The purpose of this experiment is explained much better in this Space.com article
"The distance by itself isn't very interesting," Murphy said in a telephone interview.
Murphy's real motivation is to test Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, which is based on an assumption that gravity affects a feather and a bowling ball in the same manner.
"This probes at the fundamental characteristics of gravity, which is the most important force in our daily lives," Murphy said.
Murphy's Special Law of Relativistic Gravity: Anything that can go wrong with gravity, will go wrong with gravity, and it will happen relative to me.
I guess Murphy's first Law wasn't enough. Now they need a special case for if the moon falls on you.
"...infringe any intellectual property or other rights of these parties, violate any state, federal or international law..."
So we can't infringe their rights, but they can take away free speech from us. This certainly is the Land of Opportunity, where anyone can screw anyone. Just don't talk about it afterwards. At least, if Bill decides to drop Expedia or any of the others, he can't bitch about them on a web site using FrontPage. Of course, Bill ain't stupid. He's probably using Linux.
They didn't just do it first... they have done it the longest. The Russians are better than EVERYONE ELSE at long duration space flight, and not because they did it first. Their technology may be antiquated, but their experience with that aspect of space exploration dwarfs every other country that has undertaken the endeavor.
As an example, Mir may have been a junk heap, but the damned thing lasted 15 years. That's 10 years longer than its design specifications. We couldn't even make any of our Skylabs last their full stated duration. Also, the Russians hold every record for long duration space exposure... EVERY ONE OF THEM!
Ok; I've read all the replies rated 3 and higher and they are almost dead on right about attitude. I'll tell you a little story...
I have a "friend" that I've known about 1.5 years now. I wanted to kiss here from day 1, but I was "the nice guy". Not because I was playing the part, but because that is (was) who I am. Of course, this never works. In fact, she once told me "It's too bad I don't like you." This meant that we got along GREAT as friends, but she had no physical attraction to me.
Fast forward... she's been out of town for about 3 months. I'm finally resolved to "we're just friends." (This happened last week) We get together for coffee and conversation. My attitude was completely different now. I was much more my sarcastic self and didn't take any crap when she would fire scathing jokes at me. (We always had a playful banter like that.) I was much more natural because I wasn't treating her like a princess that I wanted to court. I wasn't playing the nice guy. I wasn't being a jerk either, I was just being the me that I am when I'm not trying to bed the woman sitting across the table from me. We were just hanging out.
Out of nowhere, she look's at me and says "You know, right now I really wondering how you kiss." I started laughing because it was the funniest thing I had ever heard. HOWEVER, it turns out that SHE WAS SERIOUS! So we did.
The moral is: it's all in the attitude. As soon as I stopped pursuing her as "the nice guy", she became curious. If you're a "nice guy", women will either be your friend (only) or run away out of fear and distrust.
You may do with this info as you see fit. I just thought I'd throw in my $0.02.
CIS Guy in a CS Job! Lemme tell ya bout it...
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Technically speaking, this means that my training prepared me for almost nothing that I read on/. I recently graduated with a BS in CIS. I should have done CS, but I didn't know the real difference... until it was too late. *To code or not to code* is NOT the question! You're going to write code for a while either way. The question is: What type of coding do you want to do: applications programming or systems programming?
CIS = Applications Programming = How to create applicatons like MS Word and Excel
CS = Systems Programming = How to create operating systems like MS Windows and Linux
Another key difference is that CIS is geared toward information management and CS is, well, computer science, thus all the math. When I was in classes, we never discussed stacks, queues, data structures, Perl, TCL/TK, algorithm design, performance measurement, IP streams, etc. (multi-threading wasn't even mentioned). I did learn how to design, configure and manage a network (Windows based), a database (Windows based), a website; you get the idea (I hope).
So, I'm out now and I got a good job with a communications company as a programmer. I got a dual-boot NT/Linux machine and spend most of my time in NT... because I had very little exposure to UNIX. I am programming interactive television applications and find myself asking stupid questions like: what's non-resident? What's spooling? What do you mean by p-frames? Where can I find info on MPEG transport streams? What are MPEG transport streams anyway? Of course, I spend a lot of time reading these things over, repeatedly, because I never got the basics of computer science and systems programming. I got the syntax of certain programming languages, but not the fundamental theory of computer programming. Yes, this job pays the same for CIS and CS; but I'm doing a lot more work than a CS major would because I was trained to do CIS.
You need to decide what type of work that you want to do. You also need to decide where you want to go with it in the future. Do you want to get an MBA and become a manager? (CIS) Or, do you want to create flight control and AI systems for NASA? (CS) If you can, audit a class in each program and see what the difference is in both what gets taught and how it gets taught. Talk with an advisor; talk with upper-level people from the two programs. Then you will know what you're getting into.
I think they have done a really good job with this version of the screenplay. I especially like the fact that they are telling more of the story than in the original film. The plot flows better, and the scenes don't seem so disconnected from one another as they did in the original.
I agree about Paul; he seemed a little too impetuous. However, William Hurt made a great Duke! I haven't decided about the Barron yet.
I have to buy a new VCR every 2 years. Pioneer 6 has been continuously functioning for 35 years now. Of course, my VCR only cost $100; I'm sure Pioneer 6 probably cost around $100,000,000.99. I guess you do pay for quality.
Of course, Mir has outlasted my last 3 VCR's, my car, my education, and a few other things!
Congradulations dieman!!! Your post has now become the technical bulk of another DAISY/Crusoe article from ZDNet.
Appearantly, no one at IBM or Transmeta would call ZDNet back, so the writers came to/. I commend them for knowing where to get quality information; but, considering that they quoted dieman word-for-word, I wonder if they even read the white paper themselves. I'm betting that they couldn't understand it and decided that obviously dieman could - just look at all those big words - so he seemed like a good source. I haven't gotten around to reading the white papre yet myself, so I hope you got all of it right dieman.
One other thing, the ZDNet article mentioned something about Crusoe doing parallel processing, and I believe they mean internally, not just multiple processors on a board. I haven't seen anything anywhere indicating Crusoe or DAISY is capable of true parallel processing. Has anyone seen anything about this, or are the ZDNet writes drinking their glow-stick juice again?
Re:It won't happen before 2010, but . . .
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First of all, most of the fuel is used fighting gravity, not air resistance. Second, though you would initially have to lift fuel to orbit, once mining began on the moon and asteroids, the fuel could be produced from there rather than lifting it to orbit.
One other thing to consider is the development of alternative fuel sources and propulsion methods that are not chemical based, such as nuclear fusion.
NASA is already working on cheaper systems to get to LEO, but has anyone considered a catapult system similar to launching Naval aircraft from a carrier? Perhaps using an electromagnetic rail system for initial acceleration before engine firing?
Once you have a LEO and Geosync platform system, they could provide the launch/service facilities for further development. This would include permanent stations at the L4 and L5 LaGrange points as well as a permanent moon base. So where does the O2 come from for all the people to breathe? Mine it from the regolith on the moon. There is also a good chance that there is frozen water ice on the moon. That would be a nice resource for Off-Earth operations.
Since L4 and L5 are gravitationally stable points in the Earth/Moon system. those stations could provide several things: 1) launch/service facilities for missions to Mars, the asteroids and outer planets; 2) facilities for processing the materials mined from the asteroids; 3) scientific laboratories for experiements that cannot or should not be performed on Earth.
As to the benefits of mining and other manufacturing productions moving Off-Earth, consider the environmental impact. Let's stop strip mining and polluting the Earth and move these things (which are still necessary to human society and willl be for a while) to areas where there is no ecological system to disrupt or destroy, such as the moon and the asteroids. Not to mention the benefits of better refining derived from outside the gravity well: better optics, stronger alloys, purer forms of crystal. And for all those worried about various biological/medical/genetic research that runs amok and creates monsters and giant, man-eating cockroaches and such, let's completely isolate the research to a lab in space where the chances of contaminating the environment on Earth are virtually non-existent.
I know that we now have the ISS up there, but it's a poor excuse for a space station from a species that sent humans to the moon . . . 40 YEARS AGO!!! What the hell have we done lately except putter around in LEO? Let's get out there and DO something for a change!
The only thing that will unite humanity is a threat from outer space - Albert Einstein. - What was he not saying?
It won't happen before 2010, but . . .
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First thing's first, we need a cheap launch system to get the initial materials up to orbit. A space elevator won't do it, though. That's far beyond our tech capabilities for a while yet. We should begin with a series of orbital platforms: a few in LEO - Low Earth Orbit - and a few in geosynchronous orbit. then, establish an orbital ferry system between them. This would provide a cheaper way to transfer materials and people outside the gravity well.
I hear about run-off elections all the time for state and local elections - even for the US Congress. Is there any precedent for a presidential run-off?
If no, could that be done in this case with it being so close?
If yes, why isn't that option being discussed?
Regardless of precedent, would/could a run-off take place only in Florida? Or, would there have to be a run-off nationwide?
You can order StarBand from The DISH Network (the satellite TV people) and you don't have to buy any PC - especially not a Compaq - just the dish and the service. For those that have DISH Network already, or want to get it anyway, they have/are/will be releasing a combination dish (two-way internet and satellite TV all in one). The system still only runs on Windows, and while there are plans to port it to Mac, there are no plans for Linux.
Great! Now M$ will get a new monopoly and we'll all have to get a subsciption to WinHuman 2.0
Needing to crash for a while takes on a whole new meaning.
The purpose of this experiment is explained much better in this Space.com article
Murphy's Special Law of Relativistic Gravity: Anything that can go wrong with gravity, will go wrong with gravity, and it will happen relative to me.
I guess Murphy's first Law wasn't enough. Now they need a special case for if the moon falls on you.
"...infringe any intellectual property or other rights of these parties, violate any state, federal or international law..."
So we can't infringe their rights, but they can take away free speech from us. This certainly is the Land of Opportunity, where anyone can screw anyone. Just don't talk about it afterwards. At least, if Bill decides to drop Expedia or any of the others, he can't bitch about them on a web site using FrontPage. Of course, Bill ain't stupid. He's probably using Linux.
They didn't just do it first... they have done it the longest. The Russians are better than EVERYONE ELSE at long duration space flight, and not because they did it first. Their technology may be antiquated, but their experience with that aspect of space exploration dwarfs every other country that has undertaken the endeavor.
As an example, Mir may have been a junk heap, but the damned thing lasted 15 years. That's 10 years longer than its design specifications. We couldn't even make any of our Skylabs last their full stated duration. Also, the Russians hold every record for long duration space exposure... EVERY ONE OF THEM!
Think before you open you anus to speak.
How do I set a laser printer for stun?
I have a "friend" that I've known about 1.5 years now. I wanted to kiss here from day 1, but I was "the nice guy". Not because I was playing the part, but because that is (was) who I am. Of course, this never works. In fact, she once told me "It's too bad I don't like you." This meant that we got along GREAT as friends, but she had no physical attraction to me.
Fast forward... she's been out of town for about 3 months. I'm finally resolved to "we're just friends." (This happened last week) We get together for coffee and conversation. My attitude was completely different now. I was much more my sarcastic self and didn't take any crap when she would fire scathing jokes at me. (We always had a playful banter like that.) I was much more natural because I wasn't treating her like a princess that I wanted to court. I wasn't playing the nice guy. I wasn't being a jerk either, I was just being the me that I am when I'm not trying to bed the woman sitting across the table from me. We were just hanging out.
Out of nowhere, she look's at me and says "You know, right now I really wondering how you kiss." I started laughing because it was the funniest thing I had ever heard. HOWEVER, it turns out that SHE WAS SERIOUS! So we did.
The moral is: it's all in the attitude. As soon as I stopped pursuing her as "the nice guy", she became curious. If you're a "nice guy", women will either be your friend (only) or run away out of fear and distrust.
You may do with this info as you see fit. I just thought I'd throw in my $0.02.
Technically speaking, this means that my training prepared me for almost nothing that I read on /. I recently graduated with a BS in CIS. I should have done CS, but I didn't know the real difference... until it was too late. *To code or not to code* is NOT the question! You're going to write code for a while either way. The question is: What type of coding do you want to do: applications programming or systems programming?
CIS = Applications Programming = How to create applicatons like MS Word and Excel
CS = Systems Programming = How to create operating systems like MS Windows and Linux
Another key difference is that CIS is geared toward information management and CS is, well, computer science, thus all the math. When I was in classes, we never discussed stacks, queues, data structures, Perl, TCL/TK, algorithm design, performance measurement, IP streams, etc. (multi-threading wasn't even mentioned). I did learn how to design, configure and manage a network (Windows based), a database (Windows based), a website; you get the idea (I hope).
So, I'm out now and I got a good job with a communications company as a programmer. I got a dual-boot NT/Linux machine and spend most of my time in NT... because I had very little exposure to UNIX. I am programming interactive television applications and find myself asking stupid questions like: what's non-resident? What's spooling? What do you mean by p-frames? Where can I find info on MPEG transport streams? What are MPEG transport streams anyway? Of course, I spend a lot of time reading these things over, repeatedly, because I never got the basics of computer science and systems programming. I got the syntax of certain programming languages, but not the fundamental theory of computer programming. Yes, this job pays the same for CIS and CS; but I'm doing a lot more work than a CS major would because I was trained to do CIS.
You need to decide what type of work that you want to do. You also need to decide where you want to go with it in the future. Do you want to get an MBA and become a manager? (CIS) Or, do you want to create flight control and AI systems for NASA? (CS) If you can, audit a class in each program and see what the difference is in both what gets taught and how it gets taught. Talk with an advisor; talk with upper-level people from the two programs. Then you will know what you're getting into.
I think they have done a really good job with this version of the screenplay. I especially like the fact that they are telling more of the story than in the original film. The plot flows better, and the scenes don't seem so disconnected from one another as they did in the original.
I agree about Paul; he seemed a little too impetuous. However, William Hurt made a great Duke! I haven't decided about the Barron yet.
I have to buy a new VCR every 2 years. Pioneer 6 has been continuously functioning for 35 years now. Of course, my VCR only cost $100; I'm sure Pioneer 6 probably cost around $100,000,000.99. I guess you do pay for quality.
Of course, Mir has outlasted my last 3 VCR's, my car, my education, and a few other things!
Congradulations dieman!!! Your post has now become the technical bulk of another DAISY/Crusoe article from ZDNet.
/. I commend them for knowing where to get quality information; but, considering that they quoted dieman word-for-word, I wonder if they even read the white paper themselves. I'm betting that they couldn't understand it and decided that obviously dieman could - just look at all those big words - so he seemed like a good source. I haven't gotten around to reading the white papre yet myself, so I hope you got all of it right dieman.
Appearantly, no one at IBM or Transmeta would call ZDNet back, so the writers came to
One other thing, the ZDNet article mentioned something about Crusoe doing parallel processing, and I believe they mean internally, not just multiple processors on a board. I haven't seen anything anywhere indicating Crusoe or DAISY is capable of true parallel processing. Has anyone seen anything about this, or are the ZDNet writes drinking their glow-stick juice again?
First of all, most of the fuel is used fighting gravity, not air resistance. Second, though you would initially have to lift fuel to orbit, once mining began on the moon and asteroids, the fuel could be produced from there rather than lifting it to orbit. One other thing to consider is the development of alternative fuel sources and propulsion methods that are not chemical based, such as nuclear fusion.
I thought Al Gore invented the Internet. Somebody is lying! ;^)
If you can't say something nice . .
Once you have a LEO and Geosync platform system, they could provide the launch/service facilities for further development. This would include permanent stations at the L4 and L5 LaGrange points as well as a permanent moon base. So where does the O2 come from for all the people to breathe? Mine it from the regolith on the moon. There is also a good chance that there is frozen water ice on the moon. That would be a nice resource for Off-Earth operations.
Since L4 and L5 are gravitationally stable points in the Earth/Moon system. those stations could provide several things: 1) launch/service facilities for missions to Mars, the asteroids and outer planets; 2) facilities for processing the materials mined from the asteroids; 3) scientific laboratories for experiements that cannot or should not be performed on Earth.
As to the benefits of mining and other manufacturing productions moving Off-Earth, consider the environmental impact. Let's stop strip mining and polluting the Earth and move these things (which are still necessary to human society and willl be for a while) to areas where there is no ecological system to disrupt or destroy, such as the moon and the asteroids. Not to mention the benefits of better refining derived from outside the gravity well: better optics, stronger alloys, purer forms of crystal. And for all those worried about various biological/medical/genetic research that runs amok and creates monsters and giant, man-eating cockroaches and such, let's completely isolate the research to a lab in space where the chances of contaminating the environment on Earth are virtually non-existent.
I know that we now have the ISS up there, but it's a poor excuse for a space station from a species that sent humans to the moon . . . 40 YEARS AGO!!! What the hell have we done lately except putter around in LEO? Let's get out there and DO something for a change!
The only thing that will unite humanity is a threat from outer space - Albert Einstein.
- What was he not saying?
First thing's first, we need a cheap launch system to get the initial materials up to orbit. A space elevator won't do it, though. That's far beyond our tech capabilities for a while yet. We should begin with a series of orbital platforms: a few in LEO - Low Earth Orbit - and a few in geosynchronous orbit. then, establish an orbital ferry system between them. This would provide a cheaper way to transfer materials and people outside the gravity well.
As of 12:00 EST, Bush has the lead over Gore in Florida. However, different news websites are giving different totals.
If no, could that be done in this case with it being so close?
If yes, why isn't that option being discussed?
Regardless of precedent, would/could a run-off take place only in Florida? Or, would there have to be a run-off nationwide?
You can order StarBand from The DISH Network (the satellite TV people) and you don't have to buy any PC - especially not a Compaq - just the dish and the service. For those that have DISH Network already, or want to get it anyway, they have/are/will be releasing a combination dish (two-way internet and satellite TV all in one). The system still only runs on Windows, and while there are plans to port it to Mac, there are no plans for Linux.