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Data Mining the US Senate Votes

AJ writes "We used some old and new data mining techniques to see what was happening in the US Senate in 2003. Among other things, we identified the 'social' network of similarities between senators, how influential is each senator and each state, and a 3D VRML view of the Senate. You will be able to check whether Senator Kerry was a centrist or a liberal, and who is acting more cohesively, the Democrats or the Republicans. We provide our data and the source of all our analysis software (Orange and MPCA, both under GPL)."

93 comments

  1. New record? by Keebler71 · · Score: 0

    5 comments and slashdotted...

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    1. Re:New record? by Keebler71 · · Score: 1

      my mistake... that should have been first post and already slashdotted?!

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    2. Re:New record? by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 1

      And it's Coralized and still slashdotted.

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    3. Re:New record? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 1

      No, it is not a new record, and no, there's no reason whatsoever to think that it's exceptional.

      Why would you think that clickthroughs on a story would take a while to reach full load? They wouldn't. The most people would click on a story in the first moment of its appearance on the front page. That amount would slowly taper.

      It would certainly take less than the 20 seconds for you to make your brilliant comment.

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  2. Testing the cohesiveness of their server by DaveJay · · Score: 1

    Well, that link didn't last long. Does anyone have some juicy sample results from before it tanked?

  3. coolest thing ever by alatesystems · · Score: 1

    This has to be the coolest thing I've ever seen. Someone else said it's /.ed, but its a Coral Cache link, and it loaded fine for me. Maybe your local cache is down.

    Being able to see the data in a usable form rather than looking at bland figures and listening to spin on tv about how "Rob Republicans hates old people and wants to kill your children" and "Dennis Democrat want's to eat babies" and then back it up with some nonsequitur vote is a lot better.

    mmmm, pretty colors.

  4. Re:What is Kerry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, it takes hard work to show up at the bottom of the list of most effective Senators.

  5. Do I read this correctly? by aelbric · · Score: 0

    5 out of 8 "not voting" for Kerry while all the others voted for every measure? And those include education, agriculture, and strengthening local government.

    Also a no vote for strengthening Social Security but a yes vote for preventing drilling in the arctic refuge.

    Is this meant to be biased or is this really his voting record? If it is accurate, I guarantee who I'm not voting for.

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    1. Re:Do I read this correctly? by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Notice that the period surveyed is exactly the period he's been running for President. Before the campaign began, Kerry's attendance record was somewhat better than average, IIRC.

      Also be very, very careful when reading the short descriptions of the bills and amendments voted on. The content often has very little to do with the name or the summary. "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism," anyone?

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    2. Re:Do I read this correctly? by kmb · · Score: 1

      That table is a small sample of both Senators and votes/issues. The text makes no mention of how this particular section of the whole table was chosen, and also doesn't tell you to draw conclusions from it. I don't think it's wise to extrapolate a person's entire record from it.

    3. Re:Do I read this correctly? by budgenator · · Score: 1

      The content often has very little to do with the name or the summary
      Usualy seems to mean the opposite in my experience, then when you get to the admenments, it's like trying to read a patch file, insert comma here, change "and" to "and or" in sec 15 para 3 line 2 ect. . Maybe we should introduce a bill to force congress to use CVS!

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  6. Yeah, we're not biased... by SPBesui · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    However, one should interpret "Not Voting" as letting the majority vote for you. Since the majority is Republican, the fact that Kerry often did not vote means that he is effectively the most central of all Democrats, based on all the votes cast in 2003. Anyone with a brain knows this isn't true.

    1. Re:Yeah, we're not biased... by Ritorix · · Score: 0

      Why did they not simply graph the votes that Kerry was present for? In that case, his voting record places Kerry to the left.

  7. Re:What is Kerry? by SPBesui · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Apparently not:

    http://www.ailab.si.nyud.net:8090/aleks/politics/m etric_scaling.htm

    Scroll to the bottom:

    The issue of John Kerry:

    National Journal claimed that Kerry is an extreme liberal. This was disputed by many, including Kerry himself. Poole claims that Kerry is liberal but not extreme [link, link], Clinton, Jackman & Rivers say that it's hard to say due to his absenteeism but also that Kerry is not extreme [PDF link].

    However, one should interpret "Not Voting" as letting the majority vote for you. Since the majority is Republican, the fact that Kerry often did not vote means that he is effectively the most central of all Democrats, based on all the votes cast in 2003.

  8. Re:What is Kerry? by N3WBI3 · · Score: 1
    However, one should interpret "Not Voting" as letting the majority vote for you. Since the majority is Republican, the fact that Kerry often did not vote means that he is effectively the most central of all Democrats, based on all the votes cast in 2003.

    Yea I caught that but I thought they had to be joking. Kerry missed votes for two reasons:

    1) Too Busy Snowboarding / Wind surfingbr 2) Did not want to be painted liberal in the presidental election, and wanted not to appear too far to the right in the democratic primaries..

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  9. Similarity matrix question... by gp310ad · · Score: 1

    This presentation looks a little weird.
    Did you include NV as opposing vote, same vote, or just drop it completely. If dropped completely, it looks like you've got some weighting to balance out shading for senators with high % on NV.

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    1. Re:Similarity matrix question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the similarity matrix, we could only use the votes that were actually cast.

    2. Re:Similarity matrix question... by budgenator · · Score: 1

      they analyzed NV both as a vote as the final outcome, i.e. a nay if the bill failed, and as asssumed from previous record; personaly I favor the former as it usualy means "I don't have the balls to vote on this, and the outcome is certain anyways".

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  10. Pretty pictures... by rthille · · Score: 1

    But trying to make sense of what they mean before I've had my first cup of coffee is making my head hurt...

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  11. Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why should I even bother to comment on this story? It's so small I won't get any karma for it.

  12. History of Senate by peacefinder · · Score: 1

    I wonder if these models could be extended back to show how the senate has changed from session-to-session, and also to show how influential a Senator has been over their entire career?

    Good stuff. I hope this stuff is more widespread for 2006.

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  13. Re:What is Kerry? by elmegil · · Score: 1
    Too Busy Snowboarding / Wind surfingbr

    As opposed to vacationing in Crawford? I think the shrub spent more time in this sort of activity than the Kerry-bot.

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  14. Re:What is Kerry? by N3WBI3 · · Score: 1
    Maybe / Maybe not but Bush was not the one out there bashing his opponent for taking a vacation a week before he started a vacation..

    Makes me glad I am not voting for either..

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  15. Re:What is Kerry? by lobsterGun · · Score: 1

    President of the United States is one of those jobs where you can never really be on vacation. The job follows you wherever you go.

    If Yassir Arafat calls and wants to make peace, his call does not go to voice meal; He get's the President.

  16. Interpreting non-voting by jgardn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are five ways to interpret a non-vote.

    (0) He hasn't made up their mind or doesn't have a strong feeling on the issue and allows others to decide for him. This is the meaning of a non-vote by definition, and the reason why non-votes are allowed.

    (1) He would've voted with the party, but doesn't want to say so.

    This assumption is valid because the non-vote could be interpreted as missing data. You can assume that he would do what he normally does, it's just that that event wasn't measured. This is the most valid assumption when he is out windboarding or snowsurfing.

    (2) He would've voted with the majority but doesn't want to say so.

    By not voting, he is actually helping the majority. To get a majority, you need 50% (rounded down) + 1 votes among all who voted. When you don't vote, you decrease the number of votes needed for a majority. If he voted in the negative, he would've increased the number needed for a majority.

    (3) Would've voted with the minority but doesn't want to say so.

    In this case, he knows he is going to lose, so he doesn't want to come out looking like he is one of the losers.

    (4) He wanted to vote one way or the other but other priorities prevented him from doing so.

    Now, let's assume four possible motives for the above:

    (A) John Kerry wanted to vote, but doesn't vote because he supports a controversial issue but doesn't want to look like he supports it. This would lead to the conclusion (2) above.

    (B) John Kerry doesn't have an opinion on the issue at hands, and allows others to make the decision for him. This may be true for some issues, but I am sure that as a senator, he was contacted by several people for every vote, and if he didn't care about the issue, he would at least know who did. As a senator who represents his state, he had an obligation to make a decision for his state. By not voting, he threw away half of his state's power.

    (C) John Kerry really wanted to vote, but other priorities took him elsewhere. I'm sorry, but I don't buy this one. If he actually thinks there is something more important than the work in the senate, I'd like to know what that is. I'll give a pass for a senator missing a few votes due to illness or they're travelling for some important cause, but too miss so many votes in this way is not acceptable.

    (D) John Kerry can't make up his mind, so he doesn't vote. Is it possible that John Kerry has a hard time making up his mind? Is he really wishy-washy and indecisive? I believe he is. Others would say he is not. All you have to do is look at his record and see how inconsisten it is.

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    1. Re:Interpreting non-voting by Luyseyal · · Score: 2, Insightful
      If he actually thinks there is something more important than the work in the senate, I'd like to know what that is.

      As both the article and another poster wrote, it's called "running for President". You really should try taking off the pink elephant glasses once in awhile...

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    2. Re:Interpreting non-voting by N3WBI3 · · Score: 1

      Then he and John Edwards should have resigned from the senate..

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  17. Article only looks at 2003 by Ritorix · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Kerry's voting record goes back much farther than 2003. He has an established liberal voting record that is only obscured in this study due to his absence during the election campaign.

    1. Re:Article only looks at 2003 by fmaxwell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      He has an established liberal voting record that is only obscured in this study due to his absence during the election campaign.

      Good. I want a liberal President. I don't know how anyone managed to equate "liberal" with "bad", but they need their heads examined. Liberals are why women and black people can vote, why there aren't separate bathrooms for "colored" people, why women can join the military, why sexual harassment in the workplace isn't legal, why handicapped people have access to public buildings, why the elderly poor can get Medicare, and why someone who loses their job can get unemployment. How the hell did we ever go from the liberal optimism of the '60s to the conservative fear mongering and negativity that we have today?

    2. Re:Article only looks at 2003 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Liberals are why women and black people can vote, why there aren't separate bathrooms for "colored" people, why women can join the military, why sexual harassment in the workplace isn't legal, why handicapped people have access to public buildings, why the elderly poor can get Medicare, and why someone who loses their job can get unemployment.

      Just out of curiosity, which President signed the Americans with Disabilities Act?

    3. Re:Article only looks at 2003 by errorlevel · · Score: 1
      Just out of curiosity, which President signed the Americans with Disabilities Act?
      Just out of curiosity, which party was in control of the Congress that passed the Americans with Disabilities Act?
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    4. Re:Article only looks at 2003 by fmaxwell · · Score: 1

      Just out of curiosity, which President signed the Americans with Disabilities Act?

      S.933 was introduced by Senator Tom Harkin, a Democrat from Iowa, and was signed by President George H. W. Bush. Bush unsucessfully lobbied to prevent the incorporation of punitive damages, which would have taken the teeth out of the bill. In a strikingly close vote -- 199 to 187--the House supported the exclusion of persons with HIV and AIDS from food handling -- despite the fact that there was no evidence that HIV/AIDS could be spread through food preparation. Eighty percent of Republicans supported the measure while 67 percent of the Democrats opposed it.

      Throughout the consideration of the ADA, the Republicans in Congress and in the Bush White House tried to weaken the bill with various amendments designed to limit risks to businesses which might violate the ADA in the future.

      At best, I would say that George H. W. Bush signed the bill with reservations.

    5. Re:Article only looks at 2003 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well you're going to get a guy who's ultra-conservative and thinks poor people shouldn't be able to have abortions, even though he himself paid for one or a just who's just left of center if you take Kerry's whole voting history into account. In fact he might even be right of center if you count his votes on arms reduction, and for a lighter more agile force as conservative. (After all if the Republicans want credit Reagan for ending the cold war, the votes to reduce weapons stock piles, decomissioning of old warheads, reduction of cold war delivery systems like the B2, and Rumsfeld and Cheney are well known for their commitment to reducing troop levels, those things all go together and add up to conservative.)

      But to answer your question, the challenge isn't "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." It's "Deny what little your country has asked for lately." The concept of the commons has died with the rise of sophistry.

  18. interesting... by St.+Arbirix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They have a similarity matrix that pairs Senators and measures how close their votes were to other Senators. It's arranged in order of the clustered blocks in the Senate and if you look at Kerry's data on the vertical you'll notice that he, Edwards, and Lieberman are the Democrats who most agreed with Republicans on matters. This is interesting because two are running for President and Vice President while many thought the third would be Kerry's running mate.

    Furthermore, there is a decent sized band of midwestern Republicans who are faintly in agreement with the Democrats. It's the midwest that's usually depicted as a big red blob of Bush voters.

    Also worth noting is the middle pack of Democrats and Republicans who nearly never agreed with any Democrats.

    It looks as though Kerry got on better with both parties of the house than anyone else, despite all the reports we hear of him being the most liberal voter. Very interesting.

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    1. Re:interesting... by elmegil · · Score: 3, Informative

      You'll also note that they were among the four who had the highest non vote percentages, which is why they ended up clustered toward the majority. This is a side effect of running for president, not due to actual choices they would have otherwise made. Which means, they don't (necessarily) agree more with the Republicans at all; I think you'd want to look at a non-election season like 2001 or 2002, or else a longer stretch of the data to make that kind of determination.

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    2. Re:interesting... by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      if you look at Kerry's data on the vertical you'll notice that he, Edwards, and Lieberman are the Democrats who most agreed with Republicans on matters.

      I'm looking at looking and have you say we must have a difference in how we are interpreting these graphs.

  19. Cohesiveness in political parties by jdavidb · · Score: 1

    and who is acting more cohesively, the Democrats or the Republicans

    In other words, you'll be able to check which party most consistently follows the party-line and the party leadership, and which is more open to a broad variety of ideas.

    Haven't looked much at the results, yet; I just wanted to point out that the word "cohesive" in that paragraph really stood out in my mind as an attempt to impose a value on the data that perhaps we shouldn't hold to.

    1. Re:Cohesiveness in political parties by k_187 · · Score: 1

      The trend for the last 15 years or so has been for both parties to act in a more cohesive manner. There are few defections on either side anymore. I just finished reading a study that pointed this out, but I'm too lazy to get up and find it or I'd cite it. Its an interesting trend thought. I'd imagine that right now we're in the middle of a political re-alignment, and this cohesiveness solidifies, we'll see new candidates that challenge the status quo and break it back up for another 30-40 years or so.

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  20. The problem with the N/A votes by mpost4 · · Score: 1

    Missing data is a pain for social network analis. Non of the models that are used can really deal with it. And most models need the data to be in binary form there is no good models that uses reals so you can not really see gradulaity.

    If want to see some good social network software and you can do the networks yourself. Just look at ucnet or ora
    Ora is making better work of missing data

  21. The true liberal by Muda69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My 11-year-old asked me the other day what the word "liberal" means. I explained that many people have tried to give "liberal" a negative connotation, but it really is the basis on which our country was founded -- freedom for all. Remember that "liberal" and "liberty" share the same roots. A liberal leaves room for people to have a different opinion and doesn't label that opinion wrong -- it's just different.

    I told her that "liberal" is not a dirty word and suggested that she look it up in the dictionary, which she did. It explained that liberals don't allow authoritarian, orthodox, traditional beliefs to dictate/restrict the rights of others. A liberal is considered tolerant of alternative views and free from bigotry (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=liberal) .

    Some people have been very effective at convincing everyone that "liberal" is a bad word based on a few extreme liberals, and they have used it for political advantage. Considering the history of our country, people who aren't "liberal" should give us cause for concern. If you care about freedom for all, be proud to call yourself a "liberal." Many of my friends are Republican, but I would call them "liberal" because they are open and tolerant. Being a liberal doesn't mean that you have to be an extreme, left-wing Democrat. It means you have to be broad-minded, and that, frankly, is something all of us should strive to be. I plan to vote for "liberal" candidates, regardless of party affiliation, because they will protect our freedom.

    1. Re:The true liberal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jeeze, mine asked my why there are so damn many adults employ such a worn and tird tool 'the childs innocent question'.

    2. Re:The true liberal by elmegil · · Score: 3, Insightful
      A liberal is considered tolerant of alternative views and free from bigotry

      Mention that you're a Republican at the meeting of some traditionally painted "liberal" group like, say, The Sierra Club, and see how "free from bigotry" they really are. (here's a hint: not very free from it at all).

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    3. Re:The true liberal by k_187 · · Score: 1

      Yes, the irony is that around the time of FDR, the main course in American politics got split into "conservative" and "liberal". These do not mean as such in a literal sense, they simply mark divergence from the prevailing opinions at the time. I think it would be easy to argue that both of the major parties in the US would technically be center or right of center on an absolute 7 point scale (with 1 being total socialism, 4 being center, and 7 being Total libertarianism). I'm not saying that there are no differences, just the labels applied to the differences, have been perverted from their original intent.

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    4. Re:The true liberal by Canthros · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While that's all well and good, that's neither a strict historical definition of the word (see 5a) nor a particularly revealing definition of the word in current usage, where the meaning is more closely along the lines of progressive (3).

      I would surely like for the word to be reclaimed from the illiberal clutches of modern Liberalism. But it doesn't look likely any time soon. Better to call yourself libertarian, if that's your point of view.

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    5. Re:The true liberal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Adolf Hitler walked into a room and was beat up, I suppose that a bunch of German haters were responsible, right? You've got a very strange idea of what bigotry is.

    6. Re:The true liberal by Wylfing · · Score: 2, Insightful
      My 11-year-old asked me the other day what the word "liberal" means...it really is the basis on which our country was founded

      Although you are right that ideological tolerance is one of the founding princicples of the U.S., "liberal" is also a founding principle in a way that you do not address, namely "freedom from governance." The classic liberal prior to the 70s held the view that government is inherently bad and its reach should be limited wherever possible. Ever since Roe v Wade, however, the conservative and the liberal have polarized along a different axis -- both now view government as a way to enforce their beliefs, and their opposition is about which beliefs shall be enforced. As a poster below has noted, liberals today are sadly just as intolerant, shrill, and preachy as conservatives.

      If you wish to be a true liberal, then refuse to take sides in a silly culture war about how government should be used to force people to "do the right thing." If you want to be a true liberal, advocate leaving people alone and getting the government out of it.

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    7. Re:The true liberal by elmegil · · Score: 1
      The Sierra Club is OSTENSIBLY about environmental conservation. I know a rather (but not extremely) conservative Republican who joined the local chapter, because he supports environmental conservation. After a year of listening to people rant about Republicans (things like laughing about a member's bumper sticker "the Road to Hell is Paved with Republicans", badmouthing Republican representatives in the state legislature despite them having better records voting for the issues they cared about than many Democrats, etc) he quit in disgust.

      bigotry
      The attitude, state of mind, or behavior characteristic of a bigot; intolerance.

      Tell me how assuming that Republicans are all evil anti-environmentalists and making jokes or ranting about it is not bigoted by that well accepted definition? Had he "come out" at a Republican, he would have been shunned--and this was not simply his assumption, he watched it happen to another person in the group.

      Liberal groups have just as much bigotry, intolerance, and groupthink as conservative ones, by and large.

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    8. Re:The true liberal by Bravo_Two_Zero · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Er, the Sierra Club gets trotted out a lot as a "liberal" organization. So does Peta. Neither have ever struck me as "liberal" in the sense that all which leans left is not all that is liberal. It's a special interest group that tries hard to attract those of a left-leaning persuasion. There are plenty of left-leaning authoritarians. That's antithetical to the real "liberal" mindset. Neither really compares to the ACLU, which I'd call a genuine "liberal" organization based on the organization's aspoused philosophy (they filed an amicus brief on behalf of Jerry Falwell).

      On the flip, the Christian Coalition gets the same rap. They aren't a conservative organization. They are a religious special interest group who tries to attract right-leaning, like-minded Christians. But the core CC ideals are not "conservative" in the sense of Goldwater conservatism. They cover a much broader framework, though they may sometimes parallel them. On the other hand, the NRA is genuinely conservative in philosophy as well as sharply focused on a single issue.

      Mention that you're a liberal in a CC meeting or at many of the "conservative" churches in may area, and you'll immediately be branded a heretic. No lie. Straight to hell. Spawn of Satan and all that lot. I've heard it, and I found it chilling, though I defend their right to say it. And, no, it isn't far afield of that politically correct nonsense that can be wielded to hold down other viewpoints.

      But, mention that you're a conservative or a Republican to me, and (as long as you can maintain a reasoned and rational discourse) I'll call you the "loyal opposition" and buy you a beer. We have to go past the attempt to make the labels we hang on each other a "four letter word" sort of thing.

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    9. Re:The true liberal by elmegil · · Score: 1

      Change your settings and read the story I posted in response to the A/C who ridiculed me. It will clear things up for you I think. The point is, a lot of self-described "liberals" are quite bigoted. And if you called them "left-leaning authoritarians" to their faces, they'd try to revoke your own liberal label from you.

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    10. Re:The true liberal by WGR · · Score: 1

      Of course the roots of the words conervation and conservative both come from the word conserve. They both mean someone who wants to save things that already exist rather than change things. A conservative is one who wants to preserve the existing political relationship rather than change it a lot.
      So a true conservative would also be a true conservationist. Unfortunately we have too oftened labelled those who want to change the present order by imposing a new regime ordered by a particular ideology as "conservatives" rather than what they really are: reactionaries.

  22. Re:What is Kerry? by Canthros · · Score: 1

    That's nonsensical. If he didn't vote because he wasn't present, how can you assume that means he would've voted according the majority opinion? It's not like he abstained, he just wasn't there.

    The National Journal article is up on their website, for what it's worth, as is a second article, apparently to clarify the first. Haven't read either one yet, too busy. A brief glance at the second suggests that his lifetime Senate voting record is a bit more flattering than the last couple year's. He still shows up as pretty liberal, but not quite so much. Moderate, he ain't.

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  23. Re:The Real Kerry by AuMatar · · Score: 1

    Umm, they did this over the period he was FREAKING RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. That tends to take up a lot of your time. So there's a good reason he missed a lot of votes.

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  24. Re:What is Kerry? by Khomar · · Score: 1
    That's nonsensical. If he didn't vote because he wasn't present, how can you assume that means he would've voted according the majority opinion? It's not like he abstained, he just wasn't there.

    It is not assumed that he would have voted for the majority, but rather he effectively voted for the majority. By not voting, he made no effort to contradict the majority, therefore he made it easier for them to win.

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  25. Cost Effective? by 4of12 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So, suppose you happened to be a lobbyist and wanted to get the most bang for your buck in terms of legislation?

    Who's your man and who should you avoid?

    (And conversely, if you're paying with votes instead of dollars.)

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    1. Re:Cost Effective? by k_187 · · Score: 1

      That's a good point, but just because one Congressperson is more effective than another, doesn't mean that they will be a good "access point" for whatever change you would like. Bill Frist is at the top of their list, but I doubt he's going to be very helpful getting a tax increase pushed through. The individual Senator's preferences (or constituency's depending on how you view things) will still be a better measure of who to talk to and not waste your time on.

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  26. Re:What is Kerry? by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1
    I'd ask our president, since he seems to have all the answers, but he seems to be on vacation.

    Hopefully, he'll make it a permanent one.

  27. IP Score by Free_Trial_Thinking · · Score: 2, Interesting
    My IP Score Idea:

    A simple thing that an organization like EFF or Downhill battle could do is to look over these voting records and create a simple "IP score" or "Electronic Freedom score" from the voting records.

    That way people could look up the issues they care about most and see how the candidates 'score' against each other.

    Scores are easy ways to summarize large amounts of information and would allow everyone to see how congress people are doing on important issues. Obviously almost no one is going to pour over years of voting records, but with voting scores created from the records, it would be easy for anyone to quickly access how their representatives are doing on issues.

    I see this article/project as a first step in that direction. I think adoption of this concept by large political organizations could popularize it quickly and give it more legitimacy. Wouldn't it be nice if every senator had to worry about his IP score falling?

  28. Re:The Real Kerry by Khomar · · Score: 2, Informative
    Umm, they did this over the period he was FREAKING RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT.

    Not true. Check the site again.

    Gallery of the US Senate in 2003

    This is data collected from last year not this year. Granted, he may have been gearing up for this, but has he been campaigning full time for two full years?

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  29. Re:What is Kerry? by pavon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, it would have been nice if they did previous years as well, since (according to CSPAN) Kerry missed less than 2% of the all votes during the his time in the senate, prior to the begining of his campain, casting over 6000 votes in his senate career.

  30. The data is for 2003 - not 2004 by ugmoe · · Score: 1

    The data is for 2003 - not 2004.

    You're claiming he stopped attending the senate in 2003 while campaigning for the Democrat primary?

  31. worth a thousand spins by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    All it takes is a Flash animation of these visualizations, with some snappy music, and the Internet can destroy months of spin. For example, Kerry is obviously not the "most liberal Senator" (he's #7), and the most popular Republicans are the most "conservative". Their demonstration of the relative lack of influence of the "majority Democrat bloc" compared to the "minority Republican bloc" also gets across how control of the rules and committees gives Republicans control of the Senate, despite their bare majority, and therefore responsibility for its actions (with their party leader controlling the White House). Wonks are geeks! Someone get this stuff over to the anime department!

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    1. Re:worth a thousand spins by Bombcar · · Score: 1

      Remember that in a Republican-led Senate, not voting ends up making you look more Republican. Read the site.

  32. Re:The Real Kerry by Leftist+Troll · · Score: 1

    Given his record, I would question whether he really deserves another term as Senator.
    He doesn't, but that's true for most Senators.

    Personally, I find it sad that the Democrats could not come up with a better candidate to run against Bush
    You're telling me... with this loser in the White House, the race should be no contest at this point. The Democrats think if they keep compromising on every issue and stay as close to the imaginary "center" as possible they will get more votes. They are clearly wrong.

    many voters want anyone but Bush. Well, we might just get that wish. Are we really sure that we want it?
    Yes. It's not Bush himself that is the problem, it's the people he surrounds himself with. Feith, Wolfowitz, and all the rest of those Straussian ideologues need to go. They are very dangerous people.

  33. Re:What is Kerry? by Canthros · · Score: 1

    That's hardly the same thing, though, and makes comparisons with the NJ rankings kind of meaningless.

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  34. just another idea... by override11 · · Score: 1

    Can you add in the senator's net worth, and then note when his vote went against his normal 'views', and possibly an increase in net worth?

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  35. Re:What is Kerry? by Enzo+the+Baker · · Score: 1

    Well, they did make their analysis software available. Assuming data for previous years is readily available in the same format, it shouldn't be too hard for anyone with the inclination to do it.

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  36. Re:What is Kerry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you're especially interested in Kerry's history, K. Poole has done a more detailed analysis:
    Is John Kerry A Liberal? John Kerry's Senate Voting Record

  37. [nt] Like Bob Dole....??? by Luyseyal · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:[nt] Like Bob Dole....??? by N3WBI3 · · Score: 1
      I was under the impression Bob dole *did* retire when running for the presidency. If he did not he should have. I am curious what his absentee rate was when running.

      I am gaining a lot of respect for former presidential candidate Bob Dole, who resigned from the Senate (and his powerful position as Senate minority leader) when he ran against President Clinton in 1996.

      Bob dole retired Jun 11 1996 so that he could focus on the election.

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    2. Re:[nt] Like Bob Dole....??? by Luyseyal · · Score: 1

      Oh, it must've been Elizabeth when I saw "Dole" in the roll call. Fine.

      Maybe Bush should retire since he's running for President. Oh wait, he can telecommute. The Senate doesn't allow that.

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    3. Re:[nt] Like Bob Dole....??? by N3WBI3 · · Score: 1

      Traditionally senators have always retired after getting thier party's noimination because they cant do their job from California. The president can do his Job from anywhere it may be unfair but so is robbing two states of half their senate representation.

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    4. Re:[nt] Like Bob Dole....??? by Luyseyal · · Score: 1

      By your logic, the president has robbed the entire country of adequate representation while on the campaign trail. The way out, for your logic, is to argue that the Senate rules are outdated.

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    5. Re:[nt] Like Bob Dole....??? by N3WBI3 · · Score: 1

      Can the president do his job in Florida? Can john Kerry vote while in Flordia? Even Walter MOndale had the stones to resign when running for pres in 84'

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  38. Re:What is Kerry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I should have sig'd this post "bush is evil" and I would not have got modded troll..

  39. the truth comes out by clenhart · · Score: 1

    Zell Miller is a Democrat in name only.

  40. Beware the Totalitarian Fascist! sugarbitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    don't know how to tell you this, but the scantiness of Fmaxwell's abstract knowledge directs his sentiments more to the world of totalitarianism. In the text that follows, when I quote from Fmaxwell, I will use the word "excrement" in place of another word which is now apparently permitted in general circulation publications, and which I have edited out. For the moment, I will concentrate on the fact that his contrivances are based on a technique I'm sure you've heard of. It's called "lying". Sadly, in once sense, he is correct. If we let Fmaxwell censor by caricature and preempt discussion by stereotype, then I will undeniably be forced to kiss my freedom goodbye.

    It would be nice to say that contemptuous ruffianism doesn't exist anymore, but we all know that it does. If he can't be reasoned out of his prejudices, he must be laughed out of them. If he can't be argued out of his selfishness, he must be shamed out of it. While Fmaxwell has a right, as do we all, to believe whatever he wants about feudalism, any rational argument must acknowledge this. His lawless, sordid ventures, naturally, do not.

    There are some simple truths in this world. First, it is ridiculous that I have to be faced with creeps whose narrow-minded perversions are treated with apathy. Second, I don't trust disaffected antagonists. And finally, his secret passion is to do the devil's work. For shame! We are nearing a synthesis of defeatism and negativism into an inhumane ethnocentrism that will con us into believing that two wrongs make a right. To top that off, whenever I confront Fmaxwell about his slovenly recommendations, he either tells me that I don't understand him or feeds me some meaningless mumbo-jumbo about chauvinism. In view of that, it is not surprising that he maintains a "Big Brother" dossier of information about everyone he distrusts, to use as a potential career-ruining weapon. Is your name listed in that dossier? To rephrase that question, why can't he value a diversity of approaches without needing to rank them as better and worse? To answer that question, we need first to consider Fmaxwell's thought process, which generally takes the following form: (1) 75 million years ago, a galactic tyrant named Xenu solved the overpopulation problem of his 76-planet federation by transporting the excess people to Earth, chaining them to volcanoes, and dropping H-bombs on them, so (2) he is a model citizen. Therefore, (3) the few of us who complain regularly about his rantings are simply spoiling the party and thus, (4) if he kicks us in the teeth, we'll then lick his toes and beg for another kick. As you can see, Fmaxwell's reasoning makes no sense, which leads me to believe that it is not uncommon for him to victimize the innocent, penalize the victim for making any effort to defend himself, and then paint the whole irrational affair as some great benefit to humanity. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Of course, if Fmaxwell had learned anything from history, he'd know that he sometimes uses the word "homeotransplantation" when describing his practices. Beware! This is a buzzword designed for emotional response. I wish that some of his cronies would ask themselves, "Why am I helping him siphon off scarce international capital intended for underdeveloped countries?"

    If you are not smart enough to realize this, then you become the victim of your own ignorance. I undoubtedly claim that several of Fmaxwell's secret police, who asked to remain nameless, informed me of Fmaxwell's secret plans to destroy our sense of safety in the places we ordinarily imagine we can flee to. My views, of course, are not the issue here. The issue is that if he can overawe and befuddle a sufficient number of prominent individuals, then it will become virtually impossible for anyone to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. We can never return to the past. And if we are ever to move forward to the future, we honestly have to eschew semi-intelligible, stolid tribalism. As long as the beer keeps flowing

  41. Re:Article only looks at 2003 sugarbitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People with HIV and AIDS are infected with a disease. Unless you can 100% ensure me they wont spread disease, they should be banned from wherever the saliva blood feces and urine could murder innocent people. They are a disease, they are silent murderers. AIDS people need to be sequestered biologically from normal people. You are a fucking terrorist, bio-terrorist trying to infect innocents with HIV while you secretly develop the cure!

  42. Re:Article only looks at 2003 sugarbitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, the dmeocrats of yesterday were the ones against civil rights. look at your senator, Byrd. lok at Gore's father. Dont even act like "liberals" are for civil rights.

    All the civils rights was done by the GOP, and the most diverse cabinets are always GOP. The GOP wants excellent people, we dont care about race like you "liberals" do. All you people do is tokenize to look good, yo do nothing for excellence.

    Civil rights was invented by the GOP, Abraham Lincoln was GOP. You are Totalitarian communists.

  43. What the hell is wrong with you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the hell is wrong with you? fmaxwell's posts made sense and you come up with this computer-generated tripe? Go back to your elementary school.

  44. You are a Nazi homophobe! by fmaxwell · · Score: 1

    People with HIV and AIDS are infected with a disease.

    So are people with cancer, MS, Parkinson's, hepatitus, etc.

    Unless you can 100% ensure me they wont spread disease, they should be banned from wherever the saliva blood feces and urine could murder innocent people.

    I don't know what restaurants you eat at, but saliva, human blood, urine, and feces are not part of the foods I order.

    AIDS people need to be sequestered biologically from normal people.

    You sound like Adolf Hitler who decided that homosexuals weren't "normal people" and that they should be in concentration camps. You are just another Nazi homophobe who thinks that you have a right to decide who is "normal" and who should be locked away from "normal people." Isaac Asimov died of AIDS, but you'd have probably liked to see him in a concentration camp because not only did he have AIDS, but he was a Jew. NAZI! YOU ARE A GOD-DAMNED NEO-NAZI!

  45. Re:The Real Kerry by superflippy · · Score: 1

    The first Democratic presidential candidates debate was held in South Carolina last summer (I believe it was July). Several of the candidates visited the USC law school in August and September, and I was at the opening of Edwards' campaign headquarters here in September.

    That's all to say that the campaigning really began during the last 4-5 months of 2003. But that's still a good chunk of the year and doesn't count for any prep time leading into the campaigning.

    (Off-topic, I can't believe only a year ago not a single vote had been cast in the primaries and things were so different, more hopeful.)

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  46. You would murder all of mankind for Politics. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cancer doesnt spread through blood, neither do the others. You and your AIDS friends bite people, spit on things and have sweat and dirty underwear that spreads the disease.

    People sneeze. People often dont wash hands when returning from the restroom. Studies have shown food preparation hygeine is not very good. People wipe noses and they bleed when cutting themselves with a knife. You and your AIDS friends cannot be trusted not to not infect people.

    You are a disease spreading human species killer. You would risk your family, your contry, and all healthy people to make a poltical point. Seqestering contagious diseased people isnt about politics, its about survival.

    Have fun living with Hepatitis and AIDS you disgusting, dirty disease ridden man.

  47. Nazi Homophobe. by fmaxwell · · Score: 1

    You and your AIDS friends bite people, spit on things and have sweat and dirty underwear that spreads the disease.

    I have no communicable disease, AIDS, HIV, or otherwise.

    As to your beliefs about AIDS being spread through spit, sweat, and "dirty underwear", your ignorance is laughable. What a moron.

    Seqestering contagious diseased people isnt about politics, its about survival.

    Hitler said, "The Jews are a Cancer on the breast of Germany." And that's why he "sequestered" them in concentration camps -- he claimed that it was for the survival of Germany. You and he have a lot in common.

    1. Re:Nazi Homophobe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prove AIDS isnt spread by fluids. It is. You are an AIDS adovocate. EVERYONE HASD AIDS LALALALALA.

      Also, the Jews were called a menace by people like you, diseased or not. Being smarter causes that response. But AIDS people are diseased. That is a fact, you can lie about it not being harmful to others but AIDS means death.

    2. Re:Nazi Homophobe. by fmaxwell · · Score: 1
      Prove AIDS isnt spread by fluids.

      From HIV Infection and AIDS, An Overview, NIAID Fact Sheet: NIAID, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD 20892:
      "Although researchers have found HIV in the saliva of infected people, there is no evidence that the virus is spread by contact with saliva. Laboratory studies reveal that saliva has natural properties that limit the power of HIV to infect. Research studies of people infected with HIV have found no evidence that the virus is spread to others through saliva by kissing."

      "Scientists also have found no evidence that HIV is spread through sweat, tears, urine, or feces."

      "Studies of families of HIV-infected people have shown clearly that HIV is not spread through casual contact such as the sharing of food utensils"
      Now, don't you feel like a total fucking idiot? You should.

      Also, the Jews were called a menace by people like you, diseased or not. Being smarter causes that response.

      So you're claiming that Jews are smarter -- sort of some kind of 'master race.' Interesting.

    3. Re:Nazi Homophobe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prove AIDS cannot be spread that way. No evidence does not cut it. Sorry. Here, go to teh Castro in San Francisco and get a bunch of herpes sore mouths of AIDS faggots to spit on your food while you eat it while you have a cut on your cheek from biting it. Lets see if you dont get AIDS, if you wont do that then you agree, AIDS is spread by fluids, and you are an AIDS spreader.

      As a group, Jews educate themselves. We know how uneducated or partially educated people like yourself try to kill us. We are not a master race simply because we as a group try and educate ourselves. We are killed most often by partials such as yourself.

    4. Re:Nazi Homophobe. by fmaxwell · · Score: 1

      Prove AIDS cannot be spread that way.

      Prove a negative? Prove that colon cancer can't be spread that way. Prove that sickle cell anemia can't be spread that way. Prove that diabetes can't be spread that way. Prove that Parkinson's can't be spread that way. You can't prove a negative and you can't lock up every person in the world who gets a disease.

      As a group, Jews educate themselves.

      You are proof-positive that not all Jews educate themselves. Your bigoted ignorance about HIV/AIDS, and other subjects, is proof of that -- as is your (at best) semi-literate writing.

      We are killed most often by partials such as yourself.

      I am your intellectual superior in every sense of the word. I am more intelligent than you are. I am more educated than you are. I am more logical than you are. That has been shown over and over.

      And I am more honest than you are.

    5. Re:Nazi Homophobe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AIDS can and has spread from one person to another via ALL body fluids including tears.

      A smart Jew knows how to stay alive. We have been killed by people like you in the past, now we watch our backs, since people like you like to stab in the back.

      You are a liar. You are a failure in business. You are a whiner and a malcontent. You would assume you are intelligent based on slashdot - this more than anything proves how bad you really are. I have controlled you since you walked in here. And I laugh as I got paid to harass you sitting on the computer unemployed.

      I laugh at you, pitiful "engineer" You lie, you never got an engineering degree. You call yourself something you are not and never will be.

      Chief propagandist should be your title.

    6. Re:Nazi Homophobe. by fmaxwell · · Score: 1

      AIDS can and has spread from one person to another via ALL body fluids including tears.

      The NIH and CDC disagree with you.

      And I laugh as I got paid to harass you sitting on the computer unemployed.

      Better luck next time, Johnny. I'm employed as I do this but I'm not so stupid as to use my employer's equipment and network to post messages. That's something that Apple's lawyers and/or HR people will explain to you in the near future (if they have not already). In fact, I'll probably get paid a whole lot more for your postings than you got paid to make them.

      I laugh at you, pitiful "engineer" You lie, you never got an engineering degree. You call yourself something you are not and never will be.

      So, is Steve Wozniak not an engineer either? You had to get a degree because you were not smart enough to write software without someone holding your hand and teaching you how. Like the guy who started your company, I had brains and talent, so I was hired away from college by a firm making Near Infrared Spectrophotometers.

    7. Re:Nazi Homophobe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have AIDS, and you probably gave it to the guy who has to help you log into your computer every morning because you are too dumb to figure it out.

      And about Wozniak, unlike you, he didnt fail in business. Proof is in the pudding, mister failure at business.

      I know I got paid a heck of a lot more than you to write this because you are a class warfare shill.