As you posted as an AC it is unlikely you will see this response, it still needs to be said...
Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe there are just different groups on/. who have different views on things? Some who are anti MS and others who are pro (or at least indifferent)?
Take a look at my posting history, you will see a pretty consistent view from me, being relatively pro MS, anti Linux, skeptical about OSS, anti DMCA and pro copyright. Take a read, you will see that I do not waver in what I say, even though my views do not always correspond to the collective/. view.
As for your Q of what ever happened to buying something and doing whatever you wanted with it, it went the same way as unbridled freedom, it hasn't existed in a long time and in some respects that is good. Just because someone is physically able to do something doesn't always mean they should be able to do it, and unfortunately because of a small minority who end up ruining things for the rest of us, we as a majority have to deal with things like DRM, background checks and airport security.
Rather than complaining about DRM and what not, why not complain about what causes companies to think it is their last resort?
P.S. Without "monopolistic, dinosaur media companies using it to perpetuate a fraadulent and dying business model" you would not have the media you so enjoy, remember that next time you download a song or movie illegitimately online.
I suggest you take a look at a recent comment of mine to someone who raised a similar point to you... in a more eloquent way.
The short of it is that mouse clicks can be binding. Imagine a world where they were not, people signing up for and using credit cards online, all with the click of the mouse, and then refusing to honor their debts because they never actually signed anything.
I will agree, it's nice to be able to buy a single song rather than the entire CD, but often when you do (in an electronic form) you are still agreeing to their rules one way or another, and breaking them can cause you to lose your 'rights' to the songs you have purchased. It's the same sort of thing as when you get a drivers license, you agree to certain rules in order to enjoy the privilege of driving. You have no right to drive, nor do you have the right to do what ever the hell you want with music you pay for.
Since you follow only those rules you want to, I hope that you do not decide to go out and get pissed drunk some night and drive down the wrong side of the road at 90mph, after all, you only will follow those rules you want to.
Case law is on the side of Apple and there service agreements, like it or not EULA's are legal and a mouse click does constitute acceptance of the agreement. Remember, all it takes for an agreement to be binding is both parties acceptance of it, and your signature on a dotted line is not the only way to signal your acceptance of something.
So you go ahead and believe that the service agreement is non binding, go ahead and strip out the DRM, risk getting sued, while your at it, why don't you step up your blowing off of the agreement! How about you reverse engineer other portions of iTunes and publish them online, Apple wont mind, yea, the user agreement says you can't, but it's non binding right?
When you buy from iTunes or just about any other online music store that uses some form of DRM, your purchase is bound by a service agreement in which you agree not to bypass the DRM.
If you want to be able to do damn near anything you want with the music you buy, then I suggest going down to the store and buying a non DRMed audio CD and rip it yourself, then you can have it in any format you want and be free of service agreements. On the other hand, if you want the convenience of being able to buy tracks online from a well known and reputable store, then you are going to have to face the facts that you have agreed to play by their rules with regards to DRM.
The major flaw in the BSD liscences is that it does not protect the code from proprietary and commercial intrest such as Microsoft, who want to take the code, create proprietary version of it, and sell that code when they have no right too.
You seem to be making the assumption that the BSD license should be more like the GPL, when it fact it was designed to be its own unique thing and done rather well for itself and code released under it. Nothing about the BSD license says that a company cannot take BSD licensed code and use it however they want, including in a proprietary, commercial product. Part of the intent of the BSD license was to let persons/groups/etc do just that!
You also go with the "nyeh, we need protection for those who do not want or ask for it". If someone wanted to restrict the ability of a company to release their code, they would release it under a license
The GPL is a "Share and enjoy" style of license and persons who release code under it know what they are doing (or shouldn't be releasing code) while BSD is simply a "give credit where credit is due" style of license.
Not yet. Although I do live in perpetual fear of it for fear as I do not think a movie would be able to do it justice, especially the 5 hour type they are talking about currently.
They did make a Fountainhead movie long ago, and there was talk of making Anthem into a Disney movie... but still none based on Atlas Shrugged.
Any CEO who had lost 10% market share, would have been fired immediately.
Hardly, has this lost market share to Firefox and other browsers cost them a single penny? No. Have they sold fewer copies of Windows to OEM's and end users? No.
This loss of market share has hurt Microsoft in no way other than people starting to think there is another way... and as always, has caused Microsoft to respond. Have you forgotten history? What happens when Microsoft responds to a challenge? They do so in full force and leave a bloody train behind them of those who could not stand up to them.
Your analogy is flawed though, I would gladly turn away any patrons to my store whose shoes cost me time/money (if I had a store).
While those wearing IE may not be pretty, they are easy to deal with when you know what you are looking for, for that minority who complain about the other 90% not playing fair, and forcing my developers to spend time catering to them because they think they are better... no, I'd rather cut em loose and be done with em.
I think you missed the parents point, the Google search appliance, a product they are distributing. The Q he is raising is if it is Linux based and if they applied any custom patches to any GPLed software within.
You are half right, and this doesn't really apply to Bram Cohen the way it does Kazaa and the old Napster which both of the latter are networks were the principal purpose is copyright infringement, such is not the case with Bit Torrent. BT was designed from the beginning with other purposes in mind and has effectively been hijacked by illicit users. The technology is not to blame, just the network owners, and this is why the makers of Kazaa and other 'piracy' networks have been hauled into court repeatedly and why Bram Cohen has been left alone.
I have heard of the shows, although I've never watched them, nor do I have any of his MP3's... I too must add my name to the list of those who have no clue who you are talking about.
GAIM in my experience has huge usability issues, and is less polished than IM2 (which is quite impressive but still rubs me the wrong way in may ways).
I must admit that I have not used Miranda nor any of the forks of EveryBuddy and will have to check them out sometime.
There are a number of features which I think will make my client rather unique, sorry, I don't want to discuss them right now. There is also the ego trip of building ones own from scratch which is always fun.
Last I checked... those couple of guys have been doing Trillian since 2000, I'm a guy working on the side in my own and have come up with MSN connectivity after just a few weeks. So by my math... they've got a 4.5 year head start on me... lets see where I am in that time. Worry not though, a release will occur in good time, and when that happens I will be sure to let you know.
I have, and tried the 3.1 beta as well, and it still doesn't work for me.
Even if the 3.0 or 3.1 versions did fix it for me... I'm not going to use them as my subscription ran out back in October and I am not going to renew just to get a minor bug fix like that.
You are correct, however I would expect that it would be fraud for an airline to claim that federal law requires passengers to show their ID's just to conform to company policy. More likely the FAA or DHS told the airlines to do so, so the blame will end up going back to them... for now.
This is of course the MPAA we are talking about... you know, the folks slightly more sane than the RIAA, but still both less crazy than your average/.er.
I don't need to, he is making a pretty blanket assertion without giving any evidence to support it... if we are to believe what he says he should at least offer something more than his word to sway us.
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As you posted as an AC it is unlikely you will see this response, it still needs to be said...
/. who have different views on things? Some who are anti MS and others who are pro (or at least indifferent)?
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Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe there are just different groups on
Take a look at my posting history, you will see a pretty consistent view from me, being relatively pro MS, anti Linux, skeptical about OSS, anti DMCA and pro copyright. Take a read, you will see that I do not waver in what I say, even though my views do not always correspond to the collective
As for your Q of what ever happened to buying something and doing whatever you wanted with it, it went the same way as unbridled freedom, it hasn't existed in a long time and in some respects that is good. Just because someone is physically able to do something doesn't always mean they should be able to do it, and unfortunately because of a small minority who end up ruining things for the rest of us, we as a majority have to deal with things like DRM, background checks and airport security.
Rather than complaining about DRM and what not, why not complain about what causes companies to think it is their last resort?
P.S. Without "monopolistic, dinosaur media companies using it to perpetuate a fraadulent and dying business model" you would not have the media you so enjoy, remember that next time you download a song or movie illegitimately online.
I suggest you take a look at a recent comment of mine to someone who raised a similar point to you... in a more eloquent way.
The short of it is that mouse clicks can be binding. Imagine a world where they were not, people signing up for and using credit cards online, all with the click of the mouse, and then refusing to honor their debts because they never actually signed anything.
I will agree, it's nice to be able to buy a single song rather than the entire CD, but often when you do (in an electronic form) you are still agreeing to their rules one way or another, and breaking them can cause you to lose your 'rights' to the songs you have purchased. It's the same sort of thing as when you get a drivers license, you agree to certain rules in order to enjoy the privilege of driving. You have no right to drive, nor do you have the right to do what ever the hell you want with music you pay for.
Since you follow only those rules you want to, I hope that you do not decide to go out and get pissed drunk some night and drive down the wrong side of the road at 90mph, after all, you only will follow those rules you want to.
Case law is on the side of Apple and there service agreements, like it or not EULA's are legal and a mouse click does constitute acceptance of the agreement. Remember, all it takes for an agreement to be binding is both parties acceptance of it, and your signature on a dotted line is not the only way to signal your acceptance of something.
So you go ahead and believe that the service agreement is non binding, go ahead and strip out the DRM, risk getting sued, while your at it, why don't you step up your blowing off of the agreement! How about you reverse engineer other portions of iTunes and publish them online, Apple wont mind, yea, the user agreement says you can't, but it's non binding right?
When you buy from iTunes or just about any other online music store that uses some form of DRM, your purchase is bound by a service agreement in which you agree not to bypass the DRM.
If you want to be able to do damn near anything you want with the music you buy, then I suggest going down to the store and buying a non DRMed audio CD and rip it yourself, then you can have it in any format you want and be free of service agreements. On the other hand, if you want the convenience of being able to buy tracks online from a well known and reputable store, then you are going to have to face the facts that you have agreed to play by their rules with regards to DRM.
The major flaw in the BSD liscences is that it does not protect the code from proprietary and commercial intrest such as Microsoft, who want to take the code, create proprietary version of it, and sell that code when they have no right too.
You seem to be making the assumption that the BSD license should be more like the GPL, when it fact it was designed to be its own unique thing and done rather well for itself and code released under it. Nothing about the BSD license says that a company cannot take BSD licensed code and use it however they want, including in a proprietary, commercial product. Part of the intent of the BSD license was to let persons/groups/etc do just that!
You also go with the "nyeh, we need protection for those who do not want or ask for it". If someone wanted to restrict the ability of a company to release their code, they would release it under a license
The GPL is a "Share and enjoy" style of license and persons who release code under it know what they are doing (or shouldn't be releasing code) while BSD is simply a "give credit where credit is due" style of license.
Not yet. Although I do live in perpetual fear of it for fear as I do not think a movie would be able to do it justice, especially the 5 hour type they are talking about currently.
They did make a Fountainhead movie long ago, and there was talk of making Anthem into a Disney movie... but still none based on Atlas Shrugged.
Is no one else here a fan of Dagny Taggart?
Any CEO who had lost 10% market share, would have been fired immediately.
Hardly, has this lost market share to Firefox and other browsers cost them a single penny? No. Have they sold fewer copies of Windows to OEM's and end users? No.
This loss of market share has hurt Microsoft in no way other than people starting to think there is another way... and as always, has caused Microsoft to respond. Have you forgotten history? What happens when Microsoft responds to a challenge? They do so in full force and leave a bloody train behind them of those who could not stand up to them.
Lets just wait and see what happens, shall we?
You mean like what Best Buy is trying to do?
Your analogy is flawed though, I would gladly turn away any patrons to my store whose shoes cost me time/money (if I had a store).
While those wearing IE may not be pretty, they are easy to deal with when you know what you are looking for, for that minority who complain about the other 90% not playing fair, and forcing my developers to spend time catering to them because they think they are better... no, I'd rather cut em loose and be done with em.
Shhh, you are thinking about profit and business, not the freedom and love that is promised by causing the downfall of Microsoft.
Mono does the CLR/BCL, basically an open source implementation of the .NET Framework.
VB6 is a completely different and unsupported story.
I think you missed the parents point, the Google search appliance, a product they are distributing. The Q he is raising is if it is Linux based and if they applied any custom patches to any GPLed software within.
So how much do we think /. accepted for this so prominently placed ad?
You know... the one that turned out to be pointing to the truth about a man who cheated on his wife and 'misled'?
Just because someone says something you don't like or that you don't agree with doesn't make it wrong. One shouldn't be afraid to hear the other side.
You are half right, and this doesn't really apply to Bram Cohen the way it does Kazaa and the old Napster which both of the latter are networks were the principal purpose is copyright infringement, such is not the case with Bit Torrent. BT was designed from the beginning with other purposes in mind and has effectively been hijacked by illicit users. The technology is not to blame, just the network owners, and this is why the makers of Kazaa and other 'piracy' networks have been hauled into court repeatedly and why Bram Cohen has been left alone.
I have heard of the shows, although I've never watched them, nor do I have any of his MP3's... I too must add my name to the list of those who have no clue who you are talking about.
GAIM in my experience has huge usability issues, and is less polished than IM2 (which is quite impressive but still rubs me the wrong way in may ways).
I must admit that I have not used Miranda nor any of the forks of EveryBuddy and will have to check them out sometime.
There are a number of features which I think will make my client rather unique, sorry, I don't want to discuss them right now. There is also the ego trip of building ones own from scratch which is always fun.
Last I checked... those couple of guys have been doing Trillian since 2000, I'm a guy working on the side in my own and have come up with MSN connectivity after just a few weeks. So by my math... they've got a 4.5 year head start on me... lets see where I am in that time. Worry not though, a release will occur in good time, and when that happens I will be sure to let you know.
I have, and tried the 3.1 beta as well, and it still doesn't work for me.
Even if the 3.0 or 3.1 versions did fix it for me... I'm not going to use them as my subscription ran out back in October and I am not going to renew just to get a minor bug fix like that.
Please god, help me forget about Trillian. Of course... remembering it keeps encouraging me to build my own (MSN is nearly done, then will be AIM).
p hp?s=&threadid=53546&perpage=30 for an example of a bug that has existed for nearly 18 months and has never formally been acknowledged or resolved.
Take a look at http://www.ceruleanstudios.com/forums/showthread.
You are correct, however I would expect that it would be fraud for an airline to claim that federal law requires passengers to show their ID's just to conform to company policy. More likely the FAA or DHS told the airlines to do so, so the blame will end up going back to them... for now.
Stop thinking rationally!
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This is of course the MPAA we are talking about... you know, the folks slightly more sane than the RIAA, but still both less crazy than your average
I don't need to, he is making a pretty blanket assertion without giving any evidence to support it... if we are to believe what he says he should at least offer something more than his word to sway us.
Care to support your assertions?
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