I think a lot of corporations are waiting for this feature that have implemented ldap directories. We can't switch to NS6 until there is support in ldap either. The last I heard, it will take a long time. I figure by the time they support ldap in messenger, my computer will be fast enough to run NS6:)
Until then, we'll stick with NS4.76 and Netscape calendar I'm sure...
Not all classes that teach C++, using the free M$ VC++ compiler, focus on the Windows API. I know someone who is taking a class now and the class focuses on objects and algorithms. The Windows API isn't even mentioned in the class, the only programs they are writing are console win32 apps.
Of course, the GNU compiler + a text editor + gdb is the best way to learn how to program. Many colleges use it as a teaching tool, so it's good to learn how to use it early so you don't run into it later on, after using the VC++ compiler for a while. The nice thing about this compiler is that it forces you to learn about makefiles, object files, etc. These types of things are hidden from the programmer in a simple VC++ environment.
not all programs change the interface to display a theme or skin... winamp compatible skins are only bitmap images that sit on top of the interface to give it a polished look. I wish I knew who thought of this skin idea first (nullsoft?), but I thought nullsoft added a great feature to allow people to design skins for their program.
The good thing is automatic mail address collection.......
maybe, but it doesn't support LDAP directory lookups, making it unusable for our business. I really feel that the LDAP lookups of NS4.x were one of its best features. 4.x has much better integration with this directory than any other mail client I have tried. The address book of NS6 really feels like a step down for me. Oh well, the whole program feels like a step down so I guess the address book should too.
hmm, no I run netscape on Windows platforms. I'm sorry but IE sucks... If it didn't integrate with the OS and a company besides M$ created it, then I would like it more. IE doesn't give me enough control. The way that it handles user profiles sucks since your favorites, cache, preferences are scattered all over your machine. Favorites in c:\windows\favorites ? What is this doing in the OS directory.
Of course netscape has problems also, but I think it is the lesser evil. All software sucks anyway, some just sucks more.
As for Netscape 6, it probably will suck unless you really like AOL IM. I just hope that a good, final, lightweight version of mozilla is released so that people can use that instead of netscape 6. Mozilla is going to be very important for linux.
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What I don't like about the M$ Natural keyboard and the M$ Internet keyboards is that they have that strange curvy front to them. Most keyboards are flat in the front, but M$ keyboards seem to be different. The only reason it sucks is that it doesn't fit well into a lot of standard keyboard trays we use.
I guess they sell the Microsoft, Proprietary Keyboard Tray separately for twice as much as a standard one.
We have standardized on Netscape communicator at work as well. I feel that netscape is the better browser than IE because it doesn't integrate itself with the OS. Since we have also standardized on netscape messenger as our email client on all workstations, navigator is an easy choice for our web browser. I don't necessarily like the bloated nature of netscape, but it does have advantages. Even though it takes longer to load initially, separate windows and instances load instantly as long as communicator is still running.
Of course the downside is that if communicator crashes for any reason, it takes your email and all browser windows with it:( So there are tradeoffs, but I still think that it is a great program.
IE is nice and everything, but some operating systems can't use it since M$ won't be porting it to certain systems anytime soon. The nice thing about Mozilla is that it will run on many platforms including GNU/Linux. I'm guessing that IE6 won't be released for anything other than windows or mac.
Even though Netscape does have some lame features such as AOL instant messenger and the shopping button, it isn't that bad. The thing that I really love about Netscape is that it doesn't integrate with the OS like IE does. Separation of the OS and its applications (such as a web browser) is a good thing.
hmm, well it works in 4.75 (if you are referring to the www.starband.com site). The only thing it told me was:
The page you're viewing has information that requires a browser "plug-in", which is available from Netscape's Plug-in Finder. Get the plug-in now, then return to the page to enjoy all it has to offer.
But that's OK, I didn't want to load the plugin anyway (you can go into their main site by using the link). I just thought it was funny that they put the word plug-in in quotes. It reminded me of Austin Powers for some reason.
your OS has very little to do with your FPS in quake3. Last I heard, the drivers for most video cards will allow higher FPS in win9x compared to windows nt / 2000. The reason is that they are more mature and optimized. The fact that Windows 2000 is stable under a load is nice, but every OS can do that. I have never had any problems with my gaming system running Windows 98SE either, but that doesn't mean Windows 98SE it is a good OS:)
I'm complaining about drivers. They really aren't written very well and it seems like major companies were not ready to support windows 2000. HP is a good example, when windows 2000 was released, installing every piece of hardware from HP on a windows 2000 box was an adventure. But this may be fixed now.
This doesn't really matter in a business environment, but at home I don't want to deal with the hardware incompatibilities.
no thanks. I'm happy with by dual-booting (win98se & rh6.2) system. I really don't want to deal with windows 2000 incompatibilities at home. It's bad enough I have to do it at work.
for me HP devices give me the most grief. I have struggled with HP scanners, printers, and CD writers on Win2k. None of them are easy to install.
For example (not really an HP example), trying to install Easy CD Creator + Direct CD is a nightmare on win2k. If you install the wrong version of direct CD and reboot the system, you'll be in for a surprise. better get your recovery disks...
It just didn't seem that HP was ready for Windows 2000. At least they could tell us that their hardware was incompatible instead of claiming 'windows 2000 compatibility'. When I plug in a scanner into a Windows 2000 computer, I don't want to see the BSOD just because the HP drivers suck.
well, there would be a productivity loss... but not for the reasons you listed. It would probably happen because of the lack of a decent office software package for linux. Where I work, we have a lot of people still using 24-32MB Pentium boxes. How do you plan on loading something like KDE2 + star office on this? At least M$ office is modular in that you can open winword without opening excel, thus cutting down on your memory usage.
oh, and winword loads in about 2 seconds. soffice loads in about 30. There is a huge difference in memory usage here that severly affects memory systems.
The reason there is no productivity loss due to users not being able to figure out the OS is that a good sysadmin will setup the box so that it works properly. The end user doesn't need to know any technical details about linux, just how to start the programs that they need. In addition to that, a good sysadmin will also run employees through training so that they DO know how to use linux.
exactly. Just from looking at the screenshot, I can tell you that this is worthless to an experienced FPS gamer. How are you supposed to switch weapons? Even in quake1, there were eight standard weapons. This means that you need at least 6 buttons to switch weapons at your disposal quickly. Then you need one button to jump, two to strafe, one to move backwards.
6+1+2+1 = 10 buttons
And those are just the necessary buttons, you need many more for team messages in games such as CTF.
my binds section of my q1 cfg (I'm too lazy to count, but this claw thing needs more buttons):
bind t "messagemode"
bind y "messagemode2"
bind ` "toggleconsole"
bind c "+jump"
bind x "+moveleft"
bind v "+moveright"
bind space "+back"
bind mouse1 "+attack"
bind mouse2 "+forward"
bind tab "+showscores"
bind pause "pause"
bind f4 myq
bind [ ourq
bind ] enemyq
bind q ping
bind f grapple
bind w flagstatus
bind d rl
bind g lg
bind s snailgun
bind b db
bind 2 shotgun
bind 1 axe
bind 4 nailgun
bind z gl
bind = "say_team acknowledged."
bind - "say_team negative."
bind \ "say_team im on it."
bind [ "say_team enemy quad."
bind ] "say_team our quad."
bind , "say_team im on defense."
bind . "say_team im on offense."
bind f3 "say_team im at quad."
bind f4 "say_team my quad."
bind f5 "say_team check quad."
there is a big difference between a 650MB CD that costs $.50 and a 2GB jaz disk that costs $100. I don't know of any student that can afford one of these JAZ disks.
cost of CD-R media:.07 cents / MB
cost of JAZ media: 5.0 cents / MB
that makes CD-R media 71 times more affordable than jaz media. Oh, and I have never seen a JAZ drive before so compatibility sucks. the choice between the two seems pretty clear to me...
While it wasn't stated in the original post, it should go without saying that whatever solution comes up, it should integrate transparently into the system. You should have no problem saving a word document to the media, nor should you have to go through a major hassle to delete or overwrite files.
Uh, using CD-RW disks IS very transparent. When the admin installs a UDF layer on the client computer, the formatted CD-RW can be used exactly like a big, floppy disk. If the user can drag+drop, then they can use a CD-RW EXACTLY like a floppy disk.
While you are correct that you 'need a program to burn stuff', I assume you are talking about something like xcdroast or EZ CD creator. You don't need these programs to burn anything onto a CD-RW. As I said before, a UDF layer on the OS (Direct CD will do this) will allow you to use the CD-RW exactly as you would use a floppy disk. When UDF works, the users no longer need to use any software at all to copy files onto a CD-RW.
Yes, this is similar to what we do. A single share (in our case, on an NT server) that can be used as a big, virtual, floppy disk eliminates sneaker net. We still use LS-120 internally for non-networked computers, but if your computer is on the LAN you can use this common share as a big floppy disk.
I'm not so sure. Sure ATAPI drives like zip and LS-120 have better features than a floppy drive, but they both suffer from being expensive and having relatively small install bases (compared to standard floppy drives). The most important feature of removable media devices is compatibility. Obviously the disk is useless if you take it to a computer without the proper drive to read the media. So this hurts zip and ls-120 as well.
If I need to take a file to school on some type of removable media, I have to use a floppy disk or CD-R because the computers in the lab only have floppy disks and CD ROMS. These computers are pretty old, so I'm guessing that CD-RW disks won't work. Then when someone brings in a zip disk into work, they don't work because we have standardized on LS-120 drives instead of floppy drives.
Then what happens is that a user at work begins to like LS-120 disks and starts using them exclusively to carry files around. They go to another institution with their LS-120 and, of course, that institution has no idea what an LS-120 disk or drive is so the disk is unreadable.
I personally think that CD-R / CD-RW will be the standard way of moving files around between computers. These have very high reliability and are dirt-cheap now (~$.50 / CD-R). The install base of CD-ROMS has to be much higher than zip and ls-120 combined.
besides why are you paying for dial-up access anyways?
Maybe because targeted advertising sucks? Like I really want to disclose personal information and be attacked by targeted advertising when I'm on dialup... Even though I really don't like paying for anything, the $20 / month is worth not putting up with "free" ISPs. My current ISP is very flexible in that I don't have to install lame proprietary software to connect to their service. The only thing I want out of a dialup ISP is a phone number, and a username / password to connect to the service.
Besides, do these "free" ISPs you listed even work with OS's besides Windows?
Until then, we'll stick with NS4.76 and Netscape calendar I'm sure...
Not all classes that teach C++, using the free M$ VC++ compiler, focus on the Windows API. I know someone who is taking a class now and the class focuses on objects and algorithms. The Windows API isn't even mentioned in the class, the only programs they are writing are console win32 apps.
Of course, the GNU compiler + a text editor + gdb is the best way to learn how to program. Many colleges use it as a teaching tool, so it's good to learn how to use it early so you don't run into it later on, after using the VC++ compiler for a while. The nice thing about this compiler is that it forces you to learn about makefiles, object files, etc. These types of things are hidden from the programmer in a simple VC++ environment.
I was thinking the exact same thing, but also... solaris and most variations of UNIX won't even run on x86 will they?
you forgot
4. Increasing complexity
5. Confused employees
not all programs change the interface to display a theme or skin... winamp compatible skins are only bitmap images that sit on top of the interface to give it a polished look. I wish I knew who thought of this skin idea first (nullsoft?), but I thought nullsoft added a great feature to allow people to design skins for their program.
maybe, but it doesn't support LDAP directory lookups, making it unusable for our business. I really feel that the LDAP lookups of NS4.x were one of its best features. 4.x has much better integration with this directory than any other mail client I have tried. The address book of NS6 really feels like a step down for me. Oh well, the whole program feels like a step down so I guess the address book should too.
hmm, no I run netscape on Windows platforms. I'm sorry but IE sucks... If it didn't integrate with the OS and a company besides M$ created it, then I would like it more. IE doesn't give me enough control. The way that it handles user profiles sucks since your favorites, cache, preferences are scattered all over your machine. Favorites in c:\windows\favorites ? What is this doing in the OS directory.
Of course netscape has problems also, but I think it is the lesser evil. All software sucks anyway, some just sucks more.
As for Netscape 6, it probably will suck unless you really like AOL IM. I just hope that a good, final, lightweight version of mozilla is released so that people can use that instead of netscape 6. Mozilla is going to be very important for linux.
What I don't like about the M$ Natural keyboard and the M$ Internet keyboards is that they have that strange curvy front to them. Most keyboards are flat in the front, but M$ keyboards seem to be different. The only reason it sucks is that it doesn't fit well into a lot of standard keyboard trays we use.
I guess they sell the Microsoft, Proprietary Keyboard Tray separately for twice as much as a standard one.
the major networks just pulled florida from Gore and set it back to undecided. too close to decide just yet...
We have standardized on Netscape communicator at work as well. I feel that netscape is the better browser than IE because it doesn't integrate itself with the OS. Since we have also standardized on netscape messenger as our email client on all workstations, navigator is an easy choice for our web browser. I don't necessarily like the bloated nature of netscape, but it does have advantages. Even though it takes longer to load initially, separate windows and instances load instantly as long as communicator is still running.
:( So there are tradeoffs, but I still think that it is a great program.
Of course the downside is that if communicator crashes for any reason, it takes your email and all browser windows with it
IE is nice and everything, but some operating systems can't use it since M$ won't be porting it to certain systems anytime soon. The nice thing about Mozilla is that it will run on many platforms including GNU/Linux. I'm guessing that IE6 won't be released for anything other than windows or mac.
Even though Netscape does have some lame features such as AOL instant messenger and the shopping button, it isn't that bad. The thing that I really love about Netscape is that it doesn't integrate with the OS like IE does. Separation of the OS and its applications (such as a web browser) is a good thing.
The page you're viewing has information that requires a browser "plug-in", which is available from Netscape's Plug-in Finder. Get the plug-in now, then return to the page to enjoy all it has to offer.
But that's OK, I didn't want to load the plugin anyway (you can go into their main site by using the link). I just thought it was funny that they put the word plug-in in quotes. It reminded me of Austin Powers for some reason.
your OS has very little to do with your FPS in quake3. Last I heard, the drivers for most video cards will allow higher FPS in win9x compared to windows nt / 2000. The reason is that they are more mature and optimized. The fact that Windows 2000 is stable under a load is nice, but every OS can do that. I have never had any problems with my gaming system running Windows 98SE either, but that doesn't mean Windows 98SE it is a good OS :)
I'm complaining about drivers. They really aren't written very well and it seems like major companies were not ready to support windows 2000. HP is a good example, when windows 2000 was released, installing every piece of hardware from HP on a windows 2000 box was an adventure. But this may be fixed now.
This doesn't really matter in a business environment, but at home I don't want to deal with the hardware incompatibilities.
no thanks. I'm happy with by dual-booting (win98se & rh6.2) system. I really don't want to deal with windows 2000 incompatibilities at home. It's bad enough I have to do it at work.
for me HP devices give me the most grief. I have struggled with HP scanners, printers, and CD writers on Win2k. None of them are easy to install.
For example (not really an HP example), trying to install Easy CD Creator + Direct CD is a nightmare on win2k. If you install the wrong version of direct CD and reboot the system, you'll be in for a surprise. better get your recovery disks...
It just didn't seem that HP was ready for Windows 2000. At least they could tell us that their hardware was incompatible instead of claiming 'windows 2000 compatibility'. When I plug in a scanner into a Windows 2000 computer, I don't want to see the BSOD just because the HP drivers suck.
well, there would be a productivity loss... but not for the reasons you listed. It would probably happen because of the lack of a decent office software package for linux. Where I work, we have a lot of people still using 24-32MB Pentium boxes. How do you plan on loading something like KDE2 + star office on this? At least M$ office is modular in that you can open winword without opening excel, thus cutting down on your memory usage.
oh, and winword loads in about 2 seconds. soffice loads in about 30. There is a huge difference in memory usage here that severly affects memory systems.
The reason there is no productivity loss due to users not being able to figure out the OS is that a good sysadmin will setup the box so that it works properly. The end user doesn't need to know any technical details about linux, just how to start the programs that they need. In addition to that, a good sysadmin will also run employees through training so that they DO know how to use linux.
exactly. Just from looking at the screenshot, I can tell you that this is worthless to an experienced FPS gamer. How are you supposed to switch weapons? Even in quake1, there were eight standard weapons. This means that you need at least 6 buttons to switch weapons at your disposal quickly. Then you need one button to jump, two to strafe, one to move backwards.
6+1+2+1 = 10 buttons
And those are just the necessary buttons, you need many more for team messages in games such as CTF.
my binds section of my q1 cfg (I'm too lazy to count, but this claw thing needs more buttons):
bind t "messagemode"
bind y "messagemode2"
bind ` "toggleconsole"
bind c "+jump"
bind x "+moveleft"
bind v "+moveright"
bind space "+back"
bind mouse1 "+attack"
bind mouse2 "+forward"
bind tab "+showscores"
bind pause "pause"
bind f4 myq
bind [ ourq
bind ] enemyq
bind q ping
bind f grapple
bind w flagstatus
bind d rl
bind g lg
bind s snailgun
bind b db
bind 2 shotgun
bind 1 axe
bind 4 nailgun
bind z gl
bind = "say_team acknowledged."
bind - "say_team negative."
bind \ "say_team im on it."
bind [ "say_team enemy quad."
bind ] "say_team our quad."
bind , "say_team im on defense."
bind . "say_team im on offense."
bind f3 "say_team im at quad."
bind f4 "say_team my quad."
bind f5 "say_team check quad."
cost of CD-R media: .07 cents / MB
cost of JAZ media: 5.0 cents / MB
that makes CD-R media 71 times more affordable than jaz media. Oh, and I have never seen a JAZ drive before so compatibility sucks. the choice between the two seems pretty clear to me...
Uh, using CD-RW disks IS very transparent. When the admin installs a UDF layer on the client computer, the formatted CD-RW can be used exactly like a big, floppy disk. If the user can drag+drop, then they can use a CD-RW EXACTLY like a floppy disk.
While you are correct that you 'need a program to burn stuff', I assume you are talking about something like xcdroast or EZ CD creator. You don't need these programs to burn anything onto a CD-RW. As I said before, a UDF layer on the OS (Direct CD will do this) will allow you to use the CD-RW exactly as you would use a floppy disk. When UDF works, the users no longer need to use any software at all to copy files onto a CD-RW.
Yes, this is similar to what we do. A single share (in our case, on an NT server) that can be used as a big, virtual, floppy disk eliminates sneaker net. We still use LS-120 internally for non-networked computers, but if your computer is on the LAN you can use this common share as a big floppy disk.
If I need to take a file to school on some type of removable media, I have to use a floppy disk or CD-R because the computers in the lab only have floppy disks and CD ROMS. These computers are pretty old, so I'm guessing that CD-RW disks won't work. Then when someone brings in a zip disk into work, they don't work because we have standardized on LS-120 drives instead of floppy drives.
Then what happens is that a user at work begins to like LS-120 disks and starts using them exclusively to carry files around. They go to another institution with their LS-120 and, of course, that institution has no idea what an LS-120 disk or drive is so the disk is unreadable.
I personally think that CD-R / CD-RW will be the standard way of moving files around between computers. These have very high reliability and are dirt-cheap now (~$.50 / CD-R). The install base of CD-ROMS has to be much higher than zip and ls-120 combined.
Maybe because targeted advertising sucks? Like I really want to disclose personal information and be attacked by targeted advertising when I'm on dialup... Even though I really don't like paying for anything, the $20 / month is worth not putting up with "free" ISPs. My current ISP is very flexible in that I don't have to install lame proprietary software to connect to their service. The only thing I want out of a dialup ISP is a phone number, and a username / password to connect to the service.
Besides, do these "free" ISPs you listed even work with OS's besides Windows?