I've been doing C++ on and off (mostly on) for 14+ years and have never seen the need for a goto (although I do use the pseudo-gotos: break and continue).
Of course, it's my opinion that exceptions are worse than gotos in some ways, because they are come-from, so I'm guessing I'm out of the mainstream there.
Memory is not the issue here. Turbo Pascal was designed to run in a single 64K 8086 segment
Turbo Pascal (version 1 of which I used) post-dates the original Adventure by some 5 years or more, I'm not sure how much RAM he would have had to work with, but 64kB isn't out of the question.
With regard to things "considered dangerous", Dijkstra hadn't seen anything yet.:-)
Windows 95 - dragged kicking and screaming when I started getting software that wouldn't run on Windows 3 NT 3.51 - a few months later, much rejoicing NT 4.0 - huge improvement, used it from beta 1 on Windows 2000 - I felt MS were in quality free-fall and 2000 would be a complete disaster. I was wrong. XP - Never bothered until I bought a machine with it installed. Immediately realized it wasn't bad like I expected it to be minus that aesthetic crime against nature that was Luna, eventually realized it was quite good for Windows, but switched to Ubuntu eventually Vista - completely indifferent, bought a new laptop with Vista installed, tried to give a fair shake, found it offered _nothing_ new and added a lot of hassles, performance was bad (of course, I installed Ubuntu about a day later, but kept Vista around on a small partition for a couple games).
Vista should have never happened, and people in the know are rightly treating it like it never happened.
My understanding is that photons, having no mass, follow (if I'm using the term correctly, IANAP) a null geodesic through space, which when passing by a gravitational source is not a Euclidean straight line because of general relativity, causing the lensing effect. The photons are not affected by gravity but rather they follow a straight line in space that is curved around the object.
That's my understanding, but if that is shown to be incorrect, I'll be the first to admit I don't know what I'm talking about.
You're right. Vista sucks. My new laptop has it, and I left it on a small partition just for games, although I usually run games that are old enough to work fine in Wine or a Windows 2000 VM. Explorer still sucks as much as it did in 1995, although at least it doesn't crash constantly. Performance is sluggish, and I am sick to death of "Allow/Cancel". Vista offers little new and nothing compelling, but the fact of the matter is, a 100MHz Pentium running Windows 95 with 32MB of RAM was enough computer for 95% of users 10 years ago, and a Dual Core 1.8GHz AMD64 with 512MB of RAM runs Vista with about the same (crappy) performance and capability, but it's still enough computer for 95% of users, and for that reason, and the fact that Vista will sell millions of units bundled with new computers will be enough for Microsoft to coast through another few years of their OS monopoly despite offering nothing new but bloat and mediocrity. MS doesn't have to excel because they can still coast on past success for at least another 5 years. Will Linux continue to bypass Windows in terms of functionality, flexibility and ease of use? Sure, but Windows is like a public utility, it's just there, and you have to go through a lot of trouble (from an average user's point of view) to get an alternative.
We've all heard of it, but the music industry still wants to pretend it doesn't exist so they can continue in the delusion that their _19th_ century distribution methods are only way for them to get the latest excretion from their marketing-driven "artists" into your hot little hands.
I guess it needs to be said....
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The point I'm trying to make is that everything is payola today. Programming lists are all determined by the media companies and popularity is manufactured rather than emerging from, you know, people actually liking stuff. It's nothing new, but it's far more pervasive than ever.
Except in the old days, when the process wasn't completely driven by corporate marketing, occasionally something interesting, truly creative or outright weird would become popular. Back in the days when payola was the exception instead of the status quo creativity occasionally emerged from the morass.
Back when some artists actually had talent and weren't just by-products of a marketing machine, something unique could possibly evolve. People used to deride the Monkees for not playing their own instruments (at first), but those guys had some talent were virtuosi compared to what's being churned out now. People forget they went on do real work without Bryce and Hart, or session musoes. Besides, prefab or not, they packed more fun and harmony in a single song than the entire Top 40 in this post-melodic age of ours.
It's a good thing that there is the Internet, because despite Sir Elton's Luddite and naive complaints, _good_ music is thriving _because_ of the Internet, not despite it. He's got the credibility to comment on "real music" because he was putting out "real music" before most of us were born, and has produced more truly good material all by himself (well, with his pal Bernie) than whole genres these days. He can do more _music_ with a single piano and his voice than an army of production engineers armed with ProTools and more Macs than Steve Jobs. But in this instance, I think he's completely wrong. Of course anyone can produce music now. Hell, _I've_ composed and produced some songs. And a lot of it is utter crap, but with a little diligence, you can search the crap to unearth real gems more numerous than at any time in history. You just won't hear it on the radio but real music by real musicians is easier to find than ever, if you are willing to look past the plastic-fantastic prefab Madison Avenue zombie fodder. Turn off the TV, turn on an independent radio station, join a mailing list for your favorite group, Google "independent" or "progressive" music, explore places like eMusic.com (free samples, but not free to download, no DRM) or Jamendo.com (free, Creative Commons-type licensing) and you will find a whole world only glimpsed by a few but richer than you have ever known. iTunes sucks... I can't even find some stuff I consider "mainstream" leave alone actually explore music on iTunes or Napster or the other mainline music retailers.
It seems we are overly obsessed with throwing people in jail lately.
No, corporations are overly obsessed with abusing their excessive power over the government to prosecute customers who are affected by their mistakes, anyone who gets in their way, or whomever they simply feel like prosecuting.
Most people (99%) just want to leave others alone and to be left alone.
Is NTFS fully supported for R/W under Linux? Would you trust your data to something that had to be reverse-engineered to a Microsoft standard? If your answer is yes to both of those, you either know something I don't or are completely missing the point. (I hope it's the former.)
NTFS is great... I've been using it exclusively with Windows for something like 12 years, but I don't use Windows much these days.
Thanks for the cultural insight. I think I would tend to get along well with Finns. In fact, your description seems to fit well with a lot of non-Finnish, but smart, hardcore developers I have known.
Everyone complains (rightly so) about ATI's Linux drivers, but my last laptop had ATI graphics and it wouldn't even run 3D games right in Windows. I was never able to resolve the problem and I made darn sure my newest laptop has nVidia. I hated ATI back in the Windows 3 days, and it seems their drivers are still as awful as ever. This used to be a typical hardware manufacturers' attitude of thinking drivers aren't important: Most companies have been smart enough to realize how stupid that is.
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I've been doing C++ on and off (mostly on) for 14+ years and have never seen the need for a goto (although I do use the pseudo-gotos: break and continue).
Of course, it's my opinion that exceptions are worse than gotos in some ways, because they are come-from, so I'm guessing I'm out of the mainstream there.
Memory is not the issue here. Turbo Pascal was designed to run in a single 64K 8086 segment
:-)
Turbo Pascal (version 1 of which I used) post-dates the original Adventure by some 5 years or more, I'm not sure how much RAM he would have had to work with, but 64kB isn't out of the question.
With regard to things "considered dangerous", Dijkstra hadn't seen anything yet.
Shut up and take your blue pill.
In fairness, George Lucas scratching his fully-exposed balls would have been an improvement over the Prequels
Isn't that more or less what the Prequels were?
Funny, with me it was...
Windows 95 - dragged kicking and screaming when I started getting software that wouldn't run on Windows 3
NT 3.51 - a few months later, much rejoicing
NT 4.0 - huge improvement, used it from beta 1 on
Windows 2000 - I felt MS were in quality free-fall and 2000 would be a complete disaster. I was wrong.
XP - Never bothered until I bought a machine with it installed. Immediately realized it wasn't bad like I expected it to be minus that aesthetic crime against nature that was Luna, eventually realized it was quite good for Windows, but switched to Ubuntu eventually
Vista - completely indifferent, bought a new laptop with Vista installed, tried to give a fair shake, found it offered _nothing_ new and added a lot of hassles, performance was bad (of course, I installed Ubuntu about a day later, but kept Vista around on a small partition for a couple games).
Vista should have never happened, and people in the know are rightly treating it like it never happened.
My understanding is that photons, having no mass, follow (if I'm using the term correctly, IANAP) a null geodesic through space, which when passing by a gravitational source is not a Euclidean straight line because of general relativity, causing the lensing effect. The photons are not affected by gravity but rather they follow a straight line in space that is curved around the object.
That's my understanding, but if that is shown to be incorrect, I'll be the first to admit I don't know what I'm talking about.
You're right. Vista sucks. My new laptop has it, and I left it on a small partition just for games, although I usually run games that are old enough to work fine in Wine or a Windows 2000 VM. Explorer still sucks as much as it did in 1995, although at least it doesn't crash constantly. Performance is sluggish, and I am sick to death of "Allow/Cancel". Vista offers little new and nothing compelling, but the fact of the matter is, a 100MHz Pentium running Windows 95 with 32MB of RAM was enough computer for 95% of users 10 years ago, and a Dual Core 1.8GHz AMD64 with 512MB of RAM runs Vista with about the same (crappy) performance and capability, but it's still enough computer for 95% of users, and for that reason, and the fact that Vista will sell millions of units bundled with new computers will be enough for Microsoft to coast through another few years of their OS monopoly despite offering nothing new but bloat and mediocrity. MS doesn't have to excel because they can still coast on past success for at least another 5 years. Will Linux continue to bypass Windows in terms of functionality, flexibility and ease of use? Sure, but Windows is like a public utility, it's just there, and you have to go through a lot of trouble (from an average user's point of view) to get an alternative.
We've all heard of it, but the music industry still wants to pretend it doesn't exist so they can continue in the delusion that their _19th_ century distribution methods are only way for them to get the latest excretion from their marketing-driven "artists" into your hot little hands.
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Photons have mass? That's news to me. I need to go back to school.
If ~90% of Congress wants it, they can easily override a veto. This President has only vetoed bills once or twice ever.
In the case of immigration "reform", the people made their voices heard and the "reform" collapsed like the house of cards it was.
The system isn't completely broken... yet.
What do you expect from the network which took pride in being the mouthpiece for a mass murderer? Truly, truly scum of the earth.
The point I'm trying to make is that everything is payola today. Programming lists are all determined by the media companies and popularity is manufactured rather than emerging from, you know, people actually liking stuff. It's nothing new, but it's far more pervasive than ever.
MS Works came on most of the laptops I've bought and I can say with confidence that the uninstall function works just fine.
I have nothing against filling the harddrive with a bunch of shovelware as long as it uninstalls cleanly.
+++OUT OF CHEESE ERROR+++ REDO FROM START +++
Make sure your computer has the "Anthill Inside" label.
Me? I'm running a 66 megalith stone circle.
Never heard 'em... but I've listened to the Ramones! :-)
Ten times as cool with half the chords.
Except in the old days, when the process wasn't completely driven by corporate marketing, occasionally something interesting, truly creative or outright weird would become popular. Back in the days when payola was the exception instead of the status quo creativity occasionally emerged from the morass.
Back when some artists actually had talent and weren't just by-products of a marketing machine, something unique could possibly evolve. People used to deride the Monkees for not playing their own instruments (at first), but those guys had some talent were virtuosi compared to what's being churned out now. People forget they went on do real work without Bryce and Hart, or session musoes. Besides, prefab or not, they packed more fun and harmony in a single song than the entire Top 40 in this post-melodic age of ours.
It's a good thing that there is the Internet, because despite Sir Elton's Luddite and naive complaints, _good_ music is thriving _because_ of the Internet, not despite it. He's got the credibility to comment on "real music" because he was putting out "real music" before most of us were born, and has produced more truly good material all by himself (well, with his pal Bernie) than whole genres these days. He can do more _music_ with a single piano and his voice than an army of production engineers armed with ProTools and more Macs than Steve Jobs. But in this instance, I think he's completely wrong. Of course anyone can produce music now. Hell, _I've_ composed and produced some songs. And a lot of it is utter crap, but with a little diligence, you can search the crap to unearth real gems more numerous than at any time in history. You just won't hear it on the radio but real music by real musicians is easier to find than ever, if you are willing to look past the plastic-fantastic prefab Madison Avenue zombie fodder. Turn off the TV, turn on an independent radio station, join a mailing list for your favorite group, Google "independent" or "progressive" music, explore places like eMusic.com (free samples, but not free to download, no DRM) or Jamendo.com (free, Creative Commons-type licensing) and you will find a whole world only glimpsed by a few but richer than you have ever known. iTunes sucks... I can't even find some stuff I consider "mainstream" leave alone actually explore music on iTunes or Napster or the other mainline music retailers.
In _my_ day, we only had white keys, and could only afford one octave. Sharps and flats hadn't been invented yet.
The only thing I can imagine would do it is some pandemic virus that makes everyone tone deaf.
That's funny. Listening to what passes for popular music these days, I'd've thought that already happened.
It seems we are overly obsessed with throwing people in jail lately.
No, corporations are overly obsessed with abusing their excessive power over the government to prosecute customers who are affected by their mistakes, anyone who gets in their way, or whomever they simply feel like prosecuting.
Most people (99%) just want to leave others alone and to be left alone.
Is NTFS fully supported for R/W under Linux? Would you trust your data to something that had to be reverse-engineered to a Microsoft standard? If your answer is yes to both of those, you either know something I don't or are completely missing the point. (I hope it's the former.)
NTFS is great... I've been using it exclusively with Windows for something like 12 years, but I don't use Windows much these days.
Thanks for the cultural insight. I think I would tend to get along well with Finns. In fact, your description seems to fit well with a lot of non-Finnish, but smart, hardcore developers I have known.
"Malwear"?
Is that like hostile pants or something?
Do you intend to write on carbon paper... with a pencil? Something tells me this won't go very well.
:-)
It may just make the paper thicker.
Everyone complains (rightly so) about ATI's Linux drivers, but my last laptop had ATI graphics and it wouldn't even run 3D games right in Windows. I was never able to resolve the problem and I made darn sure my newest laptop has nVidia. I hated ATI back in the Windows 3 days, and it seems their drivers are still as awful as ever. This used to be a typical hardware manufacturers' attitude of thinking drivers aren't important: Most companies have been smart enough to realize how stupid that is.