I think you need to go over what a corporation actually is again. If board members and directors are found "personally liable" then why bother incorporating in the first place?
Which is why corporations, directed by people who are not held accountable other than to their shareholders who care nothing about anything but money, do whatever the fuck they like and more often then not get away with it.
Or maybe, just MAYBE, they are afraid of being lumped in with the clueless bunch that are brandishing the term 'cyber' for everything, like it was some demented talisman to ward against evil net spirits.
I mean everybody knows that a 'CyberSecurity Specialist' is only a small and mostly accidental step away from a 'CyberBully', or 'CyberTerrorist', or OMG!!! Cyborg!!!
"Why yes, I'm a Terminator for the NSA, DHS, and in my spare time, the FBI and CIA! I'm a hit at all the parties!"
Or security for that matter - i.e. security guard, mall cop...tsa, etc...
This might be news on domestic flights but a few years back, arriving in LA from Australia, I was actually directly offered to step out of the international queue (I'm Canadian, but was with my Australian partner) to go into the US queue _without identifying myself_, that is I was directly solicited without volunteering any information about my nationality first.
Sure, they could have overheard my accent. But, on several other occasions I and my Australian partner arrived at the same time, with the same itineraries and the same bookings, and she always got SSSS and I didn't. I don't think I just got a pass for being Canadian. There has to have been more to it than that.
I practically died with joy the first time I got to use a pre-check lane. Kept my coat, shoes, and belt on, didn't take shit out of my bags. It almost justified the 8 hours it took me to get a global entry card (drive to boston, wait, talk to beurocrats about how I'm not a threat, drive back to vermont).
Why should you have to do this anyway? Guilty until proven innocent?
On top of that it's stupid - what if you become a threat after you have this card?
There is no justification for increased surveillance of American citizens inside national borders anyway. This is all about money for private contractors sucking the blood of American taxpayers.
I hope that when american corporations start seeing their customers scared away by this 1984 crap they'll turn their lobbying powers to reverse the trend.
Isn't this how politics work in the US, the country that legalized bribery?
You mean the multinational companies who base themselves wherever and no longer pay tax?
They'll just leave the US and follow their customer base.
It is idiotic to make statements without backing them up with citations. I provided a link, which is based off a wikileaks cable release. Here's another article for you.
"Mr. Marion, who was appointed to head the French secret service in 1981 by President François Mitterrand, acknowledged that France spied on American companies, including IBM, Texas Instruments and Corning, that were involved in competition with French state-owned enterprises. "
I am aware that you posted a link - the quote I pasted was from your posted link and I give that company CEO's statement as much validity as anything that any CEO says. None at all because they say whatever they have to say to achieve some business goal - and it can have nothing to do with reality.
I never said that France doesn't spy. I said that it's stupid to claim that they do more industrial espionage than China.
France is 5% Muslim, and given how feral and out-of-control their minorities are, I'd say they're fair game.
Ah, spoken like a true American who feels entitled to be a douchebag.
When the rest of the world decides they're tired of your shit, you can likely expect to see a backlash against the US.
I can see governments basically saying "we're not buying your stuff, we're not hosting your bases, we're sure as hell not working with you and we don't give a fuck".
America likes to think their interests trump everyone else's. But I see a time coming where other governments start saying "fuck you".
Take it easy mate..being a douchebag is the only right we have left...
I'm an American, so I'll admit that I couldn't find Experia on a map if I tried, but this is an outrage and I say we start bombing the Experians back to the stone age right now!
Even though Experian was selling the info, only the people who bought it will get punished.
It's up to you people, the fuckees, to file a class action lawsuit against Experian, the fuckers, for selling your private information without your express permission.
Actually, I know many families that can't make enough to afford a computer but make too much to get free health insurance... or even reduced price lunches for their kids...
Not everyone on slashdot makes a great living... Some of us are just getting by...
Okay...but going with these do these families not know anyone with a computer they could use for a bit to do whatever applying they need to?
This kind of stuck nowhere situation really sucks. It's truly depressing to see America heading full steam ahead to being a third world country.
Seriously? You're going to reference The Examiner for the park ranger quote? Come on.
Pick your side of the news (CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, BBC, Al-Jazeera) and repeat the quote.
I don't think there is an unbiased news source out there left in the world. A touch of fact with a huge helping of opinion equals news now days.
I did a quick search for the park ranger quote before I posted and I didn't see any of the sites you list. I did see the examiner - top of the search results - and I don't put much stock in them as a news source at all, never mind unbiased.
Silly question, but... what happens when you want to apply and you don't have a computer ? Surely, by definition, a sizable portion of the population that requires Obamacare doesn't necessarily have the means to have a computer or an internet connection.
And no, "anybody has a computer these days" is not an answer. I know plenty of people who don't have enough to feed themselves, let alone buy a computer - let alone one that's recent enough to cope with plugins that invariably tell you "your operating system / browser is not supported anymore, please upgrade." every 6 months.
If they can't afford a computer then they're most likely already on title 19 medical and don't need Obamacare.
So now Obama can agree to a later start of Obamacare without losing his face: He'll not give in to the Republicans, but just react to deficiencies in the technology.
To add insult to injury, the administration decided to take down the Amber Alerts website, blaming the shutdown, but Michelle Obama's "Let's Move" website is still up. They shut down the PX at Andrews AFB and the WW2 Memorial on the National Mall to WW2 vets, but the golf course at Andrews AFB, which Obama likes, is still open, as is the one at Camp David. Funny what this administration considers "essential".
For this administration it's about not compromising and punishing the American people for supporting their opposition. The pain they intentionally inflict they hope will convince most people to force the opposition to give in. A Park Services Ranger was quoted as saying they were told to make life as painful as possible for people.
"Tell your Senator/Representatives to cave or this kitten (or abducted child that won't show up on the shut-down Amber Alert website) gets it."
1. Nudge
2. Shove
3. Shoot
They are past "Nudge" and are now well into "Shove"...with scattered, mostly kept low-key (for now), but increasingly-numerous incidents where "Shoot" is starting to be employed.
The USA is frighteningly-close to tumbling into full totalitarianism.
Strat
Seriously? You're going to reference The Examiner for the park ranger quote? Come on.
For the rest Reuters has a good explanation of why parts of the government are hit by the shutdown and other parts continue unaffected, the explanation being that the parts that get funding from Congress stop and those and which are funded otherwise continue to function. In the case of the Andrews AFB golf course, for example, it's funded by user fees and is not reliant upon Congress for budget.
Eeeh... all that said, I don't trade in bitcoins and I think the entire business is silly but if we're going to talk turkey, we should at least be accurate in our assessments.
Not sure that bitcoins are any less real than a lot of the rest of the crap that people trade in the markets.
So, basically, any machine that flies and is remotely operated is a drone nowadays? This 'drone' word is being way overused.
It does actually fit the definition: 1 : a stingless male bee (as of the honeybee) that has the role of mating with the queen and does not gather nectar or pollen 2 : one that lives on the labors of others : parasite 3 : an unmanned aircraft or ship guided by remote control
Understandable that he shut down. The USA is ruled by evil bastards that have no respect for the citizens. Time to revolt is now.
It's basically your fault there will be no revolution because you decided not to put an exclamation point which, very appropriately,sums up the attitude of most Americans about anything other than sports, shitty beer and big tits.
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I think you need to go over what a corporation actually is again. If board members and directors are found "personally liable" then why bother incorporating in the first place?
Which is why corporations, directed by people who are not held accountable other than to their shareholders who care nothing about anything but money, do whatever the fuck they like and more often then not get away with it.
Or maybe, just MAYBE, they are afraid of being lumped in with the clueless bunch that are brandishing the term 'cyber' for everything, like it was some demented talisman to ward against evil net spirits.
I mean everybody knows that a 'CyberSecurity Specialist' is only a small and mostly accidental step away from a 'CyberBully', or 'CyberTerrorist', or OMG!!! Cyborg!!!
"Why yes, I'm a Terminator for the NSA, DHS, and in my spare time, the FBI and CIA! I'm a hit at all the parties!"
Or security for that matter - i.e. security guard, mall cop...tsa, etc...
This might be news on domestic flights but a few years back, arriving in LA from Australia, I was actually directly offered to step out of the international queue (I'm Canadian, but was with my Australian partner) to go into the US queue _without identifying myself_, that is I was directly solicited without volunteering any information about my nationality first.
Sure, they could have overheard my accent. But, on several other occasions I and my Australian partner arrived at the same time, with the same itineraries and the same bookings, and she always got SSSS and I didn't. I don't think I just got a pass for being Canadian. There has to have been more to it than that.
Isn't Canada part of the US anyway?
I practically died with joy the first time I got to use a pre-check lane. Kept my coat, shoes, and belt on, didn't take shit out of my bags. It almost justified the 8 hours it took me to get a global entry card (drive to boston, wait, talk to beurocrats about how I'm not a threat, drive back to vermont).
Why should you have to do this anyway? Guilty until proven innocent?
On top of that it's stupid - what if you become a threat after you have this card?
There is no justification for increased surveillance of American citizens inside national borders anyway. This is all about money for private contractors sucking the blood of American taxpayers.
I hope that when american corporations start seeing their customers scared away by this 1984 crap they'll turn their lobbying powers to reverse the trend.
Isn't this how politics work in the US, the country that legalized bribery?
You mean the multinational companies who base themselves wherever and no longer pay tax?
They'll just leave the US and follow their customer base.
It is idiotic to make statements without backing them up with citations. I provided a link, which is based off a wikileaks cable release. Here's another article for you.
"Mr. Marion, who was appointed to head the French secret service in 1981 by President François Mitterrand, acknowledged that France spied on American companies, including IBM, Texas Instruments and Corning, that were involved in competition with French state-owned enterprises. "
I am aware that you posted a link - the quote I pasted was from your posted link and I give that company CEO's statement as much validity as anything that any CEO says. None at all because they say whatever they have to say to achieve some business goal - and it can have nothing to do with reality.
I never said that France doesn't spy. I said that it's stupid to claim that they do more industrial espionage than China.
Friendly? France is well known for its industrial espionage.
"...the head of a German company was quoted as saying..."
And how fucking accurate do you assume this statement to be?
It is idiotic to claim that France is worse than China for industrial espionage.
Ah, spoken like a true American who feels entitled to be a douchebag.
When the rest of the world decides they're tired of your shit, you can likely expect to see a backlash against the US.
I can see governments basically saying "we're not buying your stuff, we're not hosting your bases, we're sure as hell not working with you and we don't give a fuck".
America likes to think their interests trump everyone else's. But I see a time coming where other governments start saying "fuck you".
Take it easy mate..being a douchebag is the only right we have left...
I'm an American, so I'll admit that I couldn't find Experia on a map if I tried, but this is an outrage and I say we start bombing the Experians back to the stone age right now!
Did you look on Expedia?
Even though Experian was selling the info, only the people who bought it will get punished.
It's up to you people, the fuckees, to file a class action lawsuit against Experian, the fuckers, for selling your private information without your express permission.
Want it to stop? Make it stop.
Australians; we buy insurance to cover the free healthcare.
Actually, we buy insurance to buy better healthcare than the free stuff.
In France we buy insurance to cover the small co-pay.
Let's see...Federal anti-terrorism money used to surveil American citizens.
What else is new?
This is what happens when ignorant people make poor decisions:
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/measles-outbreak-tied-texas-megachurch-sickens-21-8C11009315
To the twat who labeled my post offtopic - the link references a measles (thus part of MMR) outbreak in Texas due to people refusing to get immunized.
Very much on topic.
This is what happens when ignorant people make poor decisions:
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/measles-outbreak-tied-texas-megachurch-sickens-21-8C11009315
Voting out all the incumbents.
We could call it 10/12...
When Obama vetoes this, will it still be Bush's fault?
The guy who created it, or the guy who didn't get rid of it? Yes, it's Bush's fault for giving Obama such a nasty toy to play with.
It's not mutually exclusive. One is at fault for allowing it in the first place and the other is at fault for allowing it to continue.
Actually, I know many families that can't make enough to afford a computer but make too much to get free health insurance... or even reduced price lunches for their kids...
Not everyone on slashdot makes a great living... Some of us are just getting by...
Okay...but going with these do these families not know anyone with a computer they could use for a bit to do whatever applying they need to?
This kind of stuck nowhere situation really sucks. It's truly depressing to see America heading full steam ahead to being a third world country.
Seriously? You're going to reference The Examiner for the park ranger quote? Come on.
Pick your side of the news (CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC, BBC, Al-Jazeera) and repeat the quote.
I don't think there is an unbiased news source out there left in the world. A touch of fact with a huge helping of opinion equals news now days.
I did a quick search for the park ranger quote before I posted and I didn't see any of the sites you list. I did see the examiner - top of the search results - and I don't put much stock in them as a news source at all, never mind unbiased.
Silly question, but... what happens when you want to apply and you don't have a computer ? Surely, by definition, a sizable portion of the population that requires Obamacare doesn't necessarily have the means to have a computer or an internet connection.
And no, "anybody has a computer these days" is not an answer. I know plenty of people who don't have enough to feed themselves, let alone buy a computer - let alone one that's recent enough to cope with plugins that invariably tell you "your operating system / browser is not supported anymore, please upgrade." every 6 months.
If they can't afford a computer then they're most likely already on title 19 medical and don't need Obamacare.
So now Obama can agree to a later start of Obamacare without losing his face: He'll not give in to the Republicans, but just react to deficiencies in the technology.
To add insult to injury, the administration decided to take down the Amber Alerts website, blaming the shutdown, but Michelle Obama's "Let's Move" website is still up. They shut down the PX at Andrews AFB and the WW2 Memorial on the National Mall to WW2 vets, but the golf course at Andrews AFB, which Obama likes, is still open, as is the one at Camp David. Funny what this administration considers "essential".
For this administration it's about not compromising and punishing the American people for supporting their opposition. The pain they intentionally inflict they hope will convince most people to force the opposition to give in. A Park Services Ranger was quoted as saying they were told to make life as painful as possible for people.
"Tell your Senator/Representatives to cave or this kitten (or abducted child that won't show up on the shut-down Amber Alert website) gets it."
1. Nudge
2. Shove
3. Shoot
They are past "Nudge" and are now well into "Shove"...with scattered, mostly kept low-key (for now), but increasingly-numerous incidents where "Shoot" is starting to be employed.
The USA is frighteningly-close to tumbling into full totalitarianism.
Strat
Seriously? You're going to reference The Examiner for the park ranger quote? Come on.
For the rest Reuters has a good explanation of why parts of the government are hit by the shutdown and other parts continue unaffected, the explanation being that the parts that get funding from Congress stop and those and which are funded otherwise continue to function. In the case of the Andrews AFB golf course, for example, it's funded by user fees and is not reliant upon Congress for budget.
Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-03/troops-forage-for-food-while-golfers-play-on-in-shutdown.html
But hell...don't let details get in the way of your rant...
DOH!!
Eeeh... all that said, I don't trade in bitcoins and I think the entire business is silly but if we're going to talk turkey, we should at least be accurate in our assessments.
Not sure that bitcoins are any less real than a lot of the rest of the crap that people trade in the markets.
So you're going to make the drones go away by adding more government?
So you're going to make the government go away by adding more government?
So you're governmenting to make the government go government by governmenting government government?
Government government government government government government government government government government government government government?
I'm an anarchocapitalist!
Damn I should have thought of that when I chose my pseudo...
So, basically, any machine that flies and is remotely operated is a drone nowadays? This 'drone' word is being way overused.
It does actually fit the definition:
1
: a stingless male bee (as of the honeybee) that has the role of mating with the queen and does not gather nectar or pollen
2
: one that lives on the labors of others : parasite
3
: an unmanned aircraft or ship guided by remote control
Source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/drone
Understandable that he shut down.
The USA is ruled by evil bastards that have no respect for the citizens.
Time to revolt is now.
It's basically your fault there will be no revolution because you decided not to put an exclamation point which, very appropriately,sums up the attitude of most Americans about anything other than sports, shitty beer and big tits.