I realize that ripping this CD on a computer (were I interested) is probably trivial, but I've got a question anyway.
My DVD player has digital outputs. Is there anything stopping me from popping this CD in my DVD player and then capturing the digital output with my SB Audigy? Or is there some sort of (as yet unhacked) encryption going on at the digital level? Or would my DVD player just crap itself upon trying to read this "broken" CD?
How on earth does the government come up with a list of _78,000_ suspected terrorists? This is the type of indiscriminant prejudice that a seige mentality creates.
Man, you guys are like Pavlov's dogs. Taco rings the Microsoft story bell and out comes the rhetoric-spouting zealots. Sure, your points are valid security concerns. But they sure as hell aren't specific to Windows. Time for rebuttals...
Point 1 - Comm line: But what happens when it turns out they've used some Win-standard encryption.dll that gets hacked?
Ah yes, God knows non-Windows communications software never has exploits (it's a link to the SSH exploit story).
Point 2 - UI: The more Windoze crap they add -- they're talking about "lottery tickets and soft drinks" -- the more robust the UI will have to be. Are you sure you checked that buffer overflow?
Uh, this is specific to Windows how? Microsoft isn't going to be writing the interface, the ATM companies are. And they'd be writing the EXACT same interface on whatver platform you want them to use.
Point 3 - Physical Access: But what happens when trojan-friendly Windows is the OS? Pick the lock, load the software (because there *will* be a floppy, CD-ROM, or USB port for upgrades)
Guess what - the best hackers out there are more familiar with non-Windows OSes than they are with Windows. TiVo runs Linux and it's had the shit hacked out of it. ReplayTV, while still hackable, hasn't had nearly the level of "unofficial" customization. It's a lot easier to muck around with software if you have the source to it.
Now, I'm not saying that Windows is more secure than other OSes. That thought is absurd. My point is that in a very tightly controlled environment, it can be just as secure as the next OS. My other point is that you guys are fucking insane with anti-MS zealotry. Why don't you try looking at the world without that chip on your shoulder.
Yes, even if you copied that windows CD and Gate$ gets no money from your HL2 experience. What you're doing is sending a message to game authors that it's OK to ignore Linux forever.
Okay, tell me. What virus did you get that smart behavior would not have protected you from? And by "smart behavior" I mean staying patched, not opening dangerous attachments, and having a proper firewall.
The only way to do something like this is to make virus scanning software compulsory, which opens up an entirely new can of worms
Virus scanning software is complete bullshit. Explain to me how I have NEVER been aflicted with a computer virus, yet I also do not run antivirus software. (And yes, I'm running Windows:)
Smart users don't need antivirus software. Keep your machine patched and don't open executable attachments. Problem solved. Furthermore, the most dangerous viruses spread faster than the virus definitions anyway.
The only really secure server is buried in concrete, unlugged and at the bottom of the deepest trench in the ocean. It's *probably* secure there, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.
That's okay, I will.
I bet this guy's life that a server on the bottom of the ocean is secure.
I wonder if $300k really is a realistic fine to apply to someone who essentially is just spraying graffiti, breaking and entering and having a look around.
First off - the $300k is not damages, it's theft of services. LexisNexis isn't cheap and, supposedly, were this guy a paying customer, his bill would have been $300,000.
Secondly - the $25k in damages is quite possibly a legitimate claim. In the great tradition of Slashdot I'll proffer an analogy:
Some doofus carrying vials of ebola and spray paint breaks into a blood bank, sprays some graffiti and leaves only to be caught by the authorities later. How much damage did he cause?
Obviously the blood bank cannot assume that all he did was spray graffiti. They now have to either test EVERY possibly contaminated unit or destroy them. Either way the damages will far exceed what the fellow actually damaged.
So no, he probably didn't cause $25k worth of "damage", but it could very well have cost NYT that much to figure out what he did.
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Why do people think that *pretending* to tell hackneyed geek jokes is funny? Don't you guys ever get tired of this shit?
Of course once your Segway runs out of juice and flips you into an intersection you end up buying Dean Kamen's other big invention...
I realize that ripping this CD on a computer (were I interested) is probably trivial, but I've got a question anyway.
My DVD player has digital outputs. Is there anything stopping me from popping this CD in my DVD player and then capturing the digital output with my SB Audigy? Or is there some sort of (as yet unhacked) encryption going on at the digital level? Or would my DVD player just crap itself upon trying to read this "broken" CD?
the CD is plated with mithril, the burner in sanctified with the blood of a virgin...
Well, at least the virgin blood should be easy to come by here on Slashdot.
Note, the magician crack is a joke.
Hmmm - I thought jokes were supposed to be funny.
How on earth does the government come up with a list of _78,000_ suspected terrorists? This is the type of indiscriminant prejudice that a seige mentality creates.
Ohp - now it's 78,001.
One of my co-workers uses a DVORAK keyboard. We, of course, ridicule him to no end.
I'll bet you guys and your anti-DVORAK jokes are a real riot.
We don't take kindly to yer fancy sciontifik talk in these here parts...
I don't know about you, but seeing ping replies in the single digits and low teens while ~70miles away makes my spine tingle.
Uh, that tingling is the 500mw microwave signal cooking your spine.
Huh? I don't get it.
Man, you guys are like Pavlov's dogs. Taco rings the Microsoft story bell and out comes the rhetoric-spouting zealots. Sure, your points are valid security concerns. But they sure as hell aren't specific to Windows. Time for rebuttals...
.dll that gets hacked?
Point 1 - Comm line: But what happens when it turns out they've used some Win-standard encryption
Ah yes, God knows non-Windows communications software never has exploits (it's a link to the SSH exploit story).
Point 2 - UI: The more Windoze crap they add -- they're talking about "lottery tickets and soft drinks" -- the more robust the UI will have to be. Are you sure you checked that buffer overflow?
Uh, this is specific to Windows how? Microsoft isn't going to be writing the interface, the ATM companies are. And they'd be writing the EXACT same interface on whatver platform you want them to use.
Point 3 - Physical Access: But what happens when trojan-friendly Windows is the OS? Pick the lock, load the software (because there *will* be a floppy, CD-ROM, or USB port for upgrades)
Guess what - the best hackers out there are more familiar with non-Windows OSes than they are with Windows. TiVo runs Linux and it's had the shit hacked out of it. ReplayTV, while still hackable, hasn't had nearly the level of "unofficial" customization. It's a lot easier to muck around with software if you have the source to it.
Now, I'm not saying that Windows is more secure than other OSes. That thought is absurd. My point is that in a very tightly controlled environment, it can be just as secure as the next OS. My other point is that you guys are fucking insane with anti-MS zealotry. Why don't you try looking at the world without that chip on your shoulder.
Yes, God forbid you endure 8 hours without power. I hope you have the strength of character to survive.
Yes, even if you copied that windows CD and Gate$ gets no money from your HL2 experience. What you're doing is sending a message to game authors that it's OK to ignore Linux forever.
;)
Solution: Copy the game too.
Okay, tell me. What virus did you get that smart behavior would not have protected you from? And by "smart behavior" I mean staying patched, not opening dangerous attachments, and having a proper firewall.
I didn't think so.
I don't know what to tell you guy. I've been working with Windows for a living since 3.1. And I've NEVER run anti-virus.
Like I said - keep patched, don't do stupid shit with email, and have a proper firewall. That's all that's necessary.
That said, I always recommend AV software to other people. I don't expect them to know enough to keep safe.
The only way to do something like this is to make virus scanning software compulsory, which opens up an entirely new can of worms
:)
Virus scanning software is complete bullshit. Explain to me how I have NEVER been aflicted with a computer virus, yet I also do not run antivirus software. (And yes, I'm running Windows
Smart users don't need antivirus software. Keep your machine patched and don't open executable attachments. Problem solved. Furthermore, the most dangerous viruses spread faster than the virus definitions anyway.
The only really secure server is buried in concrete, unlugged and at the bottom of the deepest trench in the ocean. It's *probably* secure there, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.
That's okay, I will.
I bet this guy's life that a server on the bottom of the ocean is secure.
Hello, I have been wondering who bought the other Verite. Nice to meet you.
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I wonder if $300k really is a realistic fine to apply to someone who essentially is just spraying graffiti, breaking and entering and having a look around.
First off - the $300k is not damages, it's theft of services. LexisNexis isn't cheap and, supposedly, were this guy a paying customer, his bill would have been $300,000.
Secondly - the $25k in damages is quite possibly a legitimate claim. In the great tradition of Slashdot I'll proffer an analogy:
Some doofus carrying vials of ebola and spray paint breaks into a blood bank, sprays some graffiti and leaves only to be caught by the authorities later. How much damage did he cause?
Obviously the blood bank cannot assume that all he did was spray graffiti. They now have to either test EVERY possibly contaminated unit or destroy them. Either way the damages will far exceed what the fellow actually damaged.
So no, he probably didn't cause $25k worth of "damage", but it could very well have cost NYT that much to figure out what he did.
Here's a harsh example: If I charged you for sex, I could easily get $100/hour.
Hmmmm - is there something you two aren't telling us?
Wow, that SLIMP3 looks damn cool. Too bad it costs $239. If I could get one for $100 I'd be all over it.
Damn, I was all set to enjoy XBox Media Player until I saw that...
Fine - have you ever tried starting a campfire with an eBook? I didn't think so. ;)
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Who are you, Gollum?