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Censoring a Number

Rudd-O writes "Months after successful discovery of the HD-DVD processing key, an unprecedented campaign of censorship, in the form of DMCA takedown notices by the MPAA, has hit the Net. For example Spooky Action at a Distance was killed. More disturbingly, my story got Dugg twice, with the second wave hitting 15,500 votes, and today I found out it had simply disappeared from Digg. How long until the long arm of the MPAA gets to my own site (run in Ecuador) and the rest of them holding the processing key? How long will we let rampant censorship go on, in the name of economic interest?" How long before the magic 16-hex-pairs number shows up in a comment here?

1,046 comments

  1. Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

    1. Re:Not very long... by r3m0t · · Score: 3, Funny

      On the very first post, even!

      I guess everybody was scrambling to find it.

    2. Re:Not very long... by Major+Blud · · Score: 0

      Weird how those numbers get pulled from Digg but the numbers like "1 L33t Haxor rulz 4 lyph todaly l33t!!!!!" Get Dugg up.

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    3. Re:Not very long... by Poltras · · Score: 1

      I already found that number in some sigs before this article... Has slashdot been shut down yet? Don't think it will neither.

    4. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How long?

      Not long

      'cause what you 09

      is what you C0

    5. Re:Not very long... by sam_handelman · · Score: 1

      54 68 65 20 52 49 41 41 20 69 73 20 67 61 79 21

      works better.

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    6. Re:Not very long... by dr_strang · · Score: 5, Funny

      What would be cool is if everyone put the key in their sig.

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    7. Re:Not very long... by TypoNAM · · Score: 5, Funny

      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0? That's amazing! I've got the same IPv6 address on my luggage!

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    8. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      16 * 8 bits?
      That really does seem to be on the short side. Is there some specific reason why they didn't go with a 1k key or something?

    9. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shame on Digg to succumb to the 'threats'.

      P.S.: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

    10. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 1

      oh for crying out loud! that's what it is.
      I saw it on an earlier comment to something else and tried typing it into a hex convertor to find out what the secret message was!
      \me kicks the /. community

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    11. Re:Not very long... by Quaoar · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Ah shit. I posted 3 seconds after the first guy to make joke. Adios Karma... :/

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    12. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good effort but could have done w/o the homophobic slur here...

    13. Re:Not very long... by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
      > 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0? That's amazing! I've got the same IPv6 address on my luggage!

      That's a great key! I'm gonna use it on Spaceballs: The HD-DVD!

    14. Re:Not very long... by fm6 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn it Locke! I don't care if the world ends! I'm not typing in those damn numbers every 108 minutes!

    15. Re:Not very long... by parodyca · · Score: 1

      And Cory Doctorow received a C&D letter for the same thing. On the advice of his lawyer he caved. I think he should get a new lawyer!

    16. Re:Not very long... by dr_strang · · Score: 4, Funny

      Amazing. When combined with the output of a certain Riemann-zeta function, it comes out "COMSTOCK". /obscure.

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    17. Re:Not very long... by JensenDied · · Score: 3, Informative

      actually it was posted before this article even came up. http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=233015&cid= 18945309

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      09:F9:11:02 - 9D:74:E3:5B - D8:41:56:C5 - 63:56:88:C0

    18. Re:Not very long... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, they had a huge code, but there wasn't enough space in the margin to fit it in.

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    19. Re:Not very long... by alex4u2nv · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No need to scramble the string with numbers and words. Just use it as is, and add statistics google's 1,010 hits.

    20. Re:Not very long... by IgLou · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I now know what my new sig is... Thank you!

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      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    21. Re:Not very long... by UncleTogie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
      ...anyone else just print out this number to stick on their wall? Let 'em try to pull the sites down; I doubt they'll be able to ransack the collective homes/businesses that now have this in hard copy. I've not laughed this hard since Sony's $1-Sharpie-Workaround.
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    22. Re:Not very long... by smclean · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's funny, mine just produces a couple latitude/longitude pairs :)

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    23. Re:Not very long... by toriver · · Score: 1

      I foresee a ThinkGeek T-shirt with the codes on.

    24. Re:Not very long... by mmontour · · Score: 5, Funny

      I saw it on an earlier comment to something else and tried typing it into a hex convertor to find out what the secret message was! Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.
    25. Re:Not very long... by Chysn · · Score: 1

      I... I looked at the code... My eyes.... they burn! My face... it's melting!

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    26. Re:Not very long... by ObjetDart · · Score: 1
      On the advice of his lawyer he caved. I think he should get a new lawyer!

      Why? IANAL but it sounds like good advice to me. The DMCA is clearly worded on this point and is hopelessly biased in favor of the rightsholders.

      Until the DMCA gets changed and/or revoked, anyone who posts this kind of information on their web site is in serious legal danger.

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    27. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's ok it would have been reduntant anyway.

    28. Re:Not very long... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I foresee me buying it.

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    29. Re:Not very long... by tolan-b · · Score: 1

      Drinks are on you!

    30. Re:Not very long... by OECD · · Score: 4, Informative

      Weird how those numbers get pulled from Digg ...

      There's a very interesting story in the Health section of Digg. It's about improving your memory by memorizing a certain sequence of alphanumeric characters...

      I wonder how long that one will last.

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    31. Re:Not very long... by SL+Baur · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's been done before. Remember the RSA in 1 line of perl .signatures and t-shirts from the 90's?

    32. Re:Not very long... by Ihlosi · · Score: 3, Funny
      That really does seem to be on the short side. Is there some specific reason why they didn't go with a 1k key or something?

      Bah, 128 bits should be enough for everyone.

    33. Re:Not very long... by itlurksbeneath · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wonder if you'd get busted passing around this one:

      13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640

      or this one

      1001 11111001 00010001 00000010 10011101 01110100 11100011 01011011 11011000 01000001 01010110 11000101 01100011 01010110 10001000 11000000

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    34. Re:Not very long... by s20451 · · Score: 1

      I... I looked at the code... My eyes.... they burn! My face... it's melting! The goggles, they do nothing!

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    35. Re:Not very long... by Poltras · · Score: 5, Funny

      "The Search for More Money"

    36. Re:Not very long... by .Chndru · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The processing key works with both HD-DVD and Bluray, unlike the summary that mentions only HD-DVD.

    37. Re:Not very long... by arkham6 · · Score: 1

      I think if he has the lat/long, he can afford the drinks.

    38. Re:Not very long... by MattPat · · Score: 1

      55 73 65 20 62 65 74 74 65 72 20 6C 61 6E 67 75 61 67 65 2C 20 20 62 75 74 20 73 65 6E 74 69 6D 65 6E 74 20 65 63 68 6F 65 64

    39. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or this one

      0C 88 65 36 5C 65 14 8D B5 3E 47 D9 20 11 9F 90

    40. Re:Not very long... by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
      Yup, that's the ol' FDebDCC code.
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    41. Re:Not very long... by AoT · · Score: 1

      Good call.

    42. Re:Not very long... by packeteer · · Score: 1

      If only there was a way to search for that number so many times it became one of the top searches. Then Google would be "publishing" that number when they publish their search statistics.

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    43. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5D 91 74 22 CF 3D A2 1A F8 28 25 E5 04 37 F1 E1
      1B E4 00 4B A3 58 82 79 9D 46 56 8A 76 5E 9F 86

      My message is on the first line. It is encrypted with the random number on the second line.

      You wouldn't believe what you get when you decode with your key...

      The captcha for this message is "lawsuit".

    44. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's happened before (also thanks to the DMCA)

      http://slashdot.org/articles/01/03/16/1256226.shtm l

    45. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      OK i admit it, i dont get it at all. What's the reference here? If this is from a book/movie it sounds like stuff I'd like, heh...

    46. Re:Not very long... by BigFire · · Score: 1

      TV series, LOST. If the number isn't entered every 108 minutes, bad things happens.

    47. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes, we got it

    48. Re:Not very long... by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Use their own weapons against them! Let's learn from Turk 182 and use that same method. Who is going to be the first one to decorate MPAA property with 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ?

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    49. Re:Not very long... by thedarb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just ROT13 encode it... no more copyright!

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    50. Re:Not very long... by parodyca · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, you may have a point about Cory in particular, I take exception to your use of the term "anyone". The majority of the world lives outside the US and therefore should not feel intimidated by its laws.

    51. Re:Not very long... by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      I foresee a ThinkGeek T-shirt with the codes on. So did Dunbal on Tuesday February 13, 2007. Though the hype of recent censorship may get it printed sooner rather than later.
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    52. Re:Not very long... by causality · · Score: 4, Funny

      It seems to have been LOST upon you.

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    53. Re:Not very long... by oh_bugger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Or this one 4 8 15 16 23 42

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    54. Re:Not very long... by ZDRuX · · Score: 2, Funny

      What?! Only and idiot would use 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 as their luggage number!.. mine is 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ..ohh wait.

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    55. Re:Not very long... by snoyberg · · Score: 5, Funny

      If only there was a way to search for that number so many times it became one of the top searches. Then Google would be "publishing" that number when they publish their search statistics. I can see it now:
      1. pr0n
      2. Britney Spears
      3. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
      4. pr0n
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    56. Re:Not very long... by adrianbaugh · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't see why there's all this fuss about encryption of the disks themselves. They may as well give away the movies - don't they know it's all about the moichandising! :-D

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    57. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google is your friend.

    58. Re:Not very long... by romland · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's great.

      This guy used it in his URL and got a DMCA takedown notice.

      Oh the irony :)

    59. Re:Not very long... by toleraen · · Score: 1

      Or this one 8 67 53 09

    60. Re:Not very long... by Skinnybrown · · Score: 1

      I won't go into details in case of spoilers, but that's based on Lost, season 2.

    61. Re:Not very long... by Stonent1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Someone already registered that as a .com domain.

    62. Re:Not very long... by Quantam · · Score: 1

      I already have it as my tag-line (signature-like) in MSN messenger. And I'm considering getting the t-shirt to wear when I go back to work (out of state, programming) this summer.

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    63. Re:Not very long... by Main+Gauche · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or this one: 1
      (base 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 .
      Somebody had to end this stupid subthread.)

    64. Re:Not very long... by Adam+Zweimiller · · Score: 5, Interesting

      On a serious note, I am the owner of hdkeys.com, and I have felt the full brunt of this censorship. I established the site back when BackupHDDVD was released, and modified the source adding the ability for the program to automatically retrieve volume keys from the site when they were not found in the local key database. In addition, there was a searchable form on the index page where you could lookup keys. At first, I received a DMCA takedown sent to my dedicated host provider (Layered Technologies), demanding that my hosted copy of BackupHDDVD be removed. This demand arrived at the same time Sourceforge received a similar letter. A month or so passed by and I received another letter, this time through my registrar, GoDaddy, demanding that I remove all the volume keys from the site or be sued out of house and home. In addition, the second letter dictated that I must call the law firm and inform them that I have complied. I complied, but did not notify them. The site has been offline since then. As far as I'm concerned, they demanded something of me, it's up to them to confirm that I have complied. So in recap, I've been threatened, strong armed, and intimidated (you should have read those letters), via my webhost and registrar for simply hosting:

      A) A textbook implementation of the AACS protocol and
      B) Hex strings

      Yeah, America rules.

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    65. Re:Not very long... by starX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It disturbs me that I get that reference. I didn't even think it was a very good book, more like a celebration of everything that was wrong with the dot bomb era. Also the the story fell apart in the last 100 pages or so, kind of like Stephenson just stopped caring and wanted to get the thing done.

      Anyhow, I'm sure someone will mod this down for not toeing the line.

    66. Re:Not very long... by danpsmith · · Score: 1

      What would be cool is if everyone put the key in their sig.

      Yeah, that would be kinda cool...

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    67. Re:Not very long... by Quantam · · Score: 1

      Note to self: check that link from Google works before propagating it. Dang it. Is anybody still making t-shirts with that? I still want one :P

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    68. Re:Not very long... by Chabil+Ha' · · Score: 1

      What? Like I did yesterday when I saw it on digg? ;)

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    69. Re:Not very long... by empaler · · Score: 1

      Well, you may have a point about Cory in particular, I take exception to your use of the term "anyone". The majority of the world lives outside the US and therefore should not feel intimidated by its laws.
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      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 Damnit, I hate being part of the majority. Usually means I'm doing something wrong.
      Apart from that:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0.
      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0.

      Meh, let's get back to focusing on something important.
    70. Re:Not very long... by Talisein · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Did you mean 10 base 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 ?

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    71. Re:Not very long... by FuzzyDaddy · · Score: 2, Funny
      Sorry, that'd be

      10 (base 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 ).

      Not 1.

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    72. Re:Not very long... by Falkkin · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I did that earlier today when I saw this story on Reddit.

    73. Re:Not very long... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      I want to know, who is gonna use this as their Slashdot ID????

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    74. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      MPAA
      New York (Anti-Piracy Office)
      One Executive Blvd. Suite 455
      Yonkers, NY 10701

    75. Re:Not very long... by coaxial · · Score: 0, Redundant

      it's 10

      You screwed up your own joke. Dumbass. :)

    76. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The real point here is: Never register a domain with godaddy.

      http://nodaddy.com/

    77. Re:Not very long... by magarity · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm not typing in those damn numbers every 108 minutes!
       
      Sounds like an opportunity for a LEGO Mindstorm project...

    78. Re:Not very long... by Nullav · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What's next? A series of haiku poems? It's DeCSS all over again, isn't it?

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    79. Re:Not very long... by JohnnyBigodes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      For the unitiated, that's a reference to Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson.

    80. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4 8 15 16 23 42

    81. Re:Not very long... by Darby · · Score: 5, Funny

      Also the the story fell apart in the last 100 pages or so, kind of like Stephenson just stopped caring and wanted to get the thing done.

      How right you are...

      Now.....which one of his books were you talking about again?

    82. Re:Not very long... by TwoScoopsOfPig · · Score: 1

      No, no, must be something in Italian. This is a major award, after all!

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    83. Re:Not very long... by computational+super · · Score: 1
      you should have read those letters

      Are you allowed to at least post those somewhere?

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    84. Re:Not very long... by hex09F911029D74E35BD · · Score: 1

      me?

    85. Re:Not very long... by Petrushka · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Just at a guess, I'd say it only gets modded redundant/offtopic if you don't include "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" in your post.

    86. Re:Not very long... by mattwarden · · Score: 1

      Bzzt. 10.

    87. Re:Not very long... by JamesTRexx · · Score: 2, Funny

      Also funny, mine opens my luggage. O.O;

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    88. Re:Not very long... by lionheart1327 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it be 10 (base 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 )?
      1 is still 1 no matter the base.

    89. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every 1st of May from this day on, anonymous cowards should be called anonymous freedom fighters. Or something.

    90. Re:Not very long... by TwoScoopsOfPig · · Score: 1

      Perhaps some guy named Andrew will figure it out in a couple hundred years...

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    91. Re:Not very long... by Adam+Zweimiller · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yes, they are both posted on this page of a Doom9 thread. Look for the PDF's attached by Mistar Muffin, that's me.

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    92. Re:Not very long... by IgLou · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking I'll put it in my blog, maybe a picture or two on Flickr, gee I want to put it everywhere!
      Is it just me or are others experiencing uncontrollable urge to post this in as many places as possible? I know, let's make it a tag on slashdot! Such a new avenue of abuse!

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      Oops, how did this get here?
      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    93. Re:Not very long... by frieko · · Score: 1

      I wonder if my Myspace Profile Picture is in violation?

    94. Re:Not very long... by James_Duncan8181 · · Score: 4, Informative

      A newly registered domain: http://09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63.com/ And yes, I own it. *grins*

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    95. Re:Not very long... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well now finally we know what the movie overlords meant when they said:

      All your base are belong to us.

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    96. Re:Not very long... by AxelBoldt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The majority of the world lives outside the US and therefore should not feel intimidated by its laws.
      Except that the U.S. is demanding DMCA-like laws with every bilateral trade agreement they negotiate. The DMCA is soon coming to a law book near you, trust me.
    97. Re:Not very long... by beej · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wonder if you'd get busted passing around this one:

      13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640

      or this one

      1001 11111001 00010001 00000010 10011101 01110100 11100011 01011011 11011000 01000001 01010110 11000101 01100011 01010110 10001000 11000000

      All your base are belong to us.

    98. Re:Not very long... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's OK, when I added it to my sig last night, the stars started going out.

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    99. Re:Not very long... by ppc_digger · · Score: 1

      And 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.com has already been suspended.

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    100. Re:Not very long... by bky1701 · · Score: 1

      Actually, it would be 10 in base 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,639 .

    101. Re:Not very long... by npsimons · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Also the the story fell apart in the last 100 pages or so, kind of like Stephenson just stopped caring and wanted to get the thing done.

      As opposed to Dan Brown novels, where the whole book sucks? Thanks, but I think I'll stick with Stephenson. Everyone says he writes horrible endings, and horrible sex scenes, but I just don't see it. Maybe I'm too much of a fanboy (especially after "In the Beginning was the Command Line"), but I'll paraphrase a famous quote: "I may not know literature, but I know what I like."

      Anyhow, I'm sure someone will mod this down for not toeing the line.

      I wouldn't have modded you down. I know that, like Linux, Stephenson's writings aren't for everyone. They make me happy, so I keep buying them. Dan Brown's stuff bores and infuriates me, so I sell back to the used book store and don't buy anything more of his.

    102. Re:Not very long... by bodan · · Score: 1

      This is very weird. The letter says that (I paraphrase): "you're offering the blah-blah processing key on your site" and then since this (I paraphrase again) "is a device primarily intended to circumvent a technical protection measure" you are in violation of the DMCA, cease and desist, blah-blah.

      But, the key itself is a device primarily intended to be used in the normal operation of the disc. It's present in all legal players, it's created by the same guys who created the protection measure. In some way, it is part of the protection measure. It seems illogical.

      It's like I sold a key that can open all locks of a class, which I received when I bought the lock, and someone would claim that the key is a device "primarily intended to circumvent other locks".

      --
      "I think I am a fallen star. I should wish on myself."
    103. Re:Not very long... by Single+GNU+Theory · · Score: 1

      All your base are belong to us.


      I'll have to settle for giving you a personal +1 Funny, even if the mods haven't gotten around to giving you real mod points yet.
      --
      Little Debian: America's #1 Snack Distro!
    104. Re:Not very long... by ppc_digger · · Score: 1

      You're just an AC trying to get attention.

      Oh, BTW, 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0.

      --
      Of all major operating systems, UNIX is the only one originally meant for gaming.
    105. Re:Not very long... by Phat_Tony · · Score: 1

      I notice that someone has already registered www.09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.com, and did so at least long enough ago that it's propagated across DNS servers, but if there was a site there, it appears to have been taken down already.

      It looks like it was just registered on April 29th, though, and the registrant's kept his identity hidden.

      --
      Can anyone tell me how to set my sig on Slashdot?
    106. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you are incorrect. 10 base x = x base 10. Like how 10 base 8 = 8, or 10 base 16 = 16.

    107. Re:Not very long... by element-o.p. · · Score: 4, Funny

      I guess everybody was scrambling to find it.

      Actually, wouldn't that be descrambling to find it?
      --
      MCSE? No, sir...I don't do Windows. Yes, I am an idealist. What's your point?
    108. Re:Not very long... by ajs · · Score: 1

      Happy 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 day! Please, mark this day on your calendar for next year!

    109. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Argh you're right. I need to pay more attention. :P

    110. Re:Not very long... by Yonder+Way · · Score: 0, Redundant
    111. Re:Not very long... by James_Duncan8181 · · Score: 1

      Any ideas from people on what to do with it?

      --
      "To any truly impartial person, it would be obvious that I am right."
    112. Re:Not very long... by Drooling+Iguana · · Score: 3, Funny

      I may be a pretty sad case but I don't write jokes in base 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 .

      --
      ... I'm addicted to placebos
    113. Re:Not very long... by Rei · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Perhaps I can be the first to post a pneumonic (subtract one from the length of each word):

      "A linguistic characterization downgrades it to a wee difficulty, characterizing behemoth codes (extrajudicially made inside monopolizing, unincorporated conspires lying to impose devious macroeconomic tricks) through wise coding." -- Mocking Comically Absurdist Commercialism I.

      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

      --
      "It felt almost as good as stealing cars from grandma." -- Margaret Thatcher, probably.
    114. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that different from

      0*9 F*9 1*1 0*2 9*D 7*4 E*3 5*B D*8 4*1 5*6 C*5 6*3 5*6 8*8 C*0 ?

    115. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully this won't be considered spam.
      But here's a T-shirt I just made and ordered:
      http://www.cafepress.com/deadwisdom

    116. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      listen dude: 09 Foxes, really more precisely 9 foxes is two less than 11 foxes, or 02 less than eleven foxes, remember 9 foxes, Dumbass, not 74 foxes riding an Edsel, not 3, not 5, not Beavis, Dumbass, i will fine you 8 dollars for the each of the 41, wait 56, no -- for the love of god, 88 times you Cracked under pressure and got it right exactly 0 times.

    117. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No kidding. I recently read Diamond Age - I kept wondering how he was going to pull it off in the few pages remaining. He didn't - just declared victory and stopped writing.

      his books are interesting - he just needs to hire somebody to actually finish them for him.

    118. Re:Not very long... by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      But I thought tags are not comments... ;)

      --
      Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
    119. Re:Not very long... by IWannaBeAnAC · · Score: 1

      That should be 10, base 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 . '1' is '1', no matter what base you are in.

    120. Re:Not very long... by XnavxeMiyyep · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Actually, in base 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 , it'd be 10.

      --
      I put the 't' in electrical engineering.
    121. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you mean 10?

    122. Re:Not very long... by alex_guy_CA · · Score: 1
      OK, I give, what are:

      13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640

      or this one

      1001 11111001 00010001 00000010 10011101 01110100 11100011 01011011 11011000 01000001 01010110 11000101 01100011 01010110 10001000 11000000

    123. Re:Not very long... by rhyno46 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You forgot the last 2... 5. ... 6. profit!

    124. Re:Not very long... by Maltheus · · Score: 1

      Well, the .com address seems to be taken, but Godaddy has this address still available:

      http://09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.tv/

      It seems they don't practice what they preach.

    125. Re:Not very long... by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Why would they bother rejecting any domain until they were forced to? They make money from people registering domains, you know... and it's not like GoDaddy gives a crap whether the key gets out in the wild or not. (They don't sell DVD players.)

    126. Re:Not very long... by snoyberg · · Score: 1

      You forgot the last 2... 5. ... 6. profit!

      True. I bow my head in shame :(

      --
      Thank God for evolution.
    127. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can pick up the DRM t-shirt here:

      http://www.cafepress.com/dlkmadsen.129054705

    128. Re:Not very long... by Adam+Hazzlebank · · Score: 1

      Or alternatively I dunno. Publish it on thousands of DNS servers across the planet :) : http://www.09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.com/

    129. Re:Not very long... by just_another_sean · · Score: 1

      That's the great thing about good ideas...

      In fact I think I've come close to reading at least 0x09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 good ideas since I began reading /.

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      Creationist Textbook Stickers Declared Unconstitutional by CowboyNeal
    130. Re:Not very long... by James_Duncan8181 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In fact I just started a blog about the legal side. I've never heard about a DMCA takedown based purely on a domain name before...

      http://09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63.com/

      --
      "To any truly impartial person, it would be obvious that I am right."
    131. Re:Not very long... by EonBlueTooL · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I hate references I don't udnerstand. Anyone have a nice explanation or link?

    132. Re:Not very long... by fishthegeek · · Score: 1

      You are my hero.

      --
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    133. Re:Not very long... by nytes · · Score: 1

      Judging by the post a few above yours, you won't have to worry about it for long. Your domain will probably be suspended in a few hours.

      --
      -- I have monkeys in my pants.
    134. Re:Not very long... by fm6 · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's a very cryptic remark!

    135. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      9 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0


      The truly amaszing thing is that it looks just the string a collegue pulled out of his ass several months ago, and that it's being passed around. That means he offered it to someone, they accepted it and passed it on.

      Come on folks! Do you know the nasty places that string's been?
    136. Re:Not very long... by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 1

      How about this one at Cafe Press?

      --
      www.timcoleman.com is a total waste of your time. Never go there.
    137. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, 'cause fear is the only reason someone would call another person gay. I get that your just name calling back to the guy who started it, but you're kind of deluding yourself if you actually believe that politically correct line.

    138. Re:Not very long... by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

      Can you imagine 0x09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 people posting that number 0x09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 times each? I think you would have to have a Beowolf Cluster of oh, at least 0x09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 nodes to count them all.

    139. Re:Not very long... by autophile · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps I can be the first to post a pneumonic (subtract one from the length of each word):

      Well, someone had to blow some air into this meme!

      --Rob

      --
      Towards the Singularity.
    140. Re:Not very long... by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dan Brown vs. Neal Stephenson? Pshaw.

      Umberto Eco. "Foucault's Pendulum." Take the damn training wheels off already.

    141. Re:Not very long... by gfim · · Score: 1

      I think you mean...

      Can you imagine, three people walking in singing a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine 0x09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 people a day, I said 0x09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 people a day walking in singing a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.

      --
      Graham
    142. Re:Not very long... by TechForensics · · Score: 1

      I'd advise you to give up your addiction to placebos, but I doubt it would make any difference.

      --
      Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
    143. Re:Not very long... by just_another_sean · · Score: 1

      And friends they may thinks it's a movement. And that's what it is... The /. News Site AntiDMCA Movement and all you have to do to get in is to type it the next time a new story is posted.

      (something like that and with apologies to Arlo) :-)
      --
      Creationist Textbook Stickers Declared Unconstitutional by CowboyNeal
    144. Re:Not very long... by bckrispi · · Score: 1

      I am not a number! I am a Free Man!!

      --
      Xenon, where's my money? -Borno
    145. Re:Not very long... by alphamugwump · · Score: 1

      You're not really hardcore if you didn't get it tattooed on your ass.

    146. Re:Not very long... by ajbajb · · Score: 1

      Are you sure? What is '1' base 0?

    147. Re:Not very long... by HipNerd · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think the key is creativity. Show the absurdity of trying to ban a number. We need to rally to protect free speech. To help out, I even made a flag .

      --
      Hipnerd
    148. Re:Not very long... by JohnVanVliet · · Score: 0

      well seeing as the sig. of the post has the 16-hex-pairs number in it ...

      --
      "I don't pitch OpenSUSE Linux to my friends, i let Microsoft do it for me
    149. Re:Not very long... by Zwaxy · · Score: 1

      They are the same number, only in base 10 and base 2 respectively.

    150. Re:Not very long... by just_another_sean · · Score: 4, Funny

      I for one welcome our new movie overlords.

      All 0x09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 of them.

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      Creationist Textbook Stickers Declared Unconstitutional by CowboyNeal
    151. Re:Not very long... by Corwn+of+Amber · · Score: 2, Funny

      THANK GOD I finally found ONE slashdotter who actually CAN READ REAL BOOKS.

      --
      Making laws based on opinions that stem up from false informations leads to witch hunts.
    152. Re:Not very long... by fireweaver · · Score: 1

      Why not have graffiti artists write it on every surface they can?

    153. Re:Not very long... by just_another_sean · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dear bckrispi,

          As the authorized representitive of Patrick McGoohan I am hereby serving you notice of Mr. McGoohan's intent to sue you for your unauthorized reference to his previous works.

          Quoting Mr. McGoohan without proper attribution is clearly a violation of Mr. McGoohan's and Everyman Film's copyright.

          Please call me at your earliest convenience to discuss payment of a settlement fee of $13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,64 0.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

      Signed,
      O. Dewey
      Dewey, Cheatum and Howe

      --
      Creationist Textbook Stickers Declared Unconstitutional by CowboyNeal
    154. Re:Not very long... by Rubinhood · · Score: 1

      You're late, already registered :)
      Domain Name: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0.COM
      Registrar: ENOM, INC.
      [...]
      Updated Date: 01-may-2007
      Creation Date: 29-apr-2007
      Expiration Date: 29-apr-2008

    155. Re:Not very long... by jamesh · · Score: 1

      And you could always buy a domain like '1337k3y2.com', and then create a subdomain called 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.1337k3y2.com.

      Or maybe 09.f9.11.02.9d.74.e3.5b.d8.41.56.c5.63.56.88.c0.13 37k3y2.com.

      But i'm not sure exactly what you'd be accomplishing by doing so...

      Now drawing the shape of the digits into your property and having it captured by google earth would be a neat accomplishment :)

    156. Re:Not very long... by just_another_sean · · Score: 1
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    157. Re:Not very long... by Zwaxy · · Score: 1

      You missed the "c56356" bit.

    158. Re:Not very long... by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      No shit? You are just the kind of guy we are looking for.
      We Need You!!!

      --
      -William
      God is everything science has yet to explain.
    159. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is the domain not the full key? To free you from any liability?

    160. Re:Not very long... by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      You know they murdered 09 F9 11 02
      when he spoke out on 9D 74 E3 5B
      He turned the power to the D8 41 56 C5
      And then came the 63 56 77 C0!

      --
      Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
    161. Re:Not very long... by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      I notice how you call the fact that the majority of people insulting gays are in fact afraid "politically correct" because you can't call it wrong.

      --
      Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
    162. Re:Not very long... by IWannaBeAnAC · · Score: 1

      First of all, you have to define what base 0 means. Then I will answer.

    163. Re:Not very long... by jesboat · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Am I the first to post Base64? "CfkRAp1041vYQVbFY1aIwA"

      Or, an even better idea...

      If you treat the hex string as a sequence of unsigned big-endian U16s, and then look up the sequence of corresponding words in OSX's password dictionary, you get "edit view phosphor beautified sorcerous crushed kneader deadline".

    164. Re:Not very long... by Bifurcati · · Score: 1
      *thunderous applause*

      Good call

    165. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The server at 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63.com is taking too long to respond.

      Oops

    166. Re:Not very long... by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 1

      This is Slashdot. Your reference isn't obscure here.

    167. Re:Not very long... by Storlek · · Score: 1

      Gravity's Rainbow.

      --
      Bears don't normally eat things that talk and move backwards.
    168. Re:Not very long... by Rubinhood · · Score: 1

      First of all, you have to define what base 0 means.
      I've always imagined base '0' would mean that you write the necessary number of 0 digits.
      The first 4 non-negative integer numbers would then be "", "0", "00", "000" etc., you get it.
      And the ideal programming language to handle base-0 numbers is Whitespace:)

    169. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      hmmm... I recognize your writing style. Please stop sending me spam, thank you. ;-) BTW, I think that you meant mnemonic. Pneumonic has to do with the lungs (as in pneumonia).

    170. Re:Not very long... by Captain+DaFt · · Score: 1

      "You're not really hardcore if you didn't get it tattooed on your ass."

      What? Tatooing it on my forehead wasn't good enough?

      (Already had "666" tatooed on my ass!)

      --
      The U.S. really needs an English to Wisdom dictionary.
    171. Re:Not very long... by IWannaBeAnAC · · Score: 1

      No, zero is zero, no matter what base you are in. Aside from zero, you need at least one other number, otherwise you don't have a multiplicative identity (ie. '1') and you can't reproduce usual arithmetic. What you have described is closer to base 1. 1 (base 1) = 1, 11 (base 1) = 2, 111 (base 1) = 3, ...

    172. Re:Not very long... by risk+one · · Score: 2, Funny

      Great idea! So what's the key? Seriously, I've looked everywhere....

    173. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0? That's the kind of number only an asshole would have on his luggage.

    174. Re:Not very long... by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's called "dawn".

    175. Re:Not very long... by rahvin112 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It would have honestly not mattered if you had or hadn't with godaddy involved. Your domain is likely up for auction right now. Godaddy is terribly unscrupulous, but they don't make a secret of their domain stealing activities, it's right in their TOS.

    176. Re:Not very long... by casten · · Score: 2, Funny

      As others pointed out, that would be base 10. I would post the truly marvelous base 1 representation were this margin not too narrow to contain it.

    177. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C0 88 56 63 C5 56 41 D8 5B E3 74 9D 02 11 F9 09

    178. Re:Not very long... by csnydermvpsoft · · Score: 1

      But what base is the base in?

    179. Re:Not very long... by radtea · · Score: 1

      Two. Although I haven't read anything by Eco after I read Foucault's Pendulum. It was a brilliant study of the hermeneutics of arcana and all, but there is something about the subject as such that just fails. I've gotten to the point where I simply don't read anything that might so much as mention the Templars because they are just not a very interesting dead monastic order, and simply mentioning them seems to draw even the most competent author into a welter of pointless digression. Eco's digressions are way more interesting than most, but there's a limit, so no more Templars for me.

      Any serious reader needs some fairly arbitrary "rules for not reading", and that's one of mine. Another is refusing to read anything about or by anyone who has anything to do with Ireland, although I make an exception for Nuala O'Faolain, and you should too.

      --
      Blasphemy is a human right. Blasphemophobia kills.
    180. Re:Not very long... by notanatheist · · Score: 1

      The only problem is that looks like something you'd see flying in San Francisco
      /ducks

    181. Re:Not very long... by 644bd346996 · · Score: 1

      What you've described is actually base 1.

    182. Re:Not very long... by Omestes · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Though I'm going to miss my old one, and feel rather silly once this fad passes, and I forget to remove this one. I average about 3 years per sig... Lazy.

      I love how geeks do this, just when I think that we all are unethical morons, we go show that we can protest SOMETHING. If nothing else geeks are the grand protectors of information, woe to he who crosses this one ethical commandment of geekhood.

      Though Digg is really imploding with it. It has reached the point of absurdity there, with 15 of 15 stories being "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" related.

      --
      A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government. -edward abbey
    183. Re:Not very long... by LungiMaster · · Score: 1

      ..anyone else just print out this number to stick on their wall?
      or, use a new keyboard layout
    184. Re:Not very long... by billsoxs · · Score: 1

      nah - you can't be from NSA. You have to be a geek to surf here.

      --
      This message was brought to you by "Lack of Sleep."
    185. Re:Not very long... by McFadden · · Score: 1

      The front page of Digg is actually worth a look right now. The site has gone into total meltdown.

    186. Re:Not very long... by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      You are going to blow my cover.


      Well, I dont know what I was thinking, I am not, nor have I ever been, affiliated with any .gov agency, except possibly the FCC.

      --
      -William
      God is everything science has yet to explain.
    187. Re:Not very long... by billsoxs · · Score: 1

      From what an old friend tells me - (OK he was my roommate in college - not really a friend) - you could not have been from the FAA either.

      --
      This message was brought to you by "Lack of Sleep."
    188. Re:Not very long... by Penguinoflight · · Score: 1

      I made the same mistake when I registered the key as a domain, without any dashes. You're missing the last 4 places. Maybe that's all that would fit.

      You already got a reply about getting suspended. I tried hosting the domain with hostgator. They activated the account then immediately suspended it and asked me to send in a copy of my license and credit card. That's not going to happen. Does anyone know where you host this kind of stuff? Where I live the most upstream I get is 20KB/s and that's not going to cut it (obviously).

      --
      "And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the World"
      1 John 4:14
    189. Re:Not very long... by Exotabe · · Score: 1

      Someone should hash it out for you...

    190. Re:Not very long... by davmoo · · Score: 1

      That's a silly idea...only evil people would do such a thing...

      --
      I want a new quote. One that won't spill. One that don't cost too much. Or come in a pill.
    191. Re:Not very long... by osgeek · · Score: 1

      Live by the popularity of juvenile selfish pirates, die by the popularity of juvenile selfish pirates.

    192. Re:Not very long... by Geste · · Score: 1
      Another is refusing to read anything about or by anyone who has anything to do with Ireland, although I make an exception for Nuala O'Faolain, and you should too.

      Well! Thank God Patrick O'Brian wasn't really Irish, or I'd be one doomed grass-combing bugger.

    193. Re:Not very long... by UltraAyla · · Score: 1
    194. Re:Not very long... by TheRealAnonymousCowa · · Score: 1

      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0? That's amazing! I've got the same IPv6 address on my luggage!
      That's a great key! I'm gonna use it on the Pirates HD-DVD!
    195. Re:Not very long... by toddhunter · · Score: 1

      No it is LOST. If the number isn't entered every 108 minutes not very much will happen at all but might happen in 6 to 8 episodes time but probably not.

    196. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      In fact I just started a blog about the legal side. I've never heard about a DMCA takedown based purely on a domain name before...


      I dunno about that, but who is going to be the first to grab a ham radio and set up their own numbers station with a mysterious little girl's voice with a faint accent reciting it over and over?
    197. Re:Not very long... by spisska · · Score: 1

      Zero nine eff nine One one zero two nine dee Seven four eee three Five bee dee eight four One five six see five six three Five six eight eight si Zero in the end All bad dee are emm shall pass Bits fall like raindrops

    198. Re:Not very long... by spisska · · Score: 2, Insightful

      (Reminder to self: always check submission settins and remember to preview)

      Zero nine eff nine
      One one zero two nine dee
      Seven four eee three

      Five bee dee eight four
      One five six see five six three
      Five six eight eight si

      Zero in the end
      All bad dee are emm shall pass
      Bits fall like raindrops

    199. Re:Not very long... by General+Wesc · · Score: 0, Troll

      B) Hex strings

      That's not fair! Everyone knows it's okay to distribute any data so long as it's encoded as a hex string!

      Call it what it is: a decryption key. It's not okay to distribute just because 'it's a hex string'. You could encode child pornography as a hex string. It's okay to distribute (if it is) because it's just a decryption key. The format is irrelevant.

    200. Re:Not very long... by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

      Listen to me once, because I do not wish to repeat this 0x09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 times. That's not what I meant. I apologize 0x09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 times for any confusion.

    201. Re:Not very long... by catmistake · · Score: 1

      Repitition isn't speech. Taking down a site isn't speech. What's happening at Digg is harrassment, and vandalism, possibly terrorism.

    202. Re:Not very long... by paraax · · Score: 1

      No, that is base 1. Unless you can figure out how base 1 would work other than that you'll still need to define base-0. :)

      To be clear, base 10 consists of 10 symbols. Typically 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9.
      Base 2 consists of 2 symbols. Typically 0 and 1.
      Base 1 would allow only one symbol. You choose what you'd prefer.

      Following that pattern I'm uncertain how information would be expressed with no symbols.

    203. Re:Not very long... by Nerd4News · · Score: 1

      09 S9 11 02 9Q 74 R3 5O Q8 41 56 P5 63 56 88 P0

      There, I re-secured it for you.

    204. Re:Not very long... by paganizer · · Score: 1

      You very nearly killed me with that one.
      My kids are used to seeing me giggling quietly to myself, not seeing me redfaced, choking & laughing.

      --
      Why, yes, I AM a Pagan Libertarian.
    205. Re:Not very long... by MighMoS · · Score: 1

      I think you're all a bit off

    206. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're going to the trouble of saying "base 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 ", it doesn't really matter what the number is, does it? You may as well say "0 base 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 ". It has the same information, as long as you don't shorten it to just "0".

      Me, I've always been a fan of the rational numbers, so I'd say "0/13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704, 640". Are they going to give me a takedown notice for posting the number 0 in an obscure way?

    207. Re:Not very long... by KinkyClown · · Score: 1

      I don't think it will come up in the first 10 since "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" only hits 281000

    208. Re:Not very long... by ultrasound · · Score: 1

      "it comes out "COMSTOCK". /obscure."

      Obscure. Not on Slashdot. You must be new here.

    209. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just did

    210. Re:Not very long... by rastos1 · · Score: 1
      The post you linked, was submitted May 01, @03:20PM.

      This one was submitted May 01, @10:20AM.

    211. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Roland: 09.
      Dark Helmet: 09.
      Colonel Sandurz: 09.
      Roland: F9.
      Dark Helmet: F9.
      Colonel Sandurz: F9.
      Roland: 11.
      Dark Helmet: 11.
      Colonel Sandurz: 11.
      Roland: 02.
      Dark Helmet: 02.
      Colonel Sandurz: 02.
      Roland: 9D.
      Dark Helmet: 9D.
      Colonel Sandurz: 9D.
      Roland: 74.
      Dark Helmet: 74.
      Colonel Sandurz: 74.
      Roland: E3.
      Dark Helmet: E3.
      Colonel Sandurz: E3.
      Roland: 5B.
      Dark Helmet: 5B.
      Colonel Sandurz: 5B.
      Roland: D8.
      Dark Helmet: D8.
      Colonel Sandurz: D8.
      Roland: 41.
      Dark Helmet: 41.
      Colonel Sandurz: 41.
      Dark Helmet: So the combination is 09, F9, 11, 02, 9D, 74, E3, 5B, D8, 41? That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life! The kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage!

    212. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, while we might all like for his writing to have endings in the traditional sense, I think it's just a hallmark of his work that his stories tend to feel unfinished. While you might be able to ascribe this to laziness, I wouldn't put it beyond him to have chosen this as a conscious stylistic choice.

    213. Re:Not very long... by JensenDied · · Score: 1

      yeah, but the one I linked was an actual post.
      I could go dig up any random article from weeks ago that someone put the key in their .sig today and say it was posted before it was found.

      --

      09:F9:11:02 - 9D:74:E3:5B - D8:41:56:C5 - 63:56:88:C0

    214. Re:Not very long... by ion_ · · Score: 1

      How about a base-36 representation of the number?

      >> "09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0" . to_i(16) . to_s(36)
      => "l96o54kfn6hz7pt164dqflj4"

    215. Re:Not very long... by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      I wonder if you'd get busted passing around this one:
      13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,6 40

      I'm not sure, but you will definitely be busted for passing this around:

      13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,6 39 + 1

      That's my own invention, copyright by me.

      It's also my PIN code, hence a circumvention device for the protection mechanism on my bank account. I better not find out that anyone's been using my PIN to encrypt DVDs and distribute them worldwide.

      --
      "Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it." -- GBS
    216. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We still miss you, DNA...

    217. Re:Not very long... by tolan-b · · Score: 1

      That was my point ;)

    218. Re:Not very long... by funkatron · · Score: 1

      (you should have read those letters),

      You should have published those letters

      --
      "Welcome to our world. We are the wasted youth. And we are the future too." Yes, I know these are stupid lyrics.
    219. Re:Not very long... by Zaatxe · · Score: 1

      The majority of the world lives outside the US [...]

      Wow! So, that means that THERE IS A WORLD OUTSIDE THE US? I'm baffled...

      --
      So say we all
    220. Re:Not very long... by Zwaxy · · Score: 1

      The guy I replied to was asking what those 2 numbers were, so I replied, telling him.

      (I think he may have meant "I give up", not "I give", but maybe "I give" means something in some version of English I'm unaware of).

      I realise the answer is pretty obvious, but he didn't know it, so I tried helping.

      What's your point?

    221. Re:Not very long... by dr_strang · · Score: 1

      Considering my user number is low 5 digits and yours is six, I'd say "uh, no".

      However I very well may have underestimated the geekiness factor by 100 or so.

      --
      This is a sig. It is like every other sig in the world, except that it is mine, and it is different.
    222. Re:Not very long... by slart42 · · Score: 1

      If only there was a way to search for that number so many times it became one of the top searches. Then Google would be "publishing" that number when they publish their search statistics. Google is already publishing that number in some sense - if you type 09 f9 into google suggest it will autocomplete the search.
    223. Re:Not very long... by J'raxis · · Score: 1

      And the base32 version: BH4RCAU5OTRVXWCBK3CWGVUIYA.

      And for you PGP/GPG users: Algol Waterloo Athens aftermath quadrant hydraulic tissue exodus stormy decadence egghead resistor flatfoot escapade newborn recipe!

    224. Re:Not very long... by mpe · · Score: 1

      They are the same number, only in base 10 and base 2 respectively.

      Nothing to to stop someone using a more obscure radix than 10, 2, or 16. e.g. 11, 13 or some other number which is not a multiple (or factor) of 10, 2 & 16...

    225. Re:Not very long... by mrogers · · Score: 1

      I agree with you about Foucault's Pendulum, but don't judge him solely by that - The Name of the Rose is fantastic (and not a Rosicrucian in sight).

    226. Re:Not very long... by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      Stephenson would actually be a good writer... if he had a competent editor. He has some very good story concepts, but his writing lacks in execution.

      --
      Wolde you bothe eate your cake, and have your cake?
    227. Re:Not very long... by bdonalds · · Score: 1

      Nope...I prefer to put goofy song lyrics in my sig!

      --
      The most important thing to do in your life is to not interfere with somebody else's life. -FZ
    228. Re:Not very long... by Lemmeoutada+Collecti · · Score: 1

      According to my disassembler, that is an interesting bit ox x86 code:

      or ecx, edi
      add bl,byte ptr SS:[ebp+D85BE374]
      inc ecx
      push esi
      lds esp,FWord ptr DS:[ebx+56h]
      mov al, al

      Not sure what is does, but I'm sure it's useful.

      --

      You can have it fast, accurate, or pretty. Pick any 2.
    229. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      haha FAIL

    230. Re:Not very long... by richie2000 · · Score: 1

      Actually, any digitized copyrighted work of art can be expressed as a single number. A MP3 file is normally around 3-4 million digits, all copyrighted...

      --
      Money for nothing, pix for free
    231. Re:Not very long... by Adam+Zweimiller · · Score: 1

      I replied with links to both PDF's long before you posted your comment.

      --
      mmm...muffins
    232. Re:Not very long... by Pollardito · · Score: 1

      What would be cool is if everyone put the key in their sig.
      or maybe if we accelerated signups to the point that someone actually had the Slashdot ID of 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640
    233. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And of cause the md5 hash: "57de6d6552a5b2884172d464df61ed91"

    234. Re:Not very long... by Lachlan+Hunt · · Score: 1

      I wonder if you'd get busted passing around this one:

      How about an image?
      data:image/bmp;base64,Qk1KAAAAAAAAADYAAAAoAAAABgAA AAEAAAABABgAAAAAABQAAAASCwAAEgsAAAAAAAAAAAAAEfkJdJ 0C2FvjxVZBiFZjAADAAAA%3D

      or a string of UTF-16 encoded characters?
      data:text/plain;charset=UTF-16,%FF%FE%09%f9%11%02% 9d%74%e3%5b%d8%41%56%c5%63%56%88%c0

      --
      By reading this signature, you hereby agree with the content of the above comment.
    235. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here are more hex key shirts and stuff: https://www.cafepress.com/takedownthis

    236. Re:Not very long... by dacaldar · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but the nice thing about the "10" correction is that it actually works out to the right number. Sure, the necessary communication is done either way, but the humour of the thread was in listing the right number while couching the actual digits (as would be seen in base 10) - and this super funny post took it one step further by exposing the actual base-10 digits in the couching mechanism - ROTFL.

    237. Re:Not very long... by rolando2424 · · Score: 1

      I for one, would prefer it in leet. 09 |=9 11 02 9[) 74 33 5|} [)8 41 56 (5 63 56 88 (0 ... Ok, maybe not...

      --
      Okay seriously I've just run out of pointless things to say.
    238. Re:Not very long... by bandmassa · · Score: 1

      Put 'em in reverse order, or slashdot might get cancelled, too ;-)

      --
      "I hope you like Guinness, Sir. I find it a refreshing substitute for, er... food." Col. Jack O'Neil, SG-1
    239. Re:Not very long... by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      What about collecting DRM keys?

    240. Re:Not very long... by g-san · · Score: 1

      Is that a new 10 megabit Ethernet technology???

    241. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or ecx,edi
      adc [edx],eax
      popf
      jz 0xFFFFFFEA
      pop ebx
      fadd dword [ecx+0x56]
      lds esp,[ebx+0x56]
      mov al,al

    242. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fortunately, /. has plenty of redundant people to correct you

    243. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Divided into quartets, then values used as Red, Green, Blue, NumberOfPixels, I give you... HD-DVD processing key art - http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x49/gcathey/hex 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.png

    244. Re:Not very long... by jesboat · · Score: 1

      Very nice. I also like this one.

    245. Re:Not very long... by mannd · · Score: 1

      That's mnemonic, not pneumonic...

      --
      Sig expected Real Soon Now.
    246. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The first person to have said hex number as a GPG key signature wins.

    247. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Posted by: raul 09 F9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41... on May 6, 2007

      I copied the "Processing Key" that ends with the number ...56 c5 63 56 88 c0.

      I will never use it.

      I buy my DVDs. I am old fashioned that way.
      But I do object to things like region coding and DRM that prevents me from, for instance, ripping my legally paid for movie to the hard drive of my PC.

      Once I own a product. Kindly get out of my life!

      So I now posses this stupid "Processing Key" as a way of protesting the overreaching greed and mind numbing stupidity of AACS (Advanced Access Content System) digital rights management system and the idiots behind it.

    248. Re:Not very long... by Poltras · · Score: 1

      Where is the REAL Dr. Strang, tell me!? <zim>Tell me!!!!</zim>

    249. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imho, 0000 1001 1111 1001 0001 0001 0000 0010 1001 1101 0111 0100 1110 0011 0101 1011 1101 1000 0100 0001 0101 0110 1100 0101 0110 0011 0101 0110 1000 1000 1100 0000.

    250. Re:Not very long... by npsimons · · Score: 1

      Umberto Eco. "Foucault's Pendulum." Take the damn training wheels off already.

      I keep meaning to get into Eco, just haven't had the time. I did like the movie version of "Name of the Rose" very much, so I'm hoping the book is even better.


    251. Re:Not very long... by mqduck · · Score: 1

      What does "10" represent in base 10? It's not 9.

      --
      Property is theft.
    252. Re:Not very long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know what all the fuss is about, so to find out I pasted this number you're all on about into Google Earth. Guess where it points to ?

    253. Re:Not very long... by Giant+peach · · Score: 1

      Or in factored form: 2 ^ 6 x 5 x 19 x 12043 x 216493 x 836256 503069 278983 442067

      From this you can make lots of other expressions for the number.

    254. Re:Not very long... by miknix · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't be fun to have a file which md5 hash is a prohibited number?
      Lets find out collisions!

    255. Re:Not very long... by MCraigW · · Score: 1

      Or preferably on your girl-friend's ass. And then post pictures here to show us.

  2. a few seconds by kunkie · · Score: 1, Informative

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

    1. Re:a few seconds by jaymzter · · Score: 0, Redundant

      So the combination is 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. That's the stupidest combination I've ever heard in my life. That's the kinda thing an idiot would have on his luggage

      --
      If thou see a fair woman pay court to her, for thus thou wilt obtain love
  3. Well by dr_strang · · Score: 1

    Guess we'll see. Story got greenlit, so the key shouldn't be too long in coming.

    --
    This is a sig. It is like every other sig in the world, except that it is mine, and it is different.
  4. The magic key is... by mmxsaro · · Score: 1, Funny

    00:00:de:ad:be:ef:12:34

    1. Re:The magic key is... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Sorry mate, your version of the player must have been updated.
      That key is just uninitialised memory.

      --
      liqbase :: faster than paper
  5. Ah My! by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's amazing to see just how worthless and futile DRM is. It penalizes the poor saps who don't have the know-how to override it. As for the rest, and that includes the pirates, it's no obstacle at all.

    If you had a lock that kept out only the people you actually wanted in, but couldn't keep out those that were actually going to rob you blind, one would think that your solution might be a little more robust than "I'll see anyone who reports how badly my lock works".

    --
    The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
    1. Re:Ah My! by CokeJunky · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, it penalizes the rich saps who don't have the know-how to override it. The poor saps can't afford the movies and music at the current prices of such things.

      --
      More Caffeine. NOW
    2. Re:Ah My! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll see that and raise you a sue.

    3. Re:Ah My! by KillerCow · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It penalizes the poor saps who don't have the know-how to override it. As for the rest, and that includes the pirates, it's no obstacle at all.


      There's a saying in the (physical) lock business. I am not in it, so I may have the wording wrong, but the gist is:

      Locks are to keep honest people honest.


      In the safe business, safes are rated by how long they take to crack. They never claim to be uncrackable.

      Trying to make DRM better than locks and safes in the real world is futile.
    4. Re:Ah My! by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not trying to claim any security measure is uncrackable. What I'm saying is that DRM is a pain in the ass for John-Q-consumer, while not in fact, presenting much of an obstacle at all to those who actually make a living out of pirating copyrighted material. That is a pretty seriously flawed security system.

      --
      The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
    5. Re:Ah My! by jd · · Score: 3, Funny

      Nonono. You're missing the point. The people who can break DRM are the ones who have the movies. The movies are mind-wrenchingly bad and will cause your brain to explode. The upshot is that only the brains of pirates will be destroyed. Don't you see? This is the most cunning plan Baldrick has come up with yet!

      --
      It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
    6. Re:Ah My! by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I always presumed that their goal was to keep John-Q-consumer from easily making copies. They have the FBI for the professionals.

      --
      W..w..W - Willy Waterloo washes Warren Wiggins who is washing Waldo Woo.
    7. Re:Ah My! by the_womble · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What I'm saying is that DRM is a pain in the ass for John-Q-consumer


      Thats the point. They want to keep things locked down, not so much to reduce the tolerable lost revenues from pirating, but to increase barriers to entry.
    8. Re:Ah My! by stewwy · · Score: 1

      Actually you're half right. I got a 360 hd drive with King Kong.
      So far I've cracked it, run it on my PC,run it on my 360, re-encoded it to allow streaming and playback on linux and non HDCP compliant hardware removed the FBI sh1t warning and sundry other dross........But I've just realised. not once have I actually sat down and enjoyed more than a couple of minutes of the film

    9. Re:Ah My! by BoberFett · · Score: 2, Informative

      Locks are to keep honest people honest.

      I've heard that saying many times before, and it's as untrue now as it was when I first heard it.

      An honest man needs nothing to maintain his honesty. Honest people are honest by definition. Determined criminals will always get what they want. Locks only keep out the lazy criminals, which fortunately is most of them.
    10. Re:Ah My! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the safe business, safes are rated by how long they take to crack. They never claim to be uncrackable.
      Yes, and the same goes for encryption. The difference is that the time it takes to crack a safe by brute force is generally measured in minutes, while the time it takes to crack modern encryption by brute force is generally measured in multiples of the lifetime of the universe.
    11. Re:Ah My! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's also interesting to see their efforts to remove the number from public view. Don't they know what they're up against? It's like stepping on a landmine to render it harmless. Yes, it sort of works, but...

    12. Re:Ah My! by RMingin · · Score: 2, Informative

      The real difference here is that when you crack one safe, they don't ALL open their doors. In 50 years we'll still be selling safes. In 50 years the AACSLA will be defunct and forgotten.

      --
      The preceding comment is my own, and in no way construes an opinon of the Emperor of Mankind.
    13. Re:Ah My! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right. So the problem scenario is where 10**8 John.Q's are ripping dvds themselves, not the one where relatively few skilled people do it and 10**8 John.Q's get them from the internet with ease and efficiency beyond what the record/movie mafia can offer.

    14. Re:Ah My! by vux984 · · Score: 1

      Trying to make DRM better than locks and safes in the real world is futile.

      True enough. But its worse than that. Locks and safes are designed to keep people without the key out. Pure and simple.

      DRM is some sort of hypocritical attempt to put something in a locked safe that you want people without the key to have access to. So you have to give them key. And to maintain 'security' you hide it inside something else and make it illegal to look at it.

    15. Re:Ah My! by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      I don't think that the internet is the threat that they were worried about when they implemented the protections on DVD or HD-DVD/Blueray. Traditionally their business model has two threats - John-Q-Public copying videos for his pals, or renting and copying instead of buying, and organized pirates. The internet is a new threat, though probably one that they are only beginning to worry about seriously.

      The internet will be the death of DRM, once speeds are fast enough to reasonably share HD content, for the reasons you state.

      --
      W..w..W - Willy Waterloo washes Warren Wiggins who is washing Waldo Woo.
    16. Re:Ah My! by r3m0t · · Score: 1

      DRM does not qualify as "modern encryption", because to play the media (which costs $1 - $50 depending on what you bought), you must have the decryption software, *and* the key, *and* the ciphertext, and the computer on which it runs.

      Now, the safe, maybe it "keeps almost-honest people honest". The DRM just pisses people off ("I already bought it!") and just recategorises honest people as breaking the law.

      Imagine a safe which you paid for, was kept in your house, and yet you needed to call a special warden every time you wanted to open it. That's about as good as I can do ;-).

    17. Re:Ah My! by juhaz · · Score: 1

      It only takes one.

      Do you really think they would still be selling physical locks it each of a given model had the same key and they could all be opened in ten seconds if just one person spent the initial long time with it?

      Trying to make DRM that is not orders of magnitude worse than the most crude real lock is futile.

    18. Re:Ah My! by stmfreak · · Score: 1

      If you had a lock that kept out only the people you actually wanted in, but couldn't keep out those that were actually going to rob you blind, one would think that your solution might be a little more robust than "I'll see anyone who reports how badly my lock works".

      I'm surprised how prevalent this thinking is within the human species. We're having a rash of burglaries in my neighborhood. This week, we received a notice from the local police informing of this fact. They mention that these daylight burglers are breaking windows to enter homes. The police letter then helpfully suggests that we lock our doors and windows as a placebo.

      One thing I remember from owning a convertible coupe car was that one should always leave one's doors unlocked and when sunny, windows down. That way, those that are up to no good won't cut your canvass top or break your windows while pilfering through your stuff. Of course, the non-thieves among us leave your shit alone either way.

      Maybe the EFF should buy convertibles for key members of the RIAA.

      --
      These opinions guaranteed or your money back.
    19. Re:Ah My! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine a key made by an ASSA ABLOY company like Medeco or Mul-T-Lock and patented the specific grooves in the keyway so that only they were allowed to manufactor and sell keyblanks that will fit their lock. Now imagine that they sold with their lock a difficult to reproduce certificate of ownership and cut off support to any locksmith caught duplicating the key without verifying ownership via the certificate. With possible legal consequences as well. Kinda like that?

    20. Re:Ah My! by Rakarra · · Score: 1
      I always presumed that their goal was to keep John-Q-consumer from easily making copies.

      Not entirely. It's not so much keeping the consumer from making unauthorized copies as it is keeping the consumer from gaining unauthorized access. This includes copying, of course, but it also bans sampling (say for a collage/montage), playing your region 1 dvd on a region 2 dvd player, buying a player that allows you to skip commercials that the publisher wants you to see, or shifting formats to your portable player without paying an additional fee.

    21. Re:Ah My! by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      Encryption is keeping Eve from reading the messages sent from Alice to Bob. DRM is the same thing, except that Eve and Bob are the same person.

      --
      Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
    22. Re:Ah My! by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 1

      I've heard that saying many times before, and it's as untrue now as it was when I first heard it.


      It is only untrue if you ignore human nature, and go literal with definitions that are useless when going literal.

      An honest man needs nothing to maintain his honesty. Honest people are honest by definition. Determined criminals will always get what they want. Locks only keep out the lazy criminals, which fortunately is most of them.


      That is stupid even using literal definitions. A criminal is not a person who might commit a crime, given the right circumstances. A criminal is a person who has committed a crime.

      Just about everyone will commit a crime, given the right circumstances (e.g. your child is starving, and you have exhausted all legal means of obtaining food).

      One of the properties of a well adjusted society (and criminal code) is that the "right circumstances" occur rarely. Making it a crime to distribute a small hexadecimal number will make the "right circumstances" common among /. readers.

  6. All hail /. by .Chndru · · Score: 2, Informative

    For all its craziness, /. truly is da place to be! They walk the walk :)

    1. Re:All hail /. by cyclocommuter · · Score: 1

      Reddit is cool too... they haven't removed the link to the OP's site even though you can't get to it anymore. Digg Corporation/K Rose on the other hand got no balls.

    2. Re:All hail /. by mattatwork · · Score: 1

      Have you tried using Internet Archive? You probably could find it using the "Way Back Machine"...that is if they haven't been asked to remove their archived content....

      --
      I've refrained from profanity, racial/ethnic epitaphs and am 5'11" - how can I be ranked as troll?
    3. Re:All hail /. by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 1

      It is fun to think this, but Digg and Slashdot and reddit are all web sites run by businesses. The people who man the controls there are concerned about one thing: making money.

      Posting this kind of stuff might win a few dollars if that is what your demographic wants, but it isn't anything more than a business decision. If Slashdot gets a takedown notice and the legal gurus say they have to comply, they will comply. They'd be stupid to do otherwise because it would run counter to the interests of the business.

      They did it with Scientology and, come to cases, they'll do it here.

      --
      "Sacrifice for the good of The State" - The State
  7. cheat mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 77 C0
    instead and all actors in all scenes will appear naked.

    1. Re:cheat mode by Miseph · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow, it really works!

      One problem though, I used it to watch attack of the clones, hoping to see some Natalie Portman hawtness, and was instead rendered impotent by Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen.

      Turns out, the key only works for actors, and does nothing for actresses.

      --
      Try not to take me more seriously than I take myself.
    2. Re:cheat mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Hayden Christensen was hot in that movie

  8. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by freakmn · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was amazed at the quickness of the censors, when I clicked on the link here, and got the "Nothing to see here, please move along." message. I've often seen people say that they got that message, but was never quite sure if it actually happened. This time it did. In cooperation with the summary, here's the number: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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    warning: This post is likely to contain gobs of dripping sarcasm. Consume at your own risk.
    1. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 1

      Arghhh...I'd post this on my blog -- hosted in Canada -- but (long story) I'm going to be moving it to a Linode account shortly for about three months, right before I go on vacation. Last thing I want is to come back to a takedown notice, esp. since there are a bunch of other websites on the machine as well.

      This is exactly why I wanted to avoid hosting in the US. Canada isn't perfect (see: hate crime legislation), and I've no doubt there are lots of ISPs that would buckle automatically to a foreign takedown notice, but these kinds of laws are just ridiculous.

    2. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by poena.dare · · Score: 5, Funny

      I also hear there is a website devoted 2 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by some guy in Scottlande or someplace. They say he's really crazy 'cuz his wife went into labor the day discovered 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 an she wouldn't let him look at 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 so when they got home from the hospital he cut her up and buried her in teh yard and then ate his own baby with some chips, oh delicious chips. So they caught him but he managed to memorize 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 and smuggled it into prison with him and the other convicts tried too take it away from him in the shower so he cut them up and ate them to, in fact he went on a rampage and ate all th prison guards with some chips, oh delicious chips. And then he sat down at th warden's desk and stared at 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 only stopping when he had 2 pee in a potted plant in th corner of the room. After memorizing 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 he found th prison surrounded by teh Army and there was a guy on a bullhorn named Dr. Quartermass who was telling him 2 put down teh fork and come out with his hands up. But he managed to escape through the sewers and they couldn't catch him but they found his bag of chips, oh delicious chips. They say he's still hiding too this day in th mountains of Scotchland, th Alpes, updating his website with 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 every day. They also say of your are backpacking in the Alpes that you'd better not carry any chips, oh delicious chips. They say they'll never catch him 2 because there are laws that protect mountain people and the police are scared too go up there. But he has 2 come to a city once a month on teh seventh day and he breaks into a house that has a computer and he types 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 over and over and he eats anyone at home with chips, oh delicious chips. So the police are hoping to catch him when he goes 2 the city but so far he's eaten over 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 people and 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 bags of chips, oh delicious chips so it seems like there is no stopping him. You may think I'm making all this up but it's the truth and I know it cause I asked my friend who works at the MPAA and it said it's true so it is.

    3. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Romancer · · Score: 1

      Holy shit!!

      Someone mod that up. I had two co-workers come in wanting to know what was so funny I was laughing so hard! they read it and one had to run to the bathroom, she was laughing so hard!

      Mod it UP!!

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    4. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Doobie+Dan · · Score: 2, Funny

      (Score: +1, WhatTheFuckIsWrongWithYou)

    5. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Jehosephat2k · · Score: 1

      You say "09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0"

      I say "9F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0"

    6. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Jehosephat2k · · Score: 3, Funny

      (Oops let me try that again lol)

      You say "09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0"

      I say "13256278887989457651018865901401704640"

    7. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Skapare · · Score: 1

      $TTL 7d
      $ORIGIN example.com
      riaasucks 604800 IN AAAA 09F9:1102:9D74:E35B:DB41:56C5:6356:88C0

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    8. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      You say "09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0"

      And I say "9F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0"

      You say "11371021002235164343133330101126305143126210300"

      And I say "MDlGOTExMDI5RDc0RTM1QkQ4NDE1NkM1NjM1Njg4QzA="

      Let's call the whole thing off....

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    9. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the right time to start chain mail. Here I go.

      Post the above number in mail and send it to three people and the person you like will call you before the end of the day. Send this email to ten peoples you will get raise in salary and you will stop getting spam. Send this to two hundred people and president of your country will resign.

      If you do not send this to anybody and delete, you will be doomed forever. Global warming will affect your town and ....
      guys, need help here to create more doom scenarios.

      AC

    10. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Colonel+Angus · · Score: 1

      I'm just shocked to discover that the exact same hex value is my current network password here at work! It's crazy, I tells ya.

    11. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Snorpus · · Score: 1
      And Google says: "about 1,650,000 for 09 F9 11 02. (0.16 seconds)"

      And, might I say, climbing.

    12. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 1

      And the number for my luggage lock, too!

    13. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Riktov · · Score: 2, Funny

      That reminds me of the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0, so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied a 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 , and in those days, nickels had pictures of 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 on 'em. 'Give me five bees for 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ,' you'd say.

      Now where were we? Oh yeah -- the important thing was that I had a 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0's because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones...

    14. Re:09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Martindale · · Score: 0

      MekTek FTW. 3

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  9. Who knows?? by Bl4d3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Finally a use the Anonymos Cowards ;)

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    1. Re:Who knows?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does that means UAC = Useful AnonymoUs Cowards

      and th3y said numb3rs can't b3 copyrighted. :(

    2. Re:Who knows?? by Asmandeus · · Score: 0

      No.

  10. Woah by jackd · · Score: 1

    Spooky. Clicked on "Read more..", got "Nothing to see here. Please move along."

    http://imgplace.com/directory/dir2082/1178048838_8 289.gif

    1. Re:Woah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's just slashcode being tweakish. Stories making it to front page and being open to all users aren't always synchronized.

  11. Source by W2k · · Score: 4, Informative

    I would post the processing key, but I'll link to the original posting instead:

    http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121866&pag e=6

    I recommend interested slashdotters read the thread, there's a lot of interesting context to the discovery.

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  12. Look what I found by fittekuk · · Score: 1, Redundant

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

  13. Remember De-CSS? by sesshomaru · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How long before the magic 16-hex-pairs number shows up in a comment here?
    Or better yet, on T-Shirts sold to benefit the Electronic Frontiers Foundation?

    Remember De-CSS?

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    1. Re:Remember De-CSS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doh! I was just gonna suggest T-Shirts!

    2. Re:Remember De-CSS? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I bought a DeCSS shirt and wore it through airplane security, into courthouses, and so on. If a worthy organization made a 3X tee shirt (I'm a fatass) with the code on it, I would do the same.

      --
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    3. Re:Remember De-CSS? by PPH · · Score: 1
      Or tattooed on my pecker.


      Switch to stronger encryption? I've got room to spare!

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    4. Re:Remember De-CSS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Act like you got some self respect and LOSE WEIGHT YOU FATASS!

    5. Re:Remember De-CSS? by harrkev · · Score: 1

      Or tattooed on my pecker.
      Be careful. If a judge rules against you, the takedown could be painful.
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    6. Re:Remember De-CSS? by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      Remember De-CSS?

      Hell, I can't remember how to get to work if I skip a day. And I will have forgotten what I typed by the time I hit the Submit button.

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    7. Re:Remember De-CSS? by xenobyte · · Score: 1

      Hmmm... The first page works but if you click for a larger view...

      CafePress.com Product Not Found

      We are sorry, but the product you requested could not be found. The page you are looking for may have been renamed, moved, or deleted.

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    8. Re:Remember De-CSS? by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Sod the takedown, what about getting the TATTOO ITSELF?!!

  14. Oh damn ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... that's the combination for my suitcase.

  15. Google Mirror by algae · · Score: 5, Funny
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    1. Re:Google Mirror by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 1

      That's not a mirror; that's a URL that forces the data to be loaded in the linked si...

      Oh, forget it.

    2. Re:Google Mirror by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Awww, only ~1,000 hits so far. Surely we can do better than that, Slashdot!

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    3. Re:Google Mirror by interiot · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When data is small enough to fit into a URL or a Google query, it's probably too small to be copyrighted. I don't know why that's so intuitive to most Slashdotters, but not intuitive to movie execs...

    4. Re:Google Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, the original page from Google Cache

      It's ironic that Google notified the author of this public Google Notebook, but the content is still available from the same company :)

    5. Re:Google Mirror by interiot · · Score: 1

      That's hilarious, it even fits into a domain name: 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.com and 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.justgotowned.com.

      MPAA: the horse is so far out of the barn, it's laughable to attempt putting it back in. What should justgotowned.com do? Hard-code that name as an invalid site, thereby including the "copyrighted" text in its own code?

    6. Re:Google Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Google saves the search as part of search or web history, does that mean they are breaking the law?

    7. Re:Google Mirror by Petrushka · · Score: 1

      It's nearly 10,000 now ...

    8. Re:Google Mirror by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      I don't know why that's so intuitive to most Slashdotters, but not intuitive to movie execs...

      Because, as clueless as we are, most Slashdotters can at least count past 10 without taking off our shoes. Movie execs aren't that smart.

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    9. Re:Google Mirror by RedWizzard · · Score: 1
  16. How about as a mix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Like:
    If someone was interested in breaking the current hd-dvd scheme they'd want to know all about:
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3
    followed by five 'bee' then
    D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88
    and finally
    'cee' zero

    How can that possibly be DMCA'd...

    1. Re:How about as a mix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      octal: 011 371 021 002 235 164 343 133 330 101 126 305 143 126 210 300

      decimal: 9 249 17 2 157 116 227 91 216 65 86 197 99 86 136 192

      base sixty four: MDlGOTExMDI5RDc0RTM1QkQ4NDE1NkM1NjM1Njg4QzA=

      nato: zero nine, foxtrot nine, one one, zero two, nine delta, seven four, echo three, five bravo, delta eight, four one, five six, charlie five, six three, five six, eight eight, charlie zero

    2. Re:How about as a mix by cecil_turtle · · Score: 1

      We should just triple-ROT-13 the string:

      09 S9 11 02 9Q 74 R3 5O Q8 41 56 P5 63 56 88 P0

  17. I hope we'll all stop it soon. by Tiger+Smile · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Time to get out and use the old pen to write a nice little letter to my congress critter.

    I'm all for someone using their rights to protect what is their's. Not a problem, but when it dictates what they can do with the things they own, and speech, I think it has crossed a line I'd rather it not cross.

    Some say Americans just take the abuse and can't see what the big deal is, unless it might cause re-runs of Friends to be pulled. Some people say Americans are sheep and will go where a select class of people point for them to go. I have sometimes seen these rights dry up a little when not constantly defended, and I start to think American's are lemmings, not sheep.

    I guess I'm just as guilty as everyone else. I'm no fool. I can see I'm like that also, but I'm trying really hard to be different.

    Short Answer: It all stops when we all stop it.

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    1. Re:I hope we'll all stop it soon. by Flwyd · · Score: 1

      If you include the key in your letter to your representative he'll be guilty of possessing an illegal document. Be sure to tip the FBI and/or the press.

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    2. Re:I hope we'll all stop it soon. by einhverfr · · Score: 1

      IANAL, but I don't believe posession of the key is illegal, though transmitting it might be. For example, if your congressman forwards your email on to the copyright office, or such, that might be outside of the bounds of the DMCA.

      Also if you send it to your congressman from outside the country, that might be deemed "importing" a device for circumventing access controls ;-)

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    3. Re:I hope we'll all stop it soon. by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      I start to think American's are lemmings, not sheep.
      Not to worry then. Lemmings don't really commit suicide in mass herds, it's all just a myth created by hollywood.
      So feel free to be a lemming, nothing bad will come of it. Just don't try to be a gerbil when Richard Gere is around.
  18. Magic Key by imbezol · · Score: 1

    OP:EN:SE:SA:ME:PL:EA:SE

    1. Re:Magic Key by |/|/||| · · Score: 1
      All your base are seriously wacky.

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    2. Re:Magic Key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer Open Saddlesoap myself, Hassan if you please.

  19. Hex Art by MythMoth · · Score: 4, Informative

    I liked this version...

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  20. AnyDVD-HD ? by Brit_in_the_USA · · Score: 1

    On a related note there is the AnyDVD-HD program recently released. Are they constantly fighting legal battles?

    1. Re:AnyDVD-HD ? by k.ovaska · · Score: 1

      On a related note there is the AnyDVD-HD program recently released. Are they constantly fighting legal battles?

      No. They are registered in Antigua which doesn't have DMCA-like legislation.

  21. Don't use this one by demonlapin · · Score: 5, Funny

    04 08 15 16 23 42

    1. Re:Don't use this one by TonyZahn · · Score: 5, Funny

      That code seems to work, but for some strange reason I have to re-enter it every 108 minutes...

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    2. Re:Don't use this one by stormeru · · Score: 0

      I'll use these as my numbers for the next 6/49 lottery.

    3. Re:Don't use this one by crankyspice · · Score: 1

      04 08 15 16 23 42

      Those are the factors for the Valenzetti Equation. We're talking about the MPAA here, the Valenti Equation...

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    4. Re:Don't use this one by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      Don't post that! We'll get another DMCA takedown notice!

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  22. Bumper sticker? by pclminion · · Score: 1

    I want to get this printed up on a bumper sticker. Can anyone recommend a good vendor?

    1. Re:Bumper sticker? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.stickernation.com/
      High quality vinyl

    2. Re:Bumper sticker? by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      www.cafepress.com lets you make bumper stickers, tshirts, caps. No, I have never used them because I'm euro-based. In Europe, you can go to www.spreadshirt.de. Dunno if they have bumper stickers there... You never see bumper stickers in Europe (or very rarely).

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    3. Re:Bumper sticker? by Paulrothrock · · Score: 1

      Screw bumper stickers. I'm getting a tattoo.

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    4. Re:Bumper sticker? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

      As many people who tried to make fun of the Boston/Mooninite scare on a T-shirt found out, Cafepress panics and pulls designs (even ones that don't violate copyright) at the first sign of legal action. I wouldn't even bother trying them with this issue.

    5. Re:Bumper sticker? by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      I checked before posting if they have DeCSS shirts.... They did, that's why I posted them.

      Boston/Mooninite scare? WTF is that? I guess I could google, but I'm about to go to bed.

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    6. Re:Bumper sticker? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

      That can get rough... three or four more generations of badly-secured media upgrades and you'll run out of skin.

    7. Re:Bumper sticker? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Boston totally freaked out over some Lite Brite type signs on 1-31-2007 and had the bomb squad blow them up, even though there's no way in hell anyone who knew anything about explosives could've mistaken them for an IED.

      The signs were ads for a Cartoon Network show called Aqua Team Hunger Force and the characters the signs were of are called "Mooninites" and based on old 8-bit Atari-type game characters. They're best known for giving people the finger (the signs had them doing exactly that; some news shows didn't notice and censor them in their coverage).

      So lots of folks made fun of Boston for being such pansies as to get scared by Lite Brites.

    8. Re:Bumper sticker? by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 2, Funny

      That can get rough... three or four more generations of badly-secured media upgrades and you'll run out of skin.

      Then we'll need more. Our motto can be "Eat more for freedom!"

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    9. Re:Bumper sticker? by |/|/||| · · Score: 1
      Offtopic, but what is the deal with bumper stickers in Europe? I did a fair bit of driving in France last year, and I never saw *any* bumper stickers. I was starting to wonder if they were illegal (yet there were vans with ads covering the entire rear end). Sure, I can accept that most people think bumper stickers are hokey, but everyone? Do you never, ever see one of those funky old cars with 200 stickers on the back?

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    10. Re:Bumper sticker? by mi · · Score: 1

      I want to get this printed up on a bumper sticker. Can anyone recommend a good vendor?

      Try something like this...

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    11. Re:Bumper sticker? by npsimons · · Score: 1

      Offtopic, but what is the deal with bumper stickers in Europe? I did a fair bit of driving in France last year, and I never saw *any* bumper stickers. I was starting to wonder if they were illegal (yet there were vans with ads covering the entire rear end). Sure, I can accept that most people think bumper stickers are hokey, but everyone? Do you never, ever see one of those funky old cars with 200 stickers on the back?

      It's called "taste", something which we have an appalling lack of here in the states. All you have to do is turn on the TV for 10 seconds to realize that this is the tackiest nation on earth. Bumper stickers are just a rude reminder of that fact. I'm not usually one to care about style over substance, but bumper stickers fail on the substance front as well: how shallow are a nation's people when they will put a bumper sticker (or two or three) on their vehicle, yet they won't go to vote? Not to mention believing you can change minds with a catchy slogan pasted on a car.

    12. Re:Bumper sticker? by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      Ehm, I don't know... I guess we have a general dislike of "in-your-face slogans"? Just guessing? Can't speak for other Europeans but I for one do not want any sticker on my car. I'm not a driving billboard.

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    13. Re:Bumper sticker? by pclminion · · Score: 1

      It's called "taste", something which we have an appalling lack of here in the states. All you have to do is turn on the TV for 10 seconds to realize that this is the tackiest nation on earth. Bumper stickers are just a rude reminder of that fact. I'm not usually one to care about style over substance, but bumper stickers fail on the substance front as well: how shallow are a nation's people when they will put a bumper sticker (or two or three) on their vehicle, yet they won't go to vote? Not to mention believing you can change minds with a catchy slogan pasted on a car.

      I agree with you in general. No bumper stickers adorn my car. But I might be willing to make an exception for this one.

      Dumbest bumper sticker in the universe? In my opinion, the stupid "Coexist" sticker made up of various religious symbols. Don't you morons realize that MOST of the religions symbolized by those icons are MASSIVELY INTOLERANT of other viewpoints? "Coexistence" is the LAST thing most people want -- they'd rather eliminate all people on the planet who disagree with them.

  23. Incoming stories by Deorus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've been frenetically digging up incoming stories about this. This is nolonger about the key itself but one's freedom of speech. This demonstrates the worst of the DMCA and how it's being used to harm people's freedom and fair use rights.

    1. Re:Incoming stories by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      So given the usual flippant editorial comment here:

      How long before the magic 16-hex-pairs number shows up in a comment here?

      and the predictable result in terms of 90% of early comments to this thread, exactly how safe is Slashdot under the various safe harbour-style protections of relevant US law?

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    2. Re:Incoming stories by ak_hepcat · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid that they'll come after me.

      So i'll copyright another number:

      81 71 99 8A 15 FC 6B D3 50 C9 DE 4D EB DE 00 48

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    3. Re:Incoming stories by GrievousMistake · · Score: 1

      Just wait until I charge them for their use of my copyrighted number 77 77 77 2E 6D 70 61 61 2E 6F 72 67!

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    4. Re:Incoming stories by mistahkurtz · · Score: 1

      This demonstrates the worst of the DMCA and how it's being used to harm people's freedom and fair use rights.


      i think you meant pair use rights....no?
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  24. Bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    09

    1. Re:Bittorrent by EllisDees · · Score: 4, Funny

      F9

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    2. Re:Bittorrent by quokkapox · · Score: 0

      A bit torrent would look more like 10011000010001111010111110101011011010100100110011 11111101011001

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    3. Re:Bittorrent by LBt1st · · Score: 4, Funny

      11

    4. Re:Bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      09 F9 __ __ __ __ __ __ __ 41 __ __ __ __ __ __
      Cause, y'know, when was the last time you got the file in sequential order?

    5. Re:Bittorrent by autocracy · · Score: 4, Funny

      02

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    6. Re:Bittorrent by DavidTC · · Score: 4, Funny

      9D

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    7. Re:Bittorrent by kaellinn18 · · Score: 4, Funny

      74

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    8. Re:Bittorrent by KingKiki217 · · Score: 5, Funny

      E3

    9. Re:Bittorrent by Valacosa · · Score: 4, Funny

      5B

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    10. Re:Bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      E3

    11. Re:Bittorrent by just_another_sean · · Score: 4, Funny

      D8

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    12. Re:Bittorrent by David_W · · Score: 4, Funny

      41

    13. Re:Bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      56

    14. Re:Bittorrent by Bilange · · Score: 2, Funny

      Seed, please! :(

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    15. Re:Bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      88

    16. Re:Bittorrent by JackStrife17 · · Score: 4, Funny

      C0

    17. Re:Bittorrent by zolaar · · Score: 1

      FA
      ::snicker, snicker::

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    18. Re:Bittorrent by Johnny_Law · · Score: 2, Interesting

      63

    19. Re:Bittorrent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >E3

      No no, that last one was clearly offtopic. Mods, wake up!

    20. Re:Bittorrent by proudfoot · · Score: 4, Funny

      C5

    21. Re:Bittorrent by Lemmeoutada+Collecti · · Score: 1

      09 F9 -- 02 9D 74 E3 -- -- -- -- C5 63 -- 88 C0

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      You can have it fast, accurate, or pretty. Pick any 2.
    22. Re:Bittorrent by loconet · · Score: 3, Funny

      63

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    23. Re:Bittorrent by Starburnt · · Score: 0

      09

      Doh!

  25. Decimal version by pclminion · · Score: 2, Informative

    Treating that number as a big-endian quantity, the representation in decimal is:

    13256278887989457651018865901401704640
    1. Re:Decimal version by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      Aren't you looking for a prime? That one isn't prime...

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    2. Re:Decimal version by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if they licensed their number to allow derivative works? :-p

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    3. Re:Decimal version by Mix+Master+Nixon · · Score: 1

      I got 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640 problems and a bitch ain't one.

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    4. Re:Decimal version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AES keys need not be anything more than 128 bits of random data.

  26. Poetry Contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh nine, eff nine, one one oh too!
    Nine dee, seven four, eee three, five bee.
    Dee ate for one,
    Five six,
    See five,
    Six three, five six, ate eight sea oh!

    1. Re:Poetry Contest by plams · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh freddled gruntbuggly, thy micturations are to me
      as nine dee, seven four, eee three, five bee

    2. Re:Poetry Contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the title...?

      "Ode to a Lump of Green Putty I Found in
      My HD-DVD Player One Midsummer Morning"

    3. Re:Poetry Contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't quit your day job.

    4. Re:Poetry Contest by sirenbrian · · Score: 1

      Or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
      See if I don't!

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    5. Re:Poetry Contest by LehiNephi · · Score: 1

      I'm sure that somewhere, this exact string of 128 bits appears either in some compiled code, or in some image, or in a media file. Would it be illegal to say "look at offset 0xdeadbeef in [linked file]"?

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    6. Re:Poetry Contest by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Ode To A Small Lump of Green hexadecimal Putty called 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 I Found In My Armpit One Midsummer Morning"

      Oh, the classics!

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    7. Re:Poetry Contest by Yonder+Way · · Score: 1

      Jennnny I got your number!

    8. Re:Poetry Contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you better copyright that nice poem, dont want anyone "stealing" it.

    9. Re:Poetry Contest by Hemogoblin · · Score: 1

      Heres an excellent sung version for you:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9HaNbsIfp0

    10. Re:Poetry Contest by forkazoo · · Score: 1

      Okay, here is my entry...

      It's about a man called Dee who is trying to proposition several prositutes, but insists that that he has won the services of one or two in a previous competition. The german madam disagrees and insists that the rate will be seven (hundred Euros) for the three women, "If I have (a) [body guard]" - and the refers idiomatically to her body guard as if he were a bumble bee, given his ability to "sting" the stingy patron.

      -Oh, "nein?" F--- "nein." Won one o' two!
      -Nein, Dee. Seven for 'e three, 'f I've bee.

      I'll finish it later...

    11. Re:Poetry Contest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Oh nine, Eff nine, eleven, oh two,
      I have some poetry to read to you.

      > Oh freddled gruntbuggly, thy micturations are to me
      > as nine dee, seven four, eee three, five bee,

      Groop, I implore thee, my dee eight forty-ones,
      And fiftysix cee-five me,
      With six-three bindlewurdles,
      Or I'll five-six thee in the eighty-eights, with my blurglecruncheon,
      "C" if I d-"0"-n't!

      - poem in public domain, hopefully the original poster will enjoy it and post it in the next Digg/MPAA-vs-the-world thread on Slashdot :)

  27. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE 'SPACEBALLS' JOKE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FOR THE FOURTEENTH TIME

  28. Tag It! by SilentOneNCW · · Score: 4, Insightful

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 Seriously, tag it.

    1. Re:Tag It! by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      If tagging, remember to use
      09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0

      Otherwise it'll treat each byte as a separate tag, and probably also sort it all alphabetically!

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    2. Re:Tag It! by mudimba · · Score: 1

      I tagged it . . . graffiti style . . . on the MPAA's website:

      http://drawhere.com/sitel/12249/www.mpaa.org/

      The safest place to keep something is right under your enemy's nose.

    3. Re:Tag It! by Ralph+Yarro · · Score: 4, Informative

      Tags can contain numbers but mustn't start with a number. It won't give you an error but you'll see that it doesn't "remember" your tag like it normally would. Don't think the dollar sign works at the beginning of a tag either either. So the tag needs to be something like : hex09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

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    4. Re:Tag It! by cyborg_zx · · Score: 1

      Done for hilarity.

    5. Re:Tag It! by dapsychous · · Score: 1

      Somebody mod this funny. I laughed until I cried.

    6. Re:Tag It! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since the first number in the sequence is happily a zero, one could likely exchange it for the letter O without causing too much confusion.

    7. Re:Tag It! by quiahuitl · · Score: 1

      Bookmark it! fun day :D

  29. Civil Disobedience by ewhac · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I repudiate the DMCA, and all who would enforce it. It is a corrupt law, born of a corrupt process, in the service of corrupt people. As such, I will not respect or observe it, and you shouldn't, either.

    The media processing key for AACS is: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

    Schwab

    1. Re:Civil Disobedience by Goaway · · Score: 1

      Wow, you sure are a brave rebel, posting it on somebody else's webpage.

    2. Re:Civil Disobedience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As such, I will not respect or observe it, and you shouldn't, either.

      Does that mean you're going to be copying boat hull designs, in disregard for Title V of the DMCA?

    3. Re:Civil Disobedience by AusIV · · Score: 1

      At least he didn't do it as an Anonymous coward.

    4. Re:Civil Disobedience by Joey+Vegetables · · Score: 1

      While I agree with what you're saying, I'd go further. If you read the 9th and 10th Amendments, it becomes clear that the same thing is true of most so-called "laws." Thus I would propose that it is not individual laws, but the corrupt system itself, that needs to be altered or abolished.

  30. Easy way to remember, kind of by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

    Now typing '09 F' in Google Suggest brings it up.

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  31. The RIAA has lots of work ahead... by fbrehm · · Score: 4, Funny

    http://www.google.com/search?q=09+F9+11+02+9D+74+E 3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C0

    Results 1 - 10 of about 279,000 for 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

    1. Re:The RIAA has lots of work ahead... by just_another_sean · · Score: 1

      Seriously, even quoting "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" for the exact match returns:

      Results 1 - 10 of about 9,420 for "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0". (0.17 seconds)


      Link:

      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 must be a very popular number!

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    2. Re:The RIAA has lots of work ahead... by owlstead · · Score: 1

      280.000 and going! LOL.

    3. Re:The RIAA has lots of work ahead... by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Which of course includes every page full of hex crap. The actual hits using quotes are 1030 with spaces and 901 without. Still, that's a whole lot of sites...

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    4. Re:The RIAA has lots of work ahead... by just_another_sean · · Score: 1

      Link:

      Oops.

      Sorry 'bout that.

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    5. Re:The RIAA has lots of work ahead... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you use Google Suggest (e.g. in Firefox), type "09 f9" and wait. The rest will appear.

  32. *Sigh* by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 1

    It's DeCSS all over again.

  33. Hmmm.... by Otter · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    How long until the long arm of the MPAA gets to my own site (run in Ecuador)...?

    Don't sweat it -- Evo Morales will probably have disbanded the legal system by the time your case gets that far. Just hope your site isn't nationalized first.

    1. Re:Hmmm.... by TrixX · · Score: 1

      He said Ecuador, not Bolivia

    2. Re:Hmmm.... by Otter · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Errr, make that Rafael Correa. Hard to keep track of which Latin American country is being demolished by whom, nowadays.

    3. Re:Hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Corrected while you were posting -- you need to be faster than me to stay ahead of you guys!

    4. Re:Hmmm.... by MPAB · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Ecuador's Correa is another puppet for Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro, just as Bolivia's Morales is and Peru's Humala was meant to be.

    5. Re:Hmmm.... by spun · · Score: 1

      Reality check: there is no vast South American socialist conspiracy. It just so happens that these democratically elected leaders are doing what their constituents wanted by taking back resources that were stolen by capitalists in the first place.

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    6. Re:Hmmm.... by spun · · Score: 1

      I know, all that privatization going on down there has been a nightmare, hasn't it?

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    7. Re:Hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is American, he doesn't understand democracy.
      Democracy for them is voting the same ideology, implemented the same way with some slightly different makeup, everyone else hates freedom.

  34. Here's why DRM fails by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 1

    All that is needed for AACS to be cracked is for one guy to break it. Out of a few hundred trying. Then they pass it along to everyone else. Even if the crack ultimately requires hardware alterations, you only need a few rippers to get 75% of the major releases. AACS may ultimately succeed in making an unlicensed player impractical, but it won't stop pirates and hackers.

  35. Attention Webmasters! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Put this number on your front page somewhere as a protest!

    1. Re:Attention Webmasters! by Quantenmechaniker · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why don't I see this on your SourceForge project site then ... ?

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    2. Re:Attention Webmasters! by LordMakwa · · Score: 1
    3. Re:Attention Webmasters! by Magic+Fingers · · Score: 0

      You can have your printer utility prints these numbers on the footer of each page it prints.

    4. Re:Attention Webmasters! by jamesshuang · · Score: 1
  36. Is this really supprising? by emil10001 · · Score: 1

    Didn't this happen with DVD's also? Wasn't there a big thing about that t-shirt with the CSS key on it?

    So, I can see the libs for this getting pushed to servers located in countries where consumers are allowed to consume the content that they paid for, similar to the current dvd situation. So, for me, I only add the repository of whatever server, or even visit said server myself (perhaps with a secure, or tor connection) to download the library for my own use.

    So, while I don't agree that it is "right" to "censor a number," it won't really affect me, or anyone else interested in seeing said number. That is, if I decide to go ahead and purchase that DRM'd crapware, which probably won't be any time soon.

    On second thought, to be safe, I should probably grab said lib now.

    Here's a "how to" from ubuntu on the subject.
  37. I do believe this particular cat ... by fm6 · · Score: 1

    ... is out of the bag.

  38. FP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0'th post!

  39. who will win... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if it turns out this number is long enough to be copyrighted...couldn't mplayer just do a brute force search--and start it at some random number close to the actual number...then the brute force search could continue for a few seconds until it magically hits the right key--- it's like a 'lucky seed'

  40. Some high profile sites have this number by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just noticed that http://www.hidebehind.com/ (free image/movie host) has this in hex down at the bottom of many of their pages. It doesn't look out of place with all the hex codes in the site..
    Neet!

  41. Hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there a walk through on how to use this number? If such a resource exists, that might convince a few of my friends to finally see the light in linux..

  42. For those keeping score at home.... by ReverendLoki · · Score: 5, Funny

    The score so far:

    Posts mentioning the infamous hex 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0: 25
    Posts remarking how they have the same number as their luggage combination: 5

    Stay tuned, folks, the game ain't over yet!

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    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    1. Re:For those keeping score at home.... by Kuvter · · Score: 1

      Comments modded 5 with 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 as their sig: 2

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    2. Re:For those keeping score at home.... by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 1

      > Posts remarking how they have the same number as their luggage combination: 5

      that's the kind of combination an idiot would have on his DVDs!

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  43. Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    The server is probably going to catch fire soon, because it's sloooooow. Here's the text of TFA. Posting AC to avoid lawsuits :)

    Spread this number

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. Wanna know what's so important about it?

    ...Welcome, Diggers and Redditors -- we're serving 15 hits per second, so try and be patient. If you have some extra time, here's how to make WordPress weather bad traffic storms (middle-click the link). Back to our regular programming...

    The movie industry is threatening Spooky Action at a Distance for publishing that number, specifically with copyright infringement.

    I had no idea a number could be copyrighted.

    Anyhow, what is it? From the site:

    It's the HD-DVD Processing Key for most movies released so far. I was not aware that a string of numbers and letters was copyrightable. Perhaps its just my ignorance but it seems that someone is abusing the DMCA again.

    This means the (admittedly long) number is precisely the key you need in order to decrypt and watch HD-DVD movies in Linux (oh, okay, maybe software is also required). And the fact that it's out there, spreading like wildfire, is killing the types at the movie studios right now.

    Now, even if this number stopped working (and it will, thanks to the revocation procedures in HD-DVD's encryption scheme) or if it were a hoax, the decryption system has already been figured out and is implemented in a software program called BackupHDDVD.

    We did it with DVDs and DeCSS, and today I can use my trusty MPlayer to play any DVD movie. We will eventually (rather soon) view HD-DVDs in Linux as well (because the codecs are already there, even if they are illegal in some countries).

    Let's show them no amount of DMCA will stop us.

    Oh, do you crave for source code? Let the Doom9 forums answer your prayers. If you'd like an explanation in news format, WIRED may be what you were looking for.

    Apologies to Diggers worldwide for the downtime. The traffic storm forced me to turn certain functionality off, yet I'm still seeing more than 40 hits per second at the console. I don't want to sound like a tinfoil hatter, but Digg censored my initial submission and nixed my user account (RuddO). Fortunately, charitable souls posted a new link. The Digg button at the right should work now. Thanks and keep the hits coming.

    Alert! Digg.com is issuing 404 Not Found on all of its pages. Please confirm this independently, and keep spreading the word through other means. Everything is back to normal at Digg, but the original story just vanished.

    People at the Digg story are suggesting a Googlebomb with the words HD-DVD and BluRay pointing to this story. Do Googlebombs still work?

    Digg censored the second story submission again, and all others as well. For the record, the story was censored at around 15700 Diggs, and we suspect it broke several records. Anyway, the story got propelled to Reddit's front page and to Del.icio.us popular, so it's reaching people steadily -- all that's left now is to be Slashdotted. I'll publish an article telling the graphical story later today.
  44. 09 V4 8G 57 BK SD DT GG AM OL HL D2 60 by scottsevertson · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wonder if they'll be searching for the number in different forms... Like base 32?

    Aside: looks like *someone* killed the Digg story that included the number after a ROT-13 transform (http://digg.com/tech_news/A_useful_copyrighted_st ring_use_the_linked_URL_to_get_your_desired_target ). Anyone want to place bets on whether Digg preemptively killed that story versus received a takedown notice? I'm guessing the former.

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  45. Isn't this the key that was revoked? by sakdoctor · · Score: 1

    If so then why the attempt at censorship.

    1. Re:Isn't this the key that was revoked? by sakdoctor · · Score: 1

      Ah, player keys are the ones that get revoked. This is THE key.
      Good so AACS is totally broken, but I haven't really been following this story since I'm never going to buy into HD-DVD ever.

  46. Oh good... by vonPoonBurGer · · Score: 1

    ...I needed a new sig anyway.

  47. Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by sabre86 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I read this slashdot post, the first thing I thought was "I bet there's a wikipedia article on it!" Sure enough, either somebody has posted one and it's been deleted and protected, or the editors went ahead and jumped on it and protected it. (I haven't checked yet, though there are "additional information links. Nor have I check it in other bases.)

    Guess I should look into postng this to one of the "anti-censorship on wikipeida" sites.

    For what it's worth, this is utter crap, but it shows a severe weakness in copyright law. Anything that can be represented with data, anything at all, can be encoded/encrpyted on anything else, given an arbitrary coding mechanism. For instance, let us create "sabre86's stanard coding scheme": add 1 to any number. After encoding we have 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C1. Look, it's a different number! I guess it isn't a circumvention. Or is it?

    You can extend this logic arbitarily to anything, so that not only can any string represent any other string (and thus be a "copy"), any string can be the key to an encoding scheme, meaning that posting any string is "circumvention" if I see fit to describe my encryption process such that it encrypts/encodes a copyrighted work using that string as a "key."

    So all strings are copyrighted because they can derived from other copyrighted strings through an arbitrary encoding scheme and all strings are potentially circumventions of DRM/CRAP because they are both a representation of a known key in a different encoding and the key for some other arbitrary encryption algorithm that "circumvents the copyright protections."

    Bullshit

    --sabre86

    1. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there a way we could get this onto a US government website? That of a congress person?

    2. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by W2k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Many politicians have blogs. As for government (.gov) websites, the Library of Congress blog allows comments.

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    3. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by nonsequitor · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points today, that's probably the most lucid post on the subject as of yet. The rest are all just luggage combination jokes or alternate encodings. So you'll have to settle for a +1 Insightful in my reply. *tips hat*

    4. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by Mr.Intel · · Score: 1

      There is another wiki entry with the key in it here. Apparently, you can't have the key in a title, but you can have it in the body of the article. Or perhaps, wiki just hasn't been told to kill that part of the article yet...

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    5. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by Mr.Intel · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Preview button is for whimps. linky

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    6. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by Phs2501 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, but the beautiful thing is that now the number lives on in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protected_t itles/April_2007/List , so it's still technically available on Wikipedia!

    7. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by carabela · · Score: 1

      Have a look at this informative Wikipedia page instead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Access_Conte nt_System

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    8. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by hsdpa · · Score: 1

      Well, there is another wikipedia-article, B D84156C5635688C0>, but I guess it will be deleted soon because of "This article or other page provides no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. It is patent nonsense (CSD G1).".

      So if one wants to save the article, write some context in it.

      However, I think it's crazy that the existence of a number can just vanish from the net.

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    9. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by phliar · · Score: 1
      Wiki article deleted and locked down, eh? Hmmm, let's look at the April '07 protected list:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protected_t itles/April_2007/List

      And there it is, right at the top of the page.

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    10. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Killed. But it's still in the article history comments!

    11. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      here's another article (i just created, feel free to add more info there)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/09-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3- 5B-D8-41-56-C5-63-56-88-C0

    12. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It got marked for speedy deletion, with the following. Note that I attempted to follow the instructions, but it was deleted before I had a chance to complete them.

      Although the key lives on at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special: Log/delete&page=09-F9-11-02-9D-74-E3-5B-D8-41-56-C 5-63-56-88-C0

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      If this page does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion, or you intend to fix it, please remove this notice, but do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself. If you created this page and you disagree with this page's proposed speedy deletion, please add:

              {{hangon}}

      to the top of this page, and then explain why you believe this article should not be deleted on its talk page.

      This will alert administrators to your intention, and should permit you the time to write your explanation.
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    13. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      I recreated it, this time with relevant wikilinks, and a link to this thread (to satisfy the notoriety requirements...)

    14. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by rhythmx · · Score: 1

      Would you send me scalar(Adobe Photoshop) minus scalar(MS Office)? I have Office already and I need a copy of Photoshop, but I don't want to have to pirate it.

    15. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      erm, you mean notability, not notoriety?

    16. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by SYSS+Mouse · · Score: 1
      I nominated the article for deletion when an admin chose to speedy delete it.

      I decided to launch a deletion review here.

    17. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by bananaendian · · Score: 1

      The following would at least annoy them and at most illustrate the point clearly:

      Device a simple perl/C/Java/Assembly algorithm which encrypts 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C1 into a cipher with a key that is the string "WIKIPEDIA". Post the routine and cipher and instruction on a separate site and then place DMCA take down notice to Wikipedia that the string 'WIKIPEDIA' should be removed everywhere from Wikipedia as it is now officially part of a system to "circumvent copyright protection."

      And as you're doing that, might as well do algorithms for "Jimmy Wales" and "Richard Stallman" - then we'll see some action...

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    18. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      The Wikipedia page for discussing the hastily-performed speedy-delete of the article. For some reason, a proper article for deletion could not be performed and some editor had to go and speedy-delete it. As a consequence, the normal airing of both sides by editors of varied backgrounds is not going on. Wikipedia really sucks when certain admins decide to circumvent process and then use the outcome that happened because of their circumvention as retroactive justification. The speedy-delete editor, by the way, is calling the number an exploit.

    19. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      For instance, let us create "sabre86's stanard coding scheme": add 1 to any number. After encoding we have 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C1. Look, it's a different number!
      Spooky, isn't it?

      Try this one. Take the number, and xor it against itself. What happens? You get a completely different number. In fact, you get that same result from every AACS key!
      --
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    20. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by ralmin · · Score: 1

      The censored number is still on Wikipedia! Although they made it invisible (with ) in the list of protected titles, it still appears in the source when you click 'view source'.

      Wikipedia:Protected titles/May 2007/List

    21. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That line of thought is exactly the justification behind a lightnet p2p app that's floating out there somewhere (the name slips my mind right now).

      Basic premise: a segment of a given file can be used to recreate any of a number of random files, so there is no way the data is infringing a copyright, as it could be a component of any number of non-copyright files as well.

    22. Re:Wikipedia article on the number is down too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do the same with MPAA.

  48. SOVIET RUSSIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    In SOVIET RUSSIA, 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 censors you!

    1. Re:SOVIET RUSSIA by DViper01 · · Score: 1

      In SOVIET RUSSIA, 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 censors you! I thought that people all around the world running Windows Vista get this key censored unless a Microsoft employee hits "allow" instead of "cancel".
    2. Re:SOVIET RUSSIA by robot_love · · Score: 1

      No no no! "...descrambles you!" is way funnier. Just ask me.

      --
      .there is enough of everything for everyone.
    3. Re:SOVIET RUSSIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That one was too obvious, so obvious in fact, i was intending to post that.

  49. Posting keys on the web. by raidient · · Score: 1

    Just have two separate sites each post half of a key. They would have to argue that a site should be taken down just because it contains *some* of the numbers in *their* key.

    --
    My faith is expressed through Nihilism. Do you understand?
  50. Dugg? by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

    What the author does not mention, of course, is that he paid $100 twice to get on digg. No wonder he's so pissed now.

    1. Re:Dugg? by Rudd-O · · Score: 1

      Hahahahaaa. Good one!

      (I honestly didn't game the system. I guess people are really pissed off at the MAFIAAs)

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  51. I went to register the domain... by Saint+Aardvark · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...and I was too late. However, .net and .org are still open...

    1. Re:I went to register the domain... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, but the website account is currently suspended now. LOL

    2. Re:I went to register the domain... by pianoben · · Score: 0

      ...and if you attempt to access http://www.09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.com/, you'll notice that it appears to have already been the victim of an MPAA takedown.

    3. Re:I went to register the domain... by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Someone needs to file a trademark on that number, because domain name law explicitly protects trademarks and doesn't give a damn about copyrights.

      --
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  52. Tag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If ever a story deserved to be tagged hex09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0 then it's this one. Remember, your tag must start with an alphabetical character, and it takes a lot more tagging than it used to to get up there in lights.

    1. Re:Tag by bradkittenbrink · · Score: 2

      Excellent idea! Personally, I've gone back and tagged Decryption Keys For HD-DVD Found, Confirmed and AACS Cracked Again with the same tag for good measure.

    2. Re:Tag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the way, I have looked on Wikipedia everywhere and cannot find an article about this important number. Interestingly, the number was not all that important until the government-enforced censorship, via the coercive means of the DMCA, took place. Can anyone point me to the article? I swear it has to be there somewhere.

    3. Re:Tag by Ben174 · · Score: 1

      We did it :) This story has been tagged hex09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

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  53. How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by Myria · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How long must a number be to be copyrightable? Any digital file, including programs, can be written as a number, yet obviously pictures and programs can be copyrighted. The number 1 cannot be copyrighted, but the 98641-decimal-digit number corresponding to the original Super Mario Bros. ROM images can be. Where is the line drawn? Can cryptographic keys be copyrighted? Can the MPAA use a (long) key containing a copyrightable image so that the cryptographic key is copyrighted as well?

    --
    "Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Let's move on and steal the Java language." - Visual J++ Product Manager
    1. Re:How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
      Can cryptographic keys be copyrighted? Can the MPAA use a (long) key containing a copyrightable image so that the cryptographic key is copyrighted as well?

      That's how at least one computer BIOS was protected. The company name (IBM, IIRC) was placed in the BIOS, and the software looked for it at a specific location. People trying to duplicate the BIOS found themselves on the wrong end of a trademark suit against a big company with nearly as many (and much better paid) lawyers as programmers.

      --
      "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
    2. Re:How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by Mattintosh · · Score: 1

      The number 1 cannot be copyrighted, but the 98641-decimal-digit number corresponding to the original Super Mario Bros. ROM images can be.

      Neither number is copyrightable. However, the interpretation (via 65c02 machine code) of one of those numbers is copyrightable. Notice that the SMB copyright notice only shows up ("© 1985 Nintendo") if you interpret it correctly, otherwise it's just a really big number.

      Unfortunately, explaining that to a lawyer (or politician or judge) is likely to: (a) be met with a fierce scowl at your "heathen" interpretation of the law, (b) be met with a fierce invoice for "wasting his time", and (c) his head asplode!!!11one1 None of those things is conducive to change, except with regard to your bank account balance in (b).

    3. Re:How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by Seismologist · · Score: 1

      3M ?

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      ~ In Trust, We Trust ~
    4. Re:How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by Myria · · Score: 1

      The company name (IBM, IIRC) was placed in the BIOS, and the software looked for it at a specific location. People trying to duplicate the BIOS found themselves on the wrong end of a trademark suit ...

      Yes, but that's trademark law and not copyright law. Sega v. Accolade seems to invalidate attempts at locking in like this.

      --
      "Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Let's move on and steal the Java language." - Visual J++ Product Manager
    5. Re:How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Ah, but they're actually fucked under copyright law, if this number was reverse engineered.

      If so, than the MPAA has no claim on it at all. Why? Because independently invented works are not subject to the original copyright.

      If I've been living on an island for the last decade, and I get rescued with all seven Harry Potter books, which I have independently written on tree bark, having never seen the originals, I own the copyright on those. I can copy them, sell them, whatever. Patents work the other way, independent reinvention isn't a valid claim, but copyrights only prevent actual copying.

      This is mostly meaningless, except sometimes in the music recording industry where tunes have been independently reinvented.

      But if I run a mechanical process that generates a bunch of numbers until one works to unlock ACS, then I didn't copy the number from anywhere. I made that number up myself, and the fact someone has a copyright on an exactly identical number is irrelevant.

      --
      If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
    6. Re:How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by Runefox · · Score: 1

      Inasmuch as Intel was unsuccessful in trademarking a number (80586/i586 ("Pentium")), the MPAA will, hopefully, never be allowed to trademark/copyright/fornicate with theirs, either.

      --
      Screw the rules, I have green hair!
    7. Re:How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by sabre86 · · Score: 1

      Indeed.

      After all, it's copyright, not creationright.

    8. Re:How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Yes, I'm aware they're issuing takedown notices under the DMCA because they're claiming the number is an illegal device, not because they have the copyright on it.

      I was just pointing out that even if the number was copyrightable, which is moderately likely, unless someone broke into the MPAA and stole it, this number is not, legally, a copy of that number, even if they are identical.

      --
      If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
    9. Re:How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by Baricom · · Score: 1

      As much as I wish that were so, it's not. The MPAA isn't claiming copyright on the key; they're claiming that it's an anti-circumvention measure. That's covered by a different part of the DMCA.

    10. Re:How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by samwichse · · Score: 1

      Seven digits? 867-5309!

    11. Re:How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      That's not copyrightable - I'll bet you just found that number on a wall!

      --
      Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
    12. Re:How long must a number be to be copyrightable? by tinkerghost · · Score: 1

      In the real world, since there is only 1 way to make the hexidecimal representation, it's not copyrightable. It is afterall, just a number. So, I'm not sure how exactly they are claiming to have 'writen' a numerical sequence that has arguably existed since the dawn of time itself.

      Perhaps NYCL could provide some enlightenment for us, but it was my understanding that purely factual items can't be copyrighted. Thus you can't copyright "Water - H20;Hydrochloric Acid HCl;". Likewise if there is only 1 way to write something, it can't be under copyright - #define brokenerr = 4;

      Thus given the fact that the key to the HDDVD encoding is as presented, and it's a number with only 1 way in each base to write it, it shouldn't be elligable for copyright protection.

  54. How about... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 3, Funny
    How long before the magic 16-hex-pairs number shows up in a comment here?

    How about in everybody's sig line on Slashdot as protest?

    Now what was that number again?

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    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  55. Ah, screw it... by Chysn · · Score: 1

    In Soviet Russia, the DCMA hexes YOU!

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    -- See?
  56. evil acid spitting pirates by geoff+lane · · Score: 1
    If I'm an evil acid spitting pirate I don't care about DRM. If I can hear it or see it, I can copy it. And guess what? There are customers out there who WILL buy a cheap copy made by putting a camera in front of a TV screen.

    But, thanks to the special qualities of digital encoding, any given DRM only has to broken ONCE. The cost for the first crack may be high and take a few months, but the second and subsequent copies are effectively free. So my pirate business model is simple and economically valid.

    And the killer fact is... if you prevent copying, the number of full price sales doesn't increase.

  57. I know why they picked that key! by edashofy · · Score: 0, Troll

    It turns out that the key is the MD5 hash of "SQUEAMISH OSSIFRAGE"

    1. Re:I know why they picked that key! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      md5 SQUEAMISH OSSIFRAGE
      d7f81efbffc671854b41ea29b342b376
  58. Everything digital is a number by Mr_Icon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everything digital is as a number (hence the name "digital").

    Circumvention software? A long number. PDFs with classified military information? Long numbers. Child porn? Long numbers. Having those illegal numbers on your hard drive will get you convicted.

    So, if you are going to argue that numbers can't be illegal, think about the above examples, and reconsider your arguing strategy -- you will not win that argument with a judge.

    --
    If you open yourself to the foo, You and foo become one.
    1. Re:Everything digital is a number by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It really depends on the context. There's more to an application than its numerical representation. The way you boil things down sounds profound, but there's a lot missing - I don't believe the 'number' representing a piece of software is protected by copyright since there are so many external factors. For example, the same number in one OS could mean something completely different in another. Your argument is bogus.

    2. Re:Everything digital is a number by Paracelcus · · Score: 0

      Encrypt everything, trust nothing, paranoia is good, trust is bad, tell nobody where you live, bank overseas in anonymous accounts, communicate through overseas secure tunnels (including voip), don't hold down a job because THEY might know where you are, always check for an escape route, have your bags packed and have your passport ready!

      I'm about due for my afternoon pills...

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    3. Re:Everything digital is a number by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 1

      Heroin? Just some carbon, oxygen, hydrogen....

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    4. Re:Everything digital is a number by Mr_Icon · · Score: 1

      Yes, a very excellent point. Context. The number is only illegal when you're applying it in illegal manner. I'm not saying that I adhere to the idea of illegal numbers -- I'm just pointing out that the concept is alive and well in modern jurisprudence.

      Hence, yes -- the argument is bogus. Sadly, it's a bogus argument with strong legal precedents, and overturning those will be tricky and difficult.

      --
      If you open yourself to the foo, You and foo become one.
    5. Re:Everything digital is a number by ShaggyIan · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's why I've copyrighted all my classified military information and child pornography.

      Purportedly, these are disappearing due to Digital Millenium Copyright Act notices. Arguing illegal and arguing copyright infringing are different things.

      I suppose that's why there are copyright lawyers, the illegality of abetting copyright infringment is still gray-ish, and only easily leveled at businesses.

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    6. Re:Everything digital is a number by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      Yes, but very few of those things are 128 bits or less. All copyrights have length requirements--for example, the two little bits at the end of the Jeopardy tune are there because otherwise it wouldn't be more than 30 seconds long and would be uncopyrightable.

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  59. This is not censorship by Orig_Club_Soda · · Score: 1

    Any more than you wanting to keep your social security number confidential.

    You alarmist and exaggeraters are ruining legitimate complaints.

    1. Re:This is not censorship by Ralph+Yarro · · Score: 1

      censorship : 1 a : the institution, system, or practice of censoring

      censoring : inflected form of censor : to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable

      If they find this content objectionable (they do) and therefore seek to suppress or delete it then they're engaged in censorship. Yes, the same goes for your social security number. I know, that makes the world a scary place when some censoring may be GOOD and other censoring BAD. Welcome to the real world. Please drive carefully.

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      The real Ralph Yarro posts as Anonymous Coward. Anyone else is an impostor.
    2. Re:This is not censorship by Orig_Club_Soda · · Score: 1

      It's amazing that you can post and read the definition of censorship and still can't comprehend the meaning of it when applied to politics.

      How about uncensoring your bank account numbers and passwords for me.... Cause you know, all censorship of numbers - especially to protect your economic resources - is bad.

    3. Re:This is not censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's amazing that you can post and read the definition of censorship and still can't comprehend the meaning of it when applied to politics.

      How about uncensoring your bank account numbers and passwords for me.... Cause you know, all censorship of numbers - especially to protect your economic resources - is bad. So you admit that it is actually censorship.
    4. Re:This is not censorship by Ralph+Yarro · · Score: 1

      How about uncensoring your bank account numbers and passwords for me.... Cause you know, all censorship of numbers - especially to protect your economic resources - is bad.

      Read my post again. Slowly. Concentrate on the bit where I say "some censoring may be GOOD and other censoring BAD". Read it again. Think hard. Could I be suggesting that censorship isn't always bad? No? Try again.
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      The real Ralph Yarro posts as Anonymous Coward. Anyone else is an impostor.
    5. Re:This is not censorship by Orig_Club_Soda · · Score: 1

      No - I want your account numbers. You have no right to keep those numbers to yourself. You are just profiting of of keeping them private.

  60. More Information at chillingeffects.org by Nosajjason · · Score: 4, Informative

    More information about AACS's (Access Content System Licensing Administrator, LLC) take down notices can be found at: http://www.chillingeffects.org/index.cgi

    and specifically: http://www.chillingeffects.org/anticircumvention/n otice.cgi?NoticeID=7180

    They give an example of AACS's take down notices and pretty good legal analysis of its contents.

    1. Re:More Information at chillingeffects.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The interesting thing is that in the takedown notice, one of the URLs specified actually contains the key. Can they prevent you from showing the takedown notice?

    2. Re:More Information at chillingeffects.org by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      They can, but just be sure to show the takedown notice itself at a URL that includes the key. Repeat.

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      If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
  61. Other links by Z0mb1eman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've been watching this happening on digg today (first time I've even really read digg in a long time, coincidentally :p)

    I saw one story with the key go from 200 to over 800 "diggs" in something like 20 minutes, then it got deleted.

    In about the same time, this story, which links to this blog got up to 2-300 "diggs", then was removed from the front page.

    My favourite submission so far was this, which linked to this image: http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/3967/gitshddvdkb7 .png ... and the digg story got deleted while I was typing this post. Fun fun.

    I think I'll stick with Slashdot ;)

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    1. Re:Other links by Bluskale · · Score: 1

      Oh Laughing Man tie in, that's some good stuff there.

  62. Google seems to have lost the page I'm looking for by _iris · · Score: 1

    This search returns a cached link, but when I try to view the cached copy, it's mysteriously no longer there. Anyone know why Google might do this other than the obvious conspiracy theory?

  63. Check my signature by killmenow · · Score: 5, Funny

    Look at old posts. I've been using that exact sequence of hex digits as my signature on posts since the beginning.

    1. Re:Check my signature by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Um, if I remember correctly, changing your sig appears "retroactivly" on previous posts because the system doesn't save what it doesn't need; it just regenerates your post by mixing the text in with the basic scheme and your profile's sig whenever someone wants to look at a posting.

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    2. Re:Check my signature by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Be quiet, we're screwing with the lawyers.

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    3. Re:Check my signature by Control+Group · · Score: 1

      Wow...this must be some kind of meta-humor that's way too abstruse for me to get.

      'Cause surely no one could possibly have missed the joke that completely.

      --

      Reality has a conservative bias: it conserves mass, energy, momentum...
    4. Re:Check my signature by MooUK · · Score: 1

      Shhhhhhh.

      Yes, you're right. But they don't need to know!

    5. Re:Check my signature by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Congratulations, you figured out the joke!

      Now let's work towards laughing at it.

      (Seriously, where the hell do these humorless people come from? I used to think everybody was born with a sense of humor. What a fool I was!)

    6. Re:Check my signature by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Which hilights a rather annoying bug in Slashcode: Your sig is looked up and added by a script at read-time for every message you've posted. This means that should you ever change your sig, people looking through your past comments will see your new sig and wonder what the hell you were on about.

      I think it needs fixing.

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    7. Re:Check my signature by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 1

      Humorless? Ouch...

      I freely admit it was a (very) poor joke; I guess I shouldn't have relied on my sig to signal it was a joke. That or fewer people know what 'gravitas' is than I thought.

      --
      Demented But Determined.
  64. Great move by eebra82 · · Score: 1

    What a great move by the MPAA. I wonder if anyone over there actually thought it would be reasonable to even attempt a stunt like a few numbers when they cannot even bring down Pirate Bay.

    Someone must have thought it is possible to stop the spread of it, but any reasonable person knows this is more like a great way of boosting the spread. All sites that refused to spread the code did so. Now that the MPAA created this upset, it is now published all over the world and then commented in thousands of articles, spreading to more places than ever before.

    Also, searching "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" results in over 1,000 hits, obviously growing rapidly and also cached up by Google.

    The MPAA should know that removing a copied movie is difficult and nearly impossible. To remove a piece of text IS impossible.

  65. prior art on the DVD key by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I haven't found the exact page, but I'm sure it's in in here somewhere:

    http://www.amazon.com/Million-Random-Digits-Normal -Deviates/dp/0833030477

  66. Censorship? Yes. Illegal? Maybe by Kenbw · · Score: 1

    I'll probably be modding down for this thought, but someone needs to ask...

    I do not doubt at all that this is censorship by a company. The funny thing is that the U.S. constitution does not say that this is illegal. All that is illegal in this country is the government making a law that allows for censorship. Censorship happens all the times in the private sector. I can't talk about certain things that pertain to my job, when I was working for a public company I couldn't discuss knowledge that could affect the outcome of selling stock. How is this any different.

    It is one company a company/trade group that is trying to protect some valuable information, why should this be illegal and have everyone get up in arms about it because it inconveniences your life becuase then you'd have to actually do the work to figure out this key instead and how to go about using it.

    Just a thought, but as I said above it has always puzzled me why people scream censorship about this stuff.

  67. A possible turn of events...? by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Funny

    Indeed, it has silently disappeared from Digg again, for the second time.
    I think basically this turn of events unfolded, although I might not have got the numbers 100% accurate yet!

    9 hackers looking into poor security,
    249 MPAA lawyers browsing porn in the silence before the storm.

    17 sites spreading the news,
    2 sites surviving the mass visits.

    157 drops of sweat down the AACS team's cheeks,
    116 frantic phone calls buzzing in the offices.

    227 lawyers starting up Plan B,
    There's now 91 sites to shut down.

    $216 sent as bribe for the Digg staff,
    still 65 sites still up and running.

    86 shutdown reasons discovered by abusing the DMCA,
    197 prayers one will work.

    99 sites now publishing the keys... oh wait!
    86 managers finding the case is slipping out of control.

    136 confused MPAA members mumbling about HD-DVD keys,
    192 reasons found to keep trying to stifle sales. :-(

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    1. Re:A possible turn of events...? by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      Cute ;-) Nicely done.

      Kudos.

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    2. Re:A possible turn of events...? by captnjameskirk · · Score: 1

      I have seen at least 10 stories about this on Digg today get yanked. Even stories about the yanking get yanked. It's not looking good over there. Hang on, incoming transmission... "zero-niner, foxtrot-niner, zero-two, niner-delta, seventy-four, echo-three, five-bravo, delta-eight, forty-one, fifty-six, charlie-five, sixty-three, fifty-six, snowman-snowman, charlie-zero"

    3. Re:A possible turn of events...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "... in the Land of Morder, where the shadows lie."

    4. Re:A possible turn of events...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And for the rest... there's mastercard

    5. Re:A possible turn of events...? by ClamIAm · · Score: 1
      I have an addendum to your post:

      One Key to rule them all, One Key to find them, One Key to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
    6. Re:A possible turn of events...? by JFMulder · · Score: 1

      And a brand new encry---ption key!

  68. Make it an "illegal prime" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...just like last time.

    Besides, why are they using such small keys? I guess it doesn't matter how many bits there are in a key if it's eventually going to be found in "plain sight"...

  69. There's already an illegal domain! by BluhDeBluh · · Score: 1
    1. Re:There's already an illegal domain! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not anymore. Gotta give it to them, they're quick.

  70. I was told... by msauve · · Score: 2, Funny

    the super sekrit number was 0xdeadbeefcafebabe

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    1. Re:I was told... by chris_eineke · · Score: 2, Funny

      My favourite is 0xB0BAFE77 :-)

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    2. Re:I was told... by repvik · · Score: 1

      0xdeadbabe8badf00d?

    3. Re:I was told... by revengebomber · · Score: 2

      I prefer 0xB00B1E5.

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    4. Re:I was told... by sarathmenon · · Score: 1

      I love 0xB00BFACE better - its an actual control flag used by micrsoft in the mms protocol :)

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    5. Re:I was told... by hughk · · Score: 1

      In debug mode, the C library in AIX used to initialise unallocated memory space to 0xDEADBEEF (it came from Austin, TX).

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  71. T-Shirt. I'd wear one! by Marcion · · Score: 1

    Someone set one up, in a shop that ships world wide preferably.

    1. Re:T-Shirt. I'd wear one! by tanda333 · · Score: 1

      id buy one, but i think a bumper sticker would be better, and cheaper, even though it would reveal it to more peepl

    2. Re:T-Shirt. I'd wear one! by Marcion · · Score: 1

      Well I do not have a car and my butt is not that wide.

    3. Re:T-Shirt. I'd wear one! by freakmn · · Score: 1

      It seems that someone set up a CafePress Shop. I don't know who profits from it, though. It's just one of the links when searching for 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0. On a side note, almost completely unrelated to everything else, 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 is too long for a slashdot username, and cannot be registered. I was wondering if someone had done so, and found out that it's impossible.

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  72. Business plan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Step 1 - create encryption program using the number 7 as a key
    Step 2 - sue everyone who uses the number 7 as a violation of the DMCA
    Step 3 - Profit!

  73. DRM is a lock on a plywood door by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    DRM is the equivalent of having a a very complicated and intrinsic lock on your door, complete with fingerprint and retinal scan, with thousands of locks you have to unlock first.

    All the while, the door is made of plywood.

    What does it accomplish? It keeps you, the legal owner, outside, it forces you to go through incredible pain to get past your locks, while anyone else can simply use an axe and get in without any hassles. The only one for whom the door and its locks is an obstacle is the legal, rightful user Anyone else, from pirate to someone who simply doesn't care about the door, simply bursts past it and doesn't give a damn about it.

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    1. Re:DRM is a lock on a plywood door by Duncan+Blackthorne · · Score: 1

      You're giving plywood a bad rap. It's more like the sort of lock you say, except on a particle board door. Plywood at least has some structural integrity. ;-)

    2. Re:DRM is a lock on a plywood door by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, DRM has some structural integrity! You can lean (carefully!) against plywood without breaking it, too!

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    3. Re:DRM is a lock on a plywood door by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Er.. "A common reason for using plywood instead of plain wood is its resistance to cracking, shrinkage, twisting/warping, and its general high degree of strength."

      That stuff IS strong. If you live in a wood house, you're probably walking on it. It isn't used for doors for aesthetic reasons, not reasons of strength. Besides, the weakest link in a door is the jamb.

    4. Re:DRM is a lock on a plywood door by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      Actually, it's more like a balsa wood door.

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    5. Re:DRM is a lock on a plywood door by Duncan+Blackthorne · · Score: 1

      Right you are, sir; I stand in awe of your magnificence. :-)

  74. Wondering... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
    Are they able to get it out of the WayBack machine as well?

    How about if it's represented in a different number base (ala DECSS in different programming languages)?

    And all along I thought that numbers couldn't be copyrighted or patented.

    Not to mention, if it is copyrighted, and therefore should be in the public domain of protected copyrighted works (i.e. you can't sell this very short story), then how is it secret, and did the actual copyright owner send the takedown notice? So many DMCA notices seem not to comply with the act properly these days.

    Maybe they should just give it to Xenu (Scientology) to keep off the web. We know how well they've managed so far.

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    1. Re:Wondering... by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 1

      Yes. The WayBack machines complies with all (legitimate) DMCA requests immediately. Kahle doesn't want to archive anything that the legal owner doesn't want archived. He respects copyright, even though his entire operation relies on the expiration of copyright.

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  75. You can't claim Copyright on a random crypto key by burris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sorry, but you can't claim Copyright on a randomly generated cryptographic key. That is because a randomly generated key does not meet the minimum creativity requirements of Copyright law. No creative input == No Copyright. The bar is very low but a randomly generated key patently does not meet it.

  76. typo? by ROMRIX · · Score: 1

    "I'll see anyone who reports how badly my lock works".


    Should read; "I'll sue anyone who reports how badly my lock works".
  77. Can someone set it to music? by Marcion · · Score: 1

    Let's be a bit creative, the best I could do was hum it to "everybody needs somebody" by the Blues Brothers. Someone make a song, a poem, a web comic, a youtube video of it shaved into cattle.

    1. Re:Can someone set it to music? by Marcion · · Score: 1
  78. How Long ? by ganhawk · · Score: 1

    How long until the long arm of the MPAA gets to my own site (run in Ecuador) and the rest of them holding the processing key? How long will we let rampant censorship go on, in the name of economic interest?"

    With Slashdot as your friend, who needs enemies ?
    No need for MAFIAA to do the dirty work. We have slashdoted his site!

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  79. Re:Censorship? Yes. Illegal? Maybe by Mattintosh · · Score: 1

    All that is illegal in this country is the government making a law that allows for censorship.

    Like the DMCA?

    This incident alone could set a huge precedent if someone fought back against the MPAA. There are only two legal outcomes:

    - The MPAA loses, setting a precedent in future cases where they can't use the DMCA to censor encryption keys.
    or
    - The MPAA wins, they censor the number, and the DMCA is then officially a law used for censorship, making the entire thing unconstitutional and pulling the rug out from under the MPAA's case (and any future DMCA-based litigation).

    It's win-win for "we the people", just as long as nobody caves in to the MPAA.

  80. Already registered in several TLDs by ewg · · Score: 1

    Network Solutions domain name search says the key is already registered in several top-level domains.

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  81. Newsflash: Ecuador is not Bolivia. by spun · · Score: 1

    Evo has no plans, nor the power to disband the legal system. He has only nationalized natural resources, which is what the people who democratically elected him wanted, seeing as how those resources were stolen from them to begin with. Even Hugo Chavez never socialized random tiny websites.

    Nice attempted dig against socialism, though. Too bad your complete ignorance screwed it up.

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    1. Re:Newsflash: Ecuador is not Bolivia. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      1) As already noted, I meant Correa, not Morales. The Ecuadorean government is, in fact, being dismantled.

      2) Obviously, the comment was meant to be facetious. As you say, even Chavez has more important things to do.

  82. This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Doug+Merritt · · Score: 5, Funny
    This is merely a very famous (from now on, hint, hint) number theory curiosity:

    09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0
    is the hexadecimal representation (with leading zero to round off to 32 hex digits) of

    13256278887989457651018865901401704640 decimal
    which amazingly enough, is equal to the huge prime number

    13256278887989457651018865901401704613 + 3^3 (i.e. + 27)

    Astonishingly, the next prime after that is only 31 away, so our famous number can also be represented as

    13256278887989457651018865901401704671 - 31

    It is also very interesting because it is also equal to the product of the following prime numbers:

    2^6 * 5 * 19 * 12043 * 216493 * 836256503069278983442067

    Truthfully, when was the last time you saw any remotely similar number? Never, right? We better record this for mathematical posterity!!! :-)

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    1. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Did you get beat up a lot in school?

    2. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Doug+Merritt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did you get beat up a lot in school?

      You're making fun of someone for being a nerd on slashdot? You must be joking.

      Yes, I was a famous/infamous nerd in high school, and I gloried in it. I also had girlfriends in high school; did you, O anonymous coward?

      As for your literal question of getting beat up a lot, I was not just a big time nerd, I was also 6 foot 2 inches, an athlete, was a friendly extrovert, and had social skills; not all nerds fit your stereotype. Now my nerdiness supports my career as a computer engineer. How's your fast food job treating you? ;-)

      (You could have just come right out and asked what a prime number is, you know; you don't have to launch an attack each of the many times every day that you feel ignorant.)

      "He who laughs last laughs best."

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    3. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Jugalator · · Score: 1

      You apparently did though. ;-) Or do the shyness come from other reasons?

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    4. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Dephex+Twin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Did you shit your pants a lot as a child?

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    5. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

      Quite an amazing series of completely random coincidences. It's almost as if it has been set up that way on purpose, but I know that can't be true.

              Brett

    6. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So it's equal to some huge prime number plus 27? HOLY COW, NOTIFY SLASHDOT! AMAZING DISCOVERY!

      Oh wait, I forgot there were infinitely many prime numbers.

    7. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by MountainMan101 · · Score: 1

      It's not a theorem it's a definition. Also, you must be a complete moron to miss the joke. You clearly haven't studied anything to a higher level.

    8. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      It's not as famous as this number.

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    9. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Doug+Merritt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I realize you are trying to cutely defend the liberal quoting of this number by suggesting that this number is somehow mathematical fascinating, but you really haven't made your case. The number is not that fascinating.

      2^6 is not prime. The number is divisible by 2 exactly 6 times. If you somehow are suggesting that it is interesting that a number can be expressed as the product of prime numbers then you have must have not studied higher mathematics at all, for the fact that any number can be expressed as the product of primes is the fundamental theorem of arithmetic.

      If you were as smart as you think you are, you'd realize that anyone to whom it occurred to post something like this, and was able to figure out that factorization and the adjacent primes within minutes of the story being posted, well, fucking OBVIOUSLY any such person would trivially already know what you are trying to point out.

      Literally all numbers are interesting, as was first pointed out many decades ago, and by the same token, vanishingly few are actually fascinating.

      As for the sixth power of two, you're being tedious in mis-reading. My factoring program (i.e. the huge integer factorization program I designed and wrote, not merely "the one I'm using") actually printed "2 * 2 * 2 * ..." and I abbreviated by substituting the synonymous "2^6". My phrase "product of the following primes" is obviously true for "2 * 2 * 2..."; since you're such a mental giant, now figure out why my phrasing is true for the synonym "2^6".

      And even if my phrasing were strictly incorrect, it's completely fucking obvious what I meant. You're just being incredibly tedious to no purpose whatsoever.

      If you want to talk about higher math, just say so. With any luck you're not as stupid as you sound, maybe you're actually a math grad student or something, and maybe I could learn something from you. For instance, I'd like to know more about Frobenius automorphisms, in the context of number theory. Or about n-categories. Or recent developments in paraconsistent logic that might be applicable to pragmatic automatic theorem provers. Or anything, really.

      I should be so lucky. People who put other people down completely unnecessarily, and contend they know nothing, when they don't even know the person -- such tedious people inevitably know little themselves, so they try to bolster their poor self-image by attempting to make other people smaller. Pathetic. Not to mention rude.

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    10. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm not the guy you're replying to, but I had to chime in here.

      I was not just a big time nerd, I was also 6 foot 2 inches, an athlete, was a friendly extrovert, and had social skills You were not a nerd at all. You were a geek.

      One of the defining characteristcs of a nerd is that they don't have social skills.

      Watch the movie "Wargames" - in the scene when David goes to see Jim and Malvin at the computer lab: Jim is a geek, Malvin is a nerd.
    11. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      0+9+F+9+1+1+0+2+9+D+7+4+E+3+5+B+D+8+4+1+5+6+C+5+6+ 3+5+6+8+8+C+0 = CD , just thought I'd add to the conspiracy

    12. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Doug+Merritt · · Score: 1

      You were not a nerd at all. You were a geek.

      Ok. I've heard that distinction before, yes. It's just that I don't recall people in my high school doing so (that was before Wargames), and I'm not 100% sure that the public at large is consistent about which term is applied when. But I'll take your word for it.

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    13. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by JustOK · · Score: 1

      Geez, you must be new here.

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    14. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1

      I think he was joking. I'm also guessing you don't get invited to parties.

    15. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by miskatonic+alumnus · · Score: 1

      Actually, Mr. Pedantic, the Fundamental Theorem of Arithmetic states that any positive integer greater than one may be written uniquely as a product of primes in nondecreasing order. The theorem does not apply to any number. In particular, it doesn't apply to the number 1.

    16. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really. I can't believe the moron GP got modded up. Anyone who remembers prime factorization from freaking middle school math should know that 2 often gets used a few times. Jesus fucking Christ...stupid + arrogant = +5 insightful? Are you fucking kidding me?

    17. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Funny

      What if uhh... 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0, really spelled dog?

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    18. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

      Missed the point completely, did you?

            Brett

    19. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by robi2106 · · Score: 1

      cool math. thanks for the references.

      but don't feed the trolls.

    20. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 1

      "He who laughs last laughs best."

      Anyone who says something like that obviously needs a few lessons in the theory of induction.

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    21. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by loconet · · Score: 2, Funny

      I believe 2^6m is the radius of the new asshole you just made him.

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    22. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Aaron+Denney · · Score: 0

      Sure it does, the prime factorization of numbers in the following list:. Sure, it's empty, but so what?

    23. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by arevos · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      blah blah blah. How is he supposed to know that's what you meant? Because if he didn't, then he isn't very good at math, and if that's the case, why would he be criticising someone's else's calculations?

      Me, I'm stupidest one where I work. And I still don't know how 2^6 is a prime.
      unless there is a special 64 in your imagination. Okay, I'll assume this is a genuine query, rather than a further attempt to be pedantic. Here's a question: what prime numbers multiple together to form 1458?

      Answer: 2 * 3 * 3 * 3 * 3 * 3 * 3

      If I wanted to be brief, I could write 2 * 3 ^ 6. Or, more informally, I could say that the prime factors are 2 and 3 ^ 6. The latter way of saying it is technically incorrect, but anyone who is even vaguely familiar with factors and prime would instantly understand what I, or the original poster, meant to say. The fact the first AC did not implies that the AC knew very little, and if so, why was he writing such scathing criticism? Anyone with any sense knows that it's a bad idea to voice loud opinions about subjects you know little about, as there's a good chance you'll wind up looking foolish.
    24. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Aaron+England · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Do you think by modding me down the number magically becomes more fascinating? My aim wasn't to troll but to illustrate that the parent didn't really make the case that the number was interesting on a number theory level. For example, the number 1729 is interesting because it is the smallest number which expresses the sum of two positive perfect cubes in two different ways (1^3 + 12^3 and 9^3 + 10^3). Simply asserting that a number is interesting because it is just like every other integer greater than 1 (can be expressed as the product of primes) or because you get a prime number when you add or subtract some arbitrary number does not make it interesting. I may have annoyed the reader because I did not give the parent a pass on his attempt to make a "funny", but I do not apologize. Number theory is what it is.

    25. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by donut1005 · · Score: 1

      Doug,

      Why aren't you in charge of NASA?

      Sincerely,
      Space Geeks

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    26. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by RyoShin · · Score: 1

      Wow.

      You're like an inspiration to every stereotypical nerd on Slashdot. All of the brains with none of the downside. And a four-digit account!

      Can I be you when I grow up?

    27. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by profplump · · Score: 1

      2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 = 2^6.

      2^6 is not a prime number, but 2 is and any positive integer exponent of 2 is pretty clear shorthand given the context of prime factorization. At least to most people.

    28. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by wizzat · · Score: 1
      http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+prime+num ber

      any integer that cannot be divided by another number evenly except by itself and 1; two is the smallest prime number Example:"2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13"
      www.beekmanlibrary.org/Mgloss.html


      Who's the dumbass now? =) The Wikipedia article discusses why it's important that 1 is not prime.
      WizZaT?
    29. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SHUT UP, TROLL!

    30. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by swv3752 · · Score: 1

      A geek is passionate about an intellectual hobby, such as computers, or math, or even literature.

      A nerd is someone only into computers or math with no social skills.

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    31. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by eric76 · · Score: 1

      Is the number copyrighted? Or just the representation in hexadecimal?

      Are we free to express the number in the base of our choice other than base 16?

      Enquiring minds want to know.

    32. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're making fun of someone for being a nerd on slashdot? You must be joking.
      You should have said: You must be new here ;)
    33. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The GP wasn't just silly, it was delibarately so and you missed it. What do you get when you add VBWT to your uid in base 36?

    34. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I was a famous/infamous nerd in high school, and I gloried in it. I also had girlfriends in high school; did you, O anonymous coward?


      Okay, whatever. Wakeup time, buddy. Your next data janitor shift starts in 10 minutes, Chose any two of: brush your teeth, take a shower, find clean clothes. But you'll never have time for all three.
    35. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      Obviously you've never seen the proof that every number is interesting. To wit: Let us suppose that there is a subset of interesting numbers and a subset of uninteresting numbers in any given set of numbers (i.e. the set of rational numbers, the set of integers, etc.). If this were the case, the first number in the subset of uninteresting numbers would be interesting by merit of being the first number in that set. Therefore, it would then be in the subset of interesting numbers. Since the subsets of interesting and uninteresting numbers are by definition mutually exclusive, this leads to a contradiction. Therefore, by reductio ad absurdum, there is no non-empty set of uninteresting numbers.

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    36. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by myrrdyn · · Score: 1

      Once i've read of a demonstration of non-existence for non-interesting numbers.
      For what i remember:
      * a number with a "special" property is an interesting number (like 1729)
      * a number without a "special" property is a non-interesting number
      * BUT if you found a number without a "special" property, then you have found the FIRST non-interesting number
      * so, now you have a number WITH a "special" property! It is the FIRST non-interesting number!!!
      :) (Note: i'm not an english mothertongue, so please grammar nazi don't kill me!)

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    37. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Number theory is what it is.

      Really? I must have missed the thesis on interesting numbers. I'm sure that if Ramanujan were alive, he could have instantaneously said something interesting about the number. But you are not he, are you?

      Before you start making pronouncements about math, as if you actually know something about the subject, you should maybe consider checking your facts and terminology. Every number can be written as a product of primes, indeed.

    38. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by RedWizzard · · Score: 1

      1 is not a prime number.

    39. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by cyphercell · · Score: 1

      The latter way of saying it is technically incorrect, but anyone who is even vaguely familiar with factors and prime would instantly understand what I, or the original poster, meant to say.

      I think what's going on here is that *most* aren't familiar with factoring as adults. Programmers use it regularly and this is indeed a classic programming 101 type of program to write. I think it's fair to say that most people (even those that studied higher math) don't continue using it on a day to day basis. Going into prime numbers at this level is similar to expecting people to just understand that 7 mod 3 equals 1. Sure modulo is simple and it's even trivial if you understand factoring, that doesn't mean we should expect people to just *know* it. That said I think everyone has taken this WAY TOO SERIOUSLY.

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    40. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, you're right I have never seen a number like the one you describe. An even prime > 2 (2^6 * x). Amazing! A prime with integer divisors other that 1 and itself. Astounding! How was it discovered? How can I get more of them?

    41. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by frostband · · Score: 3, Funny

      Who fucks with a slashdot nerd with a 3550 index, anyway?

    42. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by jamrock · · Score: 1

      Number theory is what it is.
      Well, I guess you told us. You win, man. I'm simply flabbergasted that someone could be so blindly pedantic; you must be a riot at parties. And I can't believe that anyone thought that the phrase "It is what it is" was somehow cool, or catchy, or insightful, like......ever! I hope for your sake that you don't sprinkle your conversation with it; you're obviously intelligent, but it makes you sound like a moron.
    43. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by try_anything · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Geek and nerd used to be synonymous. The meaning of geek you describe was invented by geeks to reclaim the word geek, kind of like the queer community reclaimed the world "queer," except that the queer community didn't have to change the meaning of the word, merely the attitude behind it, since they were fine with being queer.

      Unlike the gay-bi folks who reclaimed the word "queer," the geeks who reclaimed "geek" were self-haters. They were ashamed of being socially inept, excluded, and driven to alternative worlds by their treatment in this one. Fortunately, there were positive aspects of geekiness, so they simply threw out the negative characteristics and stressed the positive ones.

      Ultimately, this will backfire. By attempting to erase their negative attributes, the geeks (nerds) will end up losing their claim on the positive attributes once associated with them. They will be defined solely by their negative characteristics. (I am serious about this. Bear with me while I explain.)

      The rest of the world bears so little ill-will toward geeks (unlike queers, whom homophobes hate passionately) that they allowed geeks to redefine the word geek. After all, geeks (sorry, nerds) weren't trying to shoulder their way into the circles they were excluded from. Society didn't want nerds to be condemned and repressed; they just didn't want the nerds asking them for dates, sitting with them at lunch, and trying to go to their parties. Most nerds are quite happy living without those things, especially now that they have a positive label for themselves. Since nerds accept the boundaries imposed on them, society feels no need to remind them of what make them different.

      (Technology nerds have been successful in business, where successful is idempotent with welcome, for over a century, maybe much longer. The rise of Bill Gates et al. was not an invasion of new territory.)

      Ironically, stripping the negative aspects out of the word "geek" made it possible for non-inept, non-excluded people to accept the geek label and still enjoy their status as full-fledged people. That means that the excluded and inept can no longer comfort themselves with their geek status, because all the cool aspects of geekdom have been invaded by good-looking and/or confident people who are able to understand the mysteries of human interaction.

      Geeks (ack! again, I mean nerds) no longer have any safe haven or any unique reason to live. They can't claim that the world would fall apart without them, except in the same sense that immigrant laborers can. (Who else is willing to pick strawberries and do the IT grunt work?) They can't even confidently stay out of the danger zone anymore. That guy with the faded Space Invaders shirt might look like a good guy for a nerd to talk to, but it's possible -- nay, likely -- that he is a normal person who will be put off by the nerd's social clumsiness, resulting in awkwardness and humiliation. Conversely, a badge of identity such as a D&D shirt that might in the past have protected a nerd from being approached by people with normal standards of social aptitude no longer conveys any protection. There is nothing for a nerd to do but attempt social intercourse and hope his interlocuters will not be horrified, or at least protect his dignity by hiding their horror.

      I predict that a new way of labeling and sorting people will arise that will help protect normal and socially defective people from uncomfortable interactions. Naturally, the normal folks want to seem (and feel) fair, compassionate, and justified, so the criteria for exclusion, while remaining the same as ever, will be described in terms of mental illness and emotional intelligence. Mental illness will be cited in order to point out that social incompetence makes people dangerous, both in trivial ways (inappropriate, annoying behavior) and serious ones (stalking, spree killing). Emotional intelligence will be invoked whenever it is necessary to place responsibility for the exclusion on

    44. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

                   . <---- the joke

                   o
      you ---->   /|\
                  / \

    45. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by xenn · · Score: 1

      Sheesh, what a nerd! I think your taking that way too seriously bro.

    46. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by uncreativ · · Score: 1

      I am honestly surprised that there are relatively few prime numbers in the factorization. I am also impressed that 836256503069278983442067, which I assume to be prime but do not know a quick way of checking, shows up on a blog posting with the same factorization when searched for on google.

      This truly is a number worth investigating and needs to be written about at length, posted everywhere, etc. Why so few prime numbers in an otherwise random string of numbers? It is actually interesting that the number is so close in size to such large, again assuming correctness of the assertion, prime numbers.

    47. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by HeadachesAbound · · Score: 1

      I found this interesting and have posted it on my blog. I hope you don't mind.

    48. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      "He who laughs last laughs best."

      Anyone who says something like that obviously needs a few lessons in the theory of induction. He who laughs first ensures everyone else laughs?
    49. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is the number copyrighted? Or just the representation in hexadecimal?

      Are we free to express the number in the base of our choice other than base 16?

      Enquiring minds want to know. You can't copyright a number, period. No matter what it's representation is (unless you gotten creative and written it in verse or song) Because a number can't be copyrighted, you can't claim to be the copyright owner of it. So any DCMA takedown notice about that number is improper, and should be ignored.
    50. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you mean "bra"?

    51. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by cortana · · Score: 1

      You clearly can copyright a number; a verse or a song *is* just a number. I guess the question is, what is the threshold for a number being copyrightable?

      Anyway, whether or not the number can be copyrighted is not an issue here, as no one is alleging that their copyrights are being infringed; the AACS authority is sending takedown notices based on the fact that the number forms part of a method that bypasses the effective copy protection mechanism that is AACS; such information is illegal to have/distribute in the United States.

    52. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      To be etymologically more complete, 'geek' used to refer to a circus performer who tore off and ate the heads of chickens (hence the title of Katherine Dunn's brilliant book "Geek Love") although it originally just meant 'fool' in Shakespeare's time.

      In contrast, 'nerd' was apparently invented by Dr. Seuss in about 1950, and applied to a fuzzy animal (probably wearing a hat.)

      So while it's possible that there have been brief moments where they've been near-synonymous, one has a five-hundred-year history that's pretty varied, while the other is brand-new and probably just cozied up with its much older cousin.

      --
      Nostalgia's not what it used to be.
    53. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure modulo is simple and it's even trivial if you understand factoring, that doesn't mean we should expect people to just *know* it.
      No, but it seems reasonable to expect people to not try to correct others about things they themselves don't know.
    54. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by kalirion · · Score: 1

      Have so many people forgotten that we've had illegal prime numbers for years now?

    55. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by redmond_herring · · Score: 1

      BAM!

      --
      Stephen Colbert on race: "While skin and race are often synonymous, skin cleansing is good, race cleansing is bad."
    56. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by miskatonic+alumnus · · Score: 1

      You are wrong for at least two reasons:

      1) The number 1 is excluded explicitly in the hypothesis of the theorem.

      2) In taking the product of elements of a group G indexed by a set I, I may be empty, resulting in the empty product, which evaluates to the identity of the group. You confuse I with G.

    57. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by NotmyNick · · Score: 1

      I find your logic fascinatingly recursive.

      --
      Notmysig
    58. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Boronx · · Score: 1

      The Adequacy troll, a venerable classic. Looks like you haven't yet the knack of it.

    59. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Doug+Merritt · · Score: 1

      I find your logic fascinatingly recursive.

      I presume you're talking about my comment where I said:

      Literally all numbers are interesting, as was first pointed out many decades ago, and by the same token, vanishingly few are actually fascinating.

      ...and you are being sardonic. But I'm talking about something well-known in the mathematical community (as was clearly implied by my saying "as was first pointed out many decades ago"), not some wild idiosyncratic self-contradictory foolish belief.

      Someone else already explained about this, somewhere in this thread, but I guess you missed that comment -- so I will repeat the explanation (which, I stress, is quite old, and not original to me).

      Hypothesis: not all integers are interesting.

      Corollary: there is a smallest uninteresting integer; call it "a".

      Contradiction: the first uninteresting integer, "a", is interesting because it is unique amongst all integers as being the smallest with that property.

      That reduction ad absurdum means that there can be no smallest uninteresting integer, and therefore, there are no uninteresting integers at all.

      The above argument originated with, and is widely accepted within, the mathematical community. If you find it unconvincing, go publish a pure math paper with your counter-argument.

      Admittedly, I did add something to that well-known tired old thought; I said

      and by the same token, vanishingly few are actually fascinating

      ...which is not, as far as I know, also an old tired topic, nor is it as easily defensible as the prior claim, but informally I think it's a reasonable thing to say, whether true (or even whether well-posed) or not.

      And now here I have probably wasted my time typing this, because you no doubt don't particularly care about math, you were just being sardonic. Oh well.

      --
      Professional Wild-Eyed Visionary
    60. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by try_anything · · Score: 1
      You piqued my curiousity, so I googled. (At first I thought it was something to do with karma-whoring by appealing to Slashdotters' sense of inadequacy, which at least would have had an element of truth, since I suspected the idea would resonate with my fellow nerds.) Here's part of the characterization I found for the Adequacy Troll:

      * A tone of calmness and rationalism is maintained. This creates an enhanced contrast between the AST itself and the responses, which are likely to be emotional and less thoroughly considered.
      * The initial starting position for argument is unassailably sensible.
      * Each step of the argument is completely reasonable.
      * Substantial, even excessive, documentation is provided.
      * The final conclusion is outrageous and completely unacceptable to the target victim group.

      There's nothing wrong with the first one. The second and third don't apply, since I didn't make an argument -- the bulk of my post was a prediction, with little justification given. I provided no documentation at all. The final conclusion could be seen as outrageous and unacceptable, but I expected the post to be mostly well received, and as you can see, it was. Trolling means deliberately provoking unedifying responses, and I was actually trying to provoke interesting ones. (I don't think it's a good idea to define trolling so broadly, since it tends to include satire -- any refutation of effective satire is dull and pointless, and when posting satire in most cases you know that if you hit the mark there will be someone stupid enough to attempt a refutation. That's another conversation, though. I didn't intend my post to be satire.)

      I am very disappointed with the lack of responses, though. The idea has been bouncing around in my head since Virginia Tech, and I wanted to get some feedback. I'm shocked at how it was modded so high up without anybody disagreeing, posting their own theories, or agreeing and providing some support for the prediction. I really don't know whether to take the idea seriously myself, and the (lack of) response here didn't help :-/ If your post wasn't the closest thing to a real response, I probably wouldn't have bothered replying.

      Just to prove I actually gave some thought to it, I'm very interested in the parallel between nerds' role in technology and the role of a parellel class of people in religion. Many influential religious mystics and leaders seem to have had epilepsy, schizophrenia, or other mental illnesses. Mild forms of those illnesses may have provided a talent for religious intuition and imagination, just like mild forms of autism seem to provide a capacity for certain kinds of technical work. In both cases, a small number of people have been able to function at a high level despite rather severe "symptoms" and put their "symptoms" to extraordinary use. Many others have done the same thing on a smaller scale. Now, religion no longer provides a way to turn those "symptoms" into socially valued work.

      Mental illness seems to play a similar role in art, but art has also declined, at least as a way for ordinary people to be valued in society. Except for commercial art, our art (music, movies, poetry, fiction) is produced by a tiny subset of the population, so artistic creation has essentially disappeared as a realistic role for people to play. The production and distribution of music, movies, clothing, and household decorations is so efficient that there are only places for a very small number of valued artists, compared to the past.

      The decline of religion and art has turned what might previously have been called "mystical tendencies" or "artistic sensibilities" into a fairly useless talent, unless a person is one of the elite few who produces creative artistic works. Epilepsy, schizophrenia, and other disorders that might previously have carried some religious or artistic ability as compensation are now simply handicaps.

      This is what originally inspired me to won

    61. Re:This is (now) a famous number-theory integer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's an interesting story, but consider this: Without those 'geek' types, we'd probably still all be sitting around gnawing on raw bones in caves.

      They allow the rest of the world to go about their mutant monkey-fish offspring business and mutant monkey-fish offspring interests, whiles the geeks steadily bring us into the future. All hail your new geek overlords!

      Now if we could only ditch those cavemen gorilla's who currently are lording it up over the world.

  83. ask and ye shall receive.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  84. Watched it Die on Digg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was reading the attached article on Digg, when I went to read the comments they were gone and then the link was gone from Digg. That is pathetic and disgusting. They made a flawed system and that flaw was exposed. The person that did it, did not even need to use any cracking tools. The number was in hex in memory. You cannot restict a number, God made them, not the MPAA. Do not mess with GOD!!!

  85. Yay! by heinousjay · · Score: 1

    Pirate party! Free entertainment until the entertainment industries collapse! Yay!

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    Slashdot - where whining about luck is the new way to make the world you want.
  86. 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0.COM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Domain Name: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0.COM
          Registrar: ENOM, INC.
          Whois Server: whois.enom.com
          Referral URL: http://www.enom.com/
          Name Server: NS515.HOSTGATOR.COM
          Name Server: NS516.HOSTGATOR.COM
          Status: clientTransferProhibited
          Updated Date: 30-apr-2007
          Creation Date: 29-apr-2007
          Expiration Date: 29-apr-2008

    >>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 01 May 2007 20:24:25 UTC

    This Account Has Been Suspended
    Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.

  87. Want it to live forever? by Duncan+Blackthorne · · Score: 1

    All someone has to do is post that string anonymously on some USENET news groups and there will NEVER be a way to completely erradicate it from the 'net.

  88. Re:Check my signature - Prior Art by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1
    Look at old posts. I've been using that exact sequence of hex digits as my signature on posts since the beginning.

    Then you're got prior art. I expect to be reading news of your lawsuit against the MPAA any moment now.

    --
    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  89. No one would be so rude... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

    ... as to put that number in a /. comment. After all, we don't want to get /. in trouble do we?

    --
    You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
    1. Re:No one would be so rude... by Samalie · · Score: 1

      I'll join the revolution to proudly display the number everywhere

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      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    2. Re:No one would be so rude... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      How much trouble could /. get into? This is merely a multi-billion dollar industry. It's not someone powerful, like say, the Cult of Scientology.

  90. I'M SURROUNDED BY ASSHOLES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


     

  91. Usenet? by complexmath · · Score: 1

    With the decentralized nature of usenet, I'd think it would be the ideal forum for posting such things. Even if most people today have never heard of it, for some unfathomable reason.

  92. Consumer Pays For DRM R&D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish the press would do some research and publish the cost of DRM R&D.

    Clearly, DRM schemes get broken almost as fast as they are created. So its back to R&D to create the next scheme. Someone is paying for all this ineffective R&D, and ultimately its the consumer in the form of higher prices for content.

    Seriously! DRM *will* eventually die, if only because consumers won't pay $100's for media where almost all of this cost is to recoup the cost of (failed) DRM R&D.

    Idiots at MPAA, RIAA, etc really need to be cluestick decelerators.

  93. As a program by Alioth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A novel way of saying it.


                    add hl,bc
                    ld sp,hl
                    ld de,09d02h
                    ld (hl),h
                    ex (sp),hl
                    ld e,e
                    ret c
                    ld b,c
                    ld d,(hl)
                    push bc
                    ld h,e
                    ld d,(hl)
                    adc a,b
                    ret nz

    1. Re:As a program by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      I had thought I had forgotten Assembly, but alas, it all came rushing back in one quick moment.

      I hate you!

      (Not really, but thanks for the memories)

      --
      Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
    2. Re:As a program by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Old freaking school. I gotta wonder what it'd look like disassembled as though it was 6502 opcodes...

    3. Re:As a program by tietokone-olmi · · Score: 1

      Here's the 6502 version, using a nonstandard syntax for undocumented instructions, and including an extraneous null byte at the end to avoid partial instructions...

      ORA #$F9
      ORA ($02),Y
      STA $E374,X
      LSR-EOR $41D8,Y    ; undocumented
      LSR $C5,X
      ROR-ADC ($56,X)    ; undocumented
      DEY
      CPY #$00

      I wonder what this code does!

    4. Re:As a program by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Here it is interpreted as 65816 machine code (the main processor used in Super NES and the Apple IIgs). It alomost works as 6502, except the TCD which becomes an illegal opcode as the 6502 lacks the D-page register.

      ORA #$F9
      ORA ($02),Y
      STA $E374,X
      TCD
      CLD
      EOR ($56,X)
      CMP $63
      LSR $88,X

      Also, interpreted as SPC-700 machine code (sound processor used in Super NES, which I've done a lot of work with):

      OR $11, $F9
      SET1 $9D.0
      CMP A, $E3+X
      LSR $D8+X
      TCALL 4
      EOR A, !$63C5+Y
      EOR A, !$C088+Y

      Interpreted as Motorola 68K machine code (I even re-assembled it to verify):

      BSET D4,$11029D74
      ROL.W #$1,D3
      ADD.W D1,D4
      SNE D5
      BLS.S *+$0058
      DIVU.W D0,D4

      Unfortunately it doesn't work as PowerPC machine code. That exhausts my assembly skills (parent already covered the Z80 version).

    5. Re:As a program by bananaendian · · Score: 1

      now, if only someone would place that as an example of Assembly code on Wikipedia (who are panicing to censor the whole thing)

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  94. Domains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There even are webdomains registered:

    09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.info
    09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.org
    09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.biz
    09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.net
    09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.com

    1. Re:Domains by quiahuitl · · Score: 1

      These are free now ;p 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.name 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.fr 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.be

  95. they already changed it :( by .Chndru · · Score: 1
    1. Re:they already changed it :( by Nasarius · · Score: 1

      Obviously. But the key still works for all media previously released. Once AACS-protected media has widespread acceptance, 99% of it will be trivially cracked by any tool that contains a bunch of revoked keys. Only the newest 1% will have keys that aren't yet known.

      --
      LOAD "SIG",8,1
  96. all hail the leetkey firefox addon: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thanks to the fun text manipulation with the leetkey addon for firefox, here are some artistic interpretations:

    ROT-13: 09 S9 11 02 9Q 74 R3 5O Q8 41 56 P5 63 56 88 P0

    Base64: MDkgRjkgMTEgMDIgOUQgNzQgRTMgNUIgRDggNDEgNTYgQzUgNj MgNTYgODggQzA=

    8bit DES (key: slashdot) dV1kpxj4ME2tew0DolvBfhSQi9Qg28kYiP7QiT1EcG/BdZNgvg 2m2pRFbXrR7D45

    The lameness filter prevents the icing on the cake of a morse code version :(

  97. Better in base 10: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,6 40

    Here it is in base 10 and commas, as the average Joe expects it.

    I think hex confuses the issue slightly for non-technical folks, who think it's some kind of a legitimate, proprietary code rather than a plain old number used as a stupid, proprietary code. Anybody can see the idiocy of saying that the number 42 or 13256 or 13256278887989457651018865901401704640 may not be displayed on a web page.

  98. The takedown notices may well be wrong by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" is a key. It's a slight stretch to suggest that it's a device used for the decryption of an HD-DVD. Certainly it's a component, but so is a computer and the decryption algorithm. And like this number, they all have a lot of potential other uses. The takedown notices merely state that the MPAA believes that this infringes their copyright.

    Anyone who wants to send a counter notice can have their number restored to the web. The MPAA would then have to sue them to remove it entirely. This would be a difficult, expensive and really quite difficult legal case that would get them nothing. They'd have to sue everybody. I doubt that the court would award them damages.

    So anyone who has their number removed should file a counter notice. See the MPAA squirm.

  99. Art by carabela · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, hex is way more art than this: http://www.makezine.com/blog/MAKE_599.jpg

    --

    The more you know, the less you need. [Admin added: from me.]
  100. Alternative bases, anyone? by J'raxis · · Score: 1

    Well, if they censor that, will they go after CfkRAp1041vYQVbFY1aIwA or BH4RCAU5OTRVXWCBK3CWGVUIYA next?

  101. Re:You can't claim Copyright on a random crypto ke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Post 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 somewhere
    2. Submit DMCA counter claim when harassed by MPAA
    3. ???
    4. Profit!

  102. Repeating the number is fine...but not the issue by uab21 · · Score: 1

    That hex sequence has *got* to be somewhere in the hundreds of gigabytes of binary files on my workstation (none of which have anything to do with media of any kind, scientific calculations generate a *lot* of binary data). How can so short a sequence be suject to copyright? That is the "C" in DMCA, no? How can that sequence, which occurs many completely unrelated places be enforcable?

  103. a song? by DRAGONWEEZEL · · Score: 1
    Ala an old fave....

    dmca steps on me
        i don't like the dmca
        it makes this song illegal
        ooh woe dmca
        it steps on me
        it makes this song illegal
        makes this song illegal yeah

    retrieve byte zero of KEY
    XOR it with byte 84 of SEC
    and treat the result as an integer
    OR it with the hexidecimal constant 0x100
    and store the result in t1



    I once listened to the whole thing. I found it interestingly artistic.
    --
    How much is your data worth? Back it up now.
  104. Have some haiku by Virak · · Score: 1

    oh nine eff nine one
    one oh two nine dee seven
    four ee three five bee

    dee eight four one five
    six see five six three five six
    eight eight see zero

  105. How can I save that information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's been my experience that, when I try to save PHPs, they don't save the content on my computer, just links. When I try to open the file later, the content isn't there.

    1. Re:How can I save that information by fimbulvetr · · Score: 1

      You do realize that by the time it reaches your browser, php has nothing to do with it, right?

      It might just be the funky url. Try using "save as", or wget "http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121866&pa ge=6"

    2. Re:How can I save that information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, File -> Save Page As...
      You might also just print the page.

      But either way, it has nothing to do with whether the URL ends in "php", "html", "asp" or whatever.

  106. ObTag:09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ObTag: 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0

  107. Add Fark to the fearful by Samalie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Posted a link to this article on Fark - the discussion thread was killed instantly.

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    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    1. Re:Add Fark to the fearful by mmontour · · Score: 1

      It's not just links that are killed; Fark won't even let you put "the numbers" into a field in your user profile.

    2. Re:Add Fark to the fearful by webbsk · · Score: 1

      I think even worse is the web master Drew's official statement and the community responses: http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink =2776805/ Its really interesting to compare the level of technical saavy over there with here or even Digg. As in, they're a bunch of cowards who don't really understand what's going on. Man, I love me some Slashdot! It feels like home! :)

  108. Nothing to see here by the.Ceph · · Score: 1

    It's not from comments being censored it's from trying to view comments before any have been posted.

    1. Re:Nothing to see here by freakmn · · Score: 1

      Rereading what I wrote, it seems that I didn't know that. My post was intended to be at least somewhat humorous, though it seems to have been modded informative. It seems that Slashdot doesn't censor comments, so it wouldn't be from censors, either. Either way, to explain a joke negates its humor. Oh Well..

      --
      warning: This post is likely to contain gobs of dripping sarcasm. Consume at your own risk.
  109. Translate this! by night_flyer · · Score: 1

    09 SAY9 11 02 9QAY 74 RAY3 5Oway QAY8 41 56 PAY5 63 56 88 PAY0

    --


    Thanks to file sharing, I purchase more CDs
    Thanks to the RIAA, I buy them used...
  110. 2 digits by iiii · · Score: 1

    The answer is 2. The number 1 may not be copyrightable (yet) but Starbucks has a trademark on 20.

    --
    Light cup, beer drink, thin so chain, neck turtle fat, man I won't say it again
    1. Re:2 digits by kisielk · · Score: 1

      Except that copyright != trademark. I'm still amazed so many people fail to see the difference.

  111. Isn't it incredible how fast good news spreads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sequence is already available on 1010 web pages according to Google.

  112. Time for the good old LeetKey instrument by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    ROT13 09 S9 11 02 9Q 74 R3 5O Q8 41 56 P5 63 56 88 P0

    Base64 MDkgRjkgMTEgMDIgOUQgNzQgRTMgNUIgRDggNDEgNTYgQzUgNj MgNTYgODggQzA=

    HEX 30 39 20 46 39 20 31 31 20 30 32 20 39 44 20 37 34 20 45 33 20 35 42 20 44 38 20 34 31 20 35 36 20 43 35 20 36 33 20 35 36 20 38 38 20 43 30

    00110000 00111001 00100000 01000110 00111001 00100000 00110001 00110001 00100000 00110000 00110010 00100000 00111001 01000100 00100000 00110111 00110100 00100000 01000101 00110011 00100000 00110101 01000010 00100000 01000100 00111000 00100000 00110100 00110001 00100000 00110101 00110110 00100000 01000011 00110101 00100000 00110110 00110011 00100000 00110101 00110110 00100000 00111000 00111000 00100000 01000011 00110000

    0C 88 65 36 5C 65 14 8D B5 3E 47 D9 20 11 9F 90

    DES encrypted, password is HD-DVD PRrsNbKDpH229WUs9LjVXYVNnCremuKC0q83L/h6igbcQQWxH4 LxyM07lg/pObJw

    I always liked Morse code, but stupid /. 'junk filters' don't let it through.

  113. 49 40 87 2d 13 41 cc 67 bc 6e 72 2c 5c f4 fb 14 by DamonHD · · Score: 1
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  114. I could be wrong by Vexor · · Score: 1

    Hasn't a precedent been set for copyrighting numbers. If I recall didn't Michael Jordan try to buy/copyright the number 23? Imagine the royalties you could reap from textbook publishers =)

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  115. YOU'RE IN A HALL OF MIRRORS, ASSHOLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This space intentionally left blank. Asshole.

  116. What we can look forward to by endrek · · Score: 1

    You know what the next step is? Some young enterprising fellow will develop a truly shit encryption/content protection scheme based on the ASCII code for 'the' (74 68 65) and then sue anyone under the DMCA who uses the word 'the'. They are illegally distributing his encryption key, merely encoded/interpreted in a different format, ASCII.

  117. Another link on digg by Yetihehe · · Score: 1

    Here's another link for this number, but disguised. I'm curious how long it will stay :)
    http://digg.com/health/Train_your_memory

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  118. Oh no!! NOT F606EEFD628B1CA427BEA93A9CA9773F by burnttoy · · Score: 1

    or something...

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  119. Deface aacsla.com! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What'd be really hilarious would be a defacement of http://www.aacsla.com/ with the processing key.

  120. DMCA takedown notice is incorrect by HaeMaker · · Score: 1

    As I understand it, and IANAL, you can not copyright functional speech. This key is not an artistic or scientific expression, it is purely functional.

    I recommend seeking legal council, sending DMCA counter notices and seeing if they sue. If the MPAA sends a second takedown notice, they are violating the law.

  121. Get the number in Bumper Sticker Form by Rhyss · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Get the number in Bumper Sticker Form by fiendy · · Score: 1

      Someone should slap a few of those on the RIAA headquarters. I could appreciate that.

  122. Asshatery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Digg is at war with is users right now. Much the same way the MAFIAA is at war with their customers.
    Even my comments critical of Digg are being deleted and they do not contain the illegal numbers.

    I expect my account to be deleted next.

  123. It's all Bill's Fault by Marcion · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These people seem to crack it using Windows based soft-players using the X-Box USB attachment (USB connection is the unencrypted weak link). Perhaps the MPAA should leave the bloggers alone and look at what Microsoft is doing.

    Microsoft is a cancer that attaches itself in an security sense to everything it touches...

    1. Re:It's all Bill's Fault by HolyCause · · Score: 1

      Wow, talk about ironic. Vista is locked down with DRM, yet the magic code to cracking the DRM on HD-DVDs is discovered using Microsoft products like the Xbox...

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    2. Re:It's all Bill's Fault by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      All Microsoft provides is an inexpensive, subsidized HD-DVD player which interfaces with your computer using the USB protocol. It's no different than hooking up a Toshiba HD-DVD player (it might even be a Toshiba HD-DVD player).

      If there were a cheaper HD-DVD player for the PC available you would be hearing about Walmart's HD-DVD player being the culprit.

      But by all means huge props in being able to make ANY topic an attack on Microsoft. In other news, Virginia Tech Killer uses Windows, FBI investigates implications.

    3. Re:It's all Bill's Fault by Marcion · · Score: 1

      >But by all means huge props in being able to make ANY topic an attack on Microsoft.

      Cheers, it was my feeble attempt at humour ...

    4. Re:It's all Bill's Fault by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      One of the unfortunate side effects of the Slashdot moderation system. You can't use your karma to adjust for "intent". It was anti-microsoft so it got the obligatory +5 insightful. Next time add a smiley. ;)

    5. Re:It's all Bill's Fault by dave420 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Grow up! Seriously.

    6. Re:It's all Bill's Fault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, why do I never have modpoints when I see somebody make a point like that but whenever I do, all that hits the mainpage are "Linux ported to portable toilet" storys?

  124. The T-Shirt by AoT · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:The T-Shirt by Esteanil · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can't say I envy the poor newborn kid whose Slashdot-reading father is just now getting inspired as to what the baby's name should be.

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    2. Re:The T-Shirt by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 3, Funny

      What I find great is Slashdot have the story tagged with the code, and Digg are getting buried because they pulled stuff about the code.

      Always knew Slashdot was the better site.

    3. Re:The T-Shirt by Kelbear · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Much better. I popped on to Digg to see the site destroyed by the stupid code. No articles, just the stupid code. And MAYBE 1 in every 5 actually say what the code is and what's going on. You have to piece it together from the headlines flashing by through the refreshes.

      Here on Slashdot, we've got one story. And it's got information.

    4. Re:The T-Shirt by Abeydoun · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Apparently, according to the discoverer, this key also works on bluray. Almost all of the articles and posts I see forget to mention (or don't realize) that this key also works on bluray media. Either way, after reading through the forums on doom9, it seems like it was one hell of a fun endeavor. Hope the MPAA hasnt gotten their hands on the fellow. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=121866&pag e=9

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    5. Re:The T-Shirt by jamshid · · Score: 5, Funny

      It should say "Registered Hex Offender".

    6. Re:The T-Shirt by dintech · · Score: 1

      It should say "Registered Hex Offender".

      Woo! I hope the government maintains a list so we know when an offending neighbour moves in. Then I can go round and borrow his hd-dvd's! :)

    7. Re:The T-Shirt by jridley · · Score: 1

      I think it would be fun to put this number on the back of a DeCSS shirt, so you'd be illegal coming and going.

  125. Mnemonics, anyone? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

    Yeah I was wondering if someone creative out there would think of some sort of mnemonic, song, epic poem, etc. that would allow people to easily memorize it. I think that would really be the best method ... unless they decide to go at your brain with a soldering iron through your ear. I wouldn't put it completely past them.

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  126. Poetry by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny
    a poem by f f cummings

    Oh nine,
    Frank nine,
    One one,
    Oh Two.

    Nine dog seven four Edward three,
    Five big dogs ate fourty-one.
    Fifty six, Charlie five,
    Six three.
    Fifty six and a pair of eights.

    Charlie naught.

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  127. image of a number by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/213/480421012_f6314 effbe_o.gif

    wish it could have been recursive; but flicker just isn't that fast... ;)

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  128. Another "feature" made redundant in Vista by DigitAl56K · · Score: 1

    What's the value of the protected media path in Vista now?

  129. Hardcopy by HeadachesAbound · · Score: 1

    So what happens if someone buys an add on a billboard and all it has is this seemingly random string? What happens when bumper stickers appear with this seemingly random string? T-Shirts? Spam? What happens when the whole world knows your secret and the DMCA can't protect you? What happens when the few tell the many?

    Information has always been, will always want to be, and will always be free.

  130. How about as a gif by renenoel · · Score: 1

    ...just take the RGB values for each part and drop the last two 00s. http://www.64k.ca/DMCA.gif or if PNG's your thing: http://www.64k.ca/DMCA.png

  131. Fortune Cookie by Froboz23 · · Score: 1

    Wow. That's really weird. I got a fortune cookie today, and the note inside said:

    Wise is the man who backs up his media. Your lucky lottery numbers are: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

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  132. Victory! by Tuoqui · · Score: 1

    We will be triumphant over any encryption DRM crap. Even if it takes beowulf cluster of machines working on cracking things 24/7. PS: Saving this number in my sig 4tw!

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  133. This is a non-story! by mr_matticus · · Score: 1

    Let's say you use a password to store your banking information, and that password is "dumbass5." Now a blog posts that your password to your banking account is "dumbass5." Would you call it censorship when you retained an attorney to shut down that blog/forum/site? More specifically, would you call it censorship that infringed on your rights?

    This isn't a story about censorship. It's a story about data integrity. Whether you like it or not, DRM and encryption keys are perfectly legal means of protecting content produced by major studios. Whether it should be or should not be, they have every right to exercise that control to protect their business interests. A DMCA takedown notice DOES NOT MEAN that the number here is purported to by copyrighted. It means that copyrighted content, which is protected by an encryption key, has been compromised. The DMCA takedown is to protect their copyrighted content, not this sequence of numbers (which is probably an encryption key used dozens of times over in the world at large).

    1. Re:This is a non-story! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that it's more like the bank keeping your passcode for your own account secret from you. Nice trying to confuse the issue there, friend.

      You don't work for the MPAA, do you?

    2. Re:This is a non-story! by YodaYid · · Score: 1

      I agree - I wouldn't say this is an intellectual property issue at all. As scummy as DRM and the MPAA are, it's reasonable to expect that they wouldn't want a password that they're trying to keep secret exposed.

      That said, I think the issue is that they're using the DMCA to take down the number.

    3. Re:This is a non-story! by mr_matticus · · Score: 1

      It's not your content and it's not your copyright. Until the system changes to reflect otherwise, you're the one confusing the issue. You don't like DRM or the fact that you don't own the content on the discs. I'd be inclined to agree with you. However, that does not make it censorship that is new or distasteful. You're already prohibited from disclosing this kind of information by law--you weren't allowed to shout passwords and encryption keys from rooftops before. You certainly wouldn't want someone to do it to you, and you'd be fully supportive of any action to stop that "invasion of privacy."

      Well, here's the kicker. Disclosing this information is an invasion of THEIR privacy on content that THEY own the copyright to. You're the owner of a shiny, licensed copy. That doesn't give you any right to pass on information that compromises their security decisions that are sanctioned both by statutory law and by case law.

    4. Re:This is a non-story! by mr_matticus · · Score: 1

      Well, their use of the DMCA is appropriate in a multi-faceted approach. The DMCA provides for the legal protection of encrypted electronic content--and provides the criminal penalties for illegal violation of those protections. Sharing the key most certainly falls under the purview of the DMCA. A DMCA takedown notice can be used either against illegally-distributed content or for any violation of the statutes of the DMCA (that is, Title 17 of the USC).

    5. Re:This is a non-story! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let me introduce you to an amazing concept:

      FAIR USE.

      Now shush until you know what the hell you're talking about.

    6. Re:This is a non-story! by mr_matticus · · Score: 1

      Let me introduce you to an amazing fact: "fair use" is not limitless and it's not relevant to encryption in the corpus of case law. You can still exercise fair use with encryption in place. Also note that one of the biggest limits to fair use is that use which has a commercial impact on the market for the product. Broken encryption and unbounded use most certainly impacts the market, and there is no working definition of "fair use" that excuses the breaking of legally sanctioned encryption. Encryption schemas used by DVDs, HD-DVDs, and the like do not lock users out of any content to which they are legally entitled.

      I know more about this than you do, AC.

    7. Re:This is a non-story! by PhxBlue · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let's say you use a password to store your banking information, and that password is "dumbass5." Now a blog posts that your password to your banking account is "dumbass5." Would you call it censorship when you retained an attorney to shut down that blog/forum/site? More specifically, would you call it censorship that infringed on your rights?

      Bullshit. That's my answer to your question ... because we're talking as much about getting HD-DVDs to play on Linux boxes as we are about copying them. And, by the way, copyright law and Supreme Court precedent still give you the right to make backup copies of your media.

      A better analogy is this: You've locked everyone out of their bank accounts, and they need a password only you can supply them with in order to get to their money. Then someone finds out the password is "dumbass5" and posts it. How are you going to look when you're intimidating and/or SLAPPing people into sharing something that you shouldn't be holding over their heads in the first place?

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    8. Re:This is a non-story! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you do work for the MPAA, or you're a lawyer that makes money off of copyright law, which makes your baseless, stupid, ignorant, and downright retarded arguments worthless.

      Please, just go away and allow freedom and fair use to win the day over your corporate greed and stupidity. We all would thank you if you did.

    9. Re:This is a non-story! by YodaYid · · Score: 1

      He's simply explaining what the law actually is. It has nothing to do with what he actually believes. If you don't like the law, write your congressperson. Shooting the messenger makes you sound like a blithering idiot.

    10. Re:This is a non-story! by mr_matticus · · Score: 1

      That's a load of crap. Copying does NOT require breaking encryption, nor does Linux playback. There's no reason why a licensed software player can't be produced. That proprietary retail content is not compatible with open source is not a relevant legal question and it's not the producer's responsibility. Backup copies are just that--identical copies.

      It's not your content, plain and simple. It's not your own account you're locked out of.

    11. Re:This is a non-story! by sleepykit · · Score: 1

      If someone were to discover my bank password, to use your analogy, and shout it out to the world, logically I would change my password and then take steps to make sure it was better protected. Since it is my fault that someone else known my password, then blaming the people who know it for knowing it seems redundant. A little too late, since they *know* it and I can never erase it from their heads.

      In that same vein, the idea that when I buy a DVD, especially one of high quality, I am buying not only the right to have a disk in my hands but the right to watch it. Why else buy the movie? If, for whatever reason, this is impossible (don't have the right OS, Player, Monitor, etc), I have now wasted money and probably cannot get it back. In this case, fair use should be on my side. So long as I do not go out and resell it without proper authority, I should be allowed to watch what I bought, correct? I'm not a thief or a file sharer, and if I want something, I go through legal means to do it, so why should I or anyone else be punished for being well within the law?

      So, in the end, what the AACS did in sending the cease and desist requests was sort of like saying "forget this ever happened, there is no magic number". Not only did that go against people's rights to say what they wish, but more importantly, it showed that the company cared more about bullying the online community than they did about fixing the problem. Not only did they outright disrespect everyone who was not guilty of breaking their content protection but also asked and succeeded indirectly in censoring our voices.

      *shrug* could just be me

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    12. Re:This is a non-story! by J'raxis · · Score: 1

      Let's say you use a password to store your banking information, and that password is "dumbass5." Now a blog posts that your password to your banking account is "dumbass5." Would you call it censorship when you retained an attorney to shut down that blog/forum/site? More specifically, would you call it censorship that infringed on your rights?

      No, I'd change my password.

      This is a bad analogy for two reasons: First, this key can't actually be changed easily, unlike a password. Secondly, the incident with this key is more akin to me embedding my password in a million different objects, distributing these objects to millions of unknown people, at which point I've lost all physical control of the objects, and then telling each of these people, "If you peek and get password, I'm going to be very, very angry." Of course, such a course of action would be Really Stupid(TM), so I would never do such a thing.

    13. Re:This is a non-story! by PhxBlue · · Score: 1

      Copying does NOT require breaking encryption, nor does Linux playback.

      If that were really true, why would you need software like BackupHDDVD to begin with? Why did HDTV owners get screwed over without benefit of lube in early 2006 because their sets didn't have decryption for HD-DVDs?

      It's not your own account you're locked out of.

      Mr. Fair Use disagrees with you. See, once I've bought that content, Fair Use grants me the right to make a backup copy of it and to play it on whatever device I want. AACS denies me those rights. I'm no lawyer, but I would think that makes AACS a violation of copyright law in and of itself.

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    14. Re:This is a non-story! by mr_matticus · · Score: 1

      If that were really true, why would you need software like BackupHDDVD to begin with? You don't. Copying a disc to an image requires no breaking of encryption. A simple ISO can be played directly by many software video players.

      Mr. Fair Use disagrees with you. See, once I've bought that content...I'm no lawyer Mr. Copyright disagrees with you. You haven't bought any content. Copyright holder still owns the content and of course the copyright to it. You own the copy and become part of a licensee class on terms negotiated by statute. Mr. Fair Use also doesn't show up in this play, because encryption isn't a fair use issue. Every manufacturer of HD-DVD discs and players is licensed to work with the format (including its AACS components), and fair use guarantees your right to use the discs on all of those platforms. It does not guarantee your right to use the content on unlicensed platforms. There is no interpretation of copyright which construes your right to bypass security encryption, and it has been in use for over 15 years with many attempts and opportunities for case law to support it. Perhaps you should leave it to those with legal training.
    15. Re:This is a non-story! by just_another_sean · · Score: 1

      Let's say you use a password to store your banking information, and that password is "dumbass5." Now a blog posts that your password to your banking account is "dumbass5." Would you call it censorship when you retained an attorney to shut down that blog/forum/site? More specifically, would you call it censorship that infringed on your rights? I would be more likely to simply change my password and slap myself silly for picking such a stupid one. And before we use your analogy any further I need answers; how did this blog get my password? Did I somehow give it to them but with a note that says "Hey, here's the password but don't use it unless I'm around"? Because that is essentially what the MPAA does, give you the key and then tell you it can only be used in the way they want. Which is not how copyright or DMCA is supposed to work. Fair use still counts for something (for now anyway).

      But that's the problem with analogies. Yours sucks, so does mine. I like analogies, especially car analogies, but there is almost always a way to prove an analogy flawed and I find that, in general, they are mostly used to prop up one side of an argument that is pretty weak.

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    16. Re:This is a non-story! by PhxBlue · · Score: 1

      Copying a disc to an image requires no breaking of encryption.

      Copying a disc to an image isn't a backup. Copying a disc to a disc is a backup.

      It does not guarantee your right to use the content on unlicensed platforms.

      Do you really think Joe Consumer gives a shit about whether a platform is licensed or unlicensed? He wants it to work. By your logic, someone who downloads an e-book might be able to print it to an HP printer but not an Epson, because one's "licensed" and the other isn't.

      Perhaps you should leave it to those with legal training.

      And maybe law should be straightforward enough that one doesn't need legal training. Absurdly complex laws are one more way the haves keep the have-nots out of the halls of government.

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    17. Re:This is a non-story! by mr_matticus · · Score: 1

      Copying a disc to an image isn't a backup. Copying a disc to a disc is a backup. The image can reproduce exact copies of the disc. Or are you unfamiliar with what an "image" is? Whether you use that image to duplicate the disc or to store it on your hard drive is unimportant. Disc-to-disc copying can be done without breaking encryption.

      Do you really think Joe Consumer gives a shit about whether a platform is licensed or unlicensed? He wants it to work. 1) The law doesn't give a shit what Joe Consumer gives a shit about 2) Joe Consumer won't have any trouble playing his discs in the player that the discs fit into. The lack of a Linux software player does not affect Joe Consumer.

      And maybe law should be straightforward enough that one doesn't need legal training. Maybe engineering should be straightforward enough that one doesn't need engineering training. Law is a complex pursuit and a balance of nuance and many ideas, interests, and concerns. The philosophies are basic, but the realizations of said are many. If you create a straightforward law, you create black-and-white law, which rarely benefits any party.
    18. Re:This is a non-story! by kimvette · · Score: 1

      MPAA members disagree with you in their advertisements. When was the last time you heard an advertisement say "License {movie} on DVD today." No, it is ALWAYS "OWN {movie} on DVD today."

      They recognize in their advertising that when you BUY a commodity product, even a COPYRIGHTED one, you OWN it. Were the movie a work for hire under contract, it would be a different matter. When you BUY a DVD, you OWN it.

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    19. Re:This is a non-story! by kimvette · · Score: 1

      and there is no working definition of "fair use" that excuses the breaking of legally sanctioned encryption.


      Bypassing encryption certainly IS allowed under the exemptions quite explicitly in the text of the DMCA, for the purpose of interoperability. Cracking it so you can make a backup under Fair Use is interoperability (it will not interoperate with your backup program without decrypting it). Ripping/transcoding it for viewing on a PDA, iPod, Linux/Myth, etc. is interoperability.
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    20. Re:This is a non-story! by mr_matticus · · Score: 1

      You own the DVD. You don't own the content. This is pretty clearly established, and wishing and stamping your feet won't make it go away.

    21. Re:This is a non-story! by mr_matticus · · Score: 1

      False. "Fair use" and "interoperability" are not free-association terms. Your backup program is not licensed to access the content, and it doesn't provide for a gap in any fair use arrangement. You can make copies of the disc and keep them in a safe place without breaking the encryption.

      "Interoperability" has also never been construed to mean "where you want it to work." It only goes as far as to apply to platforms where it has been established to work and for some reason fails to do so. The interoperability argument has NEVER been used successfully in a court of law (in jurisdictions to which I have case access) to apply to format-shifting where a competing market structure exists. HD-DVDs are meant to work in HD-DVD players (software or hardware) that support the format. If you want to copy that disc to your hard drive and run it off an ISO or DMG image, that would be perfectly acceptable.

    22. Re:This is a non-story! by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      Copying does NOT require breaking encryption

      Well, if you can make a complete bitwise copy of a (HD-)DVD including the protected areas, then yes. Since equipment to do that is restricted to professional users, it is easy for commercial pirates to make such copies. The average user however cannot, and won't be able to unless:
      - the restrictions on sale of reproduction equipment are lifted
      - the encryption is broken

      . That proprietary retail content is not compatible with open source is not a relevant legal question and it's not the producer's responsibility. Backup copies are just that--identical copies.

      If the work will be available in the public domain after copyright expires however is a relevant question. Not being able to break the encryption and lack of laws forcing content 'owners' to ensure such availability means that the ultimate goal of copyright is corrupted while content producers still get the reward. I'd rather say that you can either have encrypted content or copyright protection, but not both at the same time.

      It's not your content, plain and simple.

      Not my individual content, no, but it is part of the culture I live in, and as a consequence 'owned' by the society I am a part of. That the creator of that content (or their agent) enjoys some exclusive rights for a limited time does not change that at all.

      It's not your own account you're locked out of.

      Ultimately it is. Encrypted content and no right to break said encryption means that works on which the copyright has expired cannot become part of the public domain, and thereby I (and with me all of society) is locked out of what is rightfully theirs.

    23. Re:This is a non-story! by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      The image can reproduce exact copies of the disc. Or are you unfamiliar with what an "image" is? Whether you use that image to duplicate the disc or to store it on your hard drive is unimportant. Disc-to-disc copying can be done without breaking encryption.

      I believe it is you who is unfamiliar with how DVDs and HD-DVDs work, because if you did know only for a bit what you were talking about, you'd know about how making bitwise copies and images by consumers is prevented.

      I suggest you leave it to those who know a bit about the technology in question to explain what can and what can't be done.

    24. Re:This is a non-story! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe engineering should be straightforward enough that one doesn't need engineering training. Law is a complex pursuit and a balance of nuance and many ideas, interests, and concerns. The philosophies are basic, but the realizations of said are many. If you create a straightforward law, you create black-and-white law, which rarely benefits any party.


      As long as every person is expected to know the law (ignorance is no excuse), the law should be simple enough that the average person can at least understand it for day to day use. That the average person doesn't know all the details and nuances is fine, but if the average person cannot hope to understand the law in general, then that law becomes uselesss.

      This is equivalent to how it is pointless to engineer a device that the intended users have no hope of understanding how to use. They don't have to know the details of how it is designed or manufactured, or even what it is made of, but if they can't understand what it is for and how it is used, they will simply not use it.
    25. Re:This is a non-story! by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      You own the DVD. You don't own the content. This is pretty clearly established, and wishing and stamping your feet won't make it go away.

      You do however own a copy of the content. This is recognized in copyright law (look for example at title 117 regarding the running of computer programs, where the law clearly speaks about the owner of a copy, and gives some specific right to such an owner).

      As long as there is no license I have to accept before using the content, I bought a copy of the content, no matter how much content owners would like me to believe I just licensed something from them on their conditions and with their restrictions.

    26. Re:This is a non-story! by mr_matticus · · Score: 1

      you'd know about how making bitwise copies and images by consumers is prevented. Puzzling, then, how I have dozens of DVDs stored in this fashion using nothing more than Disk Utility.
    27. Re:This is a non-story! by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      There are a few possibilities there..

      It could be that the DVDs were not scrambled with CSS (most small scale and/or non-commercial releases for example)
      It could also be that the player you use brute-forces the disk key (ie mplayer on Unix)
      And of course it could be that the software you use for creating the image unscrambles it on the fly (running AnyDVD on Windows for example)

      Note that the later 2 cases do involve circumventing a content access control, even if you are not aware of it.

      If you want to read a technical explanation of how CSS works and why a consumer can't just make a bitwise copy of a DVD including the keys needed for descrambling it, read http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Kesden/index.html

      Even if you can fool a drive into giving you a full copy of the hidden area, you still can't write it to a DVD without the proper equipment and recordable media, which aren't available to consumers.

  134. How I say it by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

    Thirteen undecillion, two hundred fifty-six decillion, two hundred seventy-eight nonillion, eight hundred eighty-seven octillion, nine hundred eighty-nine septillion, four hundred fifty-seven sextillion, six hundred fifty-one quintillion, eighteen quadrillion, eight hundred sixty-five trillion, nine hundred one billion, four hundred one million, seven hundred four thousand, six hundred forty.

  135. 42 by rambag · · Score: 1

    How long will it take google to give a search output of 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 When the search parameter is the Answer to Life, the Universe, and HD-DVD processing

  136. Wikipedia article on 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 by Unit3 · · Score: 1

    Note that there's also the article deletion discussion page about it here at wikipedia. I strongly encourage all Slashdot posters to post their comments on this article deletion for review by the Wikipedia editors. ;)

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  137. 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who the hell posted my salary information on Sloshdat?

    Bill G.

  138. This message brought to you by the Number: by icedcool · · Score: 1

    3!

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  139. Get Down Off Your 'High' Horse by EgoWumpus · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't categorize knowing that a prime number is only evenly divisible by itself and one as "Higher math".

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    1. Re:Get Down Off Your 'High' Horse by cortana · · Score: 1

      It's certainly high enough to go over most people's heads...

  140. http://de.wikipedia.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I notice that there's no article yet on the German-language Wikipedia. French also seems to be available. Anyone?

  141. I got blocked by samnetwork · · Score: 1

    from digg and my account has been deleted! Just because I posted a story *about* digg censoring the HD DVD Key. Read the story here http://mirror.sam-network.com/

  142. er by malkir · · Score: 1

    0nce upon a time 9 schoolgirls Frolicked in a patch of 9 daisys, but 11 days later were assassinated by the 0 so powerful R2D2. 9 Days after that, 74 Etheopians were cured of 3 incurable diseases. 5 more deadly Bacteria exists. ADD stopped me from finishing this stupid thing.

  143. Sealand by Hawkeye05 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sites are going down all around me, still Slashdot soldiers on. When will someone send this to Sealand they should make it there new anthem. Surprisingly all the hosts for any type of software that could use this are now completely down.

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  144. And now for something completely different! by McNihil · · Score: 1

    The 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 key!

  145. Intel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Intel gave up their old-style CPU numbering scheme in place of names because numbers cannot be copyrighted. Could the DMCA please explain why they think the same law does not apply for them?

  146. Encode it. by maciarc · · Score: 1

    'All your Commodore are belong to us!' CfkRAp1041vYQVbFY1aIwQ==

  147. I was too slow. by Kaenneth · · Score: 1

    Unfortunetly, 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.com is already taken as a domain name.

  148. That is not how it should end by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should have ended with "And a partridge in a pear tree".

  149. Re:Not very long... (clue) by ThousandStars · · Score: 1

    Is it really so obscure?

  150. How Come these Magic Numbers are so Big? by DanielMarkham · · Score: 1

    How come these magic numbers are so honking big? What? Seven was taken?

    Back in MY day, kids, when we made a magic number we made it simple! Like 5! Nowadays young folks getting all fancy with hexidecimal and such, first thing you know, they're sticking these hexo deci whatchacallits into the DVD players. Dang vermin! When we wanted to watch a movie, there was only one magic number, six! That's how many beers came in the six pack you took to the drive in. If we wanted another magic number, guess what? We just made it up!

    And we didn't get into a bunch of silly fights with lawyers over magic numbers neither. Aren't the lawyers making enough already? What, now we got record companies paying lawyers to sue people over magic numbers? You didn't see lawyers in my day suing over numbers. In my day, a good lawyer would only sue you if you ran over somebody. The world's going to pot, I tellya.

  151. alright who's the wise guy by Randall311 · · Score: 1

    that posted my luggage combination?

  152. it's deja vu all over again by coaxial · · Score: 1

    Whoa! Deja vu!

    As the saying goes, "If you can put it on a t-shirt, it's speech."

    I'm certainly glad the RIAA's efforts worked last time! I mean, what would the world be like if we didn't have DVDs?

  153. Sooo, anybody... by had3z · · Score: 1

    Anybody wanna name his baby with this number?

  154. WHOOOOOOSHH!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you new here? Having posted 457 comments so far you should know what that "WHOOOOOOSHH!!!!" sound means.

  155. This is actually my HOPE for the future by hummassa · · Score: 1

    The more Microsoft pushes Treacherous Computing, more quickly everything will be screwed up and more quickly this whole DRM fad will go away. People should understand: (1) Alice cannot send a message to Bob without Eve listening to it if Bob and Eve are the same person and (2) I [and many others] want to be free to tinker with every single appliance I buy with my own personal blood-sweat-and-tears hard earned cash. Obviously, the liability is on me if I screw up something that belongs to other people.

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    1. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by pnewhook · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Maybe companies should understand that secure encryption is impossible when you have several thousand geeks running around with a computer, no social skills, and way too much idle time on their hands.

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    2. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The mere fact that geeks regularly cooperate on a massive scale (i'd hazard the only people who cooperate on a larger scale are organised religions) illustrates that we do not lack the social skills necessary for our society.

    3. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by pnewhook · · Score: 0

      The mere fact that geeks regularly cooperate on a massive scale (i'd hazard the only people who cooperate on a larger scale are organised religions) illustrates that we do not lack the social skills necessary for our society.
      That is no more social than someone alone in their car on a highway surrounded by thousands of other people alone in their cars. They are all doing the same thing, and they are technically doing it together and cooperatively, but it is by no means social.
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    4. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by DarthChris · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That is no more social than someone alone in their car on a highway surrounded by thousands of other people alone in their cars. They are all doing the same thing, and they are technically doing it together and cooperatively, but it is by no means social.
      Yet another inept car analogy I see.

      When you drive down the motorway, in general everyone is going to a different place and doesn't care about where anyone else is going to. You have to take into consideration what they're doing on the motorway, however.

      When people work to crack something like this, they are all working to the same end, and do not necessarily know what each other is doing to that end, although sometimes people discuss their ideas to get feedback etc.

      Maybe we need a new moderation: (-1, Car Analogy).
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    5. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by wiggles · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sure it's social! Demented and sad, but social!

    6. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by UNIX_Meister · · Score: 1

      I'd have to disagree. Beyond the normal rules of the road, there isn't any cooperation between the drivers. Now, if the drivers were chained together to pull a really large load, then there would be cooperation of the same magnitude that geeks use when cracking DRM.

    7. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by pnewhook · · Score: 1

      I'd have to disagree. Beyond the normal rules of the road, there isn't any cooperation between the drivers.

      I'd say the same thing about a bunch of programmers working independantly in their own basements. They know the goal and rules of development otherwise they wouldn't be there. They only communicate occasionally when needed. It's not like they are all in a room actively discussing the problem and way forward like normal human beings.

      Same thing with drivers. They all know where they are going otherwise they wouldn't be on the road. They know the rules of the road, then perform the occasional communication in the form of turn signals, car horns and hand gestures.

      I stand by the analogy. And online cooperation is not being social.

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    8. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by pnewhook · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yet another inept car analogy I see.

      I would have picked a running marathon analogy, but figured more people here have driven or been in a car than would get the reference to exercise.

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    9. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by ZiakII · · Score: 1

      Maybe companies should understand that secure encryption is impossible when you have several thousand geeks running around with a computer, no social skills, and way too much idle time on their hands.

      So what your saying is the MPAA should hire us all escorts.......I like it

    10. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by devilspgd · · Score: 1

      Not at all -- It's simply impossible to use encryption to protect anything if the enemy has the encryption key in their hands.

      It's perfectly possible to have relatively safe/secure encryption between multiple parties who are all committed to maintaining the security of the encryption, as long as you keep the keys from the enemy.

      Unfortunately for DRM, the consumer and the enemy are the same person.

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    11. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by lordmatthias215 · · Score: 1

      yeah, because no geek has ever heard the word "marathon" before, and wouldn't know what one is or how it works. right.

    12. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by Skevin · · Score: 1

      It sounds good until you realize that not all escorts are svelte runway models. Consider, for example, armed escorts making sure you leave the building while you are being fired from your sensitive government job, who will kill you if you so much as look at anyone funny...

      Solomon

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    13. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by jazman_777 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Maybe we need a new moderation: (-1, Car Analogy).


      Excellent notion. The moderation choices we have now are so bland.

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    14. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by pnewhook · · Score: 1

      Oh get a grip and lighten up - geez.

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    15. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by Gorshkov · · Score: 1

      So what your saying is the MPAA should hire us all escorts.......I like it
      Or, they could hire one escort, have her do a webcast, and all of us geeks would have something *else* on our hands .......
    16. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by haeger · · Score: 1
      Sweet. A "Breakfast Club" reference.

      I'm glad to see I'm not the only old git reading this site. ;-)

      .haeger

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    17. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by eMbry00s · · Score: 1

      [...]illustrates that we do not lack the social skills necessary for our society.
      Now if we could only aquire the social skills necessary for procreation! :/
    18. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by Anomolous+Cowturd · · Score: 1

      "Marathon coding session" doesn't count.

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    19. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by saviorsloth · · Score: 1

      they hardly do themselves any favors when they decide not to support all these geeks' OS of choice, so that if they want the shiny new high-definition movies, and many of them do, they need to marshal all of those computer skills and idle time towards utterly destroying the "unbreakable" copy protection scheme that accompanies each generation of media.

    20. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by indifferent+children · · Score: 1
      Maybe we need a new moderation: (-1, Car Analogy).

      Excellent notion. The moderation choices we have now are so bland.

      Greasemonkey is your friend.

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    21. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by gfreeman · · Score: 1

      As bland as a Daihatsu.

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    22. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you drive down the motorway, in general everyone is going to a different place and doesn't care about where anyone else is going to.
      Except on a bank holiday in Britain, when they're all going to Ikea.
    23. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by fuliginous · · Score: 1

      Idle time and hands, someone needs to remind all those geeks about masturbation!

      Of course for that they'll want a HD DVD of the hottest new young things and in order to watch that they need something that will play the encrypted disks. Damn seem to be back at the start of this.

    24. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by fanpoe · · Score: 1

      yeah, because no geek has ever heard the word "marathon" before, and wouldn't know what one is or how it works. right.

      I've heard the word, I know what it is and how it works but I still fail to see how an analogy based on a chocolate bar works here! (or why why people are referring to exercise. Is it to work off the calories after the marathon?)

    25. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by drakaan · · Score: 1

      Well said. You inspired me.

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    26. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      The person who said "escort" meant "prostitute".

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    27. Re:This is actually my HOPE for the future by fractoid · · Score: 1

      Marathon? You mean the classic FPS by Bungie, right?

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  156. Key Isn't Copyrighted by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 1

    But the protected content is. Is the key to circumvent the DRM protecting the copyrighted content, not a circumvention tool under the DMCA?

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    1. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted by Grym · · Score: 1

      How can a non-executable, single string of numbers constitute a tool for circumvention?

      Let's extend this thought. Let's say I make a cryptographic system to protect my copyrighted slashdot postings (my precious, precious postings...) and let's say that I choose the key to be 00 00 00 03. By extension of your logic, would I then be able to submit DMCA takedown notices on pages containing the number 3? Can I sue anyone that dares include the number 3 in their website, blog, and so on? Why not? Why couldn't I? The number 3 would be a tool for circumvention of my copyright protection mechanism, would it not?

      The absolute free pass that the content industry gets in both logic and the law is repugnant.

      hex09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0

      -Grym

    2. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 1

      How can a non-executable, single string of numbers constitute a tool for circumvention?
      When that number represents a cryptographic key to circumvent DRM.

      By extension of your logic, would I then be able to submit DMCA takedown notices on pages containing the number 3?
      If the message says, "You can use the following cryptographic key to circumvent Grym's DRM: 00 00 00 03", then yes.

      Look, I'm not saying that I like the law. I'm just trying to shed some light on what's going on here.
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    3. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted by Grym · · Score: 1

      When that number represents a cryptographic key to circumvent DRM.

      Does it? Because to me it just looks like a number. I just said "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" out loud, why isn't the HD-DVD in my hand decrypting itself? Weird... the DRM is still there, completely un-circumvented. So, how could I have broken any law? Why should this post get censored and be applicable to DMCA takedown provisions?

      Without a program (which I have not linked and which does not include the key with it), this number is not able to circumvent anything. How could it? It is literally a random number.

      Look, I'm not saying that I like the law. I'm just trying to shed some light on what's going on here.

      I'm not suggesting that you do like it. In fact, I have yet to meet a single knowledgeable person that I have discussed this issue with who does feel comfortable with the provisions and implications of the DMCA. (So much for "By the people, for the people.") Maybe that's just my personal experience, though. Surely someone out there not profiting hand-over-fist from the law has to like it. Though, I must admit the thought that there's a pro-DMCA voting bloc out there somewhere is hilarious.

      Regardless, I think I understand what's going on, and the fact is I don't like it. It seems to me to be just another instance where the DMCA takedown provisions are being (ab)used to limit speech which certain groups find inconvenient or embarrassing, and that's why I find it so infuriating. What makes me even more upset is that nobody from our government is stepping in to stop this (in my mind, clear) violation of the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights.

      -Grym

    4. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted by burris · · Score: 0

      Nobody disputes that the key is a circumvention device and trafficking in it is illegal. There should be no problem getting a court order to remove it. However, the DMCA takedown notification doesn't require a judge and has strict limits to prevent its abuse. It is only for taking down material that you hold exclusive rights to under Copyright law. The key is not Copyrighted and you shouldn't be able to use the DMCA 512c takedown notification on it.

      Most likely, the summary and descriptions are wrong and people are merely being sent demands to remove the material, not DMCA 512c takedown notifications.

    5. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Nobody disputes that the key is a circumvention device

      What the fuck? The post immediately above yours disputes that!

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    6. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted by EzInKy · · Score: 1


      Nobody disputes that the key is a circumvention device and trafficking in it is illegal.


      Didn't the A HREF=http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/ 30/1941203]Supreme Court side with Microsoft[/A] because numbers are not devices?

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    7. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      You do realize that a program is just a number too. Anything digital is.

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    8. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted by Grym · · Score: 1

      You do realize that a program is just a number too. Anything digital is.

      Yeah, but a program is not only by orders of magnitude much longer but also executable.

      The latter part is the most important because that distinction is what makes programs tools and .txt files simply data. Think about it, you wouldn't consider a .txt file written about how to disable DVD encryption to be a "tool that circumvents DRM," but most people would agree that a compiled binary of DeCSS would be.

      My point is that this data is being conflated as constituting a tool for circumvention when it is very clearly, by itself, just a number.

      -Grym

  157. ahoy matey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  158. Google shows 278,000 results by jag7720 · · Score: 1

    Just search google for 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 and you will get 278,000 results. That would take a lot of time/effort to censor.

  159. 69? by pestario · · Score: 1

    How many of you thought 69 was getting censored? I know I'm not the only one...

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  160. .com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Heh, it looks like somebody registered http://www.09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0.com/.

  161. A new English word has been coined. by Falkkin · · Score: 1
    cdzrherntphpqjwetxeqjggpvkq (verb) To decrypt an HD-DVD. Example usage: "Bob cdzrherntphpqjwetxeqjggpvkqed The Matrix so that he could watch it in Linux."


    Hint:

    s = "CDZRHERNTPHPQJWETXEQJGGPVKQ"
    n = 0
    for c in s:
            n *= 26
            n += ord(c) - 65
    print n


  162. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted - Then why DMCA Takedown? by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 1

    Well, I think the point is, if the key is not copyrighted, then how is a DMCA takedown application the appropriate way to remove something that isn't copyrighted in the first place?

  163. How is this insensitive clod modded up? by paladinwannabe2 · · Score: 1

    When expressing something as a factor of prime numbers, intelligent people use the p^n notation. Instead of saying that 64=2*2*2*2*2*2, you say 64=2^6. Besides, the parent's point is that censoring numbers is stupid- and, by extension, people who advocate censoring numbers are stupid.

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  164. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted - Then why DMCA Takedown? by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 1

    They are asking that the key be taken down because it is a circumvention tool, not because the key itself is somehow copyright.

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  165. Tags by LordSnooty · · Score: 1

    I visited and saw 'recent tags' first, five hex pairs, I thought someone was trying the poison the tag system. Then I saw a story with a huge string of hex as a tag. I thought someone was REALLY trying to screw up tags. Then I read the summary.

  166. The number is not out of danger yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    It's got a long way to go before it can beat the DMCA and win freedom!

    Just look: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&wo rd1=09+F9+11+02+9D+74+E3+5B+D8+41+56+C5+63+56+88+C 0&word2=DMCA

  167. Slashdot and Scientology by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

    They did it with Scientology and, come to cases, they'll do it here.

    Did they actually delete posts, or whole stories, or what? I must have been on hiatus when that happened.

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    1. Re:Slashdot and Scientology by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 1
      Yonder it is.


      To summarize, the CoS sent them a DMCA takedown notice for some post that had the text of OT III and they deleted it. Quite proper on their part I thought. It also deliciously illustrated the futility of trying to unring bells because there were several comments in the linked article that had OT III in them and that continued for a while after, just like the posting of this key will continues in this story and will for a while, here and everywhere else.

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  168. Re:Wikipedia article on 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 by Petrushka · · Score: 1

    It's been permanently removed now, thanks to the actions of the public-spirited^W^Wimperialist lackey John Reaves. But it's still available in the page history.

  169. Re:Not very long... (clue) by dr_strang · · Score: 1

    It's not obscure because you found a website with Cliff's Notes on it? Is that your definition of mainstream? ;)

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  170. Re:Censorship? Yes. Illegal? Maybe by Petrushka · · Score: 1

    I do not doubt at all that this is censorship by a company.

    Well, really, it's not censorship by a company. That would be when a company prohibits the use of the number in its own circles and fires employees who break the rule, or delete posts on forums that they host.

    This is most definitely censorship by the government, by means of the DMCA. It so happens that it is for the benefit of a company. As soon as the government starts passing laws (and especially once they start being enforced), that's government censorship.

  171. Re:Wikipedia article on 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 by D4MO · · Score: 1

    But like the key is in the title... They'll have to delete the discussions about the deletions.

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  172. Don't get angry with the admins. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The number itself isn't a problem. It's the context (including information on what it is, how to use it to circumvent DRM, etc.; without that context, the number's article is worthless and would be deleted, with it the article is DMCA violating). Wikipedia is in a the U.S., within the arms of that shitty law. Until/unless it's okayed by the Wikimedia legal people, it has to stay down. Don't get angry at admins over it.

  173. A number is not a tool by vinn01 · · Score: 1

    Unless things are seriously out of whack.

    To put it in programming terms, a raw number has no methods (Java) or member fuctions (C++). There is no logic. No processing.

    In the psychical world I would say that a raw number has no utility. It is not capable of being used to perform work.

    There is no proof that a non-protectable process could not generate the same the number.

    1. Re:A number is not a tool by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 1

      A number is not a tool
      Neither is a hunk of metal, but a screwdriver is. I bet if you put a blindfold on, you'd sit around and wonder why you can't see. Is a number a tool? It is when it is a cryptographic key.

      To put it in programming terms, a raw number has no methods (Java) or member fuctions (C++).
      True, but irrelevant.

      Yes, Your Honor, I seriously did try to argue that the design of Java and C++ primitives should govern your interpretation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act to the exclusion of the Act itself. No, my mother did not drop me on my head when I was a baby. Why do you ask?

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    2. Re:A number is not a tool by vinn01 · · Score: 1

      Whoosh.

      You are failing to understand what a tool is.

      A screwdriver is a tool because is can:
      -mate with a slotted fastener
      -turn
      -twist
      -provide percussion (if used for mass alone)
      -etc..

      These sorts of attributes are what I was taking about when I mentioned methods and functions.

      A cryptographic key number is not a tool. My cryptographic key number could be the number 1. The number 1 is not a program (software) or a device (hardware). No methods. No functions.

      Now apply that thinking to the hexadecimal number key is this case. It's still just a number.

  174. Or in English by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    thirteen undecillion, two hundred fifty six decillion, two hundred seventy eight nonillion, eight hundred eighty seven octillion, nine hundred eighty nine septillion, four hundred fifty seven sextillion, six hundred fifty one quintillion, eighteen quadrillion, eight hundred sixty five trillion, nine hundred and one billion, four hundred and one million, seven hundred and four thousand, six hundred and forty

  175. I wonder what hashes to that by Blaze74 · · Score: 1

    There is some value that when hashed with a 256 bit hash will come out as that key.

  176. LOL by sleepykit · · Score: 1

    Great, so now everyone who visits slashdot is going to have this random number.

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  177. Simpsons reference by Old+Wolf · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd like to see this on the next start sequence of the Simpsons! Bart writing on the blackboard:

        I must not write 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
        I must not write 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
        I must not write 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
        I must not write 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ...

    1. Re:Simpsons reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Grandpa Simpson:

      Now my story begins in 19-dickety-two. We had to say dickety cause the Kaiser had stolen our word twenty. I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

      Replace twenty with '09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0', and 'Kaiser' with 'MPAA'...

    2. Re:Simpsons reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd already appreciate it if someone could photoshop this.
      I think I'd use it as desktop wallpaper

  178. Wait a minute by LordSnooty · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know this is fun an' all, but aren't the takedown notices directed at the program BackupHDDVD plus keys, and identifying them as such? Blathering on about a bunch of hex might be to their advantage since they won't be using that string again. Maybe it's our duty if anything to carry round that prog on our thumbdrives. But still, it's fun...

  179. Hey, I was looking for a new SSID! by beeblebrox · · Score: 1

    Let's see, how often is my access point sending beacons out?

  180. ROT-13 baby! Suppa secure! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    09 S9 11 02 9Q 74 R3 5O Q8 41 56 P5 63 56 88 P0

  181. What hex string? by just_another_sean · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...via my webhost and registrar for simply hosting:

    A) A textbook implementation of the AACS protocol and
    B) Hex strings You mean this one? 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
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  182. Re:Wikipedia article on 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The key isn't a DMCA violation. It's the instructions on how to use the key. Without those instructions any article on the key would be worthless and deserve deletion anyways. Lose-lose.

  183. Digg gets paid for this? by loconet · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure how true this is but apparently the reason they are deleting the stories is because Digg gets paid by the group behind hd-dvd?

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  184. The key has a website by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    www.hddvdkey.com

  185. One possible form of protest by einhverfr · · Score: 1

    is to write up blog entries about how interesting this number series is. Mention in passing that it was chosen due to a feeling that the cease and dissist letters were over the top, and that the key is insufficient to circumvent the access controls by itself. Then talk about how interesting this number is mathematically.

    a) One is just mentioning facts
    b) While acknowledging that this is indeed a key, you are mostly talking about the interesting numeric properties of the number.

    To what extent can simply stating objective facts be outlawed due to the DMCA?

    If I say "That ebook is protected using ROT-13" is that subject to prosecution?

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    1. Re:One possible form of protest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is that subject to prosecution?

      In USA jury system, prosecution is subject to YOU.
    2. Re:One possible form of protest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If thats not something the ebook provider has publically advertised, most likely yes.

    3. Re:One possible form of protest by einhverfr · · Score: 1

      My thinking was actually in a different form.

      Suppose one says:

      "The following ebooks are known to use ROT-13 and hide behind the DMCA for this faulty protection (insert list of ebooks). ROT-13 is also used on Usenet, Slashdot and other areas as a simple way to obfuscate potentially offensive content. Therefore it seems to me that the argument that ROT-13 encoder/decoders would be access control circumvention devices under the DMCA raises very potentially troubling free speech issues. The manufacturers of the ebooks should be ashamed of their role in this."

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  186. How Long Before... by ShimmyShimmy · · Score: 1

    How long before the magic 16-hex-pairs number shows up in a comment here?

    I think it till take approximately 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    seconds. Conversion from hex to decimal necessary.

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  187. A picture's worth a thousand words!! by dunezone · · Score: 1

    http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5449/pic2zq4.jp g http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7224/pic2ua6.jp g I know this will die fast but I don't know of any other place to host.

  188. My blog's still up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    They haven't sent me any kind of notice, and my URL's not far from the top of a google search.

    Perhaps it's because I'm not in the U.S of A.

    Perhaps it's because I'd just laugh at them.

    They are taken to a Union PoW camp where they notice Angel Eyes who is now a sergeant in the Union army. Angel Eyes notices them when a soldier calls for Bill Carson and Tuco answers. It is clear that Angel Eyes has known both Tuco and Blondie previously. Angel Eyes then calls Tuco to his quarters where Tuco is savagely beaten before revealing the name of the cemetery. Angel Eyes calls Blondie next, and after Blondie sees bloodstains on the floor, these words are exchanged:

    Blondie: "Aren't I going to get the same treatment?"
    Angel Eyes: "Would you talk?"
    Bondie: "No, probably not."

  189. Boring by cortana · · Score: 1

    Use some imagination!

  190. Kevin Rose Response by loconet · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is Kevin Rose's response as to why they have been deleting the stories over at Digg. Will Slashdot follow as well? If not why or why not?

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    1. Re:Kevin Rose Response by MacrosTheBlack · · Score: 2, Insightful
      It's not actually Kevin Rose, it's Jay Adelson as it says right underneath the title (as well as signed off "Jay". To repost here:

      Hey all, I just wanted to explain what some of you have been noticing around some stories that have been submitted to Digg on the HD DVD encryption key being cracked. This has all come up in the past 24 hours, mostly connected to the HD-DVD hack that has been circulating online, having been posted to Digg as well as numerous other popular news and information websites. We've been notified by the owners of this intellectual property that they believe the posting of the encryption key infringes their intellectual property rights. In order to respect these rights and to comply with the law, we have removed postings of the key that have been brought to our attention. Whether you agree or disagree with the policies of the intellectual property holders and consortiums, in order for Digg to survive, it must abide by the law. Digg's Terms of Use, and the terms of use of most popular sites, are required by law to include policies against the infringement of intellectual property. This helps protect Digg from claims of infringement and being shut down due to the posting of infringing material by others. Our goal is always to maintain a purely democratic system for the submission and sharing of information - and we want Digg to continue to be a great resource for finding the best content. However, in order for that to happen, we all need to work together to protect Digg from exposure to lawsuits that could very quickly shut us down. Thanks for your understanding, Jay
    2. Re:Kevin Rose Response by loconet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Amazingly enough it is not only articles that are being deleted. Digg comments explaining why it was a bad move by Digg are also being deleted! (Scroll down to a thread where users are saying their comments are being deleted because they explained how posting a number is not illegal)

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    3. Re:Kevin Rose Response by loconet · · Score: 1

      The link, however, was posted by Kevin Rose on digg. It is safe to assume that blog post reflects Kevin's view on this as well.

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    4. Re:Kevin Rose Response by Butisol · · Score: 0

      Kevin Rose is a fucking pussy. Linking to the infringing material does not equate to posting the infringing material. Something better than Digg has to exist. All this censorship is getting ridiculous.

    5. Re:Kevin Rose Response by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      Will Slashdot follow as well?

      If you look in the Slashdot archives, there are still tons of stories and comments about DeCSS. So I'm guessing the answer is "no".

    6. Re:Kevin Rose Response by Trogre · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Whether you agree or disagree with the policies of the intellectual property holders and consortiums, in order for Digg to survive, it must abide by the law.

      So who's going to tell him that they were already abiding by the law? A randomly-generated number is not protected under any known intellectual property law.

      Wuss.

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    7. Re:Kevin Rose Response by just_another_sean · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Something better than Digg has to exist. All this censorship is getting ridiculous.

      Something better has been around for a while now. It's called /.

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    8. Re:Kevin Rose Response by Quantam · · Score: 1

      "Will Slashdot follow as well? If not why or why not?"

      That might not be such a bad thing. Think about it:
      1. Slashdot posts article containing the key
      2. Slashdot gets C&D order from MPAA
      3. Slashdot puts up a donation box for lawyer's fees and tells MPAA to go screw themselves
      4. Millions of nerds donate $1 each
      5. Slashdot hires Johnnie Cochran
      6. ???
      7. CowboyNeal profits!

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    9. Re:Kevin Rose Response by j_f_chamblee · · Score: 1

      5. Slashdot hires Johnnie Cochran

      Not to be a wet blanket, but I'm afraid Johnnie Cochran died on March 29, 2005.

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    10. Re:Kevin Rose Response by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually, it is arguably protected under the DMCA, which is a big part of the problem that people have with that law.

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    11. Re:Kevin Rose Response by thefekete · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is a second post from Kevin entitled: "Digg This: 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0"

      But now, after seeing hundreds of stories and reading thousands of comments, you've made it clear. You'd rather see Digg go down fighting than bow down to a bigger company. We hear you, and effective immediately we won't delete stories or comments containing the code and will deal with whatever the consequences might be.
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    12. Re:Kevin Rose Response by nsebban · · Score: 1

      He posted a second entry, where he states they changed their mind.

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    13. Re:Kevin Rose Response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, there you go.
      That's step six-- embezzle funds allocated for deceased attorney.

  191. So, logically.. by AJWM · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If they're so upset about people saying what the processing key is, then surely they'd have no problem with saying what it's not.

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    1. Re:So, logically.. by bogjobber · · Score: 1

      Well it's not 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 BF, and it's not 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C1. This riddle is unsolvable!

    2. Re:So, logically.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously, ~0xf606eefd628b1ca427bea93a9ca9773f.

  192. Can I just say ... by Dark$ide · · Score: 1

    zero niner, foxtrot niner, wun wun, zero two, niner delta, seven fower, echo tree, fife bravo, delta eight, fower wun, fife six, charlie fife, six tree, fife six, eight eight, charlie zero or will I get sued by the ICAO for using their alphabet?

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  193. What if... by evilninja · · Score: 1

    it's art?

  194. interestingly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The lawyers for the AACS included the allegedly copyrighted material in the cease and desist letter to google:

    Sent via: express mail
    Re: Illegal Offering of Processing Key to Circumvent AACS Copyright Protection

    http://uscpwned.blogspot.com/2007/02 /holy-grail-located-hd-dvd-and-blu-ray.html
    http: //linuxnotes.blogspot.com/2007/02/09-f9-11-02-9d-7 4-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63.html
    http://simonsta.blogs pot.com/2007/02/lost-meets-aacs.html
    http://croni casredux.blogspot.com/2007/02/crypto.html

    Dear Google Inc.

    We represent Advanced Access Content System Licensing Administrator, LLC (AACS LA), developer, proprietor and licensor of the Advanced Access Content System (AACS). AACS is an integrated set of technological protection measures that controls access to and prevents unauthorized copying of copyrighted motion pictures embodied on high definition DVDs.

    &c...

    Silly rabbits!

  195. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

    Just doing my part.

  196. Well, my password is dumbass5 by Wooky_linuxer · · Score: 1
    And my account just got hacked because of you. So I am coming after you for exposing my once-secret password. Prepare to be sued into smitherings.

    Now, can I join the MAFIAA? please?

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  197. Isn't everything digital a number? by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 1

    Isn't that 700 megabyte XVid version of.. I don't know.. Star Trek: Generations that you just downloaded using BitTorrent 'a number'. I mean, any number of bytes can be represented as a single number made up of all those bytes.

    If sending around that 'number' is copyright infringement, what difference does it make to the length of the number? I'm not trying to play devil's advocate here, as I can see defending the copyright on the number 2, for example, is ridiculous. But.. I'd agree defending the copyright of something represented by even a 2 megabyte number is right for that copyright holder to do. Where IS the line?

    1. Re:Isn't everything digital a number? by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 1

      The line is whether the number represents a creative work. 09F91102 9D74E35B D84156C5 635688C0 is not a creative work, it is just a piece of information that some businesses find it inconvenient for people to know. It was a trade secret. It is not a creative work.

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    2. Re:Isn't everything digital a number? by Alioth · · Score: 1

      No. That xvid is a 'number' that is intended to be a movie. It is literally a representation of a creative work.

      The AACS number was only ever intended to be a number - nothing more, nothing less. The AACS key is not a creative work, and never will be a creative work any more than pi is a creative work.

  198. I propose that... by MacrosTheBlack · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone use CSS to encrypt the key... would be impossible to break then!

    1. Re:I propose that... by Ben174 · · Score: 2, Funny

      > Someone use CSS to encrypt the key... would be impossible to break then!

      Um. Ok.

      <style type="text/css">
         .key { font-weight: bold; }
      </style>

      The key is <span class="key">09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0</span>

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  199. Encoded version by owlstead · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've got this piece of information which I only know that the first digit starts with the number nine (00001001 in binary). I've encoded this information using a special encryption technique and a key. This to keep it from being used by persons that do not have the right to this information. Anyway, noone without should decode the number, or you would breach the DMCA. This obviously goes twice for the RI-AA.

    The information is: A3 53 BB A8 37 DE 49 F1 72 EB FC 6F C9 FC 22 6A

    1. Re:Encoded version by infolation · · Score: 1

      09 S9 11 02 9Q 74 R3 5O Q8 41 56 P5 63 56 88 P0

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  200. Add key to spam lists, MPAA will fight spam :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Might as well get those MPAA lawyers doing something useful with their miserable existences.

  201. 13256278887989457651018865901401704640 is mine by ozzee · · Score: 1

    13256278887989457651018865901401704640 is mine and I release it under the GPLv3. Anyone who wishes to use use it but not under the terms of the GPLv3 can do so if they pay me all of the revenue their company makes for all time. I also copyright the following formula: 718624318471594843*2^64 + 15582831591453788352 And the component numbers (except for 2 and 64) and release it under the same terms.

  202. eCard of that Number - Send to Geeks by rospahr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    eCard of the Number (3rd ecard on the page) http://www.brainwrench.com/ecards/categories/prote st.php

  203. This brings back fond memories... by roystgnr · · Score: 1

    Professor Dave Touretzky has all the humorous DeCSS art I remember (and a lot more I don't) archived in his gallery here. It's just cute watching the MPAA try to censor internet publication of movie decryption information again. They can't really be stupid enough to think it'll work this time, can they?

  204. Fixed that for you by Chmcginn · · Score: 1

    The internet is a new threat, though probably one that they are meeting in commitees to discuss exactly what it is.
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  205. Ping 'em by Kyle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ping -p 09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0 www.mpaa.com

    Hmm, shame MAC addresses are too short.

    Arbitrary URL strings?

    The possibilities are endless.

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    1. Re:Ping 'em by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Even easier.

      http://www.mpaa.org/?09F911029D74E35BD84156C563568 8C0

      Will show up in the apache.log

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  206. Isn't it obvious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can someone explain this DRM thing to me?

    As I see it, a hacker who gets to the XBox key or the WinDVD key for decoding HD-DVD movies can now decrypt any HD-DVD movie, until that key gets revoked.

    Why doesn't he just keep quiet about finding the key, rent every movie at blockbuster, decrypt it with the yet-to-be-revoked key, and crank out torrents like no tomorrow?

    And the only way to stop him would be to revoke ALL the keys, because there's no way to know which key he got access to.

    Am I missing some piece of the puzzle here?

  207. It's The Thought That Counts by Peazy · · Score: 1

    They thought about copyrighting the key, that's creative input.

  208. First Rule by killercoder · · Score: 1

    The first rule of "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" club is no one talks about "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0". Remember this number is a privilege, not a right. If you break the rules we shall revoke your access to "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0". No one likes a smart "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0".

    Signed,

    The Supreme 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

  209. I have seen the... by mrbluze · · Score: 1

    fnord!

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  210. the magic google URI hash by bl8n8r · · Score: 1
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  211. Adam, let me give you some advice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You are a bright guy. I can see that.

    You already know you are playing with fire. It doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong -- only that you are, even if unintentionally, starting a fight. I know you are smart enough to understand why this is the case. Once people think you are trying to dig into their wallets, look out. Again, it doesn't matter if you are or aren't -- only that they THINK you are. And this industry that you have engaged is tough group. They have shown they mean business and they most definitely think lots of people are digging into their wallets because they don't hesitate to take legal action.

    So be smart. Lawyer-up and learn what you can and can not do, from a legal perspective. This will save you from grief and from fear. Once educated, then you aren't as easily picked on. There are plenty of resources out there to help you...

  212. "Oh Nine, Eff Nine" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9HaNbsIfp0

    Song with some very relevant lyrics ;)

  213. Hey, that is my password!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was hacked in minutes once 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0 was revealed to the world. :-(

  214. meh by Khashishi · · Score: 1

    I don't get what the fuss is over the fact that the thing censored is a number. All digital data are numbers. That's why it's called digital.

  215. since the cat is out of the bag by museumpeace · · Score: 1

    why dont they just admit they can catch, jail, sue or even identify all the people who have now copied the number? Unlike other usese of the phrase, I would say the poster can claim "mission accomplished". Being a subversive myself,I of course followed the link and cached the number where is safe behind a fire wall. [and no, log readers,, its NOT the firewall from which I am posting this comment!]

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  216. Doesn't explain why users are being banned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's more to this than meets the eye.

    There is no way that the DMCA can be used to delete people's comments about the issue or about Digg's actions. Comments are not a circumvention device.

    Nor can the DMCA be used to ban people's accounts. So only Digg staff alone are responsible for this additional censorship, not the MPAA.

  217. Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong.... by tacokill · · Score: 1

    Their goal with DRM has nothing to do with John-Q-Customer.

    It is about locking you to certain companies for your "media" needs. Be it music, movies, TV, or whatever else comes along. It's about controlling the distribution mechanisms in an environment where that is almost impossible (the digital environment).

    Don't you get it? They don't want "information to be free". At all. They want as much money from you as you can stand and in order to do that, they have to control distribution. This is why Apple has, and will continue to have, a large chunk of the online music business. Because they (tightly) control their distribution via DRM.

    1. Re:Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong.... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      That may or not be a goal, but then they are failing miserably.

      Independent labels are available at the iTunes store, soon without any DRM. Any publisher can press or burn DVDs with no DRM that will play on any player. HD-DVD and Blueray are the same. They were in far more control back in the old days, when you could only get exposure to new music from the radio and when the only video that you had access to came from TV or the theater. The only thing that DRM does is give their own content a competitive disadvantage... bring it on!

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    2. Re:Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I suppose you think that when a company spends 30-200+ million dollars on a film that they are not entitled to any return on investment, because they work for you?

      Not that I am defending the foolishness of DRM, but people complaining about the movie studios wanting money has always been one of the most asinine and childish excuses that software pirates use. If the content is so 'worthless' then why put so much value into obtaining it?

  218. Free Speech is a mother fucker. Google Cache this! by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 0, Troll

    HD DVD processing key:

    9 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

  219. Next Slashdot Poll by EvilGoodGuy · · Score: 1

    Best hex sig.

  220. Devil's Advocate by Dunghopper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I just have to say that the "Free Speech" arguments don't seem to hold a lot of water to me. Don't get me wrong, I hate DRM/DMCA/MPAA as much as the next guy, but free speech?

    If this number should be protected by free speech, is it also free speech for me to publish your name, birthday, ssn, and credit card number?

    Bring on the flames.

    1. Re:Devil's Advocate by just_another_sean · · Score: 1

      If this number should be protected by free speech, is it also free speech for me to publish your name, birthday, ssn, and credit card number?

      Well if these peices of generally easily obtainable pieces of information were not used (stupidly) as verification for identity then why would anyone care?

      Just as the DMCA and DRM schemes in general are easily breakable so too are the security schemes cooked up for identity verification. In general people keep the information you mention a secret, but only because we're forced to by idiotic uses of them.

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  221. A key is not a copyrightable work, EVER by Morgaine · · Score: 1

    >> How can so short a sequence be suject to copyright?

    A key cannot be copyrighted under any circumstances, whatever its length.

    The reason for this is that, in all western jurisdictions, copyright can be vested only in copyrightable works, which are defined as original works of authorship. A machine-generated random number can never, under any circumstances, be an original work of authorship. Its very randomness precludes it --- it clearly has not been "authored" under prevailing interpretations of the word.

    The length of an item does however have some small relevance, although only in the sense of precluding application of copyright even further. The shorter the key, the less it can claim to be unique, and thus even the claim of originality falters.

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  222. Re:Repeating the number is fine...but not the issu by owlstead · · Score: 1

    Yes, it is, but only because you decided to have this look at slashdot. There are many bytes on your computer, but the chances of one being this number is astronomically low. It's like storing each and every possible chess board on your computer. If decrypting was so easy, it would mean that traveling all data on your computer and decrypting with it would break the scheme. In real life though, 128 bit AES keys are unbreakable (if used correctly of course).

  223. DNS? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    I already have that magic number stuffed into dozens of DNS caches now.

    http://09f911029d74e35bd84156c56356.rm-f.net/

    now I wonder if people are caching my host for a very long time if it will result in the DNS operators getting nasty letters?

    Also what if we register a TLD? does the registrar get a nasty letter?

    --
    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
  224. I love it! by acordova · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Information wants to be free. It's impossible to delete information from the internet. I find that to be the most heartening benefit of the internet to mankind - that information, once discovered, can never truly be censored and taken away again. Attempts at censorship will only accelerate the spread, as is evident in this story.

  225. What about other numbers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would everyone be this supportive of a website posting a different list of numbers? I'm sure someone out there could post credit card or social security numbers. I mean, these are just numbers, and names are just strings of characters. Surely no one could object to them being published. That would be censorship!

  226. Pathetic by acordova · · Score: 2, Funny

    How many millions does the entertainment industry have to lose before it learns that these incredibly lame attempts at security through obscurity are destined to fail, especially when the technology is in the hands of hundreds of people technically capable of defeating it independently with no other motivation than to say they did it?

  227. Al your Base by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    belong to us...

    Hada do that one anon!

  228. In Ancient Rome... by MrSteveSD · · Score: 1

    RIAA, Potes meos suaviari clunes!

    ix ccil xvii ii clvii cxvi ccxxvii xci ccxvi lxv lxxxvi cxcvii ic lxxxvi cxxxvi cxcii


    P.S. Slashdot does not like long Roman numbers. It thinks you are shouting and stops your post.

    1. Re:In Ancient Rome... by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      Primum, est Motionis Picturae Associatio Americae non Scriptionis* Musicae Associatio Americae.
      Secundum, non poto eos velle tuos suaviari clunes.
      Tertium, da posti multam faecem et filtrum sinet tuum nuntium perire.

      *Can't think of a way to describe recording, given that the Romans didn't have musical recording

      --
      Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
  229. Nice precedence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If we could only find out what email the mpaa or whoever sent to digg said to get the story pulled we could have some fun if we slightly modified it.

    Who's up for censoring the use of 1337 because we used it to encrypt our pr0n?

  230. base 8 by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

    1176210402472723432675

    --
    -William
    God is everything science has yet to explain.
  231. no US free speech? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    looks like to have a fair view of United states laws and policy, you will have to go to a server hosted outside the US. irony for the "home of the Free".

  232. former digger by mikejanssen · · Score: 0, Redundant

    hello slashdot!@!

  233. Is this illegal? by WhiteWolf666 · · Score: 1

    These lines are only here to beat the whitespace filter. The whitespace filter is your friend. Trust the whitespace filter. It loves you. Slashdot loves you. Be the whitespace filter. Filter whitespace. White filterspace. Space filter's white. More nonsense. Even more silly nonsense.

      F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    09 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    09 F9 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    09 F9 11 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    09 F9 11 02 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    09 F9 11 02 9D E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 C5 63 56 88 C0
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 63 56 88 C0
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 56 88 C0
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 88 C0
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 C0
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88

    There isn't a single copyrighted line there. In fact, I don't believe there is as copyright line in any direction. Furthermore, each line is a minimum of 1/16th different from the actual copyrighted "text", which is more than the 5% rule that general applies to fair use.

    This is my art. It's a drawing using glyphs. It's fair use, and the MPAA can shove it.

    I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to work on real ASCII art using similar sorts of stupidity; nevertheless, copyright does not apply (not to mention the absurdity of copyrighting a number to begin with).

    --
    WhiteWolf666 an exBush supporter. All you new-school,compassionate,save the children Republicans can rot in hell
    1. Re:Is this illegal? by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      What 5% rule?

  234. Now what? by Maeric · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Obviously we have the processing key already mentioned. Now what is that supposed to do for the average person? Is there a program that takes advantage of it out yet?

  235. TXT Records by David_W · · Score: 1

    For another suggestion on how to proliferate this number, if you own a domain, stick it in a TXT record. hdkey.example.com anyone?

  236. code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    // Processing Key
    static unsigned char processing_key[16] = {0x09,0xF9,0x11,0x02,0x9D,0x74,0xE3,0x5B,0xD8,0x41 ,0x56,0xC5,0x63,0x56,0x88,0xC0}; // Encrypted C Value
    static unsigned char encrypted_c_value[16] = {0x6D,0x02,0xCA,0xC6,0x7B,0x1A,0x7E,0x95,0xC2,0x16 ,0xEF,0xD4,0xC9,0x28,0x09,0xCF}; //Decrypted C Value
    static unsigned char decrypted_c_value[16];
    static unsigned char uv[4] = {0x00,0x00,0x00,0x01}; // Media Key
    static unsigned char media_key[16]; //Encrypted Verification Data (King Kong)
    static unsigned char encrypted_verification_data[16] = {0x87,0xB8,0xA2,0xB7,0xC1,0x0B,0x9F,0xAD,0xF8,0xC4 ,0x36,0x1E,0x23,0x86,0x59,0xE5}; //Decrypted Verification Data Should Be
    static unsigned char decrypted_verification_data_should_be[8] = {0x01,0x23,0x45,0x67,0x89,0xAB,0xCD,0xEF}; //Decrypted Verification Data
    static unsigned char decrypted_verification_data[16]; // Volume ID
    static unsigned char volume_id[16] = {0x40,0x00,0x09,0x18,0x20,0x06,0x08,0x41,0x00,0x20 ,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x00,0x00}; //Decrypted Volume ID
    static unsigned char decrypted_volumeid[16]; //Volume Unique Key
    static unsigned char volume_unqiue_key[16]; // First decrypt the C-value with the processing key
    oRijndael.MakeKey((char *)processing_key, CRijndael::sm_chain0, 16, 16);
    oRijndael.DecryptBlock((char *)encrypted_c_value, (char *)decrypted_c_value); // Then XOR it with with the uv (of the corresponding C-value)
    for (j = 0; j 16; j++)
    {
    if (j 12)
    {
    media_key[j] = decrypted_c_value[j];
    }
    else
    {
    media_key[j] = decrypted_c_value[j]^uv[j-12];
    }
    } // Then check if the resulting media key is correct using the verify media key record
    oRijndael.MakeKey((char *)media_key, CRijndael::sm_chain0, 16, 16);
    oRijndael.DecryptBlock((char *)encrypted_verification_data, (char *)decrypted_verification_data);

    if (!memcmp(decrypted_verification_data_should_be, decrypted_verification_data, 8))
    {
    for (j = 0; j 16; j++)
    {
    printf("%02X ", decrypted_verification_data[j]);
    }
    }
    printf("\n"); // Then do a AES-G (basicly a decrypt and an XOR) on the media key + volumeID
    oRijndael.MakeKey((char *)media_key, CRijndael::sm_chain0, 16, 16);
    oRijndael.DecryptBlock((char *)volume_id, (char *)decrypted_volumeid);

  237. Googlebomb needed? by KWTm · · Score: 1

    How might one set up a Googlebomb? I think that's an appropriate response to trying to censor 09f9-1102 9d74-e35b d841-56c5 6356-88c0, so that we can't cdzrherntphpqjwetxeqjggpvkq our freedom of speech.

    --
    404555974007725459910684486621289147856453481154 in hex is "You sank my Battleship?"
    [GPG key in journal]
  238. Facebook by repvik · · Score: 1

    There's a facebook group too now. Wonder how long it'll last ;-)

  239. What now? by baomike · · Score: 1


    OK I got the number tatooed on my arm, now what do I do?

  240. Sales of HDDVD movies will now increase... by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 1

    ... as all the Linux geeks rush out and buy a drive and a movie just so they can watch the movie on Linux then boast about it to their friend.

  241. The Internet interprets censorship as damage... by venomkid · · Score: 1

    ...and routes around it.

    -- John Gilmore

    --
    vk.
  242. a better one by asCii88 · · Score: 0

    zero nine eff nine one one zero two nine de seven four e three five be de eight four one five six ce five six three five six eight eich ce zero

  243. WOW by zakeria · · Score: 0

    thats amazing its the same as my hotmail password!!!

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

  244. RE: Say Hello to Jack for Me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  245. Digg by loconet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Digg really screwed up this time. At the time of this posting their whole front-page is plastered with key related articles sharing the hex in various ways. Not to mention the other dozens of upcoming stories going up the digg rankings within minutes. The chaos reminds me of IRC channel take overs back in the day. This is truly a digital revolt. Today I am proud to be a geek.

    --
    [alk]
    1. Re:Digg by 123BeefBowl · · Score: 1

      I wonder what would happen if all the people who took the effort to flood digg with this key used that power to raise awareness for something else, for example the genocide in Darfur.

    2. Re:Digg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing much, probably. The American populace has very little control over their own government, if you haven't noticed Bush's abysmal ratings.

    3. Re:Digg by 123BeefBowl · · Score: 1

      Did you see that Digg is now shut down! I feel like I've just lived through some sort of revolution, or seen the beginning of one.

  246. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted - Then why DMCA Takedown? by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 1

    Does the DMCA make provisions for a takedown notice to be given for a circumvention tool? My memory of it is that it is just for copyrighted works. Not other things, like a circumvention tool. Or, say, a patent violation.

    I'd be more than happy to be wrong, but I just don't remember that being one of the legitimate uses of a DMCA takedown notice.

  247. Oh, how creative by Schlemphfer · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    yeah, let's mod up internet profiteering on a lame-ass design sweatshop item where the profits apparently don't even go to an anti-DRM cause.

    --
    I'm generally "Interesting," "Insightful," and even "Funny" here. What the hell happens to me at parties?
    1. Re:Oh, how creative by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

      You are perfectly free to market your own t-shirt, produced in a non-sweatshop environment, by unionized employees, with full benefits, and profits all going to EFF or other suitable organizations.

      That is, of you have the time, what with all your anti-DRM/RIAA/MPAA activities.

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    2. Re:Oh, how creative by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

      I, for one, LOVE paying $1200 for a t-shirt!

      (My dad, the Teamster, will now try to hit me with a brick, in good old union fashion).

    3. Re:Oh, how creative by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

      Tell me about it. My father was an organizer for the United Mine Workers, District 50, a catch-all for workers not represented by other unions. Everything from people working in nuclear plants to those working in fish processing plants.

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  248. Censorship not effective: Front page of Digg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every single article on the front page of Digg relates to the key at the current time:

    I Am Thinking Of A T-Shirt With A Number - article on the key
    Illegal haiku? - haiku on the key
    "Digg Banned me for Typing a Number!" - article on being banned upon posting the key
    Digg Accepts HD-DVD Sponsorship Dollars - article on Digg conflict of interest on the key
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 bottles of beer on the wall - article on the key
    BREAKING: Digg Founders Accepted Money From HD-DVD Group! - article on Digg's conflict of interest on the key
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 - the key again
    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 - the key another time
    The Censorship of Information Cannot Succeed (security through Obscurity) - another link to the key
    Detailed Account of How the HD-DVD proccessing key was found - how the key was found
    A Colorful Take on the HD-DVD Code - stegonagraphic version of the key
    IP Version 6, with 128bit IPs - the key as an IPv6 IP
    Digg, this number is ALSO MAGIC! 594852031564777664 is the second half! - the key in two parts and in decimal
    Digg, this number is MAGIC! 11497989095545517501 (NOT KIDDING. READ DESC.) - another magic number
    Favorite new numbers - the key again.

  249. I wonder... by Zaatxe · · Score: 1

    ...if the sequence "4 8 15 16 23 42" is copyrighted as well...

    --
    So say we all
  250. Put the number in your user agent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For extra fun, you can put the number in your user agent string. Since plenty of server logs are public, the number will be in lots of log files all over the place.

    In Firefox, you can append a comment to the default existing user-agent string, by visiting about:config and adding a string property with the key general.useragent.extra.firefoxComment

    Whatever you put in there is added to the end of the user agent string that is sent with every request your browser makes. Mine is now:

    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070426 Firefox/2.0.0.3 Version 13,256,278,887,989,457,651,018,865,901,401,704,640

    Thanks to ludwik on digg for the suggestion.

    1. Re:Put the number in your user agent by kimvette · · Score: 1

      . . . then do what I did: visit mpaa.org :D

      Visit this page in particular: http://www.mpaa.org/piracy_OptDisk.asp

      --
      The Christian Right is Neither (Christian nor right). See: Matthew 23, Matthew 25, Ezekiel 16:48-50
    2. Re:Put the number in your user agent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a great way to leave a public footprint of sites you have visited, since only a small numebr of people will do this and within many patches of the net you will be the only one.

    3. Re:Put the number in your user agent by asninn · · Score: 1

      Similarly, in SeaMonkey, you can set general.useragent.misc, for example.

      --
      butter the donkey
    4. Re:Put the number in your user agent by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      From that link:

      Much like downloadable media, the pirated motion pictures in hard goods format are typically poor quality video camera recordings.

      Oh really? So why are they so terrified of it? (Maybe because it's more likely high-quality DVD rips?)

      --
      Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
  251. BROWN by ganjadude · · Score: 1

    Its funny that you guys bring up brown. I never really gave him a chance but I am literally reading page 545 right now in his book Angels and Demons and i have not put the book down since last night. I haven't enjoyed a book this much in ages but if you guys are talking about this other guy I have yet to hear of and you say he makes brown look like a childs book writter ill be giving him a chance. Can anyone recommend a book to start with?

    --
    have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
    1. Re:BROWN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you mean Neal Stephenson, try the one being mentioned here: Cryptonomicon
      It's pretty thick, so it should last for a while. :)

      If you meant Umberto Eco, I can't help you there. I had false starts with a couple of his books. They were translated from Italian and I found the translation really trying. They weren't fun to read. Perhaps the translation is that bad, perhaps it's because English is my second language. I keep hearing good things about Focault's Pendulum, though. Maybe one of these days, I'll give it a shot.

    2. Re:BROWN by plover · · Score: 1

      "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (google for it) is far and away his best work, IMHO. It set the hook deeper and faster than any other book I've read. But you'll probably want to read it fairly soon; the cultural references are still quite funny, but are beginning to feel a bit dated.

      --
      John
  252. A key is not a copyrightable work of authorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Copyright is applicable only to copyrightable works, which are quite universally defined as original works of authorship. But therein lies the problem.

    A key is, by design, a random number picked out of a very large keyspace. Its randomness is its guarantee of immunity against cryptoanalysis, and if that keyspace were not uniformly dense (and hence the number not random) then the security provided by the key would be poor. So keys are very random.

    But this randomness ensures that the key can never be a work of authorship, since random generation is virtually the opposite of authorship. After all, authorship is quite precisely described as the defining of distinct shape or form, ie. the opposite of creating randomness.

    This places keys very much outside the domain of copyright. They're simply not copyrightable works.

    It should be noted though that the MPAA is not claiming copyright on the keys (which would be really dumb), but only claiming that their publication constitutes circumvention of a copyright protection device. The copyright in question is that on the protected media item, and not on the key.

  253. Back to Slashdot... by Skates1616 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    After giving up on Slashdot a little less than a year ago, I am back now to truly appreciating what I had! I look forward to the years to come...

  254. Please think of the kittens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3686/psakittymk 8.jpg

    My wireless internet doesnt work, I am using 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 as WPA key, and got a D-Link 802.11n card on 2.4.21, what is wrong?

    I am using the 2.6.21-git4 kernel, and I think that I have found a bug in /dev/random. Whenever I do "cat /dev/random", it spits out "09F911029D74E35BD84156C5635688C0"

    $ ping6 09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0
    unknown host

  255. One way to do it: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Subtract each byte from 0xFF

    F6 06 EE FD 62 8B 1C A4 27 BE A9 3A 9C A9 77 3F

  256. An interesting SVG vector path! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
    <svg
    xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"
    xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"
    version="1.0"
    width="522.74048"
    height="9.12012">
    <g
    transform="translate(-88.571426,-348.95636)">
    <path
    d="M 98.17128,348.95636 L 88.571426,348.95636 L 88.571426,358.07648 L 98.17128,358.07648 L 98.17128,348.95636 z M 96.251602,350.8764 L 96.251602,356.15643 L 90.49147,356.15643 L 90.49147,350.8764 L 96.251602,350.8764 z M 107.78285,358.07648 L 109.70253,358.07648 L 109.70253,348.95636 L 100.10268,348.95636 L 100.10268,354.23639 L 107.78285,354.23639 L 107.78285,358.07648 z M 102.02272,352.31635 L 102.02272,350.8764 L 107.78285,350.8764 L 107.78285,352.31635 L 102.02272,352.31635 z M 132.76503,354.23639 L 132.76503,352.31635 L 125.08522,352.31635 L 125.08522,350.8764 L 132.76503,350.8764 L 132.76503,348.95636 L 123.16518,348.95636 L 123.16518,358.07648 L 125.08522,358.07648 L 125.08522,354.23639 L 132.76503,354.23639 z M 142.3766,358.07648 L 144.29628,358.07648 L 144.29628,348.95636 L 134.69643,348.95636 L 134.69643,354.23639 L 142.3766,354.23639 L 142.3766,358.07648 z M 136.61647,352.31635 L 136.61647,350.8764 L 142.3766,350.8764 L 142.3766,352.31635 L 136.61647,352.31635 z M 157.75893,350.8764 L 159.67897,350.8764 L 159.67897,358.07648 L 161.59901,358.07648 L 161.59901,348.95636 L 157.75893,348.95636 L 157.75893,350.8764 z M 163.52455,350.8764 L 165.4446,350.8764 L 165.4446,358.07648 L 167.36464,358.07648 L 167.36464,348.95636 L 163.52455,348.95636 L 163.52455,350.8764 z M 190.42128,348.95636 L 180.82143,348.95636 L 180.82143,358.07648 L 190.42128,358.07648 L 190.42128,348.95636 z M 188.5016,350.8764 L 188.5016,356.15643 L 182.74147,356.15643 L 182.74147,350.8764 L 188.5016,350.8764 z M 192.35268,348.95636 L 192.35268,350.8764 L 200.03285,350.8764 L 200.03285,352.31635 L 192.35268,352.31635 L 192.35268,358.07648 L 201.95253,358.07648 L 201.95253,356.15643 L 194.27272,356.15643 L 194.27272,354.23639 L 201.95253,354.23639 L 201.95253,348.95636 L 192.35268,348.95636 z M 223.09535,358.07648 L 225.01503,358.07648 L 225.01503,348.95636 L 215.41518,348.95636 L 215.41518,354.23639 L 223.09535,354.23639 L 223.09535,358.07648 z M 217.33522,352.31635 L 217.33522,350.8764 L 223.09535,350.8764 L 223.09535,352.31635 L 217.33522,352.31635 z M 236.54628,358.07648 L 236.54628,356.15643 L 234.6266,348.95636 L 226.94643,348.95636 L 226.94643,358.07648 L 236.54628,358.07648 z M 228.86647,350.8764 L 233.10243,350.8764 L 234.50648,356.15643 L 228.86647,356.15643 L 228.86647,350.8764 z M 250.00893,348.95636 L 250.00893,350.8764 L 257.6891,350.8764 L 257.6891,358.07648 L 259.60878,358.07648 L 259.60878,348.95636 L 250.00893,348.95636 z M 263.46022,348.95636 L 261.54018,348.95636 L 261.54018,354.23639 L 269.22035,354.23639 L 269.22035,358.07648 L 271.14003,358.07648 L 271.14003,348.95636 L 269.22035,348.95636 L 269.22035,352.31635 L 263.46022,352.31635 L 263.46022,348.95636 z M 294.20253,354.23639 L 294.20253,352.31635 L 286.52272,352.31635 L 286.52272,350.8764 L 294.20253,350.8764 L 294.20253,348.95636 L 284.60268,348.95636 L 284.60268,358.07648 L 294.20253,358.07648 L 294.20253,356.15643 L 286.52272,356.15643 L 286.52272,354.23639 L 294.20253,354.23639 z M 296.13393,348.95636 L 296.13393,350.8764 L 303.8141,350.8764 L 303.8141,352.31635 L 296.13393,352.31635 L 296.13393,354.23639 L 303.8141,354.23639 L 303.8141,356.15643 L 296.13393,356.15643 L 296.13393,358.07648 L 305.73378,358.07648 L 305.73378,348.95636 L 296.13393,348.95636 z M 321.11647,352.31635 L 321.11647,350.8764 L 328.79628,350.8764 L 328.79628,348.95636 L 319.19643,348.95636 L 319.19643,354.23639 L 326.8766,354.23639 L 326.8766,356.15643 L 319.19643,356.15643 L 319.19643,358.07648 L 328.79628,358.07648 L 328.79628,352.31635 L 321.11647,352.31635 z M 340.32753,352.31635 L 338.40785,352.31635 L 338.40785,348.95636 L 330.72768,348.95636 L 330.72768,358.07648 L 340.32753,358.076

  257. s/.com/.org/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    s/.com/.org/

  258. D'OH!!! World of Warcraft didn't work afterall... by Rooked_One · · Score: 1

    too many of us playing BF2 and tribes.

  259. Binary by RKBA · · Score: 1

    10011111100100010001000000101001110101110100111000 1101011011110\
    11000010000010101011011000101011000110101011010001 00011000000

  260. My clever viral marketing scheme is working by SlappyBastard · · Score: 1

    By Memorial Day everyone will be talking about my movie, titled "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0". Brilliant!

    --
    I scream. You scream. I assume that means we're both acquainted with the problem. We proceed.
  261. Re:Not very long... - Censorship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Wikipedia is discussing the speedy-delete done to the article about the number. Looks like Wikipedia may end up censoring the article because of fears about future censorship due to the DMCA.

  262. A key is not a circumvention device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're just confusing the issue by talking about the Java program.

    Much clearer would be to note that the key itself is not a copyright circumvention device, otherwise valid possession of the key and its use to provide access to the media content would constitute circumvention. Well it doesn't, because there is no such thing as permitted circumvention in the DMCA. (A tool that extracted keys would be a circumvention device --- that's quite different.)

    So since the key isn't a circumvention device, and since it does not itself carry copyright since a key is not a copyrightable work, and since the copyrighted item is not itself on the sites in question, the MPAA is on very shakey ground with its takedown notices. In fact, it's not even shakey, logically it's entirely non-existent.

    But of course, this being the real world, and judges being corrupt pillars of the establishment, I have no doubt that the takedown notices would have the backing of many a wholly-owned judge if it came to the crunch. They'd have to invent some sort of contributory infringement to justify it though.

  263. Lets do this old school by jeremyds · · Score: 1

    10 PRINT "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0"
    20 GOTO 10

    1. Re:Lets do this old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even more oldschool:

      ORA #$F9
      ORA ($02),Y
      STA $E374,X
      .db $5B
      CLD
      EOR ($56,X)
      CMP $63
      LSR $88,X
      .db $C0

    2. Re:Lets do this old school by mattmatt · · Score: 1

      How about (courtesy of /usr/bin/morse)

      daw daw daw daw daw / daw daw daw daw dit

      dit dit daw dit / daw daw daw daw dit

      dit daw daw daw daw / dit daw daw daw daw

      daw daw daw daw daw / dit dit daw daw daw

      daw daw daw daw dit / daw dit dit

      daw daw dit dit dit / dit dit dit dit daw

      dit / dit dit dit daw daw

      dit dit dit dit dit / daw dit dit dit

      daw dit dit / daw daw daw dit dit

      dit dit dit dit daw / dit daw daw daw daw

      dit dit dit dit dit / daw dit dit dit dit

      daw dit daw dit / dit dit dit dit dit

      daw dit dit dit dit / dit dit dit daw daw

      dit dit dit dit dit / daw dit dit dit dit

      daw daw daw dit dit / daw daw daw dit dit

      daw dit dit dit / dit

      dit dit dit daw dit daw


      [Arg! Damn you lameness filter! It's only a little bit lame.]

  264. Is this number the new 666? by cyclocommuter · · Score: 1

    Looks like corporations bent on ramming DRM down our collective throats is painting this hex code as the devil's...

  265. Dear Slashdot & kdawnson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been hanging here since mid/late '90s when yous became known in the net. I posted more than my share of "you guys went down the hill, lost quality/focus and suck," but this one tells me there is still something special in yous, and that's good to know. Keep it up and cheers.

    AC

    (hah, try to value that as a "good will" item in your book)

  266. The Song by Sir+Codelot · · Score: 3, Interesting
    --
    I have a truly marvelous proof of the Riemann hypothesis which this sig is too short to contain...
  267. Patented the number 42 by RKBA · · Score: 1

    Great news! I just received a patent from uspto.gov on the number "42". Henceforth, anyone using this number in full, or as part of an embedded string of numbers, is now required by law to pay whatever I want to charge for the use of that number. Note that any and all program output data containing this number is subject to the same royalty payments and severe FBI penalties including imprisonment and fines as high as $42 for using this number without permission!

  268. There are 10 types of people in the world... by craznar · · Score: 1

    00110000001110010100011000111001001100010011000100 11000000110010001110010100010000110111001101000100 01010011001100110101010000100100010000111000001101 00001100010011010100110110010000110011010100110110 00110011001101010011011000111000001110000100001100 11000000100000

    --
    EMail: 0110001101100010010000000110001101110010 0110000101111010011011100110000101110010 0010111001100011011011110110
  269. Digg is dead by Dracos · · Score: 1

    Jack Valenti dies, and he's still being an evil greedy prick. Digg is dead too, long live freedom of speech. Kevin Rose knows the DMCA is stupid, and yet he is so pliable to the will of those who authored it, and I don't means Congressmen.

    Everyone should put this set of hex values everywhere they can. How long until someone posts a complete list of all 26 bit hex numbers, thereby exposing all their encryption keys?

  270. SONG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    check out the song with the number as lyrics, its catchy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9HaNbsIfp0

  271. The key as a numbers station by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://rapidshare.com/files/29008644/aacs-processi ng-key.mp3.html Subtract 256 from each tone's frequency and convert to hex.

  272. Illegal Prime by The+Moof · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the Illegal Prime.

  273. Now for something completely different by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    I wonder if you'd get busted passing around this one:

    The trouble there is that it's the same number, so if they have any case at all, different basings aren't going to help.

    But what if it were not a number at all? In fact something completely different? Something like:

        O9 F9 ll OZ 9D 74 E3 SB D8 4l S6 CS 63 S6 88 CO

    where more than a quarter of the digits aren't even valid hex codes and which would not work as an copyright circumvention device?

    In fact, I've used such a key to protect some of my work, copyrighted under the Berne Convention provisos. The Base-64 encoded blowfish version of it looks like:

        U2FsdGVkX1/X4710Fa0f8omVneZXGl/JrzAX+8Mcliw70JEYDQ tj4VQBboQRNmJK

    at least according to 'openssl enc -bf-cbc -a', but don't you dare circumvent my copyright protections.

    --
    My God, it's Full of Source!
    OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
  274. Re:Repeating the number is fine...but not the issu by toddestan · · Score: 1

    There are many bytes on your computer, but the chances of one being this number is astronomically low.

    I would normally agree, however, anyone visiting slashdot today likely has it sitting in their browser's cache, multiple times.

  275. The key is not a circumvention device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it were, then you'd be circumventing the copyright protection each time that you played the DVD on a legal player, and that would be illegal, since there is no such thing as permitted circumvention.

    A circumvention device as defined by the DMCA would be a tool that extracts keys, or gains access to the content by other means, but it's not the key itself.

    They could however claim quite validly that the key is a trade secret. Events have made that rather moot now though, seeing as Google currently has 281,000 links to pages detailing the "secret".

  276. Come on people, seed! by quokkapox · · Score: 2, Interesting

    41

    --
    it's a blue bright blue Saturday hey hey
  277. George by GreatNickName · · Score: 1

    Remember that Seinfeld episode where George wanted to name his kid 7? Well, I think I know what I want to name my first kid now. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0.

  278. Impossible by TibbonZero · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Men who read slashdot can't reproduce for two reasons:

    1) The radiation from their computer screens and blackberries have made them sterile (natural selection at work)

    2) Even if #1 was not failed, they would be unable to have a wife/girlfriend/concubine that would willingly breed with them!

    --
    Tibbon
    tibbon.com
    1. Re:Impossible by garaged · · Score: 1

      that makes me a non-geek person, thanks TibbonZero !!

      --
      I'm positive, don't belive me look at my karma
  279. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted - Then why DMCA Takedown? by GreatNickName · · Score: 1

    As far as I can tell, anyone can post the key as much as they want. I know what the key is, but I don't have a clue how to circumvent the copy protection, and I don't want to know. Therefore, the DMCA should only be taking down websites that explain HOW to use the key to circumvent the copy protection, not just websites that contain the key.

  280. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted - Then why DMCA Takedown? by lorcha · · Score: 1

    Is it confirmed that takedown notices were even issued? Or is that just speculation?

    For all we know, the MPAA just made a few phone calls threatening lawsuits.

    --
    "Avoid employing unlucky people - throw half of the pile of CVs in the bin without reading them." -- David Brent
  281. Corrupt? by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

    I repudiate the DMCA, and all who would enforce it. It is a corrupt law, born of a corrupt process, in the service of corrupt people. As such, I will not respect or observe it, and you shouldn't, either.
    Are you sure? I remember this article was posted here a while back. It basically said that the "DMCA architect" admitted that he had failed in creating the DMCA. Corrupt? No. Inept? Most definitely.

    Besides, it isn't illegal by any measure to post a number on the internet.
    --
    You know, there is a difference between trolling and pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Just saying.
  282. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted - Then why DMCA Takedown? by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

    It not only provides takedown-notice-go-ahead for circumvention tools, it proides takedown-notive-go-ahead for *linking* to circumvention tools.

    --

    --

    WHO ATE MY BREAKFAST PANTS?
  283. As Chazz and Jimmy say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  284. A new intellectual breakthrough by dsutton · · Score: 1

    for the sake of academic posterity, I have invented a new language, not unlike a hex version of Esperanto. Curiously enough, the sequence "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" translates to "The MPAA needs to get a clue"

  285. Make that three by coder111 · · Score: 1

    Umberto Eko rules. I give Focault's Pendulum for my friends to read as a test of character :) (Another test of character is playing The Dark Heart of UUKRUL :) And if you cannot manage Focault's Pendulum, I highly recommend "The Name of the Rose". Both the book and the movie are wonderful.

    And Neil Stephenson is quite good too. Best cyberpunk I've read in years.

    And Dan Brown? I read Da Vinci Code after I read Eko, and the book SUCKED. Othere than "OMG OMG Jesus had a wife and kids !!!1" there was nothing to it.

    --Coder

  286. spam word by adpowers · · Score: 1

    Now "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" is in the WP spam filter and you can't post it on any page. Lame.

  287. Getting there... by ZombieRoboNinja · · Score: 1

    When I type in "09 f9" (minus quotes) in Firefox's Google Search, it auto-suggests the full key.

  288. That one sucks, try this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, that text is barely readable.

    This one makes it nice and clear: https://www.goodstorm.com/item/sean_morrisey/09f91 1029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0 :)

  289. backup hd dvd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does any one has the backup hdd dvd? I have it this is the link http://rapidshare.com/files/29024163/BackupHDDVD.z ip -You have to populate your TKDB.cfg file with proper key for it to work... -juste type "BackupHDDVD f: e:\movies\mymovie" Where "f:" is the source drive and "e:\movies\mymovie" is the destination directory. Enjoy!

  290. digg turned into a common serial site very quick. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You only need a machine's key to play back hd material, a huge lapse in judgment by the company who made the protection. Posting the code is practically the same thing as posting the key for a copyrighted dvd. The original cracker of the dvd's protection got in trouble for something similar.

    http://blog.digg.com/?p=74?

    The founder of digg himself decided to fly in the face of law, I'd like to see more "Digg this serial" posts for people's favorite applications or dvds, and continue this thread of fun. Happy Posting!

  291. Summary & 5-color ribbons by Anthony+Boyd · · Score: 1

    I started a page for this, here. It includes a link to a page with graphics that use the hex values of the "secret code." While I'm pretty sure my 5-color ribbons are using the hex values correctly, I am not certain that I wrote up my summary of the five colors campaign correctly. Can anyone double-check that I have correctly summed up the issues? I will correct the text if it is inaccurate.

  292. Numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They couldn't fault you for having two 16 character hex numbers could they? It's not like they are the same as the other. The other is one value, these are two completely diffent values.

    0F1097E5D45C658C
    9912D43B81653680

  293. UUID {0211F909-749D-5BE3-D841-56C5635688C0} by rdebath · · Score: 1

    {0211F909-749D-5BE3-D841-56C5635688C0}

    It's a version 5, care to guess that the string was before hashing ..

  294. Re:Key Isn't Copyrighted - Then why DMCA Takedown? by SharpFang · · Score: 1

    Except it's not a CIRCUMVENTION tool, it's an ACCESS tool. For your house door, a lockpick is a circumvention tool, a key is an access tool.

    It's the same code that a player uses. If you bought a HD-DVD player, you own exactly the same key. Location (inside the player or on your T-shirt) is completely irrelevant. And no provision disallows you from spreading it.

    Sure there are circumvention tools which are useless without it. But if the key is illegal, all HD-DVD players containing it are illegal too. There are no "legal inside, illegal outside" provisions.

    --
    45 5F E1 04 22 CA 29 C4 93 3F 95 05 2B 79 2A B2
  295. Just how stupid are the MPAA? by xenobyte · · Score: 1

    Exactly how long did they expect it to take before their takedowns were rumoured on the net, for instance here on /. ?

    Exactly how long after that did they expect it to take before a gazillion nerds made sure that 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 were everywhere on the net - and then some?

    Exactly how stupid are the MPAA?

    Let me quote the old cyberpunk mantra: "INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FREE". What part of that don't they understand?

    --
    "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) --
  296. Let's start a RELIGION by jesterpilot · · Score: 1

    Now it's time to start a religion, since we all know by heart and by revelation, the entire universe was created by holy hex numbers, with 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 being the loving mother of all holy numbers. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 loves you, open your heart for 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0, or be damned forever.

    --
    Trust me, I work for the government.
  297. MPAA expressions by chongo · · Score: 1
    I wonder if the MPAA will censor these expressions:
    • 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 2 * 5 * 19 * 12043 * 216493 * 836256503069278983442067
    • int(exp(85.477534666311821706344693033763054036780 258841))
    • int(tan(1.5707963267948966192313216916397514420231 48749037327327204052898028418844448835))
    • int(cosh(86.17068184687176701576192515522123060485 5759))
    • 1657034860998682206377358237675213082^2 - 1657034860998682206377358237675213078^2
    • 828517430499341103188679118837606544^2 - 828517430499341103188679118837606536^2
    • 414258715249670551594339559418803278^2 - 414258715249670551594339559418803262^2
    • 331406972199736441275471647535042626^2 - 331406972199736441275471647535042606^2
    • 207129357624835275797169779709401651^2 - 207129357624835275797169779709401619^2
    • 165703486099868220637735823767521328^2 - 165703486099868220637735823767521288^2
    • 87212361105193800335650433561853358^2 - 87212361105193800335650433561853282^2
    • 82851743049934110318867911883760694^2 - 82851743049934110318867911883760614^2
    • 43606180552596900167825216780926736^2 - 43606180552596900167825216780926584^2
    • 41425871524967055159433955941880407^2 - 41425871524967055159433955941880247^2
    • 21803090276298450083912608390463482^2 - 21803090276298450083912608390463178^2
    • 17442472221038760067130086712370854^2 - 17442472221038760067130086712370474^2
    • 10901545138149225041956304195231969^2 - 10901545138149225041956304195231361^2
    • 8721236110519380033565043356185712^2 - 8721236110519380033565043356184952^2
    • 4360618055259690016782521678093426^2 - 4360618055259690016782521678091906^2
    • 2180309027629845008391260839047853^2 - 2180309027629845008391260839044813^2
    • 137593196130422835371365792407646^2 - 137593196130422835371365792359474^2
    • 68796598065211417685682896239952^2 - 68796598065211417685682896143608^2
    • 34398299032605708842841448192234^2 - 34398299032605708842841447999546^2
    • 27518639226084567074273158597142^2 - 27518639226084567074273158356282^2
    • 17199149516302854421420724240633^2 - 17199149516302854421420723855257^2
    • 13759319613042283537136579479216^2 - 13759319613042283537136578997496^2
    • 7653988170512128366170538222546^2 - 7653988170512128366170537356574^2
    • 7241747164759096598492936898874^2 - 7241747164759096598492935983606^2
    • 6879659806521141768568290100898^2 - 6879659806521141768568289137458^2
    • 3826994085256064183085269760752^2 - 3826994085256064183085268028808^2
    • 3620873582379548299246469135888^2 - 3620873582379548299246467305352^2
    • 3439829903260570884284145773029^2 - 3439829903260570884284143846149^2
    • 1913497042628032091542636179334^2 - 1913497042628032091542632715446^2
    • 1810436791189774149623235940846^2 - 1810436791189774149623232279774^2
    • 1530797634102425673234109722842^2 - 1530797634102425673234105392982^2
    • 1448349432951819319698589576418^2 - 1448349432951819319698585000078^2
    etc. :-)
    --
    chongo (was here) /\oo/\
  298. My own key by 19061969 · · Score: 1

    I have created my own key.

    C0 88 56 63 C5 56 41 D8 5B E3 74 9D 02 11 F9 09

    It's protected by a basic encryption and nobody else has my permission to break it.

    If anyone tries to get me to take it down, does this mean I can apply the DCMA to them for breaking my encryption without authorisation?

    --
    bang goes my karma... again...
  299. As a Python script by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #!/usr/bin/env python
    import sha

    hash = sha.sha()

    hash.update('Veritas vos liberabit')
    key = 0x3d33b97953ece155e9a692696c86b49d932507d6

    digest = eval('0x' + hash.hexdigest())

    print '0' + hex(digest ^ key)[2:-1]

  300. intresting 3,1415926535897932384626433832795 by PermanentMarker · · Score: 1

    Can anyone own a number, the answer is no.
    Numbers are not owned by anyone.
    Can anyone tell someone else a number, Yes three is no patent on numbers.
    But even a program can be written out as a large number.
    So what does this say for software patents.

    I remember a book in which there where monkey's typing random numbers.
    The idea was that there was a change that these monkeys could generate a formula that could describe our world, givin time and change.
    Actualy giving them milions of milions of years they will type that forumula.

    Besides that some physican believe that the world is not random at all, believing that in theory the world could as wel be calculated (we might be in the middle of a simulation), if so then for all you folks posting here, it's just something you did based on this miracle calculation of our "Matrix", so your free will is not to blame here (if it would exist at all) it's just the numbers themself to blame. :)

    Wacko i'm going to pattend 3,1415926535897932384626433832795..... I get rich !!

    --
    I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change.
  301. freedom of expression by chongo · · Score: 1
    If MPAA is the big-endian numerical value of the 4 ASCII characters "MPAA" (i.e., 1297105217), then are these expressions:
    • 4*MPAA^4 + 885876010*MPAA^3 + 221652134*MPAA^2 + 785088213*MPAA + 1217422679
    • int(MPAA^4.073578693322011182314061189254013694917 4402)
    • int(sinh(4.106611812457793227416244950530407697923 5073*ln(MPAA)))
    • int(exp(64.494133803959821971528514666230718672195 108554589) * MPAA)
    • MPAA * 573005406241 * 17835599295426313 + 11 * 73 * 1516093
    • MPAA + 224682693016770468661336710171264397 * 59
    • etc.
    protected under the freedom of expression? :-)
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    chongo (was here) /\oo/\
  302. 6 Degrees of by nuromutt · · Score: 1

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 was in a comment with Turk 182 which was a movie starring Timothy Hutton who was in Taps with Tom Cruise who was in A Few Good Men with Kevin Bacon.

  303. Oblig Spaceballs ref... by sakasune · · Score: 1

    1-2-3-4-5
    Amazingly, same key for my luggage

    --
    "You're arguing for a universe with fewer waffles in it," I said. "I'm prepared to call that cowardice."
  304. it only matters to them because it matters to you by beaverfever · · Score: 1

    "More disturbingly, my story got Dugg twice, with the second wave hitting 15,500 votes, and today I found out it had simply disappeared from Digg. How long until the long arm of the MPAA gets to my own site (run in Ecuador) and the rest of them holding the processing key? How long will we let rampant censorship go on, in the name of economic interest?"

    The MPAA only has power because they are given power by so many people, including those who claim to be opposed to them. The more you want corporate-provided entertainment, the more power you give the MPAA - supply and demand. Why is the crack so important? The crack is only as important as the product, and how important are these products? In the big picture of your life and all the things you can or cannot do, all the things you may or may not accomplish before you are dead, how important is Spiderman 2 or A Weekend at Bernie's or a Family Ties box set? Is a puppet show the most important thing in your life? Why?

    How long will the pointless rebellion go on, in the name of trivial entertainment for the masses? Pick a fight that matters and apply your talents effectively.

  305. Bears more thought than is obvious at first glance by hey! · · Score: 1
    We should reserve the word "censorship" for the suppression of ideas.

    We all believe in freedom of expression, but we also believe that people are allowed to have secrets.

    There is nothing special about your social security number, but the fact that it is associated with you is very important.

    In that context, it is quite reasonable for the industry to be upset about their encryption keys being leaked, although I do not agree with the takedown notices. The reason the take down notices are wrong is that they are pointless, and I believe it is wrong to engage in pointless legal threats. You cannot make a secret key secret again once it has been published.

    There is an underlying problem that is more critical. Many technically savvy people believe entertainment industry to have adopted business models which are bad for the public interest. To make matters worse, there is also a wide consensus among these people that government is unresponsive to the public good and beholden to commercial interests who donate money. As Lord Macaulay noted in his speech on copyright extension, government for the benefit of narrow interests is an invitation to lawlessness:

    Just as the absurd acts which prohibited the sale of game were virtually repealed by the poacher, just as many absurd revenue acts have been virtually repealed by the smuggler, so will this law be virtually repealed by piratical booksellers.


    There is a sickness in our political system which is encouraging normally reasonable people to applaud the publishing of private secrets. It is taken for granted that business and politics are corrupt partners.
    --
    Post may contain irony: discontinue use if experiencing mood swings, nausea or elevated blood pressure.
  306. Yet another... by drakaan · · Score: 1

    zero niner foxtrot niner one one zero two niner delta seven fower echo tree fife bravo delta eight fower one fife six charlie fife six tree fife six eight hotel charlie zero

    --
    "Murphy was an optimist" - O'Toole's commentary on Murphy's Law
  307. 0x09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0 by penp · · Score: 1

    0x09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0? That's the CRC of my luggage!

  308. "Registered Hex Offender" by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

    That's funny, I don't care who you are!

    I could add that to my collection of t-shirts nobody gets.

  309. Looks like Digg is fighitng now by G00F · · Score: 1

    Digg will no longer remove posts containting those numbers, they even posted it themselves

    http://digg.com/tech_news/Digg_This_09_f9_11_02_9d _74_e3_5b_d8_41_56_c5_63_56_88_c0_4

    --
    The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive
  310. it will hunt you down... by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    ... when you are in the weakest form, INT 13 will MOV and JMP on you!

    --
    --- I am known for the ones who want to find me on the net. Is that a privacy risk or a privilege? One might wonder..
  311. So? What is a non-programmer supposed to do now? by eaddict · · Score: 1

    I mean, if you had the next winning lottery numbers I could see using them. What interest does a non-programmer have with this code? What good does it do them?

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  312. Wikipedia entry by Zx-man · · Score: 1

    You might care to know that the relevant Wikipedia is already prevented from being created at the English Wiki.
    Although one can see the code elsewhere on the site.

  313. How about as an image? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /* XPM */
    static char * Untitled_xpm[] = {
    "16 1 16 1",
    "A c #090909",
    "B c #F9F9F9",
    "D c #111111",
    "E c #020202",
    "F c #9D9D9D",
    "V c #747474",
    "H c #E3E3E3",
    "I c #5B5B5B",
    "J c #D8D8D8",
    "K c #414141",
    "L c #565656",
    "N c #C5C5C5",
    "O c #636363",
    "Z c #565656",
    "P c #888888",
    "Q c #C0C0C0",
    "ABDEFVHIJKLNOZPQ"};

  314. In time, grasshopper, in time ... by hummassa · · Score: 1

    some of us (me, for instance) have, my friend -- some of us even have already procreated and we're passing our twisted ways to the next generations...

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    It's better to be the foot on the boot than the face on the pavement. ~~ tkx Kadin2048
    1. Re:In time, grasshopper, in time ... by eMbry00s · · Score: 1

      Hah, I was making a joke on the expense of the Slashdot demographic. I don't want kids for another ten years or so. We'll see.

  315. Re: Leech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    __

  316. Re:no US free speech? by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

    you mean like Slashdot?

    but anyways, "Land of the free? WHOEVER TOLD YOU THAT IS YOUR ENEMY!"

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  317. Conversion by jgoemat · · Score: 1
    That reminds me of an old program I wrote to show converting between data types in c++... I know it runs on Intel processors for sure. This code is copyrighted by me, but anyone can use it for any purpose whatsoever with no limitations.

    #include <stdio.h>

    void main()
    {
    int i;
    unsigned char *chars;
    unsigned int numbers[4] = {0x9dae7636, 0x24bcab32, 0x6a891ea7, 0xff07e9fc};

    chars = (unsigned char *)numbers;
    for (i = 0; i < 16; i++)
    {
    printf("%02x ", ((((unsigned int)chars[i]) & 0x0f) | (((unsigned int)chars[15 - i]) & 0xf0)) ^ 0xff);
    }
    printf("\n");
    }
  318. Safes by Poromenos1 · · Score: 1

    Also, the number for the safest safe is something like 5 minutes, I was rather astonished to see that. That, of course, assumes that you have a whole laboratory full of cracking equipment, but still, 5 minutes for the hardest-to-crack safe strikes me as very fast.

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  319. Decrypting the HD-DVD's... by Aerows · · Score: 1

    ...figuring out the algorithm, and scaring the life out of those abusing the DMCA is infinitely more interesting that watching and/or listening to 95% of the crap they are trying to protect. I submit "Date Movie", "The Wicker Man" and the latest Brittany Spears album as examples of the great entertainment treats they are so desperate to protect.

  320. No no, just a joke, not actually very unusual by Doug+Merritt · · Score: 1

    I am honestly surprised that there are relatively few prime numbers in the factorization. I am also impressed that 836256503069278983442067, which I assume to be prime but do not know a quick way of checking, shows up on a blog posting with the same factorization when searched for on google. This truly is a number worth investigating and needs to be written about at length, posted everywhere, etc. Why so few prime numbers in an otherwise random string of numbers? It is actually interesting that the number is so close in size to such large, again assuming correctness of the assertion, prime numbers.

    No no, I really was just joking (well, and offering a thin but arguable excuse for people to continue to mention the number).

    Contrary to intuition, it is vastly more common than not for large numbers to have relatively few prime factors. This one is not all that atypical compared with what you'd expect to see if it were simply generated randomly. It does have a small surplus of small factors compared with typical, and its second-to-largest and third-to-largest prime factors are mildly unusually close in size (all of which conspires to make the largest prime factor somewhat larger than typical), but those things aren't outright surprising for a random number of this size. It's impossible for every number to be precisely typical.

    The fact that the nearest primes are -27 and +31 away also is not even a little bit surprising, compared with what theory predicts for a typical number.

    All in all, this actually is a completely unremarkable number -- at least in terms of the qualities I stated thus far. If one looked at it extensively, it might turn out to have more unusual properties (are there related Sophie Germain primes, irregular primes, etc. etc. ad infinitum). More than likely it would take quite a while to find something truly worthy of mention, though, with no guarantee of success to reward the effort.

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  321. Re:The T-Shirt (registered hex offender) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  322. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 Is the code to my outlook

  323. Re:The T-Shirt registered hex offender by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  324. i can see the myspace spam now by localhost8080 · · Score: 1

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