Another one who think he is smarter than the team who has made Apple the only company in the world to sit on top of more than 100 billion in cash. Please apply your great strategy to your own business and let others enjoy the consequences of their "mistakes". Good laugh though.
So let me get this straight, this phone is not out yet (so we can't reproduce this benchmark) but it's already slower than a phone that has been out for month... Performance is for sure something I would not emphasize if I was Google or LG
Then, if the user so chooses to set foot into Mordor, there can be a tier of apps that are downloadable almost immediately, and pulled if people justifiably report it as malicious.
That's called jailbreaking. I didn't see Apple taking a strong stance against this. They did say it was wrong and bad and talked a lot, but no real action was taken against jailbreaking.
You should tell that to the 40 expat who have been sent back home so far this year, they were considered "too expensive" But it's true I'm white. But my boss is not white.
On a more general note, I think expat are mostly respectful foreigners. We are not here for long usually and we didn't choose the destination. We just want to fit in and know very well we are spoiled compare to locals. I was in Japan during the earthquake and was outraged at the way we were treated compare to locals.
Maybe it's irony, but moderating +5 Informative something like "reading The Economist" is showing something about the current Slashdot, why not the Wall Street Journal right? There is "Wall Street" in the name it must be good to get a finance job!! Yes it's the usual rant.
Anyway, I've been in IT finance for the past 7 years, one of the main european financial institution. I can code but I'm no math head and have no special social skills (appart from applying good advices you can find from trustful resources that you should already know). I've been expat in 3 different countries and I'm now in Singapore, moved to project manager 4 years ago and soon getting a nice promotion to switch to accounting control. I bet you don't understand how that can be a promotion, I wouldn't have either 7 years ago. But outside this, if you can code, you know how the various business of retail or investment bank are working and you did bet on the right technology you'll find a job easily. Here it's all Java if you want to have a nice job. Short term, low budget crap is using PHP/Whatever tech being evaluated at the moment.
One warning though, this investment bank is very conservative, that is I'm typing this on a WinXP cousin made for the bank and have no idea if or when we'll switch to something more actual. New technology get about 3 or 4 years approval time, so you either stick with standards (IBM, Oracle) or you can forget about the latest fun technology for your time spent in the office. Outside this small detail, I obviously love this job and the people here and all over the countries I've been sent to.
And please, prepare properly for interviewing and do you research before contacting me, if you are interested.
Ok, you are right on the "not produced by Apple", it's true.
When I talk about developer.apple.com, I'm more thinking in terms of framework like Core Data, Core Audio, OpenCL, Quartz, that you can find on the iPhone as well and are changing the way apps are done. The success of all these iPhone apps is tightly linked with the fact that you can create pretty apps easily and quickly...
You can put together a GUI or app quickly with Python and Gnome on OS X as well... That's my point. As long as 1 person thinks Cocoa and Objective-C is better it's a more useful platform to work with.
We are all Mac users for different reasons, like Slashdot has actually many different opinions. But saying that Apple has never produced anything remotely as useful as the open source software movement doesn't make any sense. Most of MacOS X code is based on open source (as you said). So I can do as much as you can with your Linux/BSD box, how can that be less useful ? And if you add all the stuff Apple added on top of the open source core (and that's an awful lot, have a look at developer.apple.com for information) you'll realise that this is actually more useful... No ?
Windows since NT version has been designed to be secure. Really I think they had a good shot at it. The result is not impressive, but they tried. If you are talking about bloat and bad decision leading to complex issues, I agree with you. But you can't say that a modern version of Windows has not been designed to be secure. IE now, it's a different story. Actually I think IE8 use the same security model than Chrome (the browser), each tab/window gets it's own process, same with plugins no ? I actually don't know enough of IE to really talk about this...
It boasts a new UI ? Compared to what ? Chromium browser ? Previous version of Chromium ? Another OS ? Sentences starting with "it will" and "it is going to" are just useless. It is designed to be secure, like all other browsers/OS and it will be full of bugs like all other browsers/OS which are going to make it a lot less secure. Nothing interesting there for me.
Agree with you, but Flash Lite support is not going to help with your crippled web site. I can take a Nokia with Flash Lite and my video on YouTube still doesn't work. You need full Flash support + plugin to get no crippled web site
Don't know if it's a serious question or not, but the answer is yes, it works with both. All command line stuff is there. You compile your Java with Android compiler, deploy the result to the emulator using command line if you want. If I remember correctly it's even based on Ant.
I did a project for the Android Challenge. I'm working with a Mac and Eclipse is not the most user friendly IDE on this platform. The process is smooth enough, forget about Linux, it's all Java based. I do Java stuff 10h a day so I felt right at home. It takes a couple of days to feel right about the suggested class design. Appart from that, I felt it was all very standard stuff, nothing really amazing, persistence is nice enough with sqlite but that's about it. You won't find any major revolution in there, it's very close to a simple standard Java application. So I didn't do more code since (it was based on SDK 1.1 if I remember correctly) and since I didn't even win the right to carry on with the Challenge, I left everything as it was (I got good technical marks, but the profitability of the idea wasn't there...). You see, if you didn't win somehow you didn't have access to the new SDK, unlike all the other lucky bastards. So why bother... Now I've got to get back to the Web SDK of the iPhone and the CSS transformations, these are rocking my days (actually more my nights).
Let's wait for the 75$ netbook then. Don't hold your breath. And good luck to you if you feel like an entrepreneur and start a business renting netbooks for what 2$ an hour ? What would be the purpose for an hour ? Quick Word document ? I just left my doc on this netbook ! Quick Google doc ? Oups, you have to pay for the Internet. I'm all for technology to help fight poverty, but even netbooks are out of this league. If you talk about telephones now that might be interesting (not smartphones).
Don't want to break your dreams there, but there is still today about 3 billions people living with less than 2$ a day, the moderate poverty range. I don't think your netbooks will appeal to these people. But the reasoning is correct I believe, it's just that only a billion and half are in-between...
I didn't realize this. Even if Intel didn't announce these new processors yet (well, that's according to the media) ? That's something I didn't know. Very interesting.
Actually I checked the references available in your link and it looks like I can't find the one used by Apple (E5500 and E3500). Maybe they are just family references used by Apple, as your link goes to a E5520...
This little discussion could have been avoided as well if you checked the Mac Pro which was the subject of this thread, that you quickly forgot by the way.
I don't think I attacked anybody. And if you feel insulted be careful there is people out there really insulting others.
Now I'll have to go, I get tired of reading long comments based on silly word picking.
I forgot to write Intel as well... You know what you should write : "A Mac Pro doesn't have a Nehalem, it has an Intel Xeon Nehalem" Then I'll start to believe you have half a brain.
But yes, there is other Nehalem PC out there, just not the one you can find in the Mac Pro... And I heard there is even other Intel based PC out there. Amazing isn't it !
First, I'm no mac fanboy, just correcting wrongful statements Second, please refrain commenting on things you know nothing about.
You are showing that you don't know what's in a Mac Pro and what a XEON Nehalem processor is. So let me do a quick crash course : - Dell = 1 CPU = Nehalem (you got that part) - Mac Pro = 2 CPU = Xeon Nehalem Nehalem without Xeon means no 2 CPUs possible Are you starting to get the picture as well?
Sure, sending me to the homepage of Dell is a strong argument. And don't tell me you didn't realize we were talking about Xeon Nehalem because that would mean that didn't even check the spec of the Mac Pro ! Here, I'll help you a little : http://www.infoworld.com/article/09/03/03/Apple_jumpstarts_Nehalem_launch_for_Intel_1.html Now please go back playing with your toys.
You'll have to look for a while as the Mac Pro is the only PC available today on the market with a Nehalem processor. But keep shouting, somebody might believe you.
Wrong, Apple has a real Web API for the iPhone. Check iPhone SDK for Web Developers video and Safari on iPhone Part 1, 2 and 3 in ADC on iTunes (iPhone Tech Talks). They even have extensions to CSS (submitted to the W3C) allowing you to create animations programmatically which are _hardware_ accelerated when rendered in Safari, only works on iPhone. Daringfireball.net has a blog entry about this lately. Looks like a lot of people are just picking up this amazing API. I'm finishing my app for the app store based in this.
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Another one who think he is smarter than the team who has made Apple the only company in the world to sit on top of more than 100 billion in cash. Please apply your great strategy to your own business and let others enjoy the consequences of their "mistakes". Good laugh though.
So let me get this straight, this phone is not out yet (so we can't reproduce this benchmark) but it's already slower than a phone that has been out for month... Performance is for sure something I would not emphasize if I was Google or LG
You shouldn't be allowed to post on Slashdot if you are stopped by the wrong screwdriver
Then, if the user so chooses to set foot into Mordor, there can be a tier of apps that are downloadable almost immediately, and pulled if people justifiably report it as malicious.
That's called jailbreaking.
I didn't see Apple taking a strong stance against this.
They did say it was wrong and bad and talked a lot, but no real action was taken against jailbreaking.
You should tell that to the 40 expat who have been sent back home so far this year, they were considered "too expensive"
But it's true I'm white.
But my boss is not white.
On a more general note, I think expat are mostly respectful foreigners.
We are not here for long usually and we didn't choose the destination.
We just want to fit in and know very well we are spoiled compare to locals.
I was in Japan during the earthquake and was outraged at the way we were treated compare to locals.
No, but it looks like we are a lot in the same boat
Maybe it's irony, but moderating +5 Informative something like "reading The Economist" is showing something about the current Slashdot, why not the Wall Street Journal right? There is "Wall Street" in the name it must be good to get a finance job!! Yes it's the usual rant.
Anyway, I've been in IT finance for the past 7 years, one of the main european financial institution.
I can code but I'm no math head and have no special social skills (appart from applying good advices you can find from trustful resources that you should already know). I've been expat in 3 different countries and I'm now in Singapore, moved to project manager 4 years ago and soon getting a nice promotion to switch to accounting control. I bet you don't understand how that can be a promotion, I wouldn't have either 7 years ago.
But outside this, if you can code, you know how the various business of retail or investment bank are working and you did bet on the right technology you'll find a job easily. Here it's all Java if you want to have a nice job. Short term, low budget crap is using PHP/Whatever tech being evaluated at the moment.
One warning though, this investment bank is very conservative, that is I'm typing this on a WinXP cousin made for the bank and have no idea if or when we'll switch to something more actual. New technology get about 3 or 4 years approval time, so you either stick with standards (IBM, Oracle) or you can forget about the latest fun technology for your time spent in the office.
Outside this small detail, I obviously love this job and the people here and all over the countries I've been sent to.
And please, prepare properly for interviewing and do you research before contacting me, if you are interested.
Ok, you are right on the "not produced by Apple", it's true.
When I talk about developer.apple.com, I'm more thinking in terms of framework like Core Data, Core Audio, OpenCL, Quartz, that you can find on the iPhone as well and are changing the way apps are done. The success of all these iPhone apps is tightly linked with the fact that you can create pretty apps easily and quickly...
You can put together a GUI or app quickly with Python and Gnome on OS X as well... That's my point. As long as 1 person thinks Cocoa and Objective-C is better it's a more useful platform to work with.
We are all Mac users for different reasons, like Slashdot has actually many different opinions.
But saying that Apple has never produced anything remotely as useful as the open source software movement doesn't make any sense. Most of MacOS X code is based on open source (as you said). So I can do as much as you can with your Linux/BSD box, how can that be less useful ?
And if you add all the stuff Apple added on top of the open source core (and that's an awful lot, have a look at developer.apple.com for information) you'll realise that this is actually more useful... No ?
Windows since NT version has been designed to be secure. Really I think they had a good shot at it. The result is not impressive, but they tried. If you are talking about bloat and bad decision leading to complex issues, I agree with you. But you can't say that a modern version of Windows has not been designed to be secure.
IE now, it's a different story. Actually I think IE8 use the same security model than Chrome (the browser), each tab/window gets it's own process, same with plugins no ? I actually don't know enough of IE to really talk about this...
It boasts a new UI ? Compared to what ? Chromium browser ? Previous version of Chromium ? Another OS ?
Sentences starting with "it will" and "it is going to" are just useless.
It is designed to be secure, like all other browsers/OS and it will be full of bugs like all other browsers/OS which are going to make it a lot less secure.
Nothing interesting there for me.
Agree with you, but Flash Lite support is not going to help with your crippled web site. I can take a Nokia with Flash Lite and my video on YouTube still doesn't work. You need full Flash support + plugin to get no crippled web site
Don't know if it's a serious question or not, but the answer is yes, it works with both. All command line stuff is there. You compile your Java with Android compiler, deploy the result to the emulator using command line if you want. If I remember correctly it's even based on Ant.
I did a project for the Android Challenge.
I'm working with a Mac and Eclipse is not the most user friendly IDE on this platform.
The process is smooth enough, forget about Linux, it's all Java based. I do Java stuff 10h a day so I felt right at home. It takes a couple of days to feel right about the suggested class design. Appart from that, I felt it was all very standard stuff, nothing really amazing, persistence is nice enough with sqlite but that's about it. You won't find any major revolution in there, it's very close to a simple standard Java application. So I didn't do more code since (it was based on SDK 1.1 if I remember correctly) and since I didn't even win the right to carry on with the Challenge, I left everything as it was (I got good technical marks, but the profitability of the idea wasn't there...). You see, if you didn't win somehow you didn't have access to the new SDK, unlike all the other lucky bastards. So why bother...
Now I've got to get back to the Web SDK of the iPhone and the CSS transformations, these are rocking my days (actually more my nights).
Let's wait for the 75$ netbook then. Don't hold your breath.
And good luck to you if you feel like an entrepreneur and start a business renting netbooks for what 2$ an hour ? What would be the purpose for an hour ? Quick Word document ? I just left my doc on this netbook ! Quick Google doc ? Oups, you have to pay for the Internet.
I'm all for technology to help fight poverty, but even netbooks are out of this league. If you talk about telephones now that might be interesting (not smartphones).
I think you missed the fine title of my comment : what is the reason ?
The article doesn't mention why they fired him. Might not even be related. If it is, maybe we should wait for an explanation ?
Don't want to break your dreams there, but there is still today about 3 billions people living with less than 2$ a day, the moderate poverty range. I don't think your netbooks will appeal to these people. But the reasoning is correct I believe, it's just that only a billion and half are in-between...
I didn't realize this. Even if Intel didn't announce these new processors yet (well, that's according to the media) ? That's something I didn't know. Very interesting.
Actually I checked the references available in your link and it looks like I can't find the one used by Apple (E5500 and E3500). Maybe they are just family references used by Apple, as your link goes to a E5520...
This little discussion could have been avoided as well if you checked the Mac Pro which was the subject of this thread, that you quickly forgot by the way.
I don't think I attacked anybody. And if you feel insulted be careful there is people out there really insulting others.
Now I'll have to go, I get tired of reading long comments based on silly word picking.
I forgot to write Intel as well...
You know what you should write :
"A Mac Pro doesn't have a Nehalem, it has an Intel Xeon Nehalem"
Then I'll start to believe you have half a brain.
But yes, there is other Nehalem PC out there, just not the one you can find in the Mac Pro... And I heard there is even other Intel based PC out there. Amazing isn't it !
First, I'm no mac fanboy, just correcting wrongful statements
Second, please refrain commenting on things you know nothing about.
You are showing that you don't know what's in a Mac Pro and what a XEON Nehalem processor is.
So let me do a quick crash course :
- Dell = 1 CPU = Nehalem (you got that part)
- Mac Pro = 2 CPU = Xeon Nehalem
Nehalem without Xeon means no 2 CPUs possible
Are you starting to get the picture as well?
Sure, sending me to the homepage of Dell is a strong argument. And don't tell me you didn't realize we were talking about Xeon Nehalem because that would mean that didn't even check the spec of the Mac Pro !
Here, I'll help you a little :
http://www.infoworld.com/article/09/03/03/Apple_jumpstarts_Nehalem_launch_for_Intel_1.html
Now please go back playing with your toys.
You'll have to look for a while as the Mac Pro is the only PC available today on the market with a Nehalem processor. But keep shouting, somebody might believe you.
Wrong, Apple has a real Web API for the iPhone. Check iPhone SDK for Web Developers video and Safari on iPhone Part 1, 2 and 3 in ADC on iTunes (iPhone Tech Talks).
They even have extensions to CSS (submitted to the W3C) allowing you to create animations programmatically which are _hardware_ accelerated when rendered in Safari, only works on iPhone.
Daringfireball.net has a blog entry about this lately. Looks like a lot of people are just picking up this amazing API. I'm finishing my app for the app store based in this.