I remember an uproar when Deja.com did something similar with usenet postings. Turned random words into links to their paying vendors?? Remember that?? Seems like the same kind of thing to me.
I didn't like it then, and I don't like it now. Then deja was even in possession of the data they were "modifying". Now, M$ isn't even in possession of it.
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yes, it's dangerous.
yes, people die doing it.
so all you curious folk, just don't bother. That way there will be more room in the plane for me.
def perm(l): # Compute the list of all permutations of l if len(l) <= 1: return [l] r = [] for i in range(len(l)): s = l[:i] + l[i+1:] p = perm(s) for x in p: r.append(l[i:i+1] + x) return r
If that had been perl and the newlines had been squashed, it would be much easier to decipher, and it would actually run as is.
I have some friends that are extremely talented programmers that find python very difficult to use because it relies on whitespace for code block delineation. They're blind. With that in mind, is it still a great idea to use whitespace (not braces) just so the code will all look alike?
all they have to do is put a few hundred turns of enameled copper wire around the hard drive with the MP3's on it and rig it to a large battery and a big red button with a cover on it. Move the cover, hit the button, and the drive is clean. Much better than smashing the drive, you have a chance of being able to re-use the drive after.
I also think that it ought to be mandatory to take
some sort of training course (or proof that you're proficient in handling a weapon)
before purchasing a handgun or rifle.
How is this different from handgun licencing?? You keep a list somewhere of those who have taken this class. That's tantamount to having a list somewhere of those who own guns. They licenced weapons in Austrailia not too long ago. Not long after that they banned then except for hunting. And it was easy because they already had a list of who had the guns. Not too long after that they noticed an increase in the violent crime (I should say they noticed a steep increase as the standard rate of increase accelerated).
There used to be rifle ranges in High schools. You used to be able to take a riflery class in high school. Those people knew how to use guns. They were trained by their parents and teachers. They didn't shoot each other in school.
...backup policy at Berkeley University is to keep the tapes around for 10 years. If true, that
means Berkeley University alone has the history of Usenet content going back to 1991!
Yeah, but what sort of silly admin backs up usenet spool for transient articles?!?!? It's just usenet! Unless they were decidedly in the business of archiving usenet, backing up news spools is just silly.
we've already
spent 2 years hearing Deja say that the dropped older postings would be restored "real soon
now".
The archives got truncated in May 2000, with data back to May 1999. If they've been waiting for 2 years for data to be restored, then that's pretty amazing since the data was only taken offline 18 months ago.
What you need for USENET archiving is storage and a simple script. The whole USENET system is
designed for easy, reliable replication and archiving. Yes, the storage costs money and it is "work" to buy new
CDs and disk drives. But a "software pirate" doesn't acquire a copyright to the stuff he is copying just because it
is takes time for him to copy the stuff.
You've obviously never run a usenet server or you wonldn't have made such a statement that identifies you as a "know-not" as far as usenet goes.
I've dealt with some young cow-orkers who were pretty knowledgable, and some who thought they knew it all. What I've determined is that it's more important how you present your ideas. If they're not listening to you, it's either because you are presenting your ideas the wrong way, or they don't agree and they're assholes.
Ideally, if they don't like your ideas, your cow-orkers should explain why and work with you to come up with something better.
It all comes down to what they think of you because of yoru attitude. If you're a "young punk" then they aren't going to listen to you. If you're the "inexperienced kid with good ideas", then they'll at least listen to you. (I'm not saying you're inexperienced, but that's what they'll think.)
However, there are some things you only learn through years of experience. Listen to your more experienced cow-orkers and you might learn some of this stuff.
yes, and I believe the article mentiones that it has been done before, but doesn't give any details (like it was capt Joseph Kittenger, USAF from 102,800') I'm sure the links you found will have all the details for anyone interested.
The difference (other than altitude) is that she's going to try this without a drogue chute to stabilize her. I hope she does well. I'd like to jump with her again. (yes, I'm a skydiver also)
um... It has been done before. They even mention it in the article. It was Capt. Joseph Kittenger (USAF) from 102,800ft. However, he used a drogue for the upper parts of the fall to help stabalize himself. Nice guy by the way...
The current JFS for Linux project is, for instance, still case insensitive. Hardly an acceptable situation for a UNIX filesystem, but
hopefully one that can be fixed.
actually, if you'd go look, you'd see that as of release 13 of JFS (September 29, 2000) is now case sensitive. But I suppose you can't be bothered to research something before you flame about it.
Having been a contractor at IBM in Austin, and having spolen personally with some of the AIX developers and their managers, I can state that IBM groks open source. (at least the departments I've had contact with did) IBM's JFS may not be the most mature journalling filesystem for linux out there, they aren't claiming to be, but it is another one. When it's all done, we'll probably have a couple of jfs's left (one that only journals meta-data, and one that journals both data and meta-data) and they'll likely have incorporated the best pieces of the jfs's that have fallen aside. Isn't that what it's all about? So all you people who spread doom and gloom about IBM and open source, just stop it. We're sick of it ok?? What about Sun?? They've pissed on the open source community and yet what of them? Oh, that's right... they're not IBM. Evil big blue brother IBM. get off your high horses and accept that they're doing something good for you.
how much have you actually used it? Or did you sit down and look at smit and go "woah, this must be a toy!" or was the lvm too complicated for you? I know being able to resize filesystems on the fly may be a little too much for you, but I bet nobody ever told you you can migrate an active swap space to another disk. I've (under AIX) had reported hardware failures (I still like that it tells you when a disk is about to go bad) migrated all the data off that disk (including swap) replaced the disk, and suffered no downtime because of it. And those weren't even hot swap drives.
so you people can talk it down all you like. It's my commercial OS of choice (I'd rather run linux) unless we're talking about orable, then it should be slowaris as discussed earlier in this topic.
No section of the constitution or the US code allows you to form your own militia and claim the right to carry a gun.
So from the tone of this can I correctly infer that you believe the government should take guns out of the hands of law abiding individual citizens? Let's only let the criminals have the guns? Or are you one of the Rosie O'Donnel thinkalikes who believes nobody should be allowed to have guns except you or your body guard?
does anyone have any info on what a full usenet feed (with binaries) is running now? When I left Deja (April) we were getting 70+GB a day. But I don't think that was all the binaries.
Someone approched deja asking for a feed and offered a partnership on the deal. They paid for the (mostly) spamfiltered feed, and charged customers. So any billing problems they had were not Deja's problems.
It lasted less than a year, and then the company that provided it (or maybe just the department and the service) got bought by usenetservers.com.
That group of old servers (the ones that had the old news) were also the machines that were failing more often (and weren't rackmount). When they relocated, they saw how much the new machines were going to cost them in rackspace and then thought about how much they were costing them in support costs, and decided to take them offline until the news retreival system could be re-architected. They still have all the old servers, and they haven't scrapped any of the news. It's just not searchable.
So did the cost of bandwidth and storage outweigh revenue? I'd say definately yes. The intangibles? Don't know. measure them and I'll tell you.
actually, the 10% number was pretty good. It meant that only 10% of the searches (not searches from 10% of the people) even hit the old archives. You can't really turn this around the way you did. It didn't say that only 10% of their users used the old archives, it's 10% of their searches.
And where did you hear that they dropped 60% of their traffic? This is news to me and sounds like pure conjecture (did you konw that 92% of all statistics are made up?)
And I hope someone does buy a copy of the archives in the fire sale, but they also will have to buy a couple of key people in order to get the info out of the format that it's stored in. That's part of the reason that they took those machines offline. Their current (proprietary) solution doesn't scale well.
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I remember an uproar when Deja.com did something similar with usenet postings. Turned random words into links to their paying vendors?? Remember that?? Seems like the same kind of thing to me.
I didn't like it then, and I don't like it now. Then deja was even in possession of the data they were "modifying". Now, M$ isn't even in possession of it.
yes, it's dangerous.
yes, people die doing it.
so all you curious folk, just don't bother. That way there will be more room in the plane for me.
we're just US'ians. and y'all talk funny, so y'all must be from the same place. right? :)
def perm(l): # Compute the list of all permutations of l if len(l) <= 1: return [l] r = [] for i in range(len(l)): s = l[:i] + l[i+1:] p = perm(s) for x in p: r.append(l[i:i+1] + x) return r
If that had been perl and the newlines had been squashed, it would be much easier to decipher, and it would actually run as is.
I have some friends that are extremely talented programmers that find python very difficult to use because it relies on whitespace for code block delineation. They're blind. With that in mind, is it still a great idea to use whitespace (not braces) just so the code will all look alike?
all they have to do is put a few hundred turns of enameled copper wire around the hard drive with the MP3's on it and rig it to a large battery and a big red button with a cover on it. Move the cover, hit the button, and the drive is clean. Much better than smashing the drive, you have a chance of being able to re-use the drive after.
I also think that it ought to be mandatory to take some sort of training course (or proof that you're proficient in handling a weapon) before purchasing a handgun or rifle.
How is this different from handgun licencing?? You keep a list somewhere of those who have taken this class. That's tantamount to having a list somewhere of those who own guns. They licenced weapons in Austrailia not too long ago. Not long after that they banned then except for hunting. And it was easy because they already had a list of who had the guns. Not too long after that they noticed an increase in the violent crime (I should say they noticed a steep increase as the standard rate of increase accelerated).
There used to be rifle ranges in High schools. You used to be able to take a riflery class in high school. Those people knew how to use guns. They were trained by their parents and teachers. They didn't shoot each other in school.
Yeah, but what sort of silly admin backs up usenet spool for transient articles?!?!? It's just usenet! Unless they were decidedly in the business of archiving usenet, backing up news spools is just silly.
So sue deja. They're auctioning off their assets this week, maybe you can get a free desk lamp!
The archives got truncated in May 2000, with data back to May 1999. If they've been waiting for 2 years for data to be restored, then that's pretty amazing since the data was only taken offline 18 months ago.
You've obviously never run a usenet server or you wonldn't have made such a statement that identifies you as a "know-not" as far as usenet goes.
I've dealt with some young cow-orkers who were pretty knowledgable, and some who thought they knew it all. What I've determined is that it's more important how you present your ideas. If they're not listening to you, it's either because you are presenting your ideas the wrong way, or they don't agree and they're assholes.
Ideally, if they don't like your ideas, your cow-orkers should explain why and work with you to come up with something better.
It all comes down to what they think of you because of yoru attitude. If you're a "young punk" then they aren't going to listen to you. If you're the "inexperienced kid with good ideas", then they'll at least listen to you. (I'm not saying you're inexperienced, but that's what they'll think.)
However, there are some things you only learn through years of experience. Listen to your more experienced cow-orkers and you might learn some of this stuff.
yes, and I believe the article mentiones that it has been done before, but doesn't give any details (like it was capt Joseph Kittenger, USAF from 102,800') I'm sure the links you found will have all the details for anyone interested.
The difference (other than altitude) is that she's going to try this without a drogue chute to stabilize her. I hope she does well. I'd like to jump with her again. (yes, I'm a skydiver also)
um... It has been done before. They even mention it in the article. It was Capt. Joseph Kittenger (USAF) from 102,800ft. However, he used a drogue for the upper parts of the fall to help stabalize himself. Nice guy by the way...
actually it started out as a correction. I went apeshit later while I was typing it and let it kind of get out of hand.
- The current JFS for Linux project is, for instance, still case insensitive. Hardly an acceptable situation for a UNIX filesystem, but
hopefully one that can be fixed.
actually, if you'd go look, you'd see that as of release 13 of JFS (September 29, 2000) is now case sensitive. But I suppose you can't be bothered to research something before you flame about it.Having been a contractor at IBM in Austin, and having spolen personally with some of the AIX developers and their managers, I can state that IBM groks open source. (at least the departments I've had contact with did) IBM's JFS may not be the most mature journalling filesystem for linux out there, they aren't claiming to be, but it is another one. When it's all done, we'll probably have a couple of jfs's left (one that only journals meta-data, and one that journals both data and meta-data) and they'll likely have incorporated the best pieces of the jfs's that have fallen aside. Isn't that what it's all about? So all you people who spread doom and gloom about IBM and open source, just stop it. We're sick of it ok?? What about Sun?? They've pissed on the open source community and yet what of them? Oh, that's right... they're not IBM. Evil big blue brother IBM. get off your high horses and accept that they're doing something good for you.
540MB huh?? wow! is that why I have an install in production that has a 160MB /usr ?
trim the fat pal. trim the fat.
how much have you actually used it? Or did you sit down and look at smit and go "woah, this must be a toy!" or was the lvm too complicated for you? I know being able to resize filesystems on the fly may be a little too much for you, but I bet nobody ever told you you can migrate an active swap space to another disk. I've (under AIX) had reported hardware failures (I still like that it tells you when a disk is about to go bad) migrated all the data off that disk (including swap) replaced the disk, and suffered no downtime because of it. And those weren't even hot swap drives.
so you people can talk it down all you like. It's my commercial OS of choice (I'd rather run linux) unless we're talking about orable, then it should be slowaris as discussed earlier in this topic.
in Black!! Oh, the rest maybe.. but in black?!?!? why don't you just ask for world peace while you're at it!
So from the tone of this can I correctly infer that you believe the government should take guns out of the hands of law abiding individual citizens? Let's only let the criminals have the guns? Or are you one of the Rosie O'Donnel thinkalikes who believes nobody should be allowed to have guns except you or your body guard?
is there any node that has been archiving since the start?
just asking that question shows how little you know about usenet and how much traffic it has.
does anyone have any info on what a full usenet feed (with binaries) is running now? When I left Deja (April) we were getting 70+GB a day. But I don't think that was all the binaries.
Just curious
Someone approched deja asking for a feed and offered a partnership on the deal. They paid for the (mostly) spamfiltered feed, and charged customers. So any billing problems they had were not Deja's problems.
It lasted less than a year, and then the company that provided it (or maybe just the department and the service) got bought by usenetservers.com.
That group of old servers (the ones that had the old news) were also the machines that were failing more often (and weren't rackmount). When they relocated, they saw how much the new machines were going to cost them in rackspace and then thought about how much they were costing them in support costs, and decided to take them offline until the news retreival system could be re-architected. They still have all the old servers, and they haven't scrapped any of the news. It's just not searchable.
So did the cost of bandwidth and storage outweigh
revenue? I'd say definately yes. The intangibles? Don't know. measure them and I'll tell you.
actually, the 10% number was pretty good. It meant that only 10% of the searches (not searches from 10% of the people) even hit the old archives. You can't really turn this around the way you did. It didn't say that only 10% of their users used the old archives, it's 10% of their searches.
And where did you hear that they dropped 60% of their traffic? This is news to me and sounds like pure conjecture (did you konw that 92% of all statistics are made up?)
And I hope someone does buy a copy of the archives in the fire sale, but they also will have to buy a couple of key people in order to get the info out of the format that it's stored in. That's part of the reason that they took those machines offline. Their current (proprietary) solution doesn't scale well.