First manufacturing was destroyed, and the economy is still barely adjusting.
Manufacturing was not destroyed. We (USA) manufacture as much as we ever did. It is just that manufacturing is much more automated today, so manufacturing employment is down.
What is your source that we manufacture as much as we ever did? Does it take into account population growth?
Whats left for 300 million people to do?
They could spend their time reading about economic fallacies. Prosperity and economic growth come from more efficient production of goods and services. Not from "keeping people busy."
When you automate, and you send manufacturing overseas to countries like China, and you outsource a significant portion of service jobs to countries like India, the total number of jobs available in the country is decreased by some percentage. If the population quantity is fixed or growing, and the number of jobs available is shrinking, then unemployment is going to increase. Prosperity and economic growth only count for people who have jobs or who own companies.
Interesting times indeed.
Seems more like a slightly interesting continuation of a process that started with the invention of agriculture (destroying hunter-gather jobs).
The difference being the rate at which the quantify of jobs decreases. There's nothing wrong with automation. There's nothing wrong with having goods manufactured overseas. There's nothing wrong with outsourcing service jobs overseas. The problem is that when you combine the effects of all three and the decrease of jobs rate is uncontrolled then you can lose enough jobs fast enough that the economy as a whole is impacted. When the economy as a whole is impacted, new job creation is impacted.
Overall salaries will drop as well, as the total number of jobs has dropped and a larger number of people are competing for the same quantity of jobs or are competing for those same jobs that went overseas (ie call centers, which are coming back to the US to some degree) and must be ready to take a much lower salary than they would if said jobs hadn't been sent overseas to start with.
The Yuan has not actually been allowed to float. There are different Chinese currencies for different reasons, all of which are still controlled. Wikipedia has a good overview here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renminbi#Value
I'd like to know your source references for the following two points:
- We manufacture 60% of all globally produced goods..."
- "Many companies are now pulling out of China..."
With regard to finding work that can't be outsourced, you are right in that there are jobs that cannot be outsourced but once too high a percentage of jobs are outsourced people will shift into those jobs driving wages down.
We have free health care. It's called WebMD. Remove prescription requirements for non-narcotics and you eliminate 80-90% of health care demand.
You're probably right if for no other reason than subsequent deaths due to misdiagnosis and mistreatment.
You can't actually believe that people can successfully act as doctors for themselves and their families without any education or training whatsoever?
Even if they could, with any degree of accuracy, you're still ignoring all the medical support systems like x-rays, any physical intervention (ie setting bones, operations of any type, long term care, etc.
You can power them from satellites rather than ground based - you'll escape all the dust and much of the atmospheric crap, and your power will be free from the sun. Park a satellite over the Middle East and you have LOS everywhere.
And if you miss the little flying drone and happen to fry some people on the ground...oh well, shit happens...
I don't see anything in your reference that says antibiotic.
My understanding is that a vaccine is a controlled exposure to a living or dead form of the disease that the body is able to fight off in order to trigger immune response in the immunized person resulting in antibodies that stay in that person, thus immunizing them. This doesn't put the bacteria through the Darwinistic survival of the fittest that is the result of antibiotic use against bacterial infections and so no, I continue to believe that use of vaccines has nothing to do with the increase of antibiotic resistant bacteria.
Maybe, maybe not - it seems to me that you are the exception and that the brush is not too wide. I did not claim that it was 100% of those on slashdot and I think that most people on slashdot are supporters of pirating.
I hate relative terms when there is no indication as to what the term is relative to. For example, if the second worst outbreak in the last 20 years involved 80 people then this one could be the worst and involve 99 people.
What I would rather see is how important is this outbreak. The fact that it is the worst in 20 years does not mean that it is something to be concerned with. The questions to ask are as follows; 1. How much of the population is at risk? 2. Would spreading the information cause more harm than good. Will the populous be more frightened that necessary.
The 13 death tole can be misleading too. Are most of the deaths in people who live on the streets, avoid contact with health facilities and have compromised immune systems. I am not saying to ignore them but health warnings would not help as they would be ignored.
3. Should the politicians who closed the TB hospital and then buried the TB outbreak for political reasons be held accountable?
The medical side of this is not the only consideration here.
When you copy and paste an entire paragraph from a linked source without actually citing that source as the author of said material, you're committing plagiarism. NotSanguine did not write this blurb; Muriel Kane of Raw Story did.
Respect authorship.
Funny how slashdot is up in arms over plagiarism and yet thinks (generally speaking) that pirating copyrighted material is for the common good.
Florida just closed down it's only state hospital specializing in tuberculosis cases on July 2nd. Bad timing.
Timing had nothing to do with it. It was politics. That's the problem with cutting back on social programs: They stabilize the quality of life for the general population. Take them away, and they're now subject to the random, chaotic, and violent twists of unbridled capitalism. And combine poor economic conditions with an outbreak of plague... and if you don't have any social support programs, well... grab a mirror so you can properly bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.
It's the same thing with unemployment insurance and food stamps, and other forms of economic assistance; During times of economic prosperity, these services go largely unused, so they can stockpile funding for periods of economic downturn, and in so doing, moderate the highs and lows inherent in a capitalist system. What's even stupider about this: All the social programs, health care, welfare, unemployment insurance... all of it, would be amply funded without costing a single taxpayer dollar if during those aforementioned periods of economic prosperity, the unused funding for those programs was diverted into investments. Spain has a robust social security program; Every person in the country is guaranteed social security. You know how much they pay into the system for that? Nothing. Nodda.
Short term thinking, people. It'll fuck you every time.
Yep, we just need the good old CDC and Health Departments that actually ensured everyone got a Small Pox Vaccine. My Evil half just wants this to result in a highly contagious version that is Antibiotic Resistant and make it so everyone has to get the TB Vaccine. The irony of a disease coming into existence from this kind of nieve plot to kill innocent people. Really, the "Lets do nothing and let the Poor Die" plan doesn't work. Then again a lot of people will have to die for us just to relearn the lesson that Small Pox taught us.
Vaccines are not anti-biotics so this shouldn't be related.
Also, it's not 'Let's do nothing and let the poor die". It's "Let's get ourselves and our families immunized and we won't think about the poor because it's their own fault that they're poor in this wonderful country of opportunity"./ironyoff
I know that it is used but that doesn't mean that it should be used.
The solution isn't to allow USB usage, but to find a secure way to transfer files. FTP should be migrated to SCP with whatever level of authentication and virus/trojan/malware checking is required by the organization in question.
The company should have disabled USB ports on all company computers anyway. Inconvenient, yes, but necessary in this day and age.
Doesn't address the newly popular (due to continuing stupid expense reductions) of BYOD where of course USB ports will remain open, but as BYOD is a security nightmare anyway...
The cloud provider effectively has physical access to your machine, which is game over for any sort of security. Even if you use full disk encryption, you're going to have to decrypt it, and that means your key will be in RAM. A motivated spy in the cloud provider would have little trouble dumping your VM's RAM and decrypting everything.
You might be able to get away with running machines locally, and using the cloud for storage, if you encrypt everything locally and only store encrypted data in the cloud. But that removes most of the benefits of using the cloud in the first place.
You could still 'cloud' anything not sensitive, and keep anything considered sensitive local -
That is probably true - I deal with a number of manufacturers from China on a daily basis and none of them are really concerned about cloning a competitor's product for us if we desire it. I just found it funny is all.
Well then, probably serves you right if you find out that they're cloning your product as well...
You want security, or you want convenience? You cannot have both.
I have a dongle for my business account and I sleep well at night. I even have a soft token on my phone for by Blizzard account. It's not so complicated, and I really don't mind.
Slashdot Mirror
First manufacturing was destroyed, and the economy is still barely adjusting.
Manufacturing was not destroyed. We (USA) manufacture as much as we ever did. It is just that manufacturing is much more automated today, so manufacturing employment is down.
What is your source that we manufacture as much as we ever did? Does it take into account population growth?
Whats left for 300 million people to do?
They could spend their time reading about economic fallacies. Prosperity and economic growth come from more efficient production of goods and services. Not from "keeping people busy."
When you automate, and you send manufacturing overseas to countries like China, and you outsource a significant portion of service jobs to countries like India, the total number of jobs available in the country is decreased by some percentage. If the population quantity is fixed or growing, and the number of jobs available is shrinking, then unemployment is going to increase. Prosperity and economic growth only count for people who have jobs or who own companies.
Interesting times indeed.
Seems more like a slightly interesting continuation of a process that started with the invention of agriculture (destroying hunter-gather jobs).
The difference being the rate at which the quantify of jobs decreases. There's nothing wrong with automation. There's nothing wrong with having goods manufactured overseas. There's nothing wrong with outsourcing service jobs overseas. The problem is that when you combine the effects of all three and the decrease of jobs rate is uncontrolled then you can lose enough jobs fast enough that the economy as a whole is impacted. When the economy as a whole is impacted, new job creation is impacted.
Overall salaries will drop as well, as the total number of jobs has dropped and a larger number of people are competing for the same quantity of jobs or are competing for those same jobs that went overseas (ie call centers, which are coming back to the US to some degree) and must be ready to take a much lower salary than they would if said jobs hadn't been sent overseas to start with.
The Yuan has not actually been allowed to float. There are different Chinese currencies for different reasons, all of which are still controlled. Wikipedia has a good overview here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renminbi#Value
I'd like to know your source references for the following two points:
- We manufacture 60% of all globally produced goods..."
- "Many companies are now pulling out of China..."
With regard to finding work that can't be outsourced, you are right in that there are jobs that cannot be outsourced but once too high a percentage of jobs are outsourced people will shift into those jobs driving wages down.
TFA neglects to mention that Amazon is negotiating to receive a cut of the sales tax it collects:
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/19/business/la-fi-amazon-sales-taxes-20120520
Why doesn't our wonderful government just outsource everything IT to India and all weapons manufacturing to China while they're at it?
I mean really...what are they thinking?
Consider stone tablets. I head they are cheap, easy to come by, and last a long time.
They also have the benefit of being easily understood technology should we ever have that fourth world war...
As it works in infrared, which is line of sight, it probably doesn't remove any of the other scanning methods (ie groping) that are in place today.
We have free health care. It's called WebMD. Remove prescription requirements for non-narcotics and you eliminate 80-90% of health care demand.
You're probably right if for no other reason than subsequent deaths due to misdiagnosis and mistreatment.
You can't actually believe that people can successfully act as doctors for themselves and their families without any education or training whatsoever?
Even if they could, with any degree of accuracy, you're still ignoring all the medical support systems like x-rays, any physical intervention (ie setting bones, operations of any type, long term care, etc.
Someday maybe the Japanese can figure out how to build a bullet train in an earthquake zone.
All of Japan is an earthquake zone and they already have bullet trains.
Japan's earthquake information site:
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/quake_singendo_index.html
You can power them from satellites rather than ground based - you'll escape all the dust and much of the atmospheric crap, and your power will be free from the sun. Park a satellite over the Middle East and you have LOS everywhere.
And if you miss the little flying drone and happen to fry some people on the ground...oh well, shit happens...
I don't see anything in your reference that says antibiotic.
My understanding is that a vaccine is a controlled exposure to a living or dead form of the disease that the body is able to fight off in order to trigger immune response in the immunized person resulting in antibodies that stay in that person, thus immunizing them. This doesn't put the bacteria through the Darwinistic survival of the fittest that is the result of antibiotic use against bacterial infections and so no, I continue to believe that use of vaccines has nothing to do with the increase of antibiotic resistant bacteria.
Maybe, maybe not - it seems to me that you are the exception and that the brush is not too wide. I did not claim that it was 100% of those on slashdot and I think that most people on slashdot are supporters of pirating.
I hate relative terms when there is no indication as to what the term is relative to. For example, if the second worst outbreak in the last 20 years involved 80 people then this one could be the worst and involve 99 people.
What I would rather see is how important is this outbreak. The fact that it is the worst in 20 years does not mean that it is something to be concerned with. The questions to ask are as follows;
1. How much of the population is at risk?
2. Would spreading the information cause more harm than good. Will the populous be more frightened that necessary.
The 13 death tole can be misleading too. Are most of the deaths in people who live on the streets, avoid contact with health facilities and have compromised immune systems. I am not saying to ignore them but health warnings would not help as they would be ignored.
3. Should the politicians who closed the TB hospital and then buried the TB outbreak for political reasons be held accountable?
The medical side of this is not the only consideration here.
Dear Editors and NotSanguine,
When you copy and paste an entire paragraph from a linked source without actually citing that source as the author of said material, you're committing plagiarism. NotSanguine did not write this blurb; Muriel Kane of Raw Story did.
Respect authorship.
Funny how slashdot is up in arms over plagiarism and yet thinks (generally speaking) that pirating copyrighted material is for the common good.
Florida just closed down it's only state hospital specializing in tuberculosis cases on July 2nd. Bad timing.
Timing had nothing to do with it. It was politics. That's the problem with cutting back on social programs: They stabilize the quality of life for the general population. Take them away, and they're now subject to the random, chaotic, and violent twists of unbridled capitalism. And combine poor economic conditions with an outbreak of plague... and if you don't have any social support programs, well... grab a mirror so you can properly bend over and kiss your ass goodbye.
It's the same thing with unemployment insurance and food stamps, and other forms of economic assistance; During times of economic prosperity, these services go largely unused, so they can stockpile funding for periods of economic downturn, and in so doing, moderate the highs and lows inherent in a capitalist system. What's even stupider about this: All the social programs, health care, welfare, unemployment insurance... all of it, would be amply funded without costing a single taxpayer dollar if during those aforementioned periods of economic prosperity, the unused funding for those programs was diverted into investments. Spain has a robust social security program; Every person in the country is guaranteed social security. You know how much they pay into the system for that? Nothing. Nodda.
Short term thinking, people. It'll fuck you every time.
But we're just making the government smaller!!!!
Yep, we just need the good old CDC and Health Departments that actually ensured everyone got a Small Pox Vaccine. My Evil half just wants this to result in a highly contagious version that is Antibiotic Resistant and make it so everyone has to get the TB Vaccine. The irony of a disease coming into existence from this kind of nieve plot to kill innocent people. Really, the "Lets do nothing and let the Poor Die" plan doesn't work. Then again a lot of people will have to die for us just to relearn the lesson that Small Pox taught us.
Vaccines are not anti-biotics so this shouldn't be related.
Also, it's not 'Let's do nothing and let the poor die". It's "Let's get ourselves and our families immunized and we won't think about the poor because it's their own fault that they're poor in this wonderful country of opportunity". /ironyoff
Whos the governor of florida? Republican Rick Scott
Which party controls both the florida house and florida senate...Republicans
Who voted to defund the TB hospital in Florida...Republican state legislators
Which governor said he would not accept federal "Obamacare" funding to expend medicaid which provides TB medication ....Republican Rick Scott.
And anyone would subsequently be surprised at a cover up of a TB outbreak in Florida?
Obama is signing his own political death warrant.
I know that it is used but that doesn't mean that it should be used.
The solution isn't to allow USB usage, but to find a secure way to transfer files. FTP should be migrated to SCP with whatever level of authentication and virus/trojan/malware checking is required by the organization in question.
Security usually comes with inconvenience.
The company should have disabled USB ports on all company computers anyway. Inconvenient, yes, but necessary in this day and age.
Doesn't address the newly popular (due to continuing stupid expense reductions) of BYOD where of course USB ports will remain open, but as BYOD is a security nightmare anyway...
The cloud provider effectively has physical access to your machine, which is game over for any sort of security. Even if you use full disk encryption, you're going to have to decrypt it, and that means your key will be in RAM. A motivated spy in the cloud provider would have little trouble dumping your VM's RAM and decrypting everything.
You might be able to get away with running machines locally, and using the cloud for storage, if you encrypt everything locally and only store encrypted data in the cloud. But that removes most of the benefits of using the cloud in the first place.
You could still 'cloud' anything not sensitive, and keep anything considered sensitive local -
Been in planning for awhile in the US: http://www.theonion.com/video/obama-replaces-costly-highspeed-rail-plan-with-hig,18473/
(and yes, I know it's a spoof)
That is probably true - I deal with a number of manufacturers from China on a daily basis and none of them are really concerned about cloning a competitor's product for us if we desire it. I just found it funny is all.
Well then, probably serves you right if you find out that they're cloning your product as well...
Well obviously the Harlem residents must be guilty of something, otherwise the police won't stop and frisk them...
Yes they're guilty of being Harlem residents.
You want security, or you want convenience? You cannot have both.
I have a dongle for my business account and I sleep well at night. I even have a soft token on my phone for by Blizzard account. It's not so complicated, and I really don't mind.
This will also allow the government to disavow anything that is leaked as 'misinformation', regardless of whether it is true or not.