"most of you pimple-faced geeks were not even born yet when the hacking scene got started."
i don't think you were using computer or even born too when the hacker scene began at the MIT (among other places) in the 60's.
"hacking is about social engineering." No, cracking is about social engineering. Kevin Mitnick was a good social engineer and a cracker. "hacking is about computer security" Right... but not about breaking computer securities, about strenghtening them. A hacker can try to crack a computer if a client ask him (that's what is called a samourai) or his own computer or some of his friend computer to try a security error he found in some code but he don't do it every day nor all the day long.
"hacking is not about middle-aged geeks who like to stroke their egos by calling themselves a 'hacker'." Right...those are generally scripts kiddies or lamers calling them hacker instead of cracker. Hacking is about any-aged geek that like to stroke his passion for computing/his ego by doing software available for other people to review. A Hacker is not somebody that call himself hacker, a hacker is somebody that love computer and do software for them and his called hacker by other hackers.
I personnaly love the hacker community and mentality but having contributing nothing to the hacker community at the time I can't be called a Hacker, just a wannabie or a newbie.
This seem to be one of their most succesfull polls.
When you check the past poll the higher responses they had was 5847 and the average is 1500-2000 responses. Now that they are between a Linux-Mac war they are up to 13000 responses (and they already have reset the counter). This is funny to look at this little war.
"A group of hackers that call himself slashdot are being seeked by the FBI because they took down an average of three sites a day.
This group is one of the most numerous, counting no less than many dozen of thousands of hackers who are always working on taking sites down.
The FBI said they cost more than 100Millions of $ in downtime to the society owning the websites they hacked..."
That would be funny if someone would do a satyric article in this style. Anyone has got other ideas to rewrite this or continue this???
BTW: not being myself a hacker (just a wannabe or a newbie) I found it a shame that the mainstream press use this word in this way, I really like this word and don't like to see it used by crackers.
Even if more companies where porting their games to Linux themselves I don't think that it will cause Lokei to disappear. Like they said in an interview their is enough good games to port on Linux to allow many players in this game. And even if every great game was ported under Linux by the original developper they still could do their own games, which is harder and require more money I agree but they probably have now more experience to port game under Linux than any other big software company save Id and that can help.
Even if I don't have a Linux box around me I want to thanks Loki to help us which are both Linux fans and gamers to have more great games on Linux (but srill not enough:().
Having a @slashdot.org address would really be cool, but will Rob have enough H/W and Bandwidth to make it work properly (because I'm there are a lot of people that would be interested)?
I'm French and our country used a lot of nuclear plants. I've recently heard that there may be problems with the Y2k flaw that could compromise the safety of the nuclear plants (hopefully not compromised to the point of causing an explosion but I'm not that reassured either). And if a country like France can have problems with their nuclear system what can whe think about countries less secure like the ones in the ex-USSR?
I wasn't thinking about nuclear plants when i posted my comment (so the word every is false) and I don't think that military systems should be open either. But for more common systems that can cause death the sources should be available.
And for the "Companies that write software programs for life cancelling projects tend to implement huge efforts to test/catch and repair software bugs" i would reply by saying that I have read an article about the American society for routing planes (I don't remenber is name) was discarding his own software because it was an pyramidial software of more than 2 millions of LOC and that they couldn't change it easily. I can say that they have got the wisdom to discard a potential dangerous program but that mean that they made a program where they couldn't repair software bugs in it. I'm not sure that this is the only case of a monolithic software being used in life and death environment, and i'm not sure the others have been discarded when potentially dangerous.
"Perhaps this perspective will allay fears that the whole FSF/OSS model of development might collapse if the GPL were overturned in court, for instance".
One thing that I'm sure to agree in this article is about the power of boycott. Even if the GPL was overturned in court I think that if a company was foolish enough to violate the spirit of the GPL then there would be A LOT of people that will boycott this company (I've heard some time ago about a company that tried to trademark Linux, or something like that, and that was boycotted).
The GPL is the fondation of the philosophy of the FSF (as the BSD license is the fondation of the philosophy of the Berkeley university) but now that this philosophy is shared by a lot of people we have more power even without the GPL. The GPL was a catalyser for this particular philosophy.
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Not only Linux. I have heard that Intel was discussing with the major Unix vendor to port their OS on the Merced. And if this wasn't for the Merced to have many OS soon after he his chipped why would Intel push toward a compatible binary device drivers format that would allow hardware companies to make one driver for every Unix supporting this feature??
They can do a Linux port I think but it will need some work since they said: IBM Custom Processor (Extension of Power PC Architecture)
so this is not a classic power PC but one that will be specifically modified for Nintendo (that's what I understand at least).
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"Some would say that the absence of the GPL is one of the features of BSD".
Some other would say that the absence of the BSD license is one of the feature of Linux.
It depends of what you think about both licenses. I don't like to think that the BSD license allow people to take the software you have written and are just obliged to say "thanks to x for programming this great software that will allow us to make big bucks on it without giving anything back to the community".
The GPL isn't perfect but at least she infect the code so anybody can still make money out of a GPL'd program but he must give something back to the community if he want to improve the program (or to keep the improvment for himself otherwise).
I think that there should be a law to force every software that can cause death if buggy to have is source public so every one can see if there is a flaw that can cause this software to kill people.
Even in the case where nobody else than the original producer of the code can change it (i.e. the code not being truly open source) it would be usefull because people can point out the problems and every slashdot reader is aware of the power of peer review in bug hunt (the harder isn't to fix a bug, it is to track it down).
They could have saved hundreds of thousands on NT but was it computed with the cost involved in BSOD, crashes, rewriting of code that only need a recompilation with Linux,...
I'm sure that it would have cost more than what they planned if they had used NT.
That's not the same spelling. The German spelling is bitte and not bite.
Whe, French people, can say that Nike when pronounced with the French accent is the same sound that a French slang word that mean to fuck (niquer), so www.nike.com should not be renewed:)
"Obviously, Microsoft was selling a broken operating system until June of 1998"
You're wrong, they have been selling broken OS'es for longer than June of 1998. Win 98 isn't Y2K compliant and the first patch issued by M$ that should have made Win98 Y2K compliant was broken. So, you have got a company that sell you a product that has less than a year of life before being useless.
I disagree with you. This is an easy way to go but this is the way of exclusion of everybody thatis different. It remenber me those photos of the America of the sixties where you can see some toilets marked "white" and other marked "colored" or something like that. It reminds me of the ghettos that were made during the second world war to park the jews.
I know that American people generally prefer to use the "salad bowl" model for integrating people but I prefer the "melting pot" model where you melt everybody and don't do a Chinatown, a Little Italy. It's cool to be between people we understand but it only lead to violence when many of these groups meet together (like in LA a few years ago).
I really think that the only possible solution in the long run is to educate people to learn of each others differences.
No, geeks are not learning that PROFILING IS BAD. Most of us already know this and have known this for years but now they are talking.
I think that your post is very interesting because it points out that this problem isn't geek centered or gothic centered but it also concern avery people that is different than the mainstream in any way (skin color/religion/clothes/...) and the problem is intolerance in general.
The only way to go through this is to learn to our children not to fear people being different and not to hate them but to learn from their differences. The world is full of differences and that is what makes is wealth.
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Sorry but you're wrong. There can be only one window manager running on the same display at one time.
What you have is Afterstep as a window manager and the gnome panel as an application. It is true that the Kde menu can be accessed via the foot button of the Gnome panel but this doesn't mean that Kde is running, simply that the Gnome panel can interpret the Kde menu entries.
I haven't code for free software at the time but certainly will do it (i love this community) and Iin the same case I would do something like that.
Post the story of the company that violate the GPL on slashdot and on a lot of newsgroup and call them to slashdot their servers, to boycott their products and to write emails to them and to the madia. I think that if the steal is about a project we are proud of (like the Gimp) the effect would be very impressive (It probably would make the headline of many newspapers if thousands of people were writting them something like that).
I think that is definitely the thing to do, and after two or three case there would be few company to try to do it again.
This remind me of the witch trials in europa a few centuries ago but although it reminds me of the spanish inquisition (don't know the english word) and all the communist hunt in America after the second world war (McCarthy) and that remind me of the pogroms made in Russia against the Jew last century and "the final solution" made by Hitler.
That's sad human can not learn to accept each other differences and end up with hating other people that don't fit in their perception of the world.
I have a question. Is there any decoder or any encoder for the vqf format freely available (at least like in beer, but I would prefer like in speech) under Linux???
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"most of you pimple-faced geeks were not even born yet when the hacking scene got started."
i don't think you were using computer or even born too when the hacker scene began at the MIT (among other places) in the 60's.
"hacking is about social engineering."
No, cracking is about social engineering. Kevin Mitnick was a good social engineer and a cracker.
"hacking is about computer security"
Right... but not about breaking computer securities, about strenghtening them. A hacker can try to crack a computer if a client ask him (that's what is called a samourai) or his own computer or some of his friend computer to try a security error he found in some code but he don't do it every day nor all the day long.
"hacking is not about middle-aged geeks who like to stroke their egos by calling themselves a 'hacker'."
Right...those are generally scripts kiddies or lamers calling them hacker instead of cracker. Hacking is about any-aged geek that like to stroke his passion for computing/his ego by doing software available for other people to review. A Hacker is not somebody that call himself hacker, a hacker is somebody that love computer and do software for them and his called hacker by other hackers.
I personnaly love the hacker community and mentality but having contributing nothing to the hacker community at the time I can't be called a Hacker, just a wannabie or a newbie.
This seem to be one of their most succesfull polls.
When you check the past poll the higher responses they had was 5847 and the average is 1500-2000 responses. Now that they are between a Linux-Mac war they are up to 13000 responses (and they already have reset the counter). This is funny to look at this little war.
Heu man, can't they understand that techie and gamer aren't incompatible???
Why should people be profiled in just one category???
"A group of hackers that call himself slashdot are being seeked by the FBI because they took down an average of three sites a day.
This group is one of the most numerous, counting no less than many dozen of thousands of hackers who are always working on taking sites down.
The FBI said they cost more than 100Millions of $ in downtime to the society owning the websites they hacked..."
That would be funny if someone would do a satyric article in this style. Anyone has got other ideas to rewrite this or continue this???
BTW: not being myself a hacker (just a wannabe or a newbie) I found it a shame that the mainstream press use this word in this way, I really like this word and don't like to see it used by crackers.
Why wouldn't Gnome be described as an OS???
Microsoft have been able to make people believe that windows9x was an OS too.
Even if more companies where porting their games to Linux themselves I don't think that it will cause Lokei to disappear. Like they said in an interview their is enough good games to port on Linux to allow many players in this game. And even if every great game was ported under Linux by the original developper they still could do their own games, which is harder and require more money I agree but they probably have now more experience to port game under Linux than any other big software company save Id and that can help.
Even if I don't have a Linux box around me I want to thanks Loki to help us which are both Linux fans and gamers to have more great games on Linux (but srill not enough
Having a @slashdot.org address would really be cool, but will Rob have enough H/W and Bandwidth to make it work properly (because I'm there are a lot of people that would be interested)?
hey Rob, wouldn't it be cool to have a page relating Slashdot'history?
And I didn't wanted to flood your E-mail with on more mail but "Happy birthday" and keep doing a great work.
thanks
I'm French and our country used a lot of nuclear plants. I've recently heard that there may be problems with the Y2k flaw that could compromise the safety of the nuclear plants (hopefully not compromised to the point of causing an explosion but I'm not that reassured either). And if a country like France can have problems with their nuclear system what can whe think about countries less secure like the ones in the ex-USSR?
I wasn't thinking about nuclear plants when i posted my comment (so the word every is false) and I don't think that military systems should be open either. But for more common systems that can cause death the sources should be available.
And for the "Companies that write software programs for life cancelling projects tend to implement huge efforts to test/catch and repair software bugs" i would reply by saying that I have read an article about the American society for routing planes (I don't remenber is name) was discarding his own software because it was an pyramidial software of more than 2 millions of LOC and that they couldn't change it easily. I can say that they have got the wisdom to discard a potential dangerous program but that mean that they made a program where they couldn't repair software bugs in it. I'm not sure that this is the only case of a monolithic software being used in life and death environment, and i'm not sure the others have been discarded when potentially dangerous.
"Perhaps this perspective will allay fears that the whole FSF/OSS model of development might collapse if the GPL were overturned in court, for instance".
One thing that I'm sure to agree in this article is about the power of boycott. Even if the GPL was overturned in court I think that if a company was foolish enough to violate the spirit of the GPL then there would be A LOT of people that will boycott this company (I've heard some time ago about a company that tried to trademark Linux, or something like that, and that was boycotted).
The GPL is the fondation of the philosophy of the FSF (as the BSD license is the fondation of the philosophy of the Berkeley university) but now that this philosophy is shared by a lot of people we have more power even without the GPL. The GPL was a catalyser for this particular philosophy.
Not only Linux. I have heard that Intel was discussing with the major Unix vendor to port their OS on the Merced. And if this wasn't for the Merced to have many OS soon after he his chipped why would Intel push toward a compatible binary device drivers format that would allow hardware companies to make one driver for every Unix supporting this feature??
They can do a Linux port I think but it will need some work since they said:
IBM Custom Processor (Extension of Power PC Architecture)
so this is not a classic power PC but one that will be specifically modified for Nintendo (that's what I understand at least).
"Some would say that the absence of the GPL is one of the features of BSD".
Some other would say that the absence of the BSD license is one of the feature of Linux.
It depends of what you think about both licenses. I don't like to think that the BSD license allow people to take the software you have written and are just obliged to say "thanks to x for programming this great software that will allow us to make big bucks on it without giving anything back to the community".
The GPL isn't perfect but at least she infect the code so anybody can still make money out of a GPL'd program but he must give something back to the community if he want to improve the program (or to keep the improvment for himself otherwise).
I think that there should be a law to force every software that can cause death if buggy to have is source public so every one can see if there is a flaw that can cause this software to kill people.
Even in the case where nobody else than the original producer of the code can change it (i.e. the code not being truly open source) it would be usefull because people can point out the problems and every slashdot reader is aware of the power of peer review in bug hunt (the harder isn't to fix a bug, it is to track it down).
They could have saved hundreds of thousands on NT but was it computed with the cost involved in BSOD, crashes, rewriting of code that only need a recompilation with Linux,...
I'm sure that it would have cost more than what they planned if they had used NT.
That's not the same spelling. The German spelling is bitte and not bite.
Whe, French people, can say that Nike when pronounced with the French accent is the same sound that a French slang word that mean to fuck (niquer), so www.nike.com should not be renewed
"Obviously, Microsoft was selling a broken operating system until June of 1998"
You're wrong, they have been selling broken OS'es for longer than June of 1998. Win 98 isn't Y2K compliant and the first patch issued by M$ that should have made Win98 Y2K compliant was broken. So, you have got a company that sell you a product that has less than a year of life before being useless.
I disagree with you. This is an easy way to go but this is the way of exclusion of everybody thatis different. It remenber me those photos of the America of the sixties where you can see some toilets marked "white" and other marked "colored" or something like that. It reminds me of the ghettos that were made during the second world war to park the jews.
I know that American people generally prefer to use the "salad bowl" model for integrating people but I prefer the "melting pot" model where you melt everybody and don't do a Chinatown, a Little Italy. It's cool to be between people we understand but it only lead to violence when many of these groups meet together (like in LA a few years ago).
I really think that the only possible solution in the long run is to educate people to learn of each others differences.
No, geeks are not learning that PROFILING IS BAD. Most of us already know this and have known this for years but now they are talking.
I think that your post is very interesting because it points out that this problem isn't geek centered or gothic centered but it also concern avery people that is different than the mainstream in any way (skin color/religion/clothes/...) and the problem is intolerance in general.
The only way to go through this is to learn to our children not to fear people being different and not to hate them but to learn from their differences. The world is full of differences and that is what makes is wealth.
Sorry but you're wrong. There can be only one window manager running on the same display at one time.
What you have is Afterstep as a window manager and the gnome panel as an application. It is true that the Kde menu can be accessed via the foot button of the Gnome panel but this doesn't mean that Kde is running, simply that the Gnome panel can interpret the Kde menu entries.
I haven't code for free software at the time but certainly will do it (i love this community) and Iin the same case I would do something like that.
Post the story of the company that violate the GPL on slashdot and on a lot of newsgroup and call them to slashdot their servers, to boycott their products and to write emails to them and to the madia. I think that if the steal is about a project we are proud of (like the Gimp) the effect would be very impressive (It probably would make the headline of many newspapers if thousands of people were writting them something like that).
I think that is definitely the thing to do, and after two or three case there would be few company to try to do it again.
At least Intel has made a great innovation in the seventies. Haven't they invented the microprocessor??
Do you know what is www.netcraft.com???
for people who know what it is :
www.businessweek.com is running Netscape-Enterprise/2.01 on Solaris
This remind me of the witch trials in europa a few centuries ago but although it reminds me of the spanish inquisition (don't know the english word) and all the communist hunt in America after the second world war (McCarthy) and that remind me of the pogroms made in Russia against the Jew last century and "the final solution" made by Hitler.
That's sad human can not learn to accept each other differences and end up with hating other people that don't fit in their perception of the world.
VQF isn't it?
I have a question. Is there any decoder or any encoder for the vqf format freely available
(at least like in beer, but I would prefer like in speech) under Linux???