I could go on , but I won't.Those were dreamt up immediately off the top off my head and all seem pretty fine to me. Unless they don't meet with your definition of a large project
The main problem with Mozilla I feel is that which has been touched on by numerous other posters. They started out with a large body of incomplete, uncompileable code with a long closed source history. I find it ironic that they were allegedly convinced to release the code by reading CatB as their actions did not really follow the model outlined in that paper.
The principles of "release early and often" and "debugging is parallelizable" only operate in a truly exponential fashion when they apply to a working system that can then rapidly improve and mutate.
The idea is for an individual or a small group to build a working "thingy" in a more traditional developmental model and then unleash it on the world and into a very rapid test - mutate -release - cycle.
Note that I am not saying that anything that Netscape did was wrong , and I for one am glad that they released the source. I think its only with the last few Moz Milestone releases that we are seeing anything like a program that multiple external people will start to hack on. In fact I predict this will probably only start in earnest after a stable 1.0 release.
Remember the hiatus before the Gimp managed to break the 1.0 barrier ? There's a closer analogy.
The product page for the conference mentions standards compliance and the ".. H.323 and T.120 conference standards...".
Anyone know anything about these standards and how open they are ? And if they are, are there any free software equivalents to this product. And if there are free equivalents couldn't this just be another irrelevant, binary only, "works with RedHat Linux" style port that not many people really need ?
I automatically assumed that it was my keyboard as I have a slightly weird and very old keyboard. Thanks for the suggestion, I shall have a go again tonight and see if it fixes anything.
Sorry if I ruffled your feathers - I merely intended to point out that the article referenced the release of 4.61 , and as I don't follow the progress of Netscape's bugfix releases that closely , added the old news disclaimer as an apologia to all those who already knew about it.
Hopefully they will have included support for a wider range of hardware. The demo disc of the previous release I tried refused to work with my keyboard of all things.
I am slowly building a second box to install BeOS on - I'd love to play with this wonderful looking thing.
It would do a lot more towards "..forcing developers to code to the standard.." if it was annnounced as part of a shipping product.
This probably has more to do with why they were forced into dropping backwards compatability - more of a case of trying to get to market with a complete standard before it all gets a) so fragmented its virtually abandoned b) so extended that its completely under proprietry control
I'm not too surprised. Being a hardware vendor who offers preconfigured server/workstation systems with support and maintenance packages has got to be a 'mini - IBM' business model that traditionally-minded market analysts can readily translate their models to.
Companies like RedHat break this mould a little further - by having a service and support business based around a software product that they don't own and can't really control in a market they can't readily predict.
A little harder for the aforementioned traditionilists to digest perhaps ?
Actually In object oriented programming terms the logical specification of a complex entity is a class and instances of classes are objects.
And its a lousy metaphor - you should have used platonic forms or Jungian archetypes if you wanted to be pretentious and nearly accurate =)
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I hate to post something that will probably be taken for immediate flamebait on slashdot but I find your remark questionable in terms of accuracy..... so
Microsofts JVM - albeit noncompliant has always been quite a decent performer for quite a while - under Windows and MacOS , obviously.
Java performance under linux has historically been pretty bad - I applaud the blackdown porting effort and in fact use it every day but it is slow ( getting better though )- kaffe is not quite 100% there - the cygnus native stuff doesn't cover enough of the class libraries.
We still don't have a full non-beta Java2 implementation across all linux platforms
There is a lot more to advocacy than blindly disclaiming everything that Microsoft produce as bad.
Disclaimer: Scrutty is an avowed hater of Microsoft OS's. He uses Linux every single day both at work and at play. He is in awe of Java as both an OO language and a platform and develops Java Apps on linux. He wishes that Sun would put their cross platform / linux supporting money where their corporate mouth is and produce a kick-ass JIT microthreaded Java 2 JDK for linux.
Your version of patch needs upgrading. This also happened on a Suse6.0 machine next to me here at my workplace. We were scratching our heads for five minutes or so until we noticed Suse6.0 came with patch v2.1. You will need patch v2.5.3
I thought the article was a little flimsy really, but my attention was more focussed on the litle applet to the right. Although it seemed to be running fine the little puck doodad remained stuck to my cursor and wouldn't slide forwards - Anyone else manage ?
I think that the idea of a "generation" as put forward by this posting is perhaps a little hazy. At least it seems that way to me. I count myself at twenty-eight as having seen a huge raft of products and platforms come and go and occasionally see myself slipping into nostalgic old-timer mode, wasn't it great when "blah blah blah... "
Software upgrades aren't generational improvements by their very nature. They're a way for software companies to regenerate fading streams of revenue for legacy products.
Hardware platforms and architectures are evolving and being discarded at what seems like a frightening rate from here, close up by the trees but if you step back a little and look at the whole forest we're not all careering madly along on a technological roller-coaster at all. ( what a mixed metaphor:-) ) People are using information processing appliances and networking facilities in a pretty much gradiated linear evolution dating back to before the telegraph, the calculator and the printing press.
Sure, the techier aspects of the "Information Revolution" seem to be exponentially shooting out everywhere and at a faster and faster rate, but I suspect that this is just because we're slap bang in the middle of the earliest growth stages of a new-ish science / technology offshoot. I imagine the "crazy" proliferation of factories and then railroads around Europe during the Industrial revolution looked very similar to industry observers of the time.
Myself,expect this particular curve to flatten out eventually. From my vantage point evolution seems to go in stop start binges. Overall you can view social / technological innovation as a smooth growth curve. Close-up you can see the wild spikes and line-noise. Its a fractal thing.
Everything changes, everything stays the same
Whilst it is true that many things about your own particular "good old days" of computing were great fun, it is equally true that its great fun now.
Well, forty years is a hell of a lot more time to plan a remedy than Bruce had in the movie.
Maybe enough time for us to move to Mars:-)
CSS a dead technology - XSL the way to go
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I agree that the implementation of CSS in current generation browsers ultimately leaves a lot to be desired. But a full implementation of the standard especially in the form of externally linked style sheets would bring a lot of ease of maintenance to large collections of HTML with little change to existing syntax. I don't think you can write off CSS as a standard just because implementation is not yet perfect. Where are the complete implementations of XSL in shipping products ?
Do you expect them to arrive on desktops and appliances before CSS ?
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Cost too much for a PDA
Took several versions until the handwriting worked accaptably.
Was incompetently marketed
Cost the company a fortune in R and D
Plenty of cool technology in it tho
I could go on , but I won't.Those were dreamt up immediately off the top off my head and all seem pretty fine to me. Unless they don't meet with your definition of a large project
The main problem with Mozilla I feel is that which has been touched on by numerous other posters. They started out with a large body of incomplete, uncompileable code with a long closed source history. I find it ironic that they were allegedly convinced to release the code by reading CatB as their actions did not really follow the model outlined in that paper.
The principles of "release early and often" and "debugging is parallelizable" only operate in a truly exponential fashion when they apply to a working system that can then rapidly improve and mutate.
The idea is for an individual or a small group to build a working "thingy" in a more traditional developmental model and then unleash it on the world and into a very rapid test - mutate -release - cycle.
Note that I am not saying that anything that Netscape did was wrong , and I for one am glad that they released the source. I think its only with the last few Moz Milestone releases that we are seeing anything like a program that multiple external people will start to hack on. In fact I predict this will probably only start in earnest after a stable 1.0 release.
Remember the hiatus before the Gimp managed to break the 1.0 barrier ? There's a closer analogy.
Surely it would have to be Al Gore ?
Anyone know anything about these standards and how open they are ? And if they are, are there any free software equivalents to this product. And if there are free equivalents couldn't this just be another irrelevant, binary only, "works with RedHat Linux" style port that not many people really need ?
I automatically assumed that it was my keyboard as I have a slightly weird and very old keyboard. Thanks for the suggestion, I shall have a go again tonight and see if it fixes anything.
Your comment about 4.06 simply confused me =)
I am slowly building a second box to install BeOS on - I'd love to play with this wonderful looking thing.
The article said 4.61 and so did I. What are you on about ?
This probably has more to do with why they were forced into dropping backwards compatability - more of a case of trying to get to market with a complete standard before it all gets
a) so fragmented its virtually abandoned
b) so extended that its completely under proprietry control
Good luck with shipping guys !
Companies like RedHat break this mould a little further - by having a service and support business based around a software product that they don't own and can't really control in a market they can't readily predict.
A little harder for the aforementioned traditionilists to digest perhaps ?
The article also mentions the release of communicator 4.61 - or is this old news ?
And its a lousy metaphor - you should have used platonic forms or Jungian archetypes if you wanted to be pretentious and nearly accurate =)
There is a lot more to advocacy than blindly disclaiming everything that Microsoft produce as bad.
Disclaimer:
Scrutty is an avowed hater of Microsoft OS's. He uses Linux every single day both at work and at play. He is in awe of Java as both an OO language and a platform and develops Java Apps on linux. He wishes that Sun would put their cross platform / linux supporting money where their corporate mouth is and produce a kick-ass JIT microthreaded Java 2 JDK for linux.
Your version of patch needs upgrading. This also happened on a Suse6.0 machine next to me here at my workplace. We were scratching our heads for five minutes or so until we noticed Suse6.0 came with patch v2.1. You will need patch v2.5.3
I thought the article was a little flimsy really, but my attention was more focussed on the litle applet to the right. Although it seemed to be running fine the little puck doodad remained stuck to my cursor and wouldn't slide forwards - Anyone else manage ?
1)Right Click on image
2)Filters -> Render -> Gfig
3)Select New and then draw a circle or any other polygon that takes your fancy
Since when did my username become a verb ??
Don't forget Zope
Its the first track off the last Radiohead album
"OK Computer"
The track is called "airbag" I I believe
The article mentions that the game doesn't work
with glibc2.1.
Does anyone know if this has been fixed ?
Or If a fix is planned ?
Yes, I know what you mean.
I have a hard disk that looks almost exactly like an oversized can of sardines .
Software upgrades aren't generational improvements by their very nature. They're a way for software companies to regenerate fading streams of revenue for legacy products.
Hardware platforms and architectures are evolving and being discarded at what seems like a frightening rate from here, close up by the trees but if you step back a little and look at the whole forest we're not all careering madly along on a technological roller-coaster at all. ( what a mixed metaphor
Sure, the techier aspects of the "Information Revolution" seem to be exponentially shooting out everywhere and at a faster and faster rate, but I suspect that this is just because we're slap bang in the middle of the earliest growth stages of a new-ish science / technology offshoot. I imagine the "crazy" proliferation of factories and then railroads around Europe during the Industrial revolution looked very similar to industry observers of the time.
Myself,expect this particular curve to flatten out eventually. From my vantage point evolution seems to go in stop start binges. Overall you can view social / technological innovation as a smooth growth curve. Close-up you can see the wild spikes and line-noise. Its a fractal thing.
Everything changes, everything stays the same
Whilst it is true that many things about your own particular "good old days" of computing were great fun, it is equally true that its great fun now.
Well, forty years is a hell of a lot more time to plan a remedy than Bruce had in the movie.
:-)
Maybe enough time for us to move to Mars
Do you expect them to arrive on desktops and appliances before CSS ?