Probably, they'll do just as the USA has done: wait for people to come visit, and then arrest them as they get off the plane. We did that here in the USA to Dmitry, and I'm sure some countries are now happy to play by these "new" rules.
What rock have you lived under? Standard practice, when you can't get someone extradited, is to arrest them when they set foot in your country. For instance, if you were charged with a murder in, say, Massachusetts, and went to Rhode Island, it would be (under the US Constitution) the decision of Rhode Island's governor as to whether to extradite or not. If you weren't extradited, you would have to be a moron to set foot in Massachusetts again (or any state where the gov. is willing to extradite).
It's also not uncommon for a person to refuse to set foot in a certain state, because they would be forced to be a defendant in a civil case.
There's no such thing as a mainstream-America. It's a myth perpetuated by a) those who hve an interest in referring to themselves as non-mainstream and b) those who have an interest in referring to themselves as mainstream.
I myself wasn't expecting a reply, and I'm replying late due to a trip, but here goes
Metallica's stance on taping is not as strong as DMB's or the Dead's: they generally tend not to fight arenas that restrict taping. That said, they do, wherever possible, try to make it possible to tape. As far as I know, their objections to Napster did not cover live trading (though it could be argued that Napster themselves were trying to profit from the trades, which is something they (and DMB) take a dim view of).
As to governments propping up anti-taping laws, they are at least complicit in it, by which I mean that most arenas in this country are A) owned by a state university (thus gov't) or B) owned by either an actual governmental unit or by quasi-governmental authorities which pay their surpluses/profits to the governmental units at a rate of 100%. In the latter case (and occasionally the former), ClearChannel/SFX essentially purchase management rights to the arena, in return for a percentage of the gross revenues (similar deals are made wrt concessions). While the managers may actually make the rule, the authority will either provide explicit approval, or provides implicit approval (in the form of not vetoing them). And of course, they could conceivably explicitly bar taping-bans in the management agreements.
Part of the problem is that live music is being unnecessarily restricted in this country. When is the last time you attended a major concert, and you weren't threatened with a body cavity search, charged outrageous prices for parking, prevented from bringing any kind of refreshments, and smacked in the face with extremely predatory ticket prices and concession prices. Smaller, competing music venues are continually threatened and shut down, either by monopolistic action by mega-corporations such as Clear Channel, or under the guise of draconian drug laws. Free hint: that is how monopolies operate. Another free hint: the artists get only a tiny fraction of this money. Final hint: with the advent of the internet, the services of these big music distributors are no longer required.
Some bands (Dave Matthews Band and Metallica come to mind immediately) do not discourage the taping of concerts (that said, some venues, most of which are owned in one way or another by some form of government discourage it.)
I think there are two factors underlying the ripping-off that one gets at a concert. The artist/entertainers are forced into overcharging at the concerts because they get screwed over by the record industry. The other reason is pure economics. When you go to a concert, you're not really obtaining the use of IP. Each concert is different than others, especially if you're going to a concert by a great live-entertainer (changes to songs, jam sessions, etc.), but even if you're not, then there is the atmosphere, the collective experience of being with n other people who have an interest in the same music. There is a scarcity of tickets to such events (with the exception of fire code issues, this is not granted by law). There is a scarcity of parking spaces around a given location.
Windows NT - innovated from OS2 ?? what are you smoking - it owes more to X windows than that (hint - what happens when NT crashed - i dumps core) the back end is similar in many ways to Unix -...
Erm.. NT is actually not only "innovated from OS/2", it is completely based on the OS/2 codebase. (You might remember in the early days of NT those "OS2!SYS" error messages that kept coming up... What are you smoking?
NT is also heavily VMS based. Microsoft hired away most of the VMS development team to do NT. The thing is, NT3.x really doesn't suck. Unlike later versions of the OS, it actually ran the GUI in userspace, among other things.
looking at the stats, I think this would be VERY helpful if I could make it would with my gnutella client I am hacking. I don't mind incompatibility with other clients caus eI am building this for a University intranet, but gnutella, as we all know, would use far too much bandwidth. If I could compress the search queries, I would savve a lot of bandwidth. ideas?
Of course, I'd imagine that the Gnutella searches are themselves minuscule compared to the traffic generated by the actual file transfers. Since most files transferred over Gnutella are apt to be already compressed (MP3, MPEG, et al.), g|bzipping would have no real benefit.
I'm not really intimately familiar with Gnutella's search structure. I suppose that passing queries on could generate a fair amount of traffic, but I still doubt that a 4 MB MP3 requires over 500K of search traffic.
The CDDA logo is trademarked and the licenced under the condition that discs and players bearing the logo conform to the CDDA specifications. So I think it would be illegal to use this logo on a non-standard disc. I haven't seen it used on many discs anyway, though.
Most jewel cases, if you look closely (the new-style dual CD cases don't have this, though) do have a CDDA logo. Look in the top right-hand corner of the plastic piece that the CD rests on. You'll see a CDDA logo.
Which has no bearing on whether or not Windows was to be made a closed system (the debate in the posts preceding yours). If making a closed system were illegal, then Apple would be guilty of this.
Playing devil's advocate, and putting on me flame-proof jacket, I honestly wonder how people can attack Microsoft for putting IE into the operating system and defend Apple for putting iTunes as a standard part of many Macintoshes.
The precedent that is set by deeming stunts such as bundling IE is ludicrous. This implies that adding any feature to your product, if it was previously considered an add-on, is anticompetitive. For instance:
Any 2-D card maker that came out with a 2-D/3-D card was behaving in an anti-competitive manner to 3Dfx, because it obviated the need for a separate 3-D card.
When WordPerfect integrated a grammar checker into its software, it destroyed the market for other grammar checkers.
Netscape, by bundling an email client with the web browser, reduced the need for a sepearate program.
Most Linux distributions (at least of the boxed variety) contain a commercial web browser, namely Netscape 4.x. However, a demonstrably superior commercial browser (Opera) has yet to be included (as far as I know) with any distribution that includes Netscape. This is the exact analog of the IE-bundling issue.
When TVs started integrating cable tuners, thus hurting the market for Scientific Atlanta et al, was this considered illegal? No, it wasn't.
The ultimate problem that I have with considering IE to be an antitrust violation is this: the makeup of software packages then becomes an issue in which the government now has near-veto power over.
Ultimately, and it pains me to say this, in the name of Software Freedom, the Microsoft IE debate must be opposed.
That said, I do think Microsoft has behaved in an openly anticompetitive manner (especially regarding OEM licensing and such).
If I am a notorious cat burgler, (A Digital Big Pussy if you will),
I have been hunted and chased for many years and finally the authorities gets
enough clues to prosecute me. Let's say they found forenesic traces of a
material at the crime scene that points to me as the perpetrator. If you
combine this other trace evidence they found, it makes me look pretty guilty.
I'm probably the culprit but a few more forensic details have to be worked
out before the prosecution can continue foward.
While the details are being hash out by the legal beagles. Imagine now
that I am left by the authroties to continue freely without being followed
on scrutizeded at all any further.
That's why they don't start actual prosecution until they have enough of the evidence. They can't get an indictment and possibly even bail, you walk. That's what innocent until proven guilty means.
Not being completely sure of your nationality, this may not be the operative principle of your legal system (most European legal systems, for instance, build at least a slight presumption of guilt into the process), but it is the principle of the American legal system, and is therefore the only principle relevant to the Microsoft antitrust case.
I keep looking at new RH releases, but the one thing I like SuSE for is -ironically- one aspect of YAST: the complete package integration. I have _one_ CD I insert, and I can choose from all the packages in the distro.
Mandrake does this too: a question in the installer is: which of these CDs do you have? It then presents a package list based on your answer.
Perhaps even a larger concern is Suse's use of ReiserFS. Red Hat has been screaming that fsck and other user-level tools for ReiserFS are tremendously substandard, and that ReiserFS corrupts itself under heavy load, to say nothing of the NFS problems (I don't know if these are fixed).
I've been using ReiserFS on production systems for 10 months, and I haven't had a problem.
Methinks Red Hat just dislikes the fact that they missed the ReiserFS boat...
I believe Mandrake rpms are set up to call Mandrake's menu management system, thus adding at least menu entries (assuming you use the Mandrake hierarchy).
To be honest, I think that the concept of shareholder lawsuits is outlandishly stupid. I operate by this standard: "you puts your money in, you takes your chances".
Firestone has gotten a complete bum rap in this. Why is it that *only* Fords had the trouble? Might it be that Ford was recommending bad tire pressure settings?
It's akin to this: if Dell were to say "we recommend overclocking our 600 MHz Celerons to 1.2GHz, with only a bargain basement fan, and when the CPU's start acting erratically, to blame Intel for "poor CPU design".
Movies of the likes of "Dude, Where's My Car?" are good, as long as one approaches them in the proper frame of mind. Don't expect Shakespeare. Don't even expect "American Beauty."
As Richard Maibaum, who wrote many of the Bond films, said, "Put your brain under the seat, and watch!"
...who said that "Unix is backards" (or is at least alleged to have said that. I think it would not be a surprise that he takes issue with a lot of Unix truisms...
Even though this is, in all probability, a troll, I'll bite.
Open Source advocate[s] simply need to abandon Linux and create a new OS from scratch with the focus on flashy graphics, gaming, same stability, and an equally cute logo.
The OS you're talking about is (or at least might be in the future) AtheOS. All it needs are drivers, and it's there.
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What rock have you lived under? Standard practice, when you can't get someone extradited, is to arrest them when they set foot in your country. For instance, if you were charged with a murder in, say, Massachusetts, and went to Rhode Island, it would be (under the US Constitution) the decision of Rhode Island's governor as to whether to extradite or not. If you weren't extradited, you would have to be a moron to set foot in Massachusetts again (or any state where the gov. is willing to extradite).
It's also not uncommon for a person to refuse to set foot in a certain state, because they would be forced to be a defendant in a civil case.
There's no such thing as a mainstream-America. It's a myth perpetuated by a) those who hve an interest in referring to themselves as non-mainstream and b) those who have an interest in referring to themselves as mainstream.
I myself wasn't expecting a reply, and I'm replying late due to a trip, but here goes
Metallica's stance on taping is not as strong as DMB's or the Dead's: they generally tend not to fight arenas that restrict taping. That said, they do, wherever possible, try to make it possible to tape. As far as I know, their objections to Napster did not cover live trading (though it could be argued that Napster themselves were trying to profit from the trades, which is something they (and DMB) take a dim view of).
As to governments propping up anti-taping laws, they are at least complicit in it, by which I mean that most arenas in this country are A) owned by a state university (thus gov't) or B) owned by either an actual governmental unit or by quasi-governmental authorities which pay their surpluses/profits to the governmental units at a rate of 100%. In the latter case (and occasionally the former), ClearChannel/SFX essentially purchase management rights to the arena, in return for a percentage of the gross revenues (similar deals are made wrt concessions). While the managers may actually make the rule, the authority will either provide explicit approval, or provides implicit approval (in the form of not vetoing them). And of course, they could conceivably explicitly bar taping-bans in the management agreements.
Some bands (Dave Matthews Band and Metallica come to mind immediately) do not discourage the taping of concerts (that said, some venues, most of which are owned in one way or another by some form of government discourage it.)
I think there are two factors underlying the ripping-off that one gets at a concert. The artist/entertainers are forced into overcharging at the concerts because they get screwed over by the record industry. The other reason is pure economics. When you go to a concert, you're not really obtaining the use of IP. Each concert is different than others, especially if you're going to a concert by a great live-entertainer (changes to songs, jam sessions, etc.), but even if you're not, then there is the atmosphere, the collective experience of being with n other people who have an interest in the same music. There is a scarcity of tickets to such events (with the exception of fire code issues, this is not granted by law). There is a scarcity of parking spaces around a given location.
NT is also heavily VMS based. Microsoft hired away most of the VMS development team to do NT. The thing is, NT3.x really doesn't suck. Unlike later versions of the OS, it actually ran the GUI in userspace, among other things.
Hey! IMHO, Windows 3.11 was the last decent MS OS until Win2k (as far as a client OS goes)...
According to this page, it is!
Of course, I'd imagine that the Gnutella searches are themselves minuscule compared to the traffic generated by the actual file transfers. Since most files transferred over Gnutella are apt to be already compressed (MP3, MPEG, et al.), g|bzipping would have no real benefit.
I'm not really intimately familiar with Gnutella's search structure. I suppose that passing queries on could generate a fair amount of traffic, but I still doubt that a 4 MB MP3 requires over 500K of search traffic.
Most jewel cases, if you look closely (the new-style dual CD cases don't have this, though) do have a CDDA logo. Look in the top right-hand corner of the plastic piece that the CD rests on. You'll see a CDDA logo.
Last I checked, Netscape wasn't free...
Which has no bearing on whether or not Windows was to be made a closed system (the debate in the posts preceding yours). If making a closed system were illegal, then Apple would be guilty of this.
Playing devil's advocate, and putting on me flame-proof jacket, I honestly wonder how people can attack Microsoft for putting IE into the operating system and defend Apple for putting iTunes as a standard part of many Macintoshes.
The precedent that is set by deeming stunts such as bundling IE is ludicrous. This implies that adding any feature to your product, if it was previously considered an add-on, is anticompetitive. For instance:
- Any 2-D card maker that came out with a 2-D/3-D card was behaving in an anti-competitive manner to 3Dfx, because it obviated the need for a separate 3-D card.
- When WordPerfect integrated a grammar checker into its software, it destroyed the market for other grammar checkers.
- Netscape, by bundling an email client with the web browser, reduced the need for a sepearate program.
- Most Linux distributions (at least of the boxed variety) contain a commercial web browser, namely Netscape 4.x. However, a demonstrably superior commercial browser (Opera) has yet to be included (as far as I know) with any distribution that includes Netscape. This is the exact analog of the IE-bundling issue.
- When TVs started integrating cable tuners, thus hurting the market for Scientific Atlanta et al, was this considered illegal? No, it wasn't.
The ultimate problem that I have with considering IE to be an antitrust violation is this: the makeup of software packages then becomes an issue in which the government now has near-veto power over.Ultimately, and it pains me to say this, in the name of Software Freedom, the Microsoft IE debate must be opposed.
That said, I do think Microsoft has behaved in an openly anticompetitive manner (especially regarding OEM licensing and such).
That's why they don't start actual prosecution until they have enough of the evidence. They can't get an indictment and possibly even bail, you walk. That's what innocent until proven guilty means.
Not being completely sure of your nationality, this may not be the operative principle of your legal system (most European legal systems, for instance, build at least a slight presumption of guilt into the process), but it is the principle of the American legal system, and is therefore the only principle relevant to the Microsoft antitrust case.
Mandrake, like Red Hat, sells boxes with non-free software. The download CDs, though, are all free.
Not to mention the best of them all: Opera...
Mandrake does this too: a question in the installer is: which of these CDs do you have? It then presents a package list based on your answer.
I've been using ReiserFS on production systems for 10 months, and I haven't had a problem.
Methinks Red Hat just dislikes the fact that they missed the ReiserFS boat...
Don't put AtheOS in the same category as the HURD. AtheOS is quite a bit further along than Hurd.
How about a Linux distro for NASCAR fans... includes themes so all your titlebars have racing decorations, and a full complement of NASCAR wallpapers.
I believe Mandrake rpms are set up to call Mandrake's menu management system, thus adding at least menu entries (assuming you use the Mandrake hierarchy).
To be honest, I think that the concept of shareholder lawsuits is outlandishly stupid. I operate by this standard: "you puts your money in, you takes your chances".
Firestone has gotten a complete bum rap in this. Why is it that *only* Fords had the trouble? Might it be that Ford was recommending bad tire pressure settings?
It's akin to this: if Dell were to say "we recommend overclocking our 600 MHz Celerons to 1.2GHz, with only a bargain basement fan, and when the CPU's start acting erratically, to blame Intel for "poor CPU design".
Movies of the likes of "Dude, Where's My Car?" are good, as long as one approaches them in the proper frame of mind. Don't expect Shakespeare. Don't even expect "American Beauty."
As Richard Maibaum, who wrote many of the Bond films, said, "Put your brain under the seat, and watch!"
...who said that "Unix is backards" (or is at least alleged to have said that. I think it would not be a surprise that he takes issue with a lot of Unix truisms...
Sometimes the moderation system astounds me. I mean, on the whole, this post is not flamebait.
Even though this is, in all probability, a troll, I'll bite.
The OS you're talking about is (or at least might be in the future) AtheOS. All it needs are drivers, and it's there.