There is no partial infringement or limited infringement.
See bold-faced text from a court decision below: Supreme Court of Missouri
Richard Blakely and Carol Blakely, Respondents, v. Dean Blakely and Shelly Blakely, Appellants.
Case Number: SC83307
{snip}
III. CONSTITUTIONALITY OF GRANDPARENT VISITATION STATUTE Parents acknowledge that Herndon upheld section 452.402 as constitutional and approved an order that, like the one issued below, permitted the grandparents in that case to visit with their grandchildren every 90 days. In so doing, Herndon noted that the extent of the infringement is an essential consideration in determining whether a right has been unconstitutionally impinged. 857 S.W.2d at 208. Herndon determined that Missouri's statute, unlike most of the statutes in the cases relied on by parents therein, permits only a very limited infringement of the parent-child relationship, stating:
Perhaps you should rethink your interpretation of the Second Amendment.
Since when do perons who did a crime no longer have civil rights.
When it is a felony, they lose various rights, including the right to vote in some states, and the right to bear arms. It's been that way for many years. Just like pedophiles not being allowed to teach in public schools after their release from prison.
5 people caught while tens of thousands denied the right to buy a gun without the government stamping you like meat with a seal iof approval.
No, that's your poor reading comprehension. 5 people per day. I've not had trouble buying guns since the Brady Bill was passed. Just what kind of background do you have? Domestic violence conviction? Felony sex offender? Maybe I don't want to know.
You are a Totalitarian Jew Killer.
Not yet.
Your totalitarian leanings shows you know nothing of Mao, Stalin and Hitler.
Gee, only a few posts back, you were saying I was a Nazi. A Nazi who knows nothing of Hitler? Wow, that's a new one.
You and your AIDS friends bite people, spit on things and have sweat and dirty underwear that spreads the disease.
I have no communicable disease, AIDS, HIV, or otherwise.
As to your beliefs about AIDS being spread through spit, sweat, and "dirty underwear", your ignorance is laughable. What a moron.
Seqestering contagious diseased people isnt about politics, its about survival.
Hitler said, "The Jews are a Cancer on the breast of Germany." And that's why he "sequestered" them in concentration camps -- he claimed that it was for the survival of Germany. You and he have a lot in common.
All laws to try and keep criminals from having guns have failed.
Untrue. According to an NBC News report on Sept. 8, 1994, a spokesman for the Georgia Bureau of Investigations said that in the first 6 months that the Brady law was in effect, there were 40,846 background checks on gun applicants, 11,962 of which had criminal histories (almost 30%), causing them to be rejected. Furthermore, approximately 1000 of them were wanted on criminal charges or out on bail. That's 5 wanted criminals a day put away by the Brady law. The BATF Statistics indicate that, nationwide, 5% of the applicants have been rejected because of prior criminal convictions detected by the background check mandated by the Brady law.
You are a certified anti-semite. Anyone who takes guns from a Jew is planning to kill them in the ovens.
I hope that you recognize how totally insane that statement is.
I never doubted you were an idiot you doesn't know anything about recent/modern history.
I know quite a bit about modern history, but I'm not obsessing about the Nazis to the point of studying their military command structure and titles like you do.
Now, I consider "shall not be infringed" to mean nothing else but what it says. Specifically, that means "without limitation". It means that the Congress shall not infringe on that right.
I suggest you see the definition of "infringe" as there is nothing about "without limitation."
Your right to keep and bear arms is not infringed if you can still buy arms. If a law is passed saying that you can't buy or sell guns with elephant ivory handles, that law does not infringe on your rights to keep and bear arms. Neither does a law which limits barrel lengths on shotguns (as decided by the Miller Supreme Court case).
If the liberals defended the Second Amendment the way they do the First Amendment, we'd all have the right to own and stash nukes, so I guess I am glad they don't.
Why? Nukes are considered "arms." Either you believe that there should be no limitations on private ownership of arms or you accept that some limitation is reasonable.
But that brings up a good point: All rights have limitations. Free speech doesn't mean that you can yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre -- because it puts the public at undue risk. Isn't that the reason behind banning some guns (although the Assualt Weapons ban was ineffective and simply raised prices)?
The NRA realises, and rightfully so, that fighting gun control in the courts is tantamount to a lottery. It's a waste of money and time and if the case is heard by a liberal judge, it's all over.
No, it's not. That's what appeals are for. The Supreme Court has 9 justices, of which 5 are considered conservative right now. If the NRA thought that they had a chance, they'd have taken a case to the Supreme Court.
Well, why would I, a law abiding person, not be able to pruchase an AK with a drum?
1. Most guns used in crimes are stolen. Your AK-47 with a drum could end up in the hands of criminals were your house to be burglarized. 2. That you are law abiding now does not mean that you always will be. Everyone starts out as a law-abiding citizen.
Why would I, a law abiding person, not be able to purchase C4, hand grenades, and dynamite?
You, by preventing me from having it, assume I will do a drive by with an AK with a drum.
So I never actually accused you of anything. You made that up.
Throughout this threat I have felt anti-semetism.
You "felt" it? Wow, you really are way out there, aren't you? You need to get your paranoia treated.
Now this proves you hates Jews.
Believing your claim that you are Jewish proves that I hate Jews?
As to knowing who I am, I know you know who I am.
It wasn't a tough guess given your paranoid 'I'm-a-victim' rantings. And it's not like normal people have ever accused me of anti-semetism.
When you reporting me to your Waffen SS Einzatgruppen commander for gassing in the truck?
Sorry, but I'm not even familiar with what "Einzatgruppen" means. Unlike you, I am not trying to relive WWII, imagining evil enemies, spies, and assassins around every turn, all in an effort to spice up an otherwise dull life.
People with HIV and AIDS are infected with a disease.
So are people with cancer, MS, Parkinson's, hepatitus, etc.
Unless you can 100% ensure me they wont spread disease, they should be banned from wherever the saliva blood feces and urine could murder innocent people.
I don't know what restaurants you eat at, but saliva, human blood, urine, and feces are not part of the foods I order.
AIDS people need to be sequestered biologically from normal people.
You sound like Adolf Hitler who decided that homosexuals weren't "normal people" and that they should be in concentration camps. You are just another Nazi homophobe who thinks that you have a right to decide who is "normal" and who should be locked away from "normal people." Isaac Asimov died of AIDS, but you'd have probably liked to see him in a concentration camp because not only did he have AIDS, but he was a Jew. NAZI! YOU ARE A GOD-DAMNED NEO-NAZI!
You never wrote any code. You cant prove it. You lie about being a coder.
As you say, "I have nothing to prove to you." As to being a "coder", I'm a software engineer.
I have nothing to prove to you. I know what my resume says, and what yours doesn't.
You know nothing of my resume or credentials, coder boy.
I've fired better people than you.
Sure you have. Like anyone would put you in charge of others. What a joke!
Oil is up because demand is up.
Sure. It has nothing to do with the situation that Bush caused in Iraq that paralyzed their oil industry.
Oil is commodity sold by OPEN and other nations
I've never heard of the nation of "OPEN."
And your tree hugging liberal assholes caused the Oil Hegemony of today by resisting Nuclear power with self centered Volvo Driving NIMBY bike bath not in my back yard attitude towards nuclear power. You caused it, now live with it, Hippy scum.
I've been a proponent of nuclear energy for over two decades. But you right wing conservative assholes have been resisting any kind of pollution regulation that would force a switch from dirty oil and coal burning powerplants to nuclear. Bush and Cheney are yet another pair in the long list of right-wing dicks who want to keep the oil and coal industries rolling in money.
Id like to note about the deficit, you don't chart the spending deficit against the size of the total economy. The reason federal spending is higher now than ever before is because the economy has been growing at about 3% year for a long time. What % is the current deficit compared to the size of the economy?
We have a deficit of over $440 billion under Bush in an economy that has lost jobs with a stock market that's dropped by 10% since he took office. Under Clinton, we had a surplus by the time that he finished up in office. Funny how the 3%/year "growth" hasn't happened under Bush.
Outline failed policies. Explain how Bush has made the USA a worse place to do business.
1. Rather than stimulating consumer spending by giving big tax cuts to those of moderate incomes, the majority of his tax cuts went to the wealthy. Hiring happens when businesses grow to satisfy demand for their goods/services -- and the people who drive spending are those of moderate income. The leading association of small business, the American Small Business Alliance (ASBA), released the following statement on the President's 2003 tax cut: "President Bush's newly enacted $350 billion economic plan is the wrong policy at the wrong time for America and the nation's small businesses...Leading economists assert the plan will have almost no stimulus effect and will inevitably force massive budget cuts in the future."
2. He caused an increase in oil prices by destabilizing Iraq, which both reduced their oil output while causing concern among investors who drove prices up.
3. He devastated many small businesses by calling up reservists for one tour of duty after another with no tax breaks or other compensation for the affected businesses.
4. Despite everyone knowing that world demand for oil was going up, Bush did nothing to increase U.S. vehicle fuel economy, choosing, instead, to give money to big oil for research into hydrogen fueled vehicles, something which has no chance of having any near-term payoff. As a result, businesses are struggling with higher fuel costs for fleets, higher shipping, more expensive airline tickets, etc.
5. He sided with big drug companies in dragging his feet on importation of cheaper drugs from Canada. This increased health care costs.
6. Because Bush's Iraq war has increased animosity towards the U.S. throughout the world, consumers in other countries are avoiding U.S. branded products like McDonalds, Coca Cola, and Nike. According to a study by NOP World, the percentage of consumers worldwide who "use" US brands was found to have falle
No, you sidestepped and talked about crackheads deny the once free-est people in the USA who were only ruled by very fair and free and mild Federal Law and your crackhead leftist mayor turned the place into a crime infested hive of civil rights violations. People like you destroyed DC.
Nice try moron. You asked if I thought that the gun ban was reasonable and I said "No, I do not." That's an answer. No sidestepping. Now admit that you are a lying, distorting sack of shit.
As to the mayer, I've never lived in DC, never voted in DC, and think that Barry should have shared a jail cell with you.
Gun control is not an infringement unless it prevents you from effectively being part of a well regulated militia. The 2nd Amendment says that we have a right to bear arms, not that you have a right to own specific weapons like a Striker 12, an M85.50 caliber machine gun, an UZI, or a bazooka. The 2nd Amendment does not include phrases like "without limitation."
If all gun control is "unconstitutional", please tell me why the NRA never challenges the laws in court and, instead, lobbies Congress.
Taking your words out of context to try and sugar coat them.
That's all that I wrote on the subject. I didn't separate that sentence from a longer paragraph. There were no sentences before it and none after it. Read it yourself if you doubt me.
Who the fuck are you to decide what should and shouldn't be legal.
Who are you to decide? You're the one telling me that no guns should be illegal.
If you ever attempt to take guns away from the people more than has already been done (believe me, FuckHead, 1934, 1968 and 1986 are FUCKING PLENTY, no FUCK OFF).
No. You sidestepped the firearms ban and talked of people voting and being represented illegally.
You are a lying sack of shit. Here's the exchange:
You wrote: "Firearms are completely banned in DC, yet you think this is reasonable?"
I replied: "No, I do not. And unlike the right-wingers, I think that it is wrong that D.C. residents have taxation without representation."
You asked. I answered in no uncertain terms. Now admit that you lied or that you lack reading comprehension.
You are too much of a fucking pussy to reveal yourself, there are many others watching this thread, waiting to find out who you are so we can campaign against you.
That's coming from someone who posts as "anonymous coward." What a hypocritical little wuss you are!
Mentaly ill people are already banned from owning firearms, you stupid fucking ass.
John Hinckley bought his gun legally. So did Mark David Chapman. If you would stop ass-raping young boys long enough to read something, you'd know that. This may also come as a shock, but a sane person can buy a gun and then go insane later.
You Talk about DC getting representation, but you dont care they lost firearms rights.
You lying, child molesting, asswipe. I wrote that I thought it unreasonable that they lost firearm ownership rights AND that I thought that they should have representation in Congress.
You dont have to living in fucking DC, you fucking moron, you choose to live there.
I don't live there and never have, you pedophilic, illiterate piece of shit. Besides, why is "move out of DC" the answer when a DC resident wants Congressional representation but not the answer when a DC resident wants to own a gun?
I could kill more people with a semi hunting rifle with many spare magazines than an AK with a 75 round drum.
That shows how little you know about guns. An AK-47 has a firing rate in FA of 600 rounds per minute. That means that 75 shots could be sprayed into a crowd in about 8 seconds in a drive-by. Try that with a semi-auto hunting rifle and the crowd would have run for cover before you ever get the second clip in place.
but you chronicled and confessed your treason and sedition
No, I never "confessed" to treason or sedition. You accused me of it and then were too much of a pussy to back up that claim by alerting the authorities (who would have probably ended up hauling you away in a straight-jacket).
All centerfire bullets can be made AP. The law was written in a way that if it could be AP, its banned.
Wrong again. The law was just as I quoted: "a projectile for a centerfire rifle, designed or marketed as having armor piercing capability, that the Attorney General determines, pursuant to section 926(d), to be more likely to penetrate body armor than standard ammunition of the same caliber." Did you see the "more likely...than standard ammunition of the same caliber" part?
I know a few lawyers who could make life miserable for you, so do it. Let me see you post up a name & address.
After the threats that you've made against my life? Yeah, right. You said that I committed treason, so turn me in for it. The feds could get a warrant for Slashdot & my ISP to identify me in a heartbeat -- but then you know that. You're full of shit and just want a name and address so that you can harass me, vandalize my home, commit arson, or even attempt violence. Hell, you're such a pathetic coward that you post anonymously.
Youre they guy with the small penis
Your interest in the size of my penis is disturbing.
You sucked at being a consultant and a software engineer. You never wrote anything of value.
Actually, I was damned good at both and am still employed (though not self-employed) as a software engineer working under someone who hired me previously as a consultant. Code that I wrote has been used for everything from NIR spectrophotometry to satellite communications.
What makes you think I trust you not to actually give out death threats to me and firebomb my business!
What a pathetic cop-out. You didn't even answer the questions of what your business did or whether it was your sole means of support.
I know the statistics, and things are looking up. The economy had a cycle end that was independant of who was president and exacerbated by 9/11.
Bush was the first President in over 70 years to lose jobs. The markets are down. Oil prices are up. Wages are down. Deficits are at an all-time high. It's not a regular economic cycle and it's fucking pathetic how you Republicans will use the deaths of about 3,000 people as an excuse for your pathetic failed economic policies. The World Trade Center was destroyed. Not all of New York. Not all of Los Angeles. You people have no ethics.
I couldnt buy new "assault weapons" for years because of Kerry and his cohorts in the Senate. I hold him responsible for blocking the ownership of large cap mags and denying me the right to purchase many firewarms I wanted from 1994 until now.
But he did not prevent you from owning and buying guns -- only from getting certain types and models of guns and gun accessories. You could still go down to your local Walmart and buy a shotgun or rifle, couldn't you? So you could still have been part of a well regulated militia, right?
The ACLU is anti gun.
The NRA is pro gun.
The ACLU is a special interest group with no absolute understanding of civil rights.
The NRA is a special interest group with absolutely no understanding of civil rights. The ACLU is a special interest group about civil rights. That's their main focus and they understand it well.
Well, thank god most people elect intelligent congressman and senators that dont vote along with Kerry, Feinstein and Schumer.
It was Schumer who said "The broad principle that there is an individual right to bear arms is shared by many Americans, including myself."
The original poster said that Kerry tried to ban all centerfire bullets and I pointed out that it was a ban only on armor piercing bullets. He never responded to that and instead went into an unreasoned tirade. Thus, he lost.
And you were teh first one to give out death threats.
I wrote "I'll call myself anything that choose and you can look down the barrel of any shotgun, rifle, or pistol that I own if you doubt that I'm a real gun owner." Where is the death threat? I said that he "can look down", not that I would make him or that I would hunt him down. Nice try.
If you submit your information here I will get a prosecutor to come after you no problem.
Slashdot has my IP address and the feds can get a warrant if there's cause, so turn me in big man. Go ahead. Why don't you give me your name and address? Post it right here, big man.
You did the death threat first. Sorry. The record shows this. Clearly in nested view.
I wrote "I'll call myself anything that choose and you can look down the barrel of any shotgun, rifle, or pistol that I own if you doubt that I'm a real gun owner." Where is the death threat? I said that he "can look down", not that he would or that I would hunt him down, so get over yourself.
So by your logic it was okay for non-Jews to watch Jews be roasted in the ovens of the Germans in WW2 because you werent a jew?
Some arms should be illegal. No people should be victims of genocide.
Seig Heil to you.
I always thought you were a neo-Nazi, so thanks for proving it.
Baseball bats, golf clubs and knives are dangerous in the wrong hands.
Would you rather have a mentally unbalanced person show up on a busy street with a golf club or a fully automatic AK-47 with a 100 round drum?
People who have nothing to argue take the analogies to the extremes. No gun owners I know want RPGs, Nuclear weapons, tanks or artillery.
People who want to make a point use extreme analogies to do so. Either arms control is reasonable or it is not. If it's okay to say that someone can't have a shoulder-fired Stinger missile, then the right to bear arms is not absolute and laws can establish limits. Besides, this isn't about the people you know. It's about everyone. Bill Gates can afford a nuclear missile, so does the 2nd Amendment mean that he's got a right to buy one if he wants?
Legislation is about two things: control and distrust of the public.
It's possible to trust the public as a whole and not trust each member of it individually. It only takes one nut-case with a fully automatic AK-47 with a 75 round drum to kill an incredible number of people in a drive-by shooting. Sure, he can kill people with a Glock or a baseball bat, but it's a lot fewer people. So we try to come up with laws that do the least harm to sportsmen, homeowners, and even gun enthusiasts while limiting the damage that one deranged person can do.
You are guilty of treason, you are wrong.
What happened to presumed innocence? If you think that I've committed treason, then turn me in to the authorities. If they prosecute, then you have a case. If not, you're just making unfounded, defamatory postings.
Firearms are completely banned in DC, yet you think this is reasonable?
No, I do not. And unlike the right-wingers, I think that it is wrong that D.C. residents have taxation without representation. Will you back an amendment granting DC two Senators and Congressional representation? They have more population than Wyoming and about the same as Vermont, so why should they get no representation?
But I thought that everyone had a Constitutional right to bear arms. Why not a 14 year old?
I'm so far past school and your level of thinking its unreal.
I'll grant that your thinking is not based on reality.
Maybe if you owned a small business you would start disliking Kerry a bit more.
Maybe if my small business had survived George W. Bush, I'd start liking him a bit more. It did fine under Clinton, but didn't survive Bush. There have been more small business failures since GWB took office than can be counted. The economy has lost jobs. Pay is down. The national debt is at a record as is deficit spending. Consumer confidence is down. Each U.S. household is in debt for the Iraq war to the tune of well over $1,000.
You want small businesses to prosper? Cut middle class taxes to stimulate consumer spending.
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There is no partial infringement or limited infringement.
See bold-faced text from a court decision below:
Supreme Court of Missouri
Richard Blakely and Carol Blakely, Respondents, v. Dean Blakely and Shelly Blakely, Appellants.
Case Number: SC83307
{snip}
III. CONSTITUTIONALITY OF GRANDPARENT VISITATION STATUTE
Parents acknowledge that Herndon upheld section 452.402 as constitutional and approved an order that, like the one issued below, permitted the grandparents in that case to visit with their grandchildren every 90 days. In so doing, Herndon noted that the extent of the infringement is an essential consideration in determining whether a right has been unconstitutionally impinged. 857 S.W.2d at 208. Herndon determined that Missouri's statute, unlike most of the statutes in the cases relied on by parents therein, permits only a very limited infringement of the parent-child relationship, stating:
Perhaps you should rethink your interpretation of the Second Amendment.
Since when do perons who did a crime no longer have civil rights.
When it is a felony, they lose various rights, including the right to vote in some states, and the right to bear arms. It's been that way for many years. Just like pedophiles not being allowed to teach in public schools after their release from prison.
5 people caught while tens of thousands denied the right to buy a gun without the government stamping you like meat with a seal iof approval.
No, that's your poor reading comprehension. 5 people per day. I've not had trouble buying guns since the Brady Bill was passed. Just what kind of background do you have? Domestic violence conviction? Felony sex offender? Maybe I don't want to know.
You are a Totalitarian Jew Killer.
Not yet.
Your totalitarian leanings shows you know nothing of Mao, Stalin and Hitler.
Gee, only a few posts back, you were saying I was a Nazi. A Nazi who knows nothing of Hitler? Wow, that's a new one.
You and your AIDS friends bite people, spit on things and have sweat and dirty underwear that spreads the disease.
I have no communicable disease, AIDS, HIV, or otherwise.
As to your beliefs about AIDS being spread through spit, sweat, and "dirty underwear", your ignorance is laughable. What a moron.
Seqestering contagious diseased people isnt about politics, its about survival.
Hitler said, "The Jews are a Cancer on the breast of Germany." And that's why he "sequestered" them in concentration camps -- he claimed that it was for the survival of Germany. You and he have a lot in common.
All laws to try and keep criminals from having guns have failed.
Untrue. According to an NBC News report on Sept. 8, 1994, a spokesman for the Georgia Bureau of Investigations said that in the first 6 months that the Brady law was in effect, there were 40,846 background checks on gun applicants, 11,962 of which had criminal histories (almost 30%), causing them to be rejected. Furthermore, approximately 1000 of them were wanted on criminal charges or out on bail. That's 5 wanted criminals a day put away by the Brady law. The BATF Statistics indicate that, nationwide, 5% of the applicants have been rejected because of prior criminal convictions detected by the background check mandated by the Brady law.
You are a certified anti-semite. Anyone who takes guns from a Jew is planning to kill them in the ovens.
I hope that you recognize how totally insane that statement is.
I never doubted you were an idiot you doesn't know anything about recent/modern history.
I know quite a bit about modern history, but I'm not obsessing about the Nazis to the point of studying their military command structure and titles like you do.
Now, I consider "shall not be infringed" to mean nothing else but what it says. Specifically, that means "without limitation". It means that the Congress shall not infringe on that right.
I suggest you see the definition of "infringe" as there is nothing about "without limitation."
Your right to keep and bear arms is not infringed if you can still buy arms. If a law is passed saying that you can't buy or sell guns with elephant ivory handles, that law does not infringe on your rights to keep and bear arms. Neither does a law which limits barrel lengths on shotguns (as decided by the Miller Supreme Court case).
If the liberals defended the Second Amendment the way they do the First Amendment, we'd all have the right to own and stash nukes, so I guess I am glad they don't.
Why? Nukes are considered "arms." Either you believe that there should be no limitations on private ownership of arms or you accept that some limitation is reasonable.
But that brings up a good point: All rights have limitations. Free speech doesn't mean that you can yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre -- because it puts the public at undue risk. Isn't that the reason behind banning some guns (although the Assualt Weapons ban was ineffective and simply raised prices)?
The NRA realises, and rightfully so, that fighting gun control in the courts is tantamount to a lottery. It's a waste of money and time and if the case is heard by a liberal judge, it's all over.
No, it's not. That's what appeals are for. The Supreme Court has 9 justices, of which 5 are considered conservative right now. If the NRA thought that they had a chance, they'd have taken a case to the Supreme Court.
Well, why would I, a law abiding person, not be able to pruchase an AK with a drum?
1. Most guns used in crimes are stolen. Your AK-47 with a drum could end up in the hands of criminals were your house to be burglarized.
2. That you are law abiding now does not mean that you always will be. Everyone starts out as a law-abiding citizen.
Why would I, a law abiding person, not be able to purchase C4, hand grenades, and dynamite?
You, by preventing me from having it, assume I will do a drive by with an AK with a drum.
So I never actually accused you of anything. You made that up.
Throughout this threat I have felt anti-semetism.
You "felt" it? Wow, you really are way out there, aren't you? You need to get your paranoia treated.
Now this proves you hates Jews.
Believing your claim that you are Jewish proves that I hate Jews?
As to knowing who I am, I know you know who I am.
It wasn't a tough guess given your paranoid 'I'm-a-victim' rantings. And it's not like normal people have ever accused me of anti-semetism.
When you reporting me to your Waffen SS Einzatgruppen commander for gassing in the truck?
Sorry, but I'm not even familiar with what "Einzatgruppen" means. Unlike you, I am not trying to relive WWII, imagining evil enemies, spies, and assassins around every turn, all in an effort to spice up an otherwise dull life.
People with HIV and AIDS are infected with a disease.
So are people with cancer, MS, Parkinson's, hepatitus, etc.
Unless you can 100% ensure me they wont spread disease, they should be banned from wherever the saliva blood feces and urine could murder innocent people.
I don't know what restaurants you eat at, but saliva, human blood, urine, and feces are not part of the foods I order.
AIDS people need to be sequestered biologically from normal people.
You sound like Adolf Hitler who decided that homosexuals weren't "normal people" and that they should be in concentration camps. You are just another Nazi homophobe who thinks that you have a right to decide who is "normal" and who should be locked away from "normal people." Isaac Asimov died of AIDS, but you'd have probably liked to see him in a concentration camp because not only did he have AIDS, but he was a Jew. NAZI! YOU ARE A GOD-DAMNED NEO-NAZI!
You never wrote any code. You cant prove it. You lie about being a coder.
As you say, "I have nothing to prove to you." As to being a "coder", I'm a software engineer.
I have nothing to prove to you. I know what my resume says, and what yours doesn't.
You know nothing of my resume or credentials, coder boy.
I've fired better people than you.
Sure you have. Like anyone would put you in charge of others. What a joke!
Oil is up because demand is up.
Sure. It has nothing to do with the situation that Bush caused in Iraq that paralyzed their oil industry.
Oil is commodity sold by OPEN and other nations
I've never heard of the nation of "OPEN."
And your tree hugging liberal assholes caused the Oil Hegemony of today by resisting Nuclear power with self centered Volvo Driving NIMBY bike bath not in my back yard attitude towards nuclear power. You caused it, now live with it, Hippy scum.
I've been a proponent of nuclear energy for over two decades. But you right wing conservative assholes have been resisting any kind of pollution regulation that would force a switch from dirty oil and coal burning powerplants to nuclear. Bush and Cheney are yet another pair in the long list of right-wing dicks who want to keep the oil and coal industries rolling in money.
Id like to note about the deficit, you don't chart the spending deficit against the size of the total economy. The reason federal spending is higher now than ever before is because the economy has been growing at about 3% year for a long time. What % is the current deficit compared to the size of the economy?
We have a deficit of over $440 billion under Bush in an economy that has lost jobs with a stock market that's dropped by 10% since he took office. Under Clinton, we had a surplus by the time that he finished up in office. Funny how the 3%/year "growth" hasn't happened under Bush.
Outline failed policies. Explain how Bush has made the USA a worse place to do business.
1. Rather than stimulating consumer spending by giving big tax cuts to those of moderate incomes, the majority of his tax cuts went to the wealthy. Hiring happens when businesses grow to satisfy demand for their goods/services -- and the people who drive spending are those of moderate income. The leading association of small business, the American Small Business Alliance (ASBA), released the following statement on the President's 2003 tax cut: "President Bush's newly enacted $350 billion economic plan is the wrong policy at the wrong time for America and the nation's small businesses...Leading economists assert the plan will have almost no stimulus effect and will inevitably force massive budget cuts in the future."
2. He caused an increase in oil prices by destabilizing Iraq, which both reduced their oil output while causing concern among investors who drove prices up.
3. He devastated many small businesses by calling up reservists for one tour of duty after another with no tax breaks or other compensation for the affected businesses.
4. Despite everyone knowing that world demand for oil was going up, Bush did nothing to increase U.S. vehicle fuel economy, choosing, instead, to give money to big oil for research into hydrogen fueled vehicles, something which has no chance of having any near-term payoff. As a result, businesses are struggling with higher fuel costs for fleets, higher shipping, more expensive airline tickets, etc.
5. He sided with big drug companies in dragging his feet on importation of cheaper drugs from Canada. This increased health care costs.
6. Because Bush's Iraq war has increased animosity towards the U.S. throughout the world, consumers in other countries are avoiding U.S. branded products like McDonalds, Coca Cola, and Nike. According to a study by NOP World, the percentage of consumers worldwide who "use" US brands was found to have falle
You accused me earlier of planning to perform a drive by shooting with an AK with a drum. You fucking accused me of planning to do that!
Liar. Quote the passage or admit that you are a liar.
Now, you just called me a Jew.
You wrote "I am a Jew for the Preservation of Firearms." I just responded to that.
You must be a Jew hater.
You used the term Jew first, so I'll assume that you're the Jew hater.
By the way, I know who you are. We've spoken before. Your pathetic ploy of calling everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi makes it obvious.
No, you sidestepped and talked about crackheads deny the once free-est people in the USA who were only ruled by very fair and free and mild Federal Law and your crackhead leftist mayor turned the place into a crime infested hive of civil rights violations. People like you destroyed DC.
Nice try moron. You asked if I thought that the gun ban was reasonable and I said "No, I do not." That's an answer. No sidestepping. Now admit that you are a lying, distorting sack of shit.
As to the mayer, I've never lived in DC, never voted in DC, and think that Barry should have shared a jail cell with you.
Im using AC to protect me
You're using AC because you are a coward.
Gun control is infringement on that right.
.50 caliber machine gun, an UZI, or a bazooka. The 2nd Amendment does not include phrases like "without limitation."
Gun control is not an infringement unless it prevents you from effectively being part of a well regulated militia. The 2nd Amendment says that we have a right to bear arms, not that you have a right to own specific weapons like a Striker 12, an M85
If all gun control is "unconstitutional", please tell me why the NRA never challenges the laws in court and, instead, lobbies Congress.
You skipped your meds again, didn't you?
Taking your words out of context to try and sugar coat them.
That's all that I wrote on the subject. I didn't separate that sentence from a longer paragraph. There were no sentences before it and none after it. Read it yourself if you doubt me.
Who the fuck are you to decide what should and shouldn't be legal.
Who are you to decide? You're the one telling me that no guns should be illegal.
If you ever attempt to take guns away from the people more than has already been done (believe me, FuckHead, 1934, 1968 and 1986 are FUCKING PLENTY, no FUCK OFF).
That's not even a sentence, you illiterate fuck.
Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.
Idiot. What's next, holding your breath until you turn blue?
You believe in the state crushing the people.
I support waiting periods for handguns and background checks because I want the state to crush me. That makes a lot of sense.
I am a Jew for the Preservation of Firearms, how could I be a Nazi!
Ever heard the term "self-hating jew"? It fits you well.
No. You sidestepped the firearms ban and talked of people voting and being represented illegally.
You are a lying sack of shit. Here's the exchange:
You wrote: "Firearms are completely banned in DC, yet you think this is reasonable?"
I replied: "No, I do not. And unlike the right-wingers, I think that it is wrong that D.C. residents have taxation without representation."
You asked. I answered in no uncertain terms. Now admit that you lied or that you lack reading comprehension.
You are too much of a fucking pussy to reveal yourself, there are many others watching this thread, waiting to find out who you are so we can campaign against you.
That's coming from someone who posts as "anonymous coward." What a hypocritical little wuss you are!
Mentaly ill people are already banned from owning firearms, you stupid fucking ass.
John Hinckley bought his gun legally. So did Mark David Chapman. If you would stop ass-raping young boys long enough to read something, you'd know that. This may also come as a shock, but a sane person can buy a gun and then go insane later.
You Talk about DC getting representation, but you dont care they lost firearms rights.
You lying, child molesting, asswipe. I wrote that I thought it unreasonable that they lost firearm ownership rights AND that I thought that they should have representation in Congress.
You dont have to living in fucking DC, you fucking moron, you choose to live there.
I don't live there and never have, you pedophilic, illiterate piece of shit. Besides, why is "move out of DC" the answer when a DC resident wants Congressional representation but not the answer when a DC resident wants to own a gun?
I could kill more people with a semi hunting rifle with many spare magazines than an AK with a 75 round drum.
That shows how little you know about guns. An AK-47 has a firing rate in FA of 600 rounds per minute. That means that 75 shots could be sprayed into a crowd in about 8 seconds in a drive-by. Try that with a semi-auto hunting rifle and the crowd would have run for cover before you ever get the second clip in place.
but you chronicled and confessed your treason and sedition
No, I never "confessed" to treason or sedition. You accused me of it and then were too much of a pussy to back up that claim by alerting the authorities (who would have probably ended up hauling you away in a straight-jacket).
All centerfire bullets can be made AP. The law was written in a way that if it could be AP, its banned.
Wrong again. The law was just as I quoted: "a projectile for a centerfire rifle, designed or marketed as having armor piercing capability, that the Attorney General determines, pursuant to section 926(d), to be more likely to penetrate body armor than standard ammunition of the same caliber." Did you see the "more likely...than standard ammunition of the same caliber" part?
I know a few lawyers who could make life miserable for you, so do it. Let me see you post up a name & address.
After the threats that you've made against my life? Yeah, right. You said that I committed treason, so turn me in for it. The feds could get a warrant for Slashdot & my ISP to identify me in a heartbeat -- but then you know that. You're full of shit and just want a name and address so that you can harass me, vandalize my home, commit arson, or even attempt violence. Hell, you're such a pathetic coward that you post anonymously.
Youre they guy with the small penis
Your interest in the size of my penis is disturbing.
You sucked at being a consultant and a software engineer. You never wrote anything of value.
Actually, I was damned good at both and am still employed (though not self-employed) as a software engineer working under someone who hired me previously as a consultant. Code that I wrote has been used for everything from NIR spectrophotometry to satellite communications.
What makes you think I trust you not to actually give out death threats to me and firebomb my business!
What a pathetic cop-out. You didn't even answer the questions of what your business did or whether it was your sole means of support.
I know the statistics, and things are looking up. The economy had a cycle end that was independant of who was president and exacerbated by 9/11.
Bush was the first President in over 70 years to lose jobs. The markets are down. Oil prices are up. Wages are down. Deficits are at an all-time high. It's not a regular economic cycle and it's fucking pathetic how you Republicans will use the deaths of about 3,000 people as an excuse for your pathetic failed economic policies. The World Trade Center was destroyed. Not all of New York. Not all of Los Angeles. You people have no ethics.
I couldnt buy new "assault weapons" for years because of Kerry and his cohorts in the Senate. I hold him responsible for blocking the ownership of large cap mags and denying me the right to purchase many firewarms I wanted from 1994 until now.
But he did not prevent you from owning and buying guns -- only from getting certain types and models of guns and gun accessories. You could still go down to your local Walmart and buy a shotgun or rifle, couldn't you? So you could still have been part of a well regulated militia, right?
The ACLU is anti gun.
The NRA is pro gun.
The ACLU is a special interest group with no absolute understanding of civil rights.
The NRA is a special interest group with absolutely no understanding of civil rights. The ACLU is a special interest group about civil rights. That's their main focus and they understand it well.
Well, thank god most people elect intelligent congressman and senators that dont vote along with Kerry, Feinstein and Schumer.
It was Schumer who said "The broad principle that there is an individual right to bear arms is shared by many Americans, including myself."
No. You lost.
The original poster said that Kerry tried to ban all centerfire bullets and I pointed out that it was a ban only on armor piercing bullets. He never responded to that and instead went into an unreasoned tirade. Thus, he lost.
And you were teh first one to give out death threats.
I wrote "I'll call myself anything that choose and you can look down the barrel of any shotgun, rifle, or pistol that I own if you doubt that I'm a real gun owner." Where is the death threat? I said that he "can look down", not that I would make him or that I would hunt him down. Nice try.
If you submit your information here I will get a prosecutor to come after you no problem.
Slashdot has my IP address and the feds can get a warrant if there's cause, so turn me in big man. Go ahead. Why don't you give me your name and address? Post it right here, big man.
You did the death threat first. Sorry. The record shows this. Clearly in nested view.
I wrote "I'll call myself anything that choose and you can look down the barrel of any shotgun, rifle, or pistol that I own if you doubt that I'm a real gun owner." Where is the death threat? I said that he "can look down", not that he would or that I would hunt him down, so get over yourself.
So by your logic it was okay for non-Jews to watch Jews be roasted in the ovens of the Germans in WW2 because you werent a jew?
Some arms should be illegal. No people should be victims of genocide.
Seig Heil to you.
I always thought you were a neo-Nazi, so thanks for proving it.
So your biz tanked because it was a bad idea.
Yeah, software engineering and consulting was a bad idea. Sure.
Now you blame Bush. HAHAHAHA.
Double standard! It's okay for you to say that Kerry could hurt your small business but it's wrong for me to say that Bush could hurt mine.
I started a new business just 15 months ago and everything is going just fine.
And what does your business do? Is it your sole means of support? What's the web page of your business?
Funny how every person I know who runs a small business did just fine.
Try looking at statistics rather than polling your buddies.
Baseball bats, golf clubs and knives are dangerous in the wrong hands.
Would you rather have a mentally unbalanced person show up on a busy street with a golf club or a fully automatic AK-47 with a 100 round drum?
People who have nothing to argue take the analogies to the extremes. No gun owners I know want RPGs, Nuclear weapons, tanks or artillery.
People who want to make a point use extreme analogies to do so. Either arms control is reasonable or it is not. If it's okay to say that someone can't have a shoulder-fired Stinger missile, then the right to bear arms is not absolute and laws can establish limits. Besides, this isn't about the people you know. It's about everyone. Bill Gates can afford a nuclear missile, so does the 2nd Amendment mean that he's got a right to buy one if he wants?
Legislation is about two things: control and distrust of the public.
It's possible to trust the public as a whole and not trust each member of it individually. It only takes one nut-case with a fully automatic AK-47 with a 75 round drum to kill an incredible number of people in a drive-by shooting. Sure, he can kill people with a Glock or a baseball bat, but it's a lot fewer people. So we try to come up with laws that do the least harm to sportsmen, homeowners, and even gun enthusiasts while limiting the damage that one deranged person can do.
You are guilty of treason, you are wrong.
What happened to presumed innocence? If you think that I've committed treason, then turn me in to the authorities. If they prosecute, then you have a case. If not, you're just making unfounded, defamatory postings.
Firearms are completely banned in DC, yet you think this is reasonable?
No, I do not. And unlike the right-wingers, I think that it is wrong that D.C. residents have taxation without representation. Will you back an amendment granting DC two Senators and Congressional representation? They have more population than Wyoming and about the same as Vermont, so why should they get no representation?
Kerry gets a "F" from all the major gun advocacy/civil rights groups.
I thought that the ACLU thought highly of him.
Being Brady (which is unconstitutional
Says who? The Supreme Court? If it's so clearly unconstitutional, why didn't the NRA challenge it in court?
Being a Kerry is flat out gun grabbing totalitarian.
Please, give me a list of people from whom he has taken guns.
14 year olds cant buy guns. I can.
But I thought that everyone had a Constitutional right to bear arms. Why not a 14 year old?
I'm so far past school and your level of thinking its unreal.
I'll grant that your thinking is not based on reality.
Maybe if you owned a small business you would start disliking Kerry a bit more.
Maybe if my small business had survived George W. Bush, I'd start liking him a bit more. It did fine under Clinton, but didn't survive Bush. There have been more small business failures since GWB took office than can be counted. The economy has lost jobs. Pay is down. The national debt is at a record as is deficit spending. Consumer confidence is down. Each U.S. household is in debt for the Iraq war to the tune of well over $1,000.
You want small businesses to prosper? Cut middle class taxes to stimulate consumer spending.
This is an example of a liberal losing an argument.
No, this is an example of a liberal realizing that his opponent, who has threatened his life, is a nut case.
This isn't about patriotism, this is about treason. His thinking is treasonous
Oh no! I'm guilty of a thought crime!
If you think that I've committed treason, then turn me in. Otherwise, shut up and go away.