So, who is willing to throw their subscription to the wind and post the code to sf.net...and potentially face other litigation (malicious mischief? no idea, but I'm sure they'd come up with something) as well?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you (I don't have a firm grasp on the GPL) but if what you're saying is true then theoretically one person could buy from Sveasoft and modify it, then redistribute?
As I understand the GPL it would allow someone to buy this source from Sveasoft and redistribute it; but Sveasoft may have try to get around that by putting licensing conditions on the purchase of the CD. I don't think that would hold up in court, but I Sveasoft may be willing to take a chance that it will.
But if you release the modified version to the public in some way, the GPL requires you to make the modified source code available to the program's users, under the GPL.
So, are the subscribers allowed to redistribute the modified source that they purchase? If so, there's no violation (at least, not on that point). If not, then yes; they are in violation of the gpl.
If paying customers are this pissed off, maybe people should consider sending an email to someone (dunno who) at VA, cc'ed to jamie, timothy and whatever other semi-reasonable editors that their may or may not be?
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I'm also free to support the Communist party. I'm free to not go to any church and paint "God is Dead" on the side of my enviornmentally friendly import. And I'm free to burn the largest flag I can find provided I take the necessary precautions to ensure I don't light anything else on fire. So while you were sarcastic in your statement, I really don't know what he's talking about.
Um, and I'd love to see what would befall any person who engaged in any of the activities you've mentioned; particularly the reaction they'd get if they painted "god is dead" on anything outside of LA, San Fran or Seattle.
I tried ekkobsd and for my tastes, it was indistinguishable from regular openbsd. From the get-go it seemed as though there was no real compelling reason for this distribution to exist (aside from itch scratching, of course).
However, I do wish the ekko project members success in their future endevours.
What do you mean? I'm free to express my politically incorrect opinions on race and class, I'm free to support the republican party, I'm free to go to the baptist church of my choice, I'm free to drive around town with the biggest flag money can buy on my car
I truly, honestly don't know what you could be talking about.
I stopped though, it got old.. it's just the same amount of effort to buy CDs and rip them, but the CD is, well, CD-quality and DRM-free. Is that "DRM-free" as in "free of DRM" or "DRM-free" as in "we aren't installing anything onto your hard drive, just into ram"?
Seriously, I would never pay for DRM-encrusted windows-only music files; and I don't get why it has taken off as much as it has.
If you want my money, either give me unemcumbered files; or (if you're an online station) give me a large selection of music that I can pick and choose what individual songs are being streamed to me. Launchcast has a great selection; but if there's a way to pick and choose what you want to hear (instead of "well, you like the ramones, have some greenday") I'll be damned if I can figure out what it is.
Maybe if you installed from the 50 diskettes it used to take 10 years ago, you'd know why it was considered 'hard'. I installed it from diskettes when I first learned linux. As I remember, the base set (the A series) took up far, far less than fifty diskettes, and I was able to figure out pretty quickly to just install the base series, one or two apps from the N series and then fetch the rest by hand from the net (which I'm sure most people figured out rather quickly as well).
I've been a linux user since 1996 and I downloaded all four cds and installed slackware; and then replaced it with mandrake 10!
I had two problems with slackware; first, switching from X to console mode (using ctrl-alt-fX) locked up my computer; the other one being that upon exiting X my terminal would be totally borked (meaning that it would be set to a bizarre resolution) which would only be cured by a reboot.
I didn't have the patience to track this down when I already had a ready, working and viable alternative (several, in fact). I'm rather sad as slackware was what introduced me to linux and got me going with it...but I would recommend XP, mandrake, knoppix, debian or openbsd over slackware at this point (depending on the user, their requirements, etc)
Emulating linux, and running linux kernel modules are not the same thing, as anyone who has fought to use vmware under NetBSD (a 50/50 proposistion) can tell you.
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So, who is willing to throw their subscription to the wind and post the code to sf.net...and potentially face other litigation (malicious mischief? no idea, but I'm sure they'd come up with something) as well?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you (I don't have a firm grasp on the GPL) but if what you're saying is true then theoretically one person could buy from Sveasoft and modify it, then redistribute?
As I understand the GPL it would allow someone to buy this source from Sveasoft and redistribute it; but Sveasoft may have try to get around that by putting licensing conditions on the purchase of the CD. I don't think that would hold up in court, but I Sveasoft may be willing to take a chance that it will.
So, are the subscribers allowed to redistribute the modified source that they purchase? If so, there's no violation (at least, not on that point). If not, then yes; they are in violation of the gpl.
teh rock fails it. :(
And someone calls these people _Editors_ ???
Yep; edit thread A down to -2; edit user B from "excellent" to "terrible" karma...etc, etc.
"Other day" my ass, they were just yesterday.
If paying customers are this pissed off, maybe people should consider sending an email to someone (dunno who) at VA, cc'ed to jamie, timothy and whatever other semi-reasonable editors that their may or may not be?
"..local landmarks".
You are not, however, free to your local landmarks.
Um, and I'd love to see what would befall any person who engaged in any of the activities you've mentioned; particularly the reaction they'd get if they painted "god is dead" on anything outside of LA, San Fran or Seattle.
I tried ekkobsd and for my tastes, it was indistinguishable from regular openbsd. From the get-go it seemed as though there was no real compelling reason for this distribution to exist (aside from itch scratching, of course).
However, I do wish the ekko project members success in their future endevours.
Indeed I did.
;)
Of course I could have responded to his last post by saying that "freedom is a dish best served cold", but that would be trolling.
What do you mean? I'm free to express my politically incorrect opinions on race and class, I'm free to support the republican party, I'm free to go to the baptist church of my choice, I'm free to drive around town with the biggest flag money can buy on my car
I truly, honestly don't know what you could be talking about.
Doom got enough shit for all the blood and guts; I guess ID figured they didn't want the additional headache of being accused of profanity as well. ;-)
Doesn't that only include Gentoo users who are running on a mac? ;)
Follow up: it's 2004 and the sun is still...Hot; we will keep you notified on the latest developments as they occur.
Isn't Rhapsody from Real? I still have nightmares from my brief stint of using RealOne.
I stopped though, it got old.. it's just the same amount of effort to buy CDs and rip them, but the CD is, well, CD-quality and DRM-free.
Is that "DRM-free" as in "free of DRM" or "DRM-free" as in "we aren't installing anything onto your hard drive, just into ram"?
Seriously, I would never pay for DRM-encrusted windows-only music files; and I don't get why it has taken off as much as it has.
If you want my money, either give me unemcumbered files; or (if you're an online station) give me a large selection of music that I can pick and choose what individual songs are being streamed to me. Launchcast has a great selection; but if there's a way to pick and choose what you want to hear (instead of "well, you like the ramones, have some greenday") I'll be damned if I can figure out what it is.
Maybe if you installed from the 50 diskettes it used to take 10 years ago, you'd know why it was considered 'hard'.
I installed it from diskettes when I first learned linux. As I remember, the base set (the A series) took up far, far less than fifty diskettes, and I was able to figure out pretty quickly to just install the base series, one or two apps from the N series and then fetch the rest by hand from the net (which I'm sure most people figured out rather quickly as well).
I've been a linux user since 1996 and I downloaded all four cds and installed slackware; and then replaced it with mandrake 10!
I had two problems with slackware; first, switching from X to console mode (using ctrl-alt-fX) locked up my computer; the other one being that upon exiting X my terminal would be totally borked (meaning that it would be set to a bizarre resolution) which would only be cured by a reboot.
I didn't have the patience to track this down when I already had a ready, working and viable alternative (several, in fact). I'm rather sad as slackware was what introduced me to linux and got me going with it...but I would recommend XP, mandrake, knoppix, debian or openbsd over slackware at this point (depending on the user, their requirements, etc)
Emulating linux, and running linux kernel modules are not the same thing, as anyone who has fought to use vmware under NetBSD (a 50/50 proposistion) can tell you.
What is the ports/packages situation look like for Dragonfly? Have they ported the old ones over, or is their selection severely limited?
common mistake, though.
that's always saying BSD is dying? As a NetBSd user, I wouldn't consider them an reliable source. ;)*
*winky provided for the sardonically challenged
Here's one.
if your web server is reduced to nothing but molten slag? ;-)