MS want to bve able to change there EULA after you've bought the product, I'd love to see the zlib people GPL theres, then sue MS when they don't comply.
Somebody doesn't get it
There is no universal right to retroactively change a contract (in a unilateral matter). Such a right must be granted in an earlier contract. So MS can change the EULA and have it be binding because you have agreed to any modifications which may be made by MS (with the option to return the software if you don't agree with them).
Zlib's license lacks a clause like this (and did when Microsoft took the code). Therfore, moving the project to GPL would only affect the new codebase.
And if Zlib were GPL'd, a fork would happen? Why? Because the BSD zealots would take the last non-GPL'd version and develop it under a BSD license, since they can't use the GPL.
Am I right in assuming this won't effect NT4 and is a direct outcome of putting the GDI back in the kernel unlike in the true microkernel architecture like HURD?
I thought the only version of Windows that didn't put the GDI in kernel space was the only one with a microkernel, aka NT3.x
What im asking is what if the license changes for code (after that version is used and released according to the license with it) that is existing within products are there today. How are they impacted?
There is no change. The license is a fixed contract which is agreed to at the time specified in the license (ie clickthru in the case of MS, at first use or examination in the case of the GPL). Unless the license states that future revisions to the license shall amend this license, changing the license can't do a damn thing.
This is why it's legal to have dual-licensed software. For instance, MySQL sells a non-GPL version of MySQL (which is 100% identical, except the GPL comments are replaced with MySQL license comments). In theory, if Linus wanted to release the Linux kernel under an MS EULA (with s/Microsoft/Linus Torvalds/), he could, although parts of the kernel that he lacks the copyright to (such as ReiserFS, which is available under a commercial license) couldn't be included. Linus closed-sourcing Linux is possible but difficult, given the degree of collaboration.
Either way, browsing other competitor products code whether its free, open GPL or whatever is gonna be risky for a business in legal terms.
How is reading, even verbatim copying, of BSD-licensed code risky in legal terms. The license explicitly allows incorporation into any type of software (commercial, open, or free). Microsoft could put out their own version of one of the *BSDs, with the only difference from it's base BSD being having the Windows GUI grafted on top of it and no source included.
The relevant passage in the BSD license (from http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/license.html ):
Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following acknowledgement:
[ACKNOWLEDGEMENT DELETED FOR BREVITY --LR]
There are licenses that are the BSD license, less the advertising clause (it is the advertising clause that prevents BSD from being a free license according to the FSF), such as the MIT license. These licenses are the freest of all the licenses (short of public domain).
Oh, wait, IBM didn't put as much money into the governments as Microsoft...
What planet are you on? IBM has always thrown power around the halls of governments the world over. They may not do so much campaign contributing, but they try to have some kind of an operation in a large portion of legislative districts. Thus, if they announce that they're laying off n% of workers, they tend to center the layoffs in the districts where noncompliant lawmakers are from. Losing a few thousand high-paying jobs will have repercussions, and no representative wants that.
For some reason, they appear durring a lot of sports
Well, lots of PHB's/execs watch sports (especially golf, but the NFL/MLB/NBA/NHL are also popular... not sure how many watch Arena Football...;o). Who else buys the $2000/game courtside seats (besides celebrities like Spike Lee, Jack Nicholson, and Billy Crystal)?
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I was about to submit a link to this, but here might be more appropriate
New.net has submitted a proposal for ICANN reform into a more market-based mechanism with policies that are only based on voluntary consensus. An interesting read.
Personally, I've been downloading new Mandrake ISOs for 3 years now, and I'd much rather donate than buy a boxed version of the distro. More of my $$ go to fund development that way.
Regarding boxed distros: if you want to buy Mandrake, don't go to a store and do it. Buy from http://www.mandrakestore.com. Mandrake gets approximately double the money from that venue (or you could buy two copies at another store and help make Linux more prominent at that store...)
Mandrake expects to be profitable by the end of the year, without any acceleration in Users Club memberships. However, the executives that were running the show until last spring were morons and tried to turn Mandrake into an e-learning company. The company is now in a temporary cashflow crunch because of costs of getting out of certain ventures.
It's good to hear positive news about 8.2. I'll try it and if it works (have they fixed supermount?) pay for 8.3, or maybe register as a member.
Not that Slashdot reported it, but 8.2 release candidate 1 is out... it seems to be quite good (I'm not willing to wreck my uptime for an RC...) Supermount is back and working (though I disable it... I like issuing mount commands).
Not sure on when 8.2PPC will be released (my money is on July-ish).
Mandrake 9.0 is currently in the planning stage... it looks like there's a chance of a specialized laptop distro being made, among other things.
Another possibility is to build and run the program under a virtual machine which checks these things
I may be misinterpreting your post, but there are a couple of debugging versions of the C libraries that do check for all sorts of memory errors (and others...)
One feature of C++ that I think can be bad is the assert statement. I've seen people write code that has critical side effects in assert statements, so that it only works in debug mode. Now you say, that's just a stupid programmer, but shouldn't the compiler and language design help to stop these kinds of stupid errors?
Uh, assert is part of the C library
From/usr/include/assert.h:
/* Copyright (C) 1991,1992,1994-1999,2000,2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This file is part of the GNU C Library. . . . /*
* ISO C99 Standard: 7.2 Diagnostics
*/
Assertions overall are a good thing... at the very least they allow a measure of self-documentation. Your argument applies to any debugging, or sanity checking code...
I believe a number of commercial lint programs exist which check for bad assertions.
I think you've misinterpreted my post. I was responding to an earlier poster's assertion that an AOL Linux would dramatically speed up Linux use in business, using the argument that as people got used to AOLinux businesses would move secretaries to Linux machines.
I was pointing out that AOL would likely use an interface that looked very much like their current AOL for Windows interface (maybe using the GTK patches which they made for the AIM Linux client). In essence, unless businesses used AOLinux, this argument doesn't hold water.
An AOLinux wouldn't use a standard window manager. It will use an AOL'd window manager, with an ad in the corner. No business will go to Linux simply because AOL is distributing AOLinux boxes.
I was posting facts. If you look at the New York Post, it tends to be a cheerleader for Sharon. Compare that to its competitors in the New York market (the Daily News and the Times) and you'll see that the Post is far more of a cheerleader. Mortimer Zuckerman, the owner of the News is Jewish. The Sulzbergers, who own a majority stake in the Times, are also Jewish.
While I was not expecting a mod-up, and would have been happy with an off-topic, that is not a troll.
Moderators: this post is offtopic. Moderate as such.
We all seem to know that AOL on
Wintel utilizes the Microsoft
rendering engine. What does AOL
for MacOS use?
I'd presume the IE Mac rendering engine, but that's a guess.
Has AOL ever used a rendering
engine for either platform other
than the one(s) used now?
AOL's original browser was Mosaic-based, IIRC. It blew goats (I think it had table support, but not much else).
If AOL has switched in the past,
what was the motivation then?
AOL switched to IE back when Netscape owned about 70% of the market. Microsoft got the IE rendering engine to #1, and AOL got desktop placement in Windows (remember the Online Services program group in Windows?)
Rupert Murdoch has been an Israeli cheerleader for years. It's kind of ironic when you look at it in terms of the New York newspaper market: the Post is apt to be more uncritical of the Israelis than either of the two "Jewish-controlled" papers (the Times and News).
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...recruit for this job at my school? I know I'm qualified!
In a related story, Britney Spears announced that she would never perform in Canada again.
I took the license from the FreeBSD website
Check the url in my post
Somebody doesn't get it
There is no universal right to retroactively change a contract (in a unilateral matter). Such a right must be granted in an earlier contract. So MS can change the EULA and have it be binding because you have agreed to any modifications which may be made by MS (with the option to return the software if you don't agree with them).
Zlib's license lacks a clause like this (and did when Microsoft took the code). Therfore, moving the project to GPL would only affect the new codebase.
And if Zlib were GPL'd, a fork would happen? Why? Because the BSD zealots would take the last non-GPL'd version and develop it under a BSD license, since they can't use the GPL.
I thought the only version of Windows that didn't put the GDI in kernel space was the only one with a microkernel, aka NT3.x
There is no change. The license is a fixed contract which is agreed to at the time specified in the license (ie clickthru in the case of MS, at first use or examination in the case of the GPL). Unless the license states that future revisions to the license shall amend this license, changing the license can't do a damn thing.
This is why it's legal to have dual-licensed software. For instance, MySQL sells a non-GPL version of MySQL (which is 100% identical, except the GPL comments are replaced with MySQL license comments). In theory, if Linus wanted to release the Linux kernel under an MS EULA (with s/Microsoft/Linus Torvalds/), he could, although parts of the kernel that he lacks the copyright to (such as ReiserFS, which is available under a commercial license) couldn't be included. Linus closed-sourcing Linux is possible but difficult, given the degree of collaboration.
How is reading, even verbatim copying, of BSD-licensed code risky in legal terms. The license explicitly allows incorporation into any type of software (commercial, open, or free). Microsoft could put out their own version of one of the *BSDs, with the only difference from it's base BSD being having the Windows GUI grafted on top of it and no source included.
The relevant passage in the BSD license (from http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/license.html ):
There are licenses that are the BSD license, less the advertising clause (it is the advertising clause that prevents BSD from being a free license according to the FSF), such as the MIT license. These licenses are the freest of all the licenses (short of public domain).
Bruce Willis will be 94 in 2049! How will we get someone that old into space to blow up the asteroid?
Of course, does the C method result in buffer overflows?
What planet are you on? IBM has always thrown power around the halls of governments the world over. They may not do so much campaign contributing, but they try to have some kind of an operation in a large portion of legislative districts. Thus, if they announce that they're laying off n% of workers, they tend to center the layoffs in the districts where noncompliant lawmakers are from. Losing a few thousand high-paying jobs will have repercussions, and no representative wants that.
Well, lots of PHB's/execs watch sports (especially golf, but the NFL/MLB/NBA/NHL are also popular... not sure how many watch Arena Football... ;o). Who else buys the $2000/game courtside seats (besides celebrities like Spike Lee, Jack Nicholson, and Billy Crystal)?
I was about to submit a link to this, but here might be more appropriate
New.net has submitted a proposal for ICANN reform into a more market-based mechanism with policies that are only based on voluntary consensus. An interesting read.
That's why Mandrake have started selling it themselves through the MandrakeStore.
Regarding boxed distros: if you want to buy Mandrake, don't go to a store and do it. Buy from http://www.mandrakestore.com. Mandrake gets approximately double the money from that venue (or you could buy two copies at another store and help make Linux more prominent at that store...)
Mandrake expects to be profitable by the end of the year, without any acceleration in Users Club memberships. However, the executives that were running the show until last spring were morons and tried to turn Mandrake into an e-learning company. The company is now in a temporary cashflow crunch because of costs of getting out of certain ventures.
Not that Slashdot reported it, but 8.2 release candidate 1 is out... it seems to be quite good (I'm not willing to wreck my uptime for an RC...) Supermount is back and working (though I disable it... I like issuing mount commands).
Not sure on when 8.2PPC will be released (my money is on July-ish).
Mandrake 9.0 is currently in the planning stage... it looks like there's a chance of a specialized laptop distro being made, among other things.
I have to say it...
So Mozilla is getting closer to matching Opera...
I may be misinterpreting your post, but there are a couple of debugging versions of the C libraries that do check for all sorts of memory errors (and others...)
Uh, assert is part of the C library
From /usr/include/assert.h:
Assertions overall are a good thing... at the very least they allow a measure of self-documentation. Your argument applies to any debugging, or sanity checking code...
I believe a number of commercial lint programs exist which check for bad assertions.
The original TCP/IP stack was BSD's. This has been completely rewritten multiple times since then.
I suspect that at one time in the past, BSD's VM was the Linux VM, until a rewrite occurred.
I think you've misinterpreted my post. I was responding to an earlier poster's assertion that an AOL Linux would dramatically speed up Linux use in business, using the argument that as people got used to AOLinux businesses would move secretaries to Linux machines.
I was pointing out that AOL would likely use an interface that looked very much like their current AOL for Windows interface (maybe using the GTK patches which they made for the AIM Linux client). In essence, unless businesses used AOLinux, this argument doesn't hold water.
The ad bit was a secondary consideration.
An AOLinux wouldn't use a standard window manager. It will use an AOL'd window manager, with an ad in the corner. No business will go to Linux simply because AOL is distributing AOLinux boxes.
How is that a troll?
I was posting facts. If you look at the New York Post, it tends to be a cheerleader for Sharon. Compare that to its competitors in the New York market (the Daily News and the Times) and you'll see that the Post is far more of a cheerleader. Mortimer Zuckerman, the owner of the News is Jewish. The Sulzbergers, who own a majority stake in the Times, are also Jewish.
While I was not expecting a mod-up, and would have been happy with an off-topic, that is not a troll.
Moderators: this post is offtopic. Moderate as such.
I'd presume the IE Mac rendering engine, but that's a guess.
AOL's original browser was Mosaic-based, IIRC. It blew goats (I think it had table support, but not much else).
AOL switched to IE back when Netscape owned about 70% of the market. Microsoft got the IE rendering engine to #1, and AOL got desktop placement in Windows (remember the Online Services program group in Windows?)
Rupert Murdoch has been an Israeli cheerleader for years. It's kind of ironic when you look at it in terms of the New York newspaper market: the Post is apt to be more uncritical of the Israelis than either of the two "Jewish-controlled" papers (the Times and News).