For all intents and purposes Norman does not exist as a city past E 24th or past W 48th which is exactly 8 miles. Main street itself is only about 6 miles long. Also.. for all intents and purposes Norman does not exist south of Imhoff road, or north past Rock Creek Road.. Which is 4 miles. Keep in mind the city is kind of on a slant going from northwest to southeast... The city is growing fast tho, it used to not exist north of Robinson.
Just because other areas are labled as a city doesn't mean a lot if no one actually lives out there. Oklahoma City is the second largest city land wise in the nation if you look at that type of figure. (If you actually look at the populated areas of Oklahoma City, it isn't very big).
I never said it was crowded. I just used to deliver flowers for a flower shop in Norman when I was 17, "The Norman Floral and Gift Gallery" across the street from Norman High.
The city planners who worked on Norman are total morans. It is insane to try and make deliveries through the city. Seriously, we had to turn down deliveries any time there was a game day. Even on a normal day, it takes HOURS to make a few deliviers mixed in that 8x4 mile city. Most streets are 25mph, traffic lights are placed every 20 feet down lindsey, pedestrian traffic gets in the way (especially down by OU).
My argument is simple, even tho Norman is small, hardly populated, and not well known. It really feels like you are in a big crowded city due to the lack of planning.
It took me just as long to travel to my girlfriends house that was 3 miles away from my work in Norman.. as it currently takes me to travel the 10 miles to work I drive in Oklahoma City, no highway just city streets.
Ohh, and don't call people names when you are logged in as an AC.:)
He is right, Norman Oklahoma is just like a big city. It is 4 miles across, yet takes a half hour to drive across thanks to dumbasses and the lovely 25 mph "main" street.:)
It is FASTER to drive around norman via highway 9 then to actually try and cross it east/west.
Haha, I so know what you are talking about. Most of my friends, family, and ex-girlfriends have all escaped to Texas!
The few of us left here in Oklahoma, we refer to ourselves as "refuges", are too lazy to get off our asses and actually move to a state where we can get paid well.
But! the advantage is, I don't really have to work hard and get a ton of free time. Plus, my true love besides computers is cars (hence my nick of TurboRoot). In Oklahoma, we have no vehicle inspections anymore. That means you can take all that emission crap off your car (all the polution blows northwest and ends up in Denver) and you can't get in trouble. The only restriction is that your car isn't too loud. Other then that, modify your vehicle at will.
Of course, don't forget the joke "Why is Oklahoma so windy? Because Kansas blows and Texas sucks."
The cost of living here is SUPER low.. plus.. you can hire VBscript monkies to work on ASP sites for $8/hour.
In Oklahoma, you put an add in the paper, and you will have billions of applications and you can pick who ever is willing to take the least amount of pay.
That is why companies like AOL like to put call centers in Oklahoma cause they can pay a whole $9/hour and people shit themselves about how much money it is.:)
Unfortuantly, actually SELLING a product in Oklahoma is kind of bleak.. but if your product is nation wide.. then this is the place.
I found the great troll investigation to be intresting.. because lets face it.. it WAS.
Since then I lost the ability to moderate or meta moderate. So did about 600 other people who also moderated that post as intresting.
Like hell I want to pay money to a site that doesn't give me the right to determine what i find intresting or not.
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This really isn't a huge possibility. This exploit has to happen on a real php page. If you have mod_php installed but no php scripts then you can't be exploited by this bug.
Also, mod_php isn't installed on millions of peoples computers who have no idea what a web server is like IIS was.
The closest to code red this could do, is pull out all domains, and check for index.php in the root directory. Or maybe it could attempt to index a domain and try to find an index.php...
But as I said.. unless there is a.php page on you server, you can't be exploited with this current exploit.
Simple, a lot of platforms use lightweight userland threads that all reside within one process. When you sleep the process, all the threads will sleep.
Now, those thread libraries are suppost to relink the sleep calls to a thread safe way to accomplish the same thing.. but not all of them do.
Linux never had this problem, because of the _clone system call, which makes threads to be seperate processes that share memory. That isn't necessary a bad thing, but it makes developing threaded applications on Linux a bad idea because non thread safe code will work better on linux than other places.
Defiently. Sharing threads allows you to also share resources.. like.. database connections cached content.. etc all in memory.
Things like this is why servers like aolserver and basically any J2EE(especially Resin) server stomps Apache in the ground as far as dynamic pages are concerned.
The main benefit of Apache in the first place is the stability benefited from the fork() nature of it.
Apache 2.0 brings some nice and intresting new features that only a multithreaded server can bring, but these are all features already available in tons of other web servers..
Unfortuantly, the programmers working on Apache 2.0 don't know how to write thread safe code. Don't believe me? Go get the source yourself, cuddle up to a posix threading book and pull out a 100% correct threading library. (Like the FreeBSD one.):)
Example... DONT USE SLEEP(3) in a multithreaded application!.. but whatever:)
What I am basically saying is.. I would't get apache 2.0 for production _yet_. Someday Apache 2.0 will be the model for how a stable multithreaded multi-protocol server can be written.
By the way, I normally don't take time out to actually post. But since my moderation and meta moderation privs were removed since i moderated a post I found intresting.. to be intresting. (The great slashdot troll investigation). About 500 people lost their moderation ability at that time. What a nice brave new world.
The advance is. I can now say what I truely feel and not care about karma.. because this place is a joke.:)
I tried that first actually, but I found it too hard to "fiddle" with it once it was all compacted into the box. My second design i decide to just tiewrap it to _something_, and there was my desk. It works great because I can read down and swap out any piece of the hardware at will.
Coincidently that has made the uptime for that server to be very good.
So why don't you use Java based groupware/spreadsheets?
.NET is Wrong and "Bad". Mono is akin to having classes to teach women methods to feel less pain when they get beat by their husbands, ignoring the fact that getting beat is a bad thing.
By supporting Mono you are giving in to M$ and really just spreading their reign. Because face it, Mono will only succeed if m$ allows it.
Any professional would have wiped the hard drive. An easier solution would be along the lines of what they do with dogs. It would't be hard to make a tracker device/PCI graphics card that looked pretty mundane.
>NET is a significantly more "productive" language than Java as it is based on a much higher level of abstraction. You can concentrate on immediately doing things your application (Web, Client, etc.) is supposed to DO than the plumbing to get to that stage
>But I do have a background in Java, having programmed in it for the past 4 years
So umm.. you programmed in Java for 4 years and never used an application server to do the "plumbing" for you?
This is the common FUD spread by Microsoft regarding the Java standard, but you forgot one important thing... the truth.
The truth is.. Sun can't protect an open standard. If Java was a totally open standard then Microsoft could "embrace and extend" Java into the ground and destroy it. Sun isn't stupid.
The truth is, Sun makes every step possible to keep Java as standard as possible and documents it VERY VERY VERY well. Go to http://java.sun.com/docs/books and see for yourself. Scroll down, look at the bottom. THAT is the standard.
Sun also goes to great pains to receive feedback from the community and industry. In fact a lot of the EJB and J2EE standards were dictated by application server companies.
Once again, this is nothing new. Together Control Center is the best IDE/UML Modeling tool in existance, and it is not designed around any specific language. It will work with Java just as well as C# or C++ or whatever. And unlike Eclipse, Together Control Center is the best IDE written in existence and does a lot of useful tasks. Check it out at http://www.togethersoft.com
Ohh yeah, and for the linux nazis who never wanna pay for stuff, this program with all the bells and whistles cost around $7000 US.:)
But I must say, we are in a new world, the technologies available to us programmers are very powerful and robust, it is not coincidence the best IDEs written these days are written in Java.
(TCC, IDEA, Eclipse, NetBeans, etc)
HDTV is not worth it if you plan to just watch cable. I have a Sony i1080 57", and I did not buy it to watch cable..
Now, when I pop in a DVD using the component out cables, the quality is awesome!:) It is DEFINETLY worth it for DVDs and games.
Just plan to have a lot of equipment with component out, you can even buy component out adaptors for the PS/2. And despite what the techies say, it does help in reality.:)
Been playing a lot of Final Fantasy X on this screen, and it is badass:)
Actually it is, all of us who really wanted a Playstation already had one or got one last christmas.
Everyone who wanted a gamecube or an xbox can get one this christmas, (you can get them if you look). I wanted a PS2 and could not get one last christmas, tho I got one shortly after.
The fact that the PS2 is outselling the rest of the market when it is not being purchased by die hard gamers and Sony fans is amazing.
Well, the Java language is a very STRONG typed language and abstract. In situations it causes code to be a little more ugly.. in other situations it causes code to be very clean. Either way, it does not matter. Java is just a platform, you don't have to use the Java language(JL) on a Java Virtual Machine(JVM).
There are Scheme and Python compilers out there that make JVM bytecode. It is possible to make a C++ compiler to output JVM bytecode. The JVM is just a virtual computer so to speak and it reads Class files:)
Sun has done a good job of protecting the integrity of Java, and even sued M$ and won!
As far as JVMs go. IBM made a wicked fast one that in a lot of situations it ran Java code faster than MSVC could run C++ code. And JVMs will just get faster as time goes on.
In fact, some day JVMs will be faster than assembly. And yes that is possible:P How exactly is a trade secret of my company, and if we ever finish this damn thing might make us some money.
But imagine this.. lets say you are runnig notepad, than you load up calculator.. imagine if your opearting system could find the simularities between the two programs and only load the differences betweenc calculator and notepad.
It would take more CPU cycles to run each program, but both programs would stay in CPU cache longer and actually run faster in a multitasking environment.
Don't forget that JVMs can optimize for the specific processor they are running on.:) Optimizing for a Cyrix 686 is different than optimizing for a Pentium 4.
But once again, i'll reiterate. If you write a program on the Java platform today, it will get faster through time, and work on any new opearting system. It is smarter to try to convince companies to write in Java than it is to try to reverse engineer undocumented buggy APIs made by a company called Microsoft.
Umm.. what rock have you been living under? One of the major advantages of Java/Swing is the ability to switch your look and feel out...
A java app can be morphed to have a windows look and feel, a motif look and feel, etc, hell you can make your own look and feel.
Your window manager someday will be integrated into your JVM and will pass its look and feel off to all the Java/Swing applications you use.
If you don't believe me, go download the JDK yourself at java.sun.com, try some of the stuff in the demos directory:)
These things are not compleatly integrated yet, but they will be, these technologies are pretty new. The truth is, if you write a program in Java today, it will continue to improve even if you don't touch the code.
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What is the property tax on that 3000 square foot new house that cost $150k?
Blah blah blah, ok... "VBScript monkies working on ASP sites."
What from that statement says that ASP only supports VBScript?
The truth is, VBScript monkies are the least expensive people you can purchase, err hire to work on ASP sites.
At least we don't have morons who can't read.
For all intents and purposes Norman does not exist as a city past E 24th or past W 48th which is exactly 8 miles. Main street itself is only about 6 miles long. Also.. for all intents and purposes Norman does not exist south of Imhoff road, or north past Rock Creek Road.. Which is 4 miles. Keep in mind the city is kind of on a slant going from northwest to southeast... The city is growing fast tho, it used to not exist north of Robinson.
:)
Just because other areas are labled as a city doesn't mean a lot if no one actually lives out there. Oklahoma City is the second largest city land wise in the nation if you look at that type of figure. (If you actually look at the populated areas of Oklahoma City, it isn't very big).
I never said it was crowded. I just used to deliver flowers for a flower shop in Norman when I was 17, "The Norman Floral and Gift Gallery" across the street from Norman High.
The city planners who worked on Norman are total morans. It is insane to try and make deliveries through the city. Seriously, we had to turn down deliveries any time there was a game day. Even on a normal day, it takes HOURS to make a few deliviers mixed in that 8x4 mile city. Most streets are 25mph, traffic lights are placed every 20 feet down lindsey, pedestrian traffic gets in the way (especially down by OU).
My argument is simple, even tho Norman is small, hardly populated, and not well known. It really feels like you are in a big crowded city due to the lack of planning.
It took me just as long to travel to my girlfriends house that was 3 miles away from my work in Norman.. as it currently takes me to travel the 10 miles to work I drive in Oklahoma City, no highway just city streets.
Ohh, and don't call people names when you are logged in as an AC.
He is right, Norman Oklahoma is just like a big city. It is 4 miles across, yet takes a half hour to drive across thanks to dumbasses and the lovely 25 mph "main" street. :)
It is FASTER to drive around norman via highway 9 then to actually try and cross it east/west.
Haha, I so know what you are talking about. Most of my friends, family, and ex-girlfriends have all escaped to Texas!
The few of us left here in Oklahoma, we refer to ourselves as "refuges", are too lazy to get off our asses and actually move to a state where we can get paid well.
But! the advantage is, I don't really have to work hard and get a ton of free time. Plus, my true love besides computers is cars (hence my nick of TurboRoot). In Oklahoma, we have no vehicle inspections anymore. That means you can take all that emission crap off your car (all the polution blows northwest and ends up in Denver) and you can't get in trouble. The only restriction is that your car isn't too loud. Other then that, modify your vehicle at will.
Of course, don't forget the joke "Why is Oklahoma so windy? Because Kansas blows and Texas sucks."
The cost of living here is SUPER low.. plus.. you can hire VBscript monkies to work on ASP sites for $8/hour.
:)
In Oklahoma, you put an add in the paper, and you will have billions of applications and you can pick who ever is willing to take the least amount of pay.
That is why companies like AOL like to put call centers in Oklahoma cause they can pay a whole $9/hour and people shit themselves about how much money it is.
Unfortuantly, actually SELLING a product in Oklahoma is kind of bleak.. but if your product is nation wide.. then this is the place.
I found the great troll investigation to be intresting.. because lets face it.. it WAS.
Since then I lost the ability to moderate or meta moderate. So did about 600 other people who also moderated that post as intresting.
Like hell I want to pay money to a site that doesn't give me the right to determine what i find intresting or not.
This really isn't a huge possibility. This exploit has to happen on a real php page. If you have mod_php installed but no php scripts then you can't be exploited by this bug.
.php page on you server, you can't be exploited with this current exploit.
Also, mod_php isn't installed on millions of peoples computers who have no idea what a web server is like IIS was.
The closest to code red this could do, is pull out all domains, and check for index.php in the root directory. Or maybe it could attempt to index a domain and try to find an index.php...
But as I said.. unless there is a
Umm, how did the parent of this post get modded as a troll 3 times?
Simple, a lot of platforms use lightweight userland threads that all reside within one process. When you sleep the process, all the threads will sleep.
Now, those thread libraries are suppost to relink the sleep calls to a thread safe way to accomplish the same thing.. but not all of them do.
Linux never had this problem, because of the _clone system call, which makes threads to be seperate processes that share memory. That isn't necessary a bad thing, but it makes developing threaded applications on Linux a bad idea because non thread safe code will work better on linux than other places.
Defiently. Sharing threads allows you to also share resources.. like.. database connections
cached content.. etc all in memory.
Things like this is why servers like aolserver and basically any J2EE(especially Resin) server stomps Apache in the ground as far as dynamic pages are concerned.
The main benefit of Apache in the first place is the stability benefited from the fork() nature of it.
:)
:)
:)
Apache 2.0 brings some nice and intresting new features that only a multithreaded server can bring, but these are all features already available in tons of other web servers..
Unfortuantly, the programmers working on Apache 2.0 don't know how to write thread safe code. Don't believe me? Go get the source yourself, cuddle up to a posix threading book and pull out a 100% correct threading library. (Like the FreeBSD one.)
Example... DONT USE SLEEP(3) in a multithreaded application!.. but whatever
What I am basically saying is.. I would't get apache 2.0 for production _yet_. Someday Apache 2.0 will be the model for how a stable multithreaded multi-protocol server can be written.
By the way, I normally don't take time out to actually post. But since my moderation and meta moderation privs were removed since i moderated a post I found intresting.. to be intresting. (The great slashdot troll investigation). About 500 people lost their moderation ability at that time. What a nice brave new world.
The advance is. I can now say what I truely feel and not care about karma.. because this place is a joke.
That is why it is mounted _sideways_! So that the dust will fall and land on the platform below, and not on the CPU.
:)
I tried that first actually, but I found it too hard to "fiddle" with it once it was all compacted into the box. My second design i decide to just tiewrap it to _something_, and there was my desk. It works great because I can read down and swap out any piece of the hardware at will.
Coincidently that has made the uptime for that server to be very good.
They ripped off my computer!
My computer has been my computer for the last 2 years. It is a pentium 233MMX with 64 megs of ram and 2 hard drives. It has a DSL "bridge" above it.
It was built into my desk and has survived 2 moves and lasted a long time.
So why don't you use Java based groupware/spreadsheets?
.NET is Wrong and "Bad". Mono is akin to having classes to teach women methods to feel less pain when they get beat by their husbands, ignoring the fact that getting beat is a bad thing.
By supporting Mono you are giving in to M$ and really just spreading their reign. Because face it, Mono will only succeed if m$ allows it.
Any professional would have wiped the hard drive. An easier solution would be along the lines of what they do with dogs. It would't be hard to make a tracker device/PCI graphics card that looked pretty mundane.
Alanis Morisette is a moron.
The only irony is that she wrote an entire song abuot irony, and the only ironic thing is that there is no irony in the entire song.
>NET is a significantly more "productive" language than Java as it is based on a much higher level of abstraction. You can concentrate on immediately doing things your application (Web, Client, etc.) is supposed to DO than the plumbing to get to that stage
>But I do have a background in Java, having programmed in it for the past 4 years
So umm.. you programmed in Java for 4 years and never used an application server to do the "plumbing" for you?
This is the common FUD spread by Microsoft regarding the Java standard, but you forgot one important thing... the truth.
The truth is.. Sun can't protect an open standard. If Java was a totally open standard then Microsoft could "embrace and extend" Java into the ground and destroy it. Sun isn't stupid.
The truth is, Sun makes every step possible to keep Java as standard as possible and documents it VERY VERY VERY well. Go to http://java.sun.com/docs/books and see for yourself. Scroll down, look at the bottom. THAT is the standard.
Sun also goes to great pains to receive feedback from the community and industry. In fact a lot of the EJB and J2EE standards were dictated by application server companies.
Once again, this is nothing new. Together Control Center is the best IDE/UML Modeling tool in existance, and it is not designed around any specific language. It will work with Java just as well as C# or C++ or whatever. And unlike Eclipse, Together Control Center is the best IDE written in existence and does a lot of useful tasks. Check it out at http://www.togethersoft.com
:)
Ohh yeah, and for the linux nazis who never wanna pay for stuff, this program with all the bells and whistles cost around $7000 US.
But I must say, we are in a new world, the technologies available to us programmers are very powerful and robust, it is not coincidence the best IDEs written these days are written in Java.
(TCC, IDEA, Eclipse, NetBeans, etc)
HDTV is not worth it if you plan to just watch cable. I have a Sony i1080 57", and I did not buy it to watch cable..
:) It is DEFINETLY worth it for DVDs and games.
:)
:)
Now, when I pop in a DVD using the component out cables, the quality is awesome!
Just plan to have a lot of equipment with component out, you can even buy component out adaptors for the PS/2. And despite what the techies say, it does help in reality.
Been playing a lot of Final Fantasy X on this screen, and it is badass
Actually it is, all of us who really wanted a Playstation already had one or got one last christmas.
Everyone who wanted a gamecube or an xbox can get one this christmas, (you can get them if you look). I wanted a PS2 and could not get one last christmas, tho I got one shortly after.
The fact that the PS2 is outselling the rest of the market when it is not being purchased by die hard gamers and Sony fans is amazing.
Well, the Java language is a very STRONG typed language and abstract. In situations it causes code to be a little more ugly.. in other situations it causes code to be very clean. Either way, it does not matter. Java is just a platform, you don't have to use the Java language(JL) on a Java Virtual Machine(JVM).
:)
:P How exactly is a trade secret of my company, and if we ever finish this damn thing might make us some money.
:) Optimizing for a Cyrix 686 is different than optimizing for a Pentium 4.
There are Scheme and Python compilers out there that make JVM bytecode. It is possible to make a C++ compiler to output JVM bytecode. The JVM is just a virtual computer so to speak and it reads Class files
Sun has done a good job of protecting the integrity of Java, and even sued M$ and won!
As far as JVMs go. IBM made a wicked fast one that in a lot of situations it ran Java code faster than MSVC could run C++ code. And JVMs will just get faster as time goes on.
In fact, some day JVMs will be faster than assembly. And yes that is possible
But imagine this.. lets say you are runnig notepad, than you load up calculator.. imagine if your opearting system could find the simularities between the two programs and only load the differences betweenc calculator and notepad.
It would take more CPU cycles to run each program, but both programs would stay in CPU cache longer and actually run faster in a multitasking environment.
Don't forget that JVMs can optimize for the specific processor they are running on.
But once again, i'll reiterate. If you write a program on the Java platform today, it will get faster through time, and work on any new opearting system. It is smarter to try to convince companies to write in Java than it is to try to reverse engineer undocumented buggy APIs made by a company called Microsoft.
Umm.. what rock have you been living under? One of the major advantages of Java/Swing is the ability to switch your look and feel out...
:)
A java app can be morphed to have a windows look and feel, a motif look and feel, etc, hell you can make your own look and feel.
Your window manager someday will be integrated into your JVM and will pass its look and feel off to all the Java/Swing applications you use.
If you don't believe me, go download the JDK yourself at java.sun.com, try some of the stuff in the demos directory
These things are not compleatly integrated yet, but they will be, these technologies are pretty new. The truth is, if you write a program in Java today, it will continue to improve even if you don't touch the code.