentoo on newbie user machines or production servers. They love the system, but know its weaknesses and limitations.
Too bad the Gentoo trollers that do exist are turning people off of the system.
Comparing Pro-Choice to Hitler is not at all fair. Sorry.
Also, your point about "arbitrary stage of development" is very narrow as well. You migth as well start singing "every sperm is sacred!" from Monty Python. One egg and one sperm do not consititue a human being, no matter how much potential for one there may be. I don't see that being any different the moment they join.
Now as to what point a fetus actually is a human being, well that is what is being debated I guess. Arguments that the US Supreme Court took as convincing involved brain activity, although I do realize it is very hard to pick an exact time in the cycle. It is a very grey area.
Some try to make it easier by picking birth as the moment we are human, but how about 2 days before birth? How about c-sections? That doesn't work in reality, it is just convenient. So is picking conception, despite the fact you only have 2 joined cells sitting in a rather warm and wet body cavity. Really you're only one step away from saying that the individual sperm and egg are a human being. What you're really talking about is potential to be a human being, not humanity itself.
I'm not going to say I know the answer or exact time that a fetus becomes human, but I'm not going to be a zealot and take the easy way out either. Sometimes these things aren't meant to be easy to decide. If it were really so morally clear, there wouldn't be so many passionate debates about it.
I forgot to mention that Debian is the basis of Knoppix. People have been doing some really neat things with Knoppix and derivatives. I've given it out as a demo CD to a few people, and now they want me to install Linux to their hard drives.
Having Debian around as a base system for others to build on is really turning out to be a great thing for the community.
Debian still makes a wonderful production server in some situations; something Gentoo really isn't up to doing.
I do think Debian is losing its edge in the developer community though. It used to be that most developers used Debian on their main workstation, but now you are seeing Gentoo mentioned a whole lot. I guess being that Gentoo is bleeding edge and source based, this does make sense.
Debian is also useful as a base for other distributions. Xandros, Lindows and Libranet are all Debian based. Having a nearly LSB compliant and completely Free Software Linux distribution is a good thing. It keeps the other players honest, and forces them to provide real value.
Apt-get continues to be the best solution for package management in Linux. It is being used by some on RPM systems such as Red Hat and SuSe. The only distribution that I believe would not be helped by apt-get is Mandrake, since their own tool urpmi is also very nice. In fact, if Mandrake were ever to go under (which looks very unlikely now), I think you'd see the distribution take on a similar role to Debian in the free software world.
2) Debian will contain the most up-to-date of everything.
My how things have changed.
6) Debian will make Linux easier for users who don't have access to the
Internet.
Debian's main strongpoint is apt-get, which would not be so useful for users with no internet access. The beauty of Debian is that you can install it once and update it forever. Seems Debian's original goals and their current strongpoints are quite different.
Try something called hotwayd. It is a POP gateway to hotmail, so you can use any POP mail client with your hotmail account. I've been using it for a year with KMail and it works great.
There is also something called gotmail I believe which will also do the trick.
Though this is an obvious troll, I'll bite anyhow (maybe not a troll - maybe this is Balmer's idea of being more active in the community;) ).
Reputable software companies such as Microsoft,
So I suppose Sun, Corel, IBM, Apple, and SGI are not reputable software companies. Hrmm, that was news to me.
Plus, you might want to know that MS ships BSD code in their operating system (do a 'strings' on ftp.exe to see one example), and they sell a set of Unix Services for Windows that uses GPL'd code from GNU.
Basically we'd all be much better of if UNIX hadn't been written on AT&T equipment and company time. Because it was written in their labs using their equipment, they basically took ownership over something they never intended to make or market. The current mess we have with the Open Group and SCO is a direct result of AT&Ts assertion of ownership over UNIX.
If it had been put into public domain or under a BSD style license in the first place, we'd all be much better off right now. In fact, it is likely that Linux would have never become more popular than the BSDs at all, plus the motivation for GNU would've been very minimal in the first place to most people (RMS would not be satisfied with a BSD license, but some others would be).
Things would look a lot different, that is for sure. Not necessarily better though. I'm sure the suits would still ruin things with lawsuits somehow.
Yes, but since AOL is losing money by the truckload, they basically are now being run by the Time Warner side. That is why they're settling with MS (they need money to make up for losses, and aren't too concerned with AOL's nagging lawsuits).
For all intensive purposes, AOL is now Time Warner, not the other way around. Especially with Steve Case being removed from power.
Is there any chance that Lindows will join the Destop Linux Consortium? Has there been any contact between Lindows and this group at all?
I realize that part of the reason the group formed was some due to dissatisfaction over how the Desktop Linux Summit was managed by Lindows, but I do hope that the group would be willing to accept Lindows as a member. Your Desktop Linux Summit really did spark interest in Linux on the Desktop - enough so that these compaines felt that it was time to form a group to take advantage of this interest. I think that it was really great that Lindows took the initiative and put some money into a conference like this, and I really hope that you can work with other vendors to help spur interest in Linux on the Desktop even further (without having to fund most of it by yourselves!).
Oh, by the way, thanks for sponsoring www.kde-look.org.
There are a few different programs that let you do X11 in Windows. The only open source one I know is part of the Cygwin project and can be found at http://cygwin.com/xfree/ . They do not work the same way as VNC though - you don't "view" the desktop that is on the server machine, you start a new desktop using the resources of the server machine (but the drawing is done locally). So each user logged in through X11 can have their own VMWare or Win4Lin.
It looks like the VMWare thing wouldn't be hard to fix for a Linux/Unix admin. If the problem is really as easy to fix as the error message indicates, it'd probably be a few minute job for someone.
Also, I'd still try Win4Lin from http://www.netraverse.com/. It is a lot more lightweight than VMWare, and it allows you to use the Linux filesystem directly instead of having to use a virtual file system inside a file (like VMWare does). I found it integrated into Linux much nicer, plus was a whole boatload faster. It only runs Win98 or WinME however.
If only 1 person will use the software at a time, VNC from a windows box (or remote desktop from Windows XP) would probably be better than running Linux on the server. The VNC server can be installed on Windows, so there is no need to get Linux and emulate Windows in order to use VNC.
Crap, I gotta go - Sorry that this post was rushed...
I'm not sure why VMWare wouldn't work over VNC, but I suppose you could try Win4Lin.
Also, you could install Cygwin's XFree86 on the windows machines and log in to the Linux machine remotely. From there you could run VMWare, Win4Lin, or your program though Wine (if you can get it working).
Of course you could just install your program on a windows box and install TightVNC on it so that everyone could use it remotely in its native environment. Either that, or you could use the Remote Desktop features of Windows XP.
All in all, you're basically taking advantage of the license's wording by using it remotely from other machines. Assumedly they didn't think of that possibility when they wrote their license. Neither did MS once upon a time, but unfortunately I think we'll have a lot more trouble with their EULA's and running software in Wine (we're aleady starting to see this now).
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...no really, I did read it. Honest.
Although the writer does have a few good points, he also has some rather large gaps in his knowledge. He really only knows the FreeBSD system, but seems to assume the other BSDs do things exactly the same. Some of his arguments would apply to NetBSD and OpenBSD, but not all of them.
His personal bias really shows through in the writing, almost bordering on making it a flame or troll against Linux, even though he mentions over and over that this is not the intent.
I'd love to see the same article written by someone with less personal bias, and more actual knowledge of Linux and the BSDs.
Anyone notice this is the same guy who solved Towers of Hanoi in over 100+ ways? Check out is projects link in the FAAQ.
Quite impressive for someone who got hardcore into computing just out of spite.
Also of note from his resume: He's also doing Desktop Linux work for IBM. Interesting to know that IBM does Desktop Linux at all, even if it is confined to their research labs at this point.
The guy's Resume says that he works on Linux on the Desktop at IBM's research lab.
Interesting to see IBM working with Linux on the Desktop at all.
Right now I'm paying $70CAN for TV and Internet, and I have at times seen well over 5MBit speeds. Probably closer to 10MBit actually.
Of course I'm fairly luckly, since dslreports recently said Shaw Cable is one of the fastest ISPs in the world.
I do love how the cable companies and telephone companies hate each other so much. Right now we actually have the telephone company offering digital TV. The cable company is very much talking about getting into telephone service if the telephone company takes too many TV customers away.
I think any net traffic statistics will tell you that a very high percentage of the internet's traffic is Kazaa. On some networks, there is more Kazaa traffic than web traffic. Taxing all internet traffic on the basis that somewhere near half of it is copyrighted material isn't so far out there. Many broadband ISPs costs are more related to the amount of traffic in the network than the number of users online, so saying that the majority of the users don't infringe (which may not be true anyhow) probably won't be a valid argument to the recording industry. They'll want to tax the ISPs who arguably are making a profit off of illegal copying, and the ISPs will want to distribute this cost to the users.
Maybe you'll see a tiered services where if you use a certain amount of bandwidth, you pay more. More of the tax could get offloaded to the home users who use the most bandwidth (and therefore already cost their ISP more money).
Since I'm a high bandwidth user and the traffic is not Kazaa, I'm not too thrilled about this possibility. But if the internet does becomes taxed, I'd might as well fire up my gift daemon and get some songs.
> I'm all for it... but I live in TORONTO!"
You poor bastard!
At least wait a week or so before posting something this absurd. I'm pretty damn sure Apple was planning on patching 10.2 sooner or later, but they just got around to 10.3 first.
Or maybe they just wanted to test 10.2 a bit more since it is more likely to be use in production than the week-old 10.3. Either way, it is a bit of a stretch to say that Apple has massively changed their patching policy just because one patch is a bit later than some would like. Quite the big accusation; quite little evidence.
In the end, Apple gets all this negative publicity on Slashdot for no reason at all. I guess MS gets that a lot on here, but I'd expect us to be a bit kinder to our UNIX brothers.
Only when hell freezes over. Oh wait...
Either that or they're doing a heck of a lot of auditing lately. Hopefully they'll find a bunch at once, and be done with it for a while.
But unfortunately from what I've seen from OpenSSH, it appears that we may have another sendmail/wu-ftp/bind type program in terms of security. That is not a good thing, since many services are being changed to use ssh/ssl for transport, leaving us with a single point of (in)security.
This is sure embarassing for the OpenBSD team though. Their code is right now some of the worst in BSD land for security (although in fairness, it is mostly portable ssh that has problems. On OpenBSD, OpenSSH has much cleaner code and is much more secure).
Um, they did as of RedHat 9. They do not call it RedHat 9.0 anymore. I'm pretty sure RedHat 10 will be the next release, unless they decide to call it RedHat X.
I'm just pissed that the WWF (wildlife) wouldn't take money from WWE over the issue. You're a fscking charity, and a billionaire wants to keep using your 3 initials for his company. I think they just might be able to get something for that. If his money isn't good enough for them, why should I donate? I really don't care if they're thw WWF, PWF (panda wildlife fund) or whatever. But if they're going to use donation money to go to court with a big media company instead of settling the case and spending the money on their environmental work, I do care.
If WWE has done a name change and moved on, I'm sure the current WWF could've as well, plus been much the richer for it. Keep the panda, drop or share the initials. No biggie. Stupid WWF.
Bundling products is considered unfair competition. Ever heard of Netscape vs IE? What the hell do you think the antitrust trial was all about? GIving away a product bundled as part of the OS they happen to have a monopoly share with is definately using their monopoly to cause harm to competitors.
Allowing for clients on rival OS's and then suddenly pulling the plug on them could also get them in trouble. Clearly they want to force everyone to use Windows by bundling all of their products together. They call it integration, others call it predatory OS monopoly.
I guess the only point I could add is that homosexuals would also like to be able to start families, although admittedly they need to adopt or have some outside influence to do so (although apparently men are redundant now since they can fertilize an egg with a woman's DNA - I'm too lazy to look up the /. article though). Unfortunately they run into people's notions of marriage and a family that work against them. They feel this is unfair prejudice, and that their sexual preference shouldn't preclude them from taking part in the institutes of marriage and families. Of course these institutions come from thousands of years of human history, so it is difficult to say that prejudice and bigotry are the only factors here.
Now should the institutions of marriage and family be encouraged to broaden themselves to accomodate homosexuals or not? I don't know for sure. As a younger and more liberal person, I'd lean towards yes, but I certainly understand why all don't feel that way. It certainly won't be easy for gays even if they get this benefit though law, since it will take society a long time to adjust to kids with two dads or moms. But considering how many one parent families we have, I'd hope we can get over it, since two parents (no matter what sex they are) have to be better than just one. Plus it is not nice to see the kid suffer b/c of prejudice against his/her parents (some would argue that this is why gays shouldn't adopt or have families, at least not yet).
So is it a progressive society to change our ways, or are we going against 1000s of years of tradition and possibly nature itself? Compromise with legal definitions or change all of society? It seems in the end that no matter what the law says it will be a matter of personal opinion anyhow, so as long as the law treats everyone fairly and justly I don't really care how it is resolved. Not everyone will be pleased no matter what the outcome is. I still think this is mostly a sqaubble over terms anyhow, somewhat a marriage vs Marriage deal. The fact you're quoting definitions from the UN pretty much supports me in that regard, since the UN and Canadian law will likely disagree on that definition of 'marriage' in the near future (even though Canadian law will be mostly referring to little 'm' marriage for taxes, and the UN is referring to big 'M' Marriage as an institution of humanity).
Just wait until we want to legalize polygamy - that'll be an interesting debate. One could argue that polygamy is less out of the ordinary in human history than homosexuality, even though I can't see it being legalized anytime soon. Certainly not before gay marriages/unions.
I've seen the same thing from some Gentoo users. Gentoo has also made installing software from CVS a snap, which doesn't always sit well with certain developers. A lot of relatively clueless users (at least relative to regular CVS users) are working with unreleased code and asking for support, without having the ability to debug or be all that helpful.
But to their credit, the Gentoo user's forum is a great place for support for any Linux issues, not just Gentoo ones. It seems to be full of many more helpful people than most other forums or IRC channels. The user base is generally pretty knowledgeable and helpful with regards to configuration and use of major open source packages.
As for the extreme evangelists, I think it may be due to the fact there are a lot of people that were never quite satisfied with their Linux distro until they tried Gentoo. They maybe get carried away with pushing their new found love on others though, but any distro/OS/product/religion will get that. The Gentoo users I know stop far short of saying that we should install Gentoo on newbie user machines or production servers. They love the system, but know its weaknesses and limitations.
Too bad the Gentoo trollers that do exist are turning people off of the system.
Comparing Pro-Choice to Hitler is not at all fair. Sorry.
Also, your point about "arbitrary stage of development" is very narrow as well. You migth as well start singing "every sperm is sacred!" from Monty Python. One egg and one sperm do not consititue a human being, no matter how much potential for one there may be. I don't see that being any different the moment they join.
Now as to what point a fetus actually is a human being, well that is what is being debated I guess. Arguments that the US Supreme Court took as convincing involved brain activity, although I do realize it is very hard to pick an exact time in the cycle. It is a very grey area.
Some try to make it easier by picking birth as the moment we are human, but how about 2 days before birth? How about c-sections? That doesn't work in reality, it is just convenient. So is picking conception, despite the fact you only have 2 joined cells sitting in a rather warm and wet body cavity. Really you're only one step away from saying that the individual sperm and egg are a human being. What you're really talking about is potential to be a human being, not humanity itself.
I'm not going to say I know the answer or exact time that a fetus becomes human, but I'm not going to be a zealot and take the easy way out either. Sometimes these things aren't meant to be easy to decide. If it were really so morally clear, there wouldn't be so many passionate debates about it.
I forgot to mention that Debian is the basis of Knoppix. People have been doing some really neat things with Knoppix and derivatives. I've given it out as a demo CD to a few people, and now they want me to install Linux to their hard drives.
Having Debian around as a base system for others to build on is really turning out to be a great thing for the community.
Debian still makes a wonderful production server in some situations; something Gentoo really isn't up to doing.
I do think Debian is losing its edge in the developer community though. It used to be that most developers used Debian on their main workstation, but now you are seeing Gentoo mentioned a whole lot. I guess being that Gentoo is bleeding edge and source based, this does make sense.
Debian is also useful as a base for other distributions. Xandros, Lindows and Libranet are all Debian based. Having a nearly LSB compliant and completely Free Software Linux distribution is a good thing. It keeps the other players honest, and forces them to provide real value.
Apt-get continues to be the best solution for package management in Linux. It is being used by some on RPM systems such as Red Hat and SuSe. The only distribution that I believe would not be helped by apt-get is Mandrake, since their own tool urpmi is also very nice. In fact, if Mandrake were ever to go under (which looks very unlikely now), I think you'd see the distribution take on a similar role to Debian in the free software world.
2) Debian will contain the most up-to-date of everything.
My how things have changed.
6) Debian will make Linux easier for users who don't have access to the
Internet.
Debian's main strongpoint is apt-get, which would not be so useful for users with no internet access. The beauty of Debian is that you can install it once and update it forever. Seems Debian's original goals and their current strongpoints are quite different.
Try something called hotwayd. It is a POP gateway to hotmail, so you can use any POP mail client with your hotmail account. I've been using it for a year with KMail and it works great.
There is also something called gotmail I believe which will also do the trick.
Though this is an obvious troll, I'll bite anyhow (maybe not a troll - maybe this is Balmer's idea of being more active in the community ;) ).
Reputable software companies such as Microsoft,
So I suppose Sun, Corel, IBM, Apple, and SGI are not reputable software companies. Hrmm, that was news to me.
Plus, you might want to know that MS ships BSD code in their operating system (do a 'strings' on ftp.exe to see one example), and they sell a set of Unix Services for Windows that uses GPL'd code from GNU.
Basically we'd all be much better of if UNIX hadn't been written on AT&T equipment and company time. Because it was written in their labs using their equipment, they basically took ownership over something they never intended to make or market. The current mess we have with the Open Group and SCO is a direct result of AT&Ts assertion of ownership over UNIX.
If it had been put into public domain or under a BSD style license in the first place, we'd all be much better off right now. In fact, it is likely that Linux would have never become more popular than the BSDs at all, plus the motivation for GNU would've been very minimal in the first place to most people (RMS would not be satisfied with a BSD license, but some others would be).
Things would look a lot different, that is for sure. Not necessarily better though. I'm sure the suits would still ruin things with lawsuits somehow.
Is there any part of the software industry that AOL doesn't have its hands in? How in the hell is Justin going to not compete with AOL?
Other than a few very specialized industries, he's pretty SOL if they actually are able to force a non-compete.
Yes, but since AOL is losing money by the truckload, they basically are now being run by the Time Warner side. That is why they're settling with MS (they need money to make up for losses, and aren't too concerned with AOL's nagging lawsuits).
For all intensive purposes, AOL is now Time Warner, not the other way around. Especially with Steve Case being removed from power.
Hello Michael,
Is there any chance that Lindows will join the Destop Linux Consortium? Has there been any contact between Lindows and this group at all?
I realize that part of the reason the group formed was some due to dissatisfaction over how the Desktop Linux Summit was managed by Lindows, but I do hope that the group would be willing to accept Lindows as a member. Your Desktop Linux Summit really did spark interest in Linux on the Desktop - enough so that these compaines felt that it was time to form a group to take advantage of this interest. I think that it was really great that Lindows took the initiative and put some money into a conference like this, and I really hope that you can work with other vendors to help spur interest in Linux on the Desktop even further (without having to fund most of it by yourselves!).
Oh, by the way, thanks for sponsoring www.kde-look.org.
There are a few different programs that let you do X11 in Windows. The only open source one I know is part of the Cygwin project and can be found at http://cygwin.com/xfree/ . They do not work the same way as VNC though - you don't "view" the desktop that is on the server machine, you start a new desktop using the resources of the server machine (but the drawing is done locally). So each user logged in through X11 can have their own VMWare or Win4Lin.
It looks like the VMWare thing wouldn't be hard to fix for a Linux/Unix admin. If the problem is really as easy to fix as the error message indicates, it'd probably be a few minute job for someone.
Also, I'd still try Win4Lin from http://www.netraverse.com/. It is a lot more lightweight than VMWare, and it allows you to use the Linux filesystem directly instead of having to use a virtual file system inside a file (like VMWare does). I found it integrated into Linux much nicer, plus was a whole boatload faster. It only runs Win98 or WinME however.
If only 1 person will use the software at a time, VNC from a windows box (or remote desktop from Windows XP) would probably be better than running Linux on the server. The VNC server can be installed on Windows, so there is no need to get Linux and emulate Windows in order to use VNC.
Crap, I gotta go - Sorry that this post was rushed...
I'm not sure why VMWare wouldn't work over VNC, but I suppose you could try Win4Lin.
Also, you could install Cygwin's XFree86 on the windows machines and log in to the Linux machine remotely. From there you could run VMWare, Win4Lin, or your program though Wine (if you can get it working).
Of course you could just install your program on a windows box and install TightVNC on it so that everyone could use it remotely in its native environment. Either that, or you could use the Remote Desktop features of Windows XP.
All in all, you're basically taking advantage of the license's wording by using it remotely from other machines. Assumedly they didn't think of that possibility when they wrote their license. Neither did MS once upon a time, but unfortunately I think we'll have a lot more trouble with their EULA's and running software in Wine (we're aleady starting to see this now).