The short of it is (you can look up the details), is that US bankers made a fortune off of loaning money to both sides during the civil war. The used their money and influence to get some judge to endow corporation with many of the legal rights that individuals have, yet maintain their limited liability. Corruption gained them the best of both worlds. There wasn't some good reason for it.
I say if you want the right of an individual, don't incorporate. It's not the only way of doing business. Losing those rights is the price you pay in exchange for limited liability. With less responsibility, comes less rights. That's not the way it is here and it just gives the lefties an excuse to bash capitalism. They should be bashing their government instead. Corporations are a legal entity more than a business entity.
There are many good reason to not have one, as other have posted, but I think most people's aversion to it comes from our lingering WWII/Cold War mentality. Having to show someone your papers was always considered a big difference between living in a free society and a totalitarian one. That's why there's such an extreme reaction against it. The hypocrisy hasn't been lost on some and those people haven't adapted to the "new freedom" quickly enough for it to go by without a debate.
I cannot accept that as a patriot and an American. Once we accept that as truth, we've effectively disenfranchised ourselves and the treatment we get is what we deserve.
So a mugger steals your wallet. If you can accept that he doesn't care about your opinion on the mugging, then do you deserve the mugging? Would you waste time writing a letter to him, politely asking for your money back. What? No you wouldn't? Well then you deserve to be mugged by your logic.
You can't disenfranchise yourself if you were never enfranchised to begin with. Anything you do to protest is about making yourself feel better. You'd have to have been in a comma the last 7 years to not realize that Homeland Security doesn't give a fuck what you think. Just ask someone who's permanently stuck on a "do not fly" list if DHS cares.
And don't underestimate the negative effect of force. If you outright force people to watch an ad, they will connect no good feelings with it. So far, what makes people accept ads is that they enjoy the program around them and that they're in a generally good mood when they watch an ad.
This is so very true. I am a TV junkie. Before Tivo, I use to flip out when commercials came on cause I had seen them all a million times before. To this day, I still haven't gone to a Taco Bell since those "drop the chulupa" commercials, when that commercial aired twice, every commercial break, for every show, for like a year. That was a long time ago, but they annoyed me so much that I've carried my informal boycott to this day. And a lot of times, I couldn't even tell you what a repetitive commercial was even for (even after seeing it hundreds of times) because something in my brain was automatically tuning it out. It was like having a built in Tivo. Repetition was certainly not working then, it was having the opposite effect. And sometimes the lengthy commercial breaks would distract me to the point where I would leave the room to do other things, thereby no longer watching the show.
Now that I operate off of downloads or fast forward through most commercials, I've noticed something different. Of course I still catch commercials now and then. Sometimes, I'm not near the remote or just need a break. But now every commercial is new like during the superbowl. When I watch them, I pay more careful attention and am no longer pissed at the company. I can even enjoy them now, something I would have never thought was possible. They have such a greater impact on me and I think advertisers need to understand this instead of crying about people fast forwarding.
I can't argue with that. But I guess I'm not as eager to reexperience life as I am looking to experience the things that I haven't yet. And although having kids is one of those things, it seems like the last thing you do and your life revolves around them from that point. It's always seemed like a kind of suicide to me.
It's also hard to call it selfless, cause people don't have kids for the sake of those unborn kids. They have em cause they want them. I love my parents, but I never felt like I owed them for a decision they made without my input. In fact, given where the world is heading and all the horrifying public education stories I read, I actually think it's selfish to have kids (not judging others, just my own personal view). The next generation will have it SO much harder than this one, and we'll have it hard enough as is.
Thanks for your perspective though. This is something I've been trying hard to understand lately.
Ok, but take sex out of the equation and consider your actual best friend. Outside of college, would you really want to live with them? I have very close, dear friends that I've known for 20 years. We are very much like family. However, after a few hours of them, I've had my fill for a little while. Now, women are best friends who nag and don't quite understand your passions. Techies surely don't have as much in common with their wives as they do their other techie friends, so I never bought the best friend argument. Having roommates is always a pain, regardless of who it is. I don't understand how a marriage certificate makes it any less of a pain. The irony of all of this is that I'm officiating the wedding of a close friend in two months and I can't really ask this of him.
I guess I do get the "sharing life experiences" part since I travel a lot. But I wouldn't have been able to afford half of those life experiences if I had to pay for two. And I doubt any wife of mine would be as up for stuff like traipsing around the back alleys of Cairo late night either. I would love to share my life experiences, I just don't think I would have had the more interesting ones if I was trying to share them at the time.
We got enough to spare. And people don't have children to ensure the survival of mankind. I know people feel a sense of immortality when it comes to children, but in a few generations, you will surely be forgotten so it comes across as a false sense to me. All I get are platitudes and flip answers. I don't think people put much thought into it. They just turn their lives upside down cause everyone else is doing it. I still don't see the upside unless you live in a society where you depend on your children to survive. Why do westerners go down this path?
Perhaps someone could explain the upside of family to me then. Seriously. I'm unlike everyone else I know because I have little interest in answering to a wife or taking care of kids every minute. I'm so swamped now, even without them, that I never have enough time for all the fun and fulfilling projects I work on. So outside of sex, and having someone to go out to eat with, what precisely is the appeal of marriage for everyone? No one ever regrets their kids, but kids also seem to suck the life out of everyone I've met. They just have this droning voice and distant stare as they say they don't ever regret it. I truly wish I could understand this better. Everyone else seems to just get it. Are they posing or am I just that disconnected?
you can't get extradited for anything minor, where the extradition itself would be more punishment than the crime is worth
Aren't there several cases, related to holocaust denial, that have gotten people extradited to Germany? I think it's kind of stupid to deny the holocaust, but then I'd certainly consider a thought crime to be too minor to even warrant a fine, much less extradition and jail time.
From inside the US, I see a bunch of left-wingers arguing with another bunch of left-wingers. People on the right are for less government. People on the left believe government is best at solving our problems. Bush has brought us more government than any liberal. My hatred for him has made me more conservative than ever. The only right-wing person running for president now is Ron Paul, but he's already getting shut out of the debates. We may not be tree-hugging left over here, but we are definitely big government left, and that is what ultimately led to this article.
If you include people too dismayed to vote anymore, then the majority of Americans did not vote these clowns in office. You can protest and vote third party, but at the end of the day, it won't make a difference (republicrats control the committees). And it won't matter if the next president is a democrat. Mark my words, whomever it is, they will further expand presidential authority. The executive office itself has become a tyranny, it doesn't matter who's chairing it. As more power gets concentrated in one place, more evil people will be drawn to it. Good people will stay away to avoid all of the lies and compromises they would have to make in order to satisfy the hoopleheads. America will just have to run its course at this point and hope that the next incarnation will address the current governments' shortcomings.
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So I think I understand, in death, we CAN reverse engineer meatloafs' fake boobs.
HD movies are typically recompressed down anywhere from 4 to 9 gigs. Even the 9 gigers are only going take about three hours to download. It's the bandwidth, not the time that's the limiting factor. Especially with companies like Comcast cutting people off for excessive usage.
I've simply never backed a politician, where I haven't come to regret it. People get into this game in search of power, nothing else. And if you look at their history, Bill & Hillary's relationship has always been about pursuing power. It doesn't matter whether they are Republicans or Democrats, they're all dark and twisted.
As for my point about love, I meant that you can never truly know a person. Perhaps I'm not the best person to analyze it since, as you've said, I haven't met the right person yet, and quite frankly I have little interest in being in a romantic relationship. But whenever I talk to one half of a couple, it becomes clear to me within minutes that half their life involves lying to the other in one form or another. Now they usually lie out of "love" (or simply keep their mouths shut) but most relationships seem phony to me because of it. I'm sure they feel love towards each other, I just think many (if not all) relationships fail because the other person turns out not to be the person they fell in love with to begin with. And since the vast majority of relationships fail, I don't think I'm that far off on this. The "right" person always seems to be the current person until they're not "right" anymore. However, I'm not knocking people in love. People find happiness in their own ways.
At best, they've moved the problem to a different place, and put others at risk that hadn't been at risk before.
Yeah, but then he has to go through all the trouble to make a new map, create the bots, level up again, etc. They're at least safe until he gets all that done.
i call bullshit. too expensive? so they would rather lose a days worth of sales
I absolutely believe that. I work for a major company that everyone is familiar with and I've been making this argument for years. In fact, it's even worse than that. We're losing data because we're working with 10 gigabyte disks that fill up before we can even process all the data we need to process. I use to bring up the fact that a 500 gig disks go for $150 and I should know, since my salary has paid for quite a few. Management always trails off with, well, then we'd have to justify it and that's a long a difficult process. Meanwhile, we give literally millions away to our competitors (and often even our corporate secrets) in exchange for nothing more that the privilege of being able to say we're partnered with them.
It has nothing to do with right or wrong or even the money, I can even convince management that it's right. It's just that large organizations are so bureaucratic, that they can't even get the simplest things done. Managers spend every waking moment in useless meetings and don't have time to argue for things that aren't exciting to their bosses. I've simply given up trying to do things right. It's a paycheck and I'm only rocking the boat but trying to protect those over me. I get the pleasure of having things done right through taking care of my personal server, workstation and HTPC. My backups, will NEVER fail.
Correct me if I'm wrong, it's been a while since I lived backed east, but isn't there a toll like every mile or two on the turnpike? How the hell did they manage that? Or was this one of them "construction" projects I hear about on the Sopranos?
I have no idea if the increase in drag will dominate over the increase in efficiency by reclaiming lost energy
Either way, you're talking about a transfer of wealth from the drivers to someone else. It's not as if the crooks who run that toll ridden turnpike are going to give the drivers a discount on their gas for this.
There was no copy protection on the HD shows I was watching last night. I had to pay for the rabbit ears, but other than that, I was getting better than DVD quality, legally, for free, with no DRM.
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The short of it is (you can look up the details), is that US bankers made a fortune off of loaning money to both sides during the civil war. The used their money and influence to get some judge to endow corporation with many of the legal rights that individuals have, yet maintain their limited liability. Corruption gained them the best of both worlds. There wasn't some good reason for it.
I say if you want the right of an individual, don't incorporate. It's not the only way of doing business. Losing those rights is the price you pay in exchange for limited liability. With less responsibility, comes less rights. That's not the way it is here and it just gives the lefties an excuse to bash capitalism. They should be bashing their government instead. Corporations are a legal entity more than a business entity.
There are many good reason to not have one, as other have posted, but I think most people's aversion to it comes from our lingering WWII/Cold War mentality. Having to show someone your papers was always considered a big difference between living in a free society and a totalitarian one. That's why there's such an extreme reaction against it. The hypocrisy hasn't been lost on some and those people haven't adapted to the "new freedom" quickly enough for it to go by without a debate.
I cannot accept that as a patriot and an American. Once we accept that as truth, we've effectively disenfranchised ourselves and the treatment we get is what we deserve.
So a mugger steals your wallet. If you can accept that he doesn't care about your opinion on the mugging, then do you deserve the mugging? Would you waste time writing a letter to him, politely asking for your money back. What? No you wouldn't? Well then you deserve to be mugged by your logic.
You can't disenfranchise yourself if you were never enfranchised to begin with. Anything you do to protest is about making yourself feel better. You'd have to have been in a comma the last 7 years to not realize that Homeland Security doesn't give a fuck what you think. Just ask someone who's permanently stuck on a "do not fly" list if DHS cares.
And don't underestimate the negative effect of force. If you outright force people to watch an ad, they will connect no good feelings with it. So far, what makes people accept ads is that they enjoy the program around them and that they're in a generally good mood when they watch an ad.
This is so very true. I am a TV junkie. Before Tivo, I use to flip out when commercials came on cause I had seen them all a million times before. To this day, I still haven't gone to a Taco Bell since those "drop the chulupa" commercials, when that commercial aired twice, every commercial break, for every show, for like a year. That was a long time ago, but they annoyed me so much that I've carried my informal boycott to this day. And a lot of times, I couldn't even tell you what a repetitive commercial was even for (even after seeing it hundreds of times) because something in my brain was automatically tuning it out. It was like having a built in Tivo. Repetition was certainly not working then, it was having the opposite effect. And sometimes the lengthy commercial breaks would distract me to the point where I would leave the room to do other things, thereby no longer watching the show.
Now that I operate off of downloads or fast forward through most commercials, I've noticed something different. Of course I still catch commercials now and then. Sometimes, I'm not near the remote or just need a break. But now every commercial is new like during the superbowl. When I watch them, I pay more careful attention and am no longer pissed at the company. I can even enjoy them now, something I would have never thought was possible. They have such a greater impact on me and I think advertisers need to understand this instead of crying about people fast forwarding.
I can't argue with that. But I guess I'm not as eager to reexperience life as I am looking to experience the things that I haven't yet. And although having kids is one of those things, it seems like the last thing you do and your life revolves around them from that point. It's always seemed like a kind of suicide to me.
It's also hard to call it selfless, cause people don't have kids for the sake of those unborn kids. They have em cause they want them. I love my parents, but I never felt like I owed them for a decision they made without my input. In fact, given where the world is heading and all the horrifying public education stories I read, I actually think it's selfish to have kids (not judging others, just my own personal view). The next generation will have it SO much harder than this one, and we'll have it hard enough as is.
Thanks for your perspective though. This is something I've been trying hard to understand lately.
Ok, but take sex out of the equation and consider your actual best friend. Outside of college, would you really want to live with them? I have very close, dear friends that I've known for 20 years. We are very much like family. However, after a few hours of them, I've had my fill for a little while. Now, women are best friends who nag and don't quite understand your passions. Techies surely don't have as much in common with their wives as they do their other techie friends, so I never bought the best friend argument. Having roommates is always a pain, regardless of who it is. I don't understand how a marriage certificate makes it any less of a pain. The irony of all of this is that I'm officiating the wedding of a close friend in two months and I can't really ask this of him.
I guess I do get the "sharing life experiences" part since I travel a lot. But I wouldn't have been able to afford half of those life experiences if I had to pay for two. And I doubt any wife of mine would be as up for stuff like traipsing around the back alleys of Cairo late night either. I would love to share my life experiences, I just don't think I would have had the more interesting ones if I was trying to share them at the time.
We got enough to spare. And people don't have children to ensure the survival of mankind. I know people feel a sense of immortality when it comes to children, but in a few generations, you will surely be forgotten so it comes across as a false sense to me. All I get are platitudes and flip answers. I don't think people put much thought into it. They just turn their lives upside down cause everyone else is doing it. I still don't see the upside unless you live in a society where you depend on your children to survive. Why do westerners go down this path?
Perhaps someone could explain the upside of family to me then. Seriously. I'm unlike everyone else I know because I have little interest in answering to a wife or taking care of kids every minute. I'm so swamped now, even without them, that I never have enough time for all the fun and fulfilling projects I work on. So outside of sex, and having someone to go out to eat with, what precisely is the appeal of marriage for everyone? No one ever regrets their kids, but kids also seem to suck the life out of everyone I've met. They just have this droning voice and distant stare as they say they don't ever regret it. I truly wish I could understand this better. Everyone else seems to just get it. Are they posing or am I just that disconnected?
you can't get extradited for anything minor, where the extradition itself would be more punishment than the crime is worth
Aren't there several cases, related to holocaust denial, that have gotten people extradited to Germany? I think it's kind of stupid to deny the holocaust, but then I'd certainly consider a thought crime to be too minor to even warrant a fine, much less extradition and jail time.
From inside the US, I see a bunch of left-wingers arguing with another bunch of left-wingers. People on the right are for less government. People on the left believe government is best at solving our problems. Bush has brought us more government than any liberal. My hatred for him has made me more conservative than ever. The only right-wing person running for president now is Ron Paul, but he's already getting shut out of the debates. We may not be tree-hugging left over here, but we are definitely big government left, and that is what ultimately led to this article.
If you include people too dismayed to vote anymore, then the majority of Americans did not vote these clowns in office. You can protest and vote third party, but at the end of the day, it won't make a difference (republicrats control the committees). And it won't matter if the next president is a democrat. Mark my words, whomever it is, they will further expand presidential authority. The executive office itself has become a tyranny, it doesn't matter who's chairing it. As more power gets concentrated in one place, more evil people will be drawn to it. Good people will stay away to avoid all of the lies and compromises they would have to make in order to satisfy the hoopleheads. America will just have to run its course at this point and hope that the next incarnation will address the current governments' shortcomings.
So I think I understand, in death, we CAN reverse engineer meatloafs' fake boobs.
HD movies are typically recompressed down anywhere from 4 to 9 gigs. Even the 9 gigers are only going take about three hours to download. It's the bandwidth, not the time that's the limiting factor. Especially with companies like Comcast cutting people off for excessive usage.
That kind of puts an end to any geriatric astronaut movement.
Now we can have worms that live FOREVER!
Might leave you with an unpleasant surprise when you finish eating that fish dinner however.
How is our great-grandkids' generation supposed to support millions of supercentenarians?
I dunno, sell drugs? Rob banks? There will be plenty of opportunities left for them. Now where's my prune juice?
Waiting around to die would suck.
Well, then I have some bad news for you...
I've simply never backed a politician, where I haven't come to regret it. People get into this game in search of power, nothing else. And if you look at their history, Bill & Hillary's relationship has always been about pursuing power. It doesn't matter whether they are Republicans or Democrats, they're all dark and twisted.
As for my point about love, I meant that you can never truly know a person. Perhaps I'm not the best person to analyze it since, as you've said, I haven't met the right person yet, and quite frankly I have little interest in being in a romantic relationship. But whenever I talk to one half of a couple, it becomes clear to me within minutes that half their life involves lying to the other in one form or another. Now they usually lie out of "love" (or simply keep their mouths shut) but most relationships seem phony to me because of it. I'm sure they feel love towards each other, I just think many (if not all) relationships fail because the other person turns out not to be the person they fell in love with to begin with. And since the vast majority of relationships fail, I don't think I'm that far off on this. The "right" person always seems to be the current person until they're not "right" anymore. However, I'm not knocking people in love. People find happiness in their own ways.
At best, they've moved the problem to a different place, and put others at risk that hadn't been at risk before.
Yeah, but then he has to go through all the trouble to make a new map, create the bots, level up again, etc. They're at least safe until he gets all that done.
God, remember when she was cool, and had convictions?
No, I really don't. It's just that you've finally opened your eyes. People don't love people. They love the idea of who they think those people are.
i call bullshit. too expensive? so they would rather lose a days worth of sales
I absolutely believe that. I work for a major company that everyone is familiar with and I've been making this argument for years. In fact, it's even worse than that. We're losing data because we're working with 10 gigabyte disks that fill up before we can even process all the data we need to process. I use to bring up the fact that a 500 gig disks go for $150 and I should know, since my salary has paid for quite a few. Management always trails off with, well, then we'd have to justify it and that's a long a difficult process. Meanwhile, we give literally millions away to our competitors (and often even our corporate secrets) in exchange for nothing more that the privilege of being able to say we're partnered with them.
It has nothing to do with right or wrong or even the money, I can even convince management that it's right. It's just that large organizations are so bureaucratic, that they can't even get the simplest things done. Managers spend every waking moment in useless meetings and don't have time to argue for things that aren't exciting to their bosses. I've simply given up trying to do things right. It's a paycheck and I'm only rocking the boat but trying to protect those over me. I get the pleasure of having things done right through taking care of my personal server, workstation and HTPC. My backups, will NEVER fail.
New Jersey actually lost money on EZPass
Correct me if I'm wrong, it's been a while since I lived backed east, but isn't there a toll like every mile or two on the turnpike? How the hell did they manage that? Or was this one of them "construction" projects I hear about on the Sopranos?
I have no idea if the increase in drag will dominate over the increase in efficiency by reclaiming lost energy
Either way, you're talking about a transfer of wealth from the drivers to someone else. It's not as if the crooks who run that toll ridden turnpike are going to give the drivers a discount on their gas for this.
Well, the .com address seems to be taken, but Godaddy has this address still available:
http://09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.tv/
It seems they don't practice what they preach.
There was no copy protection on the HD shows I was watching last night. I had to pay for the rabbit ears, but other than that, I was getting better than DVD quality, legally, for free, with no DRM.